I keep running into videos he made and gotta say he was one of the best out there had he not passed away he could easily have been the biggest Sim guy on UA-cam. RIP buddy.
r.i.p William Marsh 😥 I discovered this channel for his excellent review of this rig. Such a nice warm voice. Cannot believe he's gone. 💔 I hope you've finally found your peace.
Great review. I own this cockpit, and personally have a slight difference of opinion when it comes to ergonomics and comfort. Looking at the seat in pictures and even in person it does not look as comfortable as it actually is. However, IMO, it is one of the best things about this cockpit. I find it comfortable and very supportive. I am 5'11" and 180 lbs, and was able to find a perfect seating position for my liking. (BTW..only race in GT). The shifter mount was also perfect for me, but I can see with the lack of up and down that some may not get it exactly to their liking. I also have the pedals in lower GT position connected to the front plate, and find that when in that position they have more flex than what I would like. The thing about cockpits, is they always fit each person a little differently. I would like to add that I have contacted NLR about the flex in the pedal plate, and they are very responsive.
The F-GT does have keyboard mount posibilities, but you'll need to buy it extra its not included with the seat, but than again a lot of cockpits dont come with included keyboard trays/ mounts
@@faresjalil7493 thankyou, ive been using ig for about 3 months i think almost 4 and ive not have any problems although if you sit on it for too long maybe lets say 5-6 hours you’ll start feeling back pain but i still like it i shoulve bought the playseat instead cuz it was cheaper
@@a.c5253 I have one and I use it almost solely in Formula seating, I flipped the pedal plate to make my pedals hang as well with an anti-fatigue pad on the ground to add some cushion. Next I hung the shifter arm off the standing arms for the wheelbase to raise the height of my shifter and E-brake, allowing me to angle them both about 20 degrees towards me and making them very easy to reach without having to move my hand far from the wheel. Next I'm ordering a more comfortable chair and mounting it to the existing rails on the rig, I'm assuming I will have to drill some holes to make it work but I'm looking forward to the upgrade. I've only had mine for about 10 months and looking back i may have gone with something different, but the adjustability has allowed me to really customize how I have it built so I quite enjoy the overall purchase.
@@fredurdead The company named the product, and because Fanatec is not a dictionary word, they get the right to dictate the correct pronunciation so it's dumb to say the company is wrong.
Incredible review. Can one change the seat to something else? If so, it's an absolute no-brainer upgrade from my Playseat Evolution for xbox series x imo.
Got this rig and I can tell if you are above 6 ft 3 or above 200 lbs this is not your rig. The review is professional but this guy seems to a bit heavier than 200 lbs (true?) and shows that you are cramped into this rig. I am the "skinny" guy (5 ft 10 / 1.81cm 165 lbs / 75kg's - the perfect F1 racer :-) and this fits like a glove. Also tested the playseat Revolution and this like sitting high up compared to this F1 setting.
I'd prefer this easily over the GT Omega Art and Pro. I have not tested the Titan or Prime yet, but I'd assume that the Prime would be a bit more of a beefy cockpit.
@@Simracingpaddock Probably, yeah, since the Prime is an aluminum extrusion rig. However, for the price, it really doesn't get better than the F-GT, since it's a solid rig and you also get a functional seat. Also, you basically made me order the rig, thanks lol.
I got it, its not best and not worst. I hate the seat, and i dont find any issues with gearbox, and since you use thrustmaster u can mount it bit different so it wont be so close to wheel mount. I think it is possible now to find a better, more stiff, and more upgrade options for that price, but if u are willing to give up Formula position. As i said its fine, but i wouldnt buy it again if mine break.
it would seem that all next level seats are missing padding, i have the gt ultimate cockpit and the seat feels like im sitting on concrete, not great for the back thats for sure
In racing, you want to have as minimal a time on the brake as possible, so if you're not having to use the clutch while driving, Left Foot Braking is a technique that a lot of people should have down. Look up "Left Foot Braking" on UA-cam and you can find some cool videos talking about when to use it and when not to
I've owned this exact rig for two years and it hasn't really held up. The pedal deck is flimsy, the wheel deck is even flimsier with a lot of play, no matter how much I tighten it. The rod holding up the wheeldeck is kind of annoying because there's a literal rod sticking up between my legs, but it's bearable. Also, they handled the office chair compatibility horribly: the seat legs detach under use, which is super annoying, especially in the middle of an online race. However, for the price, it's a decent starter rig. Just don't expect it to hold up to something like a CSL elite.
In my opinion, the ones built out of Aluminum Extrusion (sometimes referred to as "80/20 Cockpits") tend to be the best quality. You can either go the DIY route, with a custom design (see The SimPit's video for an example), or buy a pre-designed setup from a company (Sim-Lab, JCL Sim Racing, 4Play Racing are some examples). They tend to be the sturdiest designs and can be incredibly adjustable. Hope this helps!
When are you and Barry from the Sim Racing Garage getting together to review products you 2 guys definitely set a high standard. Also interested to know your views on the OSW from simracingbay weather you think the larger MiGe motor with a peak 30nm is a overkill and if the smaller MiGe with a peak 20NM is plenty sufficent, i dont want the smaller motor to disappoint, but is the larger motor a overkill ?
Pros: sturdy design with minimal flex Cons: Seat could be more comfortable and STABLE Kinda contradicting. Potential buyer here but this worries me: would you mind to describe more please?
Great review as always! I like all the adjustability in the rig, and the sliding wheel mount is a very nice thing to have. Looks like it would be tricky to get in and out of, but that’s par for the course I am guessing. How well do you think a rig like that would accommodate someone taller like I am (6’5)? Also, I can guarantee I would bash my knuckles at least once using the shifter when it’s that close to the wheel mount.
I think for someone of your height, it would be a lot easier for you. Since I'm on the shorter side, it means I have to have everything closer. Since you can move everything further away, you'd likely get a little more adjustability, and it may be even easier for you to use the shifter (possibly, can't make any promises).
Ok, thanks for the info! Not that I’m in any position to buy one of these right now, but it’s good to know I would at least fit! I do have a bit of a bad back, so the pillow would likely become crucial.
This is terrible if you plan on using the Fanatec clubsport shifter, the shifter is basically a full out-stretched arms length from you which is massively unrealistic, hugely uncomfortable and makes you not want to drive any H pattern cars. There's nothing you can do to bring the shifter any closer to you either. I'd say this is a pretty significant point as it makes an entire class and generation of cars borderline un-drivable.
it’s not just quality control. the f1 gt i have has many design problems. i guessing the fgt is better, but from reviews from 2nd gen buyers most problems are still there. nlr is like walmart. they just pump out crap that’s good enough and it’s on the shelves we frequent online. once quality rigs are available online or locally it will be a forgotten rig.
You say that you noticed some flex until you tightened it like that's a nuisance of some sorts... It's a little weird you would even include that statement in the review, when it sounds like it was your own fault. So when you then go on to say that it actually took you half an hour to convert the setup instead of the 10 minutes they claim, it of course makes it seem more like you're being clumsy than them mislabeling it.
It's actually pretty decent if you need a small form factor. I'm in an apartment so didn't have a ton of room and it's working out well. Regarding the price, The RS1 is $1000 USD, I was able to get one of these new for $500 CAD or about $375 USD, so it's a huge price difference.
I keep running into videos he made and gotta say he was one of the best out there had he not passed away he could easily have been the biggest Sim guy on UA-cam. RIP buddy.
Gee, what a loss to humanity. I'm still sad.
r.i.p William Marsh 😥 I discovered this channel for his excellent review of this rig. Such a nice warm voice. Cannot believe he's gone. 💔 I hope you've finally found your peace.
@Oliver Ronnie please just stfu bots. He died
how did he die? damn i feel kinda sad cus hes the one that encouraged me to get this racing sim 😔
@@a.c5253 same. I’m curious about this as well.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the way you should do a review!
Having watched your review I am going to spend £299.99 on this rig as it's Black Friday. Thank you!
Great review. I own this cockpit, and personally have a slight difference of opinion when it comes to ergonomics and comfort. Looking at the seat in pictures and even in person it does not look as comfortable as it actually is. However, IMO, it is one of the best things about this cockpit. I find it comfortable and very supportive. I am 5'11" and 180 lbs, and was able to find a perfect seating position for my liking. (BTW..only race in GT). The shifter mount was also perfect for me, but I can see with the lack of up and down that some may not get it exactly to their liking. I also have the pedals in lower GT position connected to the front plate, and find that when in that position they have more flex than what I would like. The thing about cockpits, is they always fit each person a little differently. I would like to add that I have contacted NLR about the flex in the pedal plate, and they are very responsive.
Hey a question, can you change the seat on it to a different one? If i can then it's a no brainer but I'm not a big fan of the seat
so what would you recommend for someone who doesnt need the F1 seating position and would like a handbrake in a similar price range?
Found an answer?
Maybe trak racer or other next level racing stuff
The F-GT does have keyboard mount posibilities, but you'll need to buy it extra its not included with the seat, but than again a lot of cockpits dont come with included keyboard trays/ mounts
Best review out there!
Bravo!
Excellent review. Professional and well spoken. Nice touch adding my rig. 😆
my mom just bought it for me and im so exited im getting it in about a week
Im happy for you
@@faresjalil7493 thankyou, ive been using ig for about 3 months i think almost 4 and ive not have any problems although if you sit on it for too long maybe lets say 5-6 hours you’ll start feeling back pain but i still like it i shoulve bought the playseat instead cuz it was cheaper
@@a.c5253 yes i understand next year i gonna buy a full New setup so im looking a cheap good seat to play
@@a.c5253 I have one and I use it almost solely in Formula seating, I flipped the pedal plate to make my pedals hang as well with an anti-fatigue pad on the ground to add some cushion. Next I hung the shifter arm off the standing arms for the wheelbase to raise the height of my shifter and E-brake, allowing me to angle them both about 20 degrees towards me and making them very easy to reach without having to move my hand far from the wheel. Next I'm ordering a more comfortable chair and mounting it to the existing rails on the rig, I'm assuming I will have to drill some holes to make it work but I'm looking forward to the upgrade. I've only had mine for about 10 months and looking back i may have gone with something different, but the adjustability has allowed me to really customize how I have it built so I quite enjoy the overall purchase.
Great honest review man.
what about the top headrest it looks like it is going forward by a lot.... maybe a bit too much????
Rest in peace my brother , you are greatly missed!
Informative review. Thank you.
Great review - no BS! Well done.
RIP William Marsh
RIP You are missed
We want to see you trying to get out of it :)
Where i can fix my tss handbrake if i've my th8a like u ? Anyone got solution ? thx
Gotta love the sim socks xD
Does it support 8nm dd wheels
Hi, thanks for the grate review. Is it easy to move? My setup is not permanent.
thinking about using this with the Yaw 2
Does this fold up for easy storage? It says that on their website. Also, is it adjustable enough that a kid could reach the pedals?
I think only the F-GT lite folds up for easy storage. I don't know about the pedals though.
if you lifted the pedal plate, it'd be like in an F1 cockpit
Which screws did the cockpit came
Will a handbrake and shifter both fit on the chair at the same time?
Did you get the answer? I’m curious aswell
Yes it is possible. another video on youtube showed it. if I find it ill link it
what games he played
Does this fit the next level v3
motion platform?
This is cool
But
It hurts my brain when people call “fanatec” “fanatic”
That's how it's pronounced. It's not fana-tech.
You are a donkey
@NikV7 Fanatec themselves say "fanatic" not "fanatech" so ding dong you're wrong
@@RowdyBrian17 No. Its the company who is wrong.
@@fredurdead The company named the product, and because Fanatec is not a dictionary word, they get the right to dictate the correct pronunciation so it's dumb to say the company is wrong.
Incredible review. Can one change the seat to something else? If so, it's an absolute no-brainer upgrade from my Playseat Evolution for xbox series x imo.
Sadly he passed away some time ago
@@scottd7222 omg the youtuber??
@@lfclegend7327Yes, sadly.
Got this rig and I can tell if you are above 6 ft 3 or above 200 lbs this is not your rig. The review is professional but this guy seems to a bit heavier than 200 lbs (true?) and shows that you are cramped into this rig. I am the "skinny" guy (5 ft 10 / 1.81cm 165 lbs / 75kg's - the perfect F1 racer :-) and this fits like a glove. Also tested the playseat Revolution and this like sitting high up compared to this F1 setting.
you mentioned the GT omega. how does this compare? would you prefer this as they are around the same price range?
I'd prefer this easily over the GT Omega Art and Pro. I have not tested the Titan or Prime yet, but I'd assume that the Prime would be a bit more of a beefy cockpit.
@@Simracingpaddock cheers for the response. great video btw!
@@Simracingpaddock Probably, yeah, since the Prime is an aluminum extrusion rig. However, for the price, it really doesn't get better than the F-GT, since it's a solid rig and you also get a functional seat. Also, you basically made me order the rig, thanks lol.
I have the F1 GT rig and I purchased next level’s keyboard tray and mounted it to the left body rail. It works fine.
Could you pls link the tray, I cant find it.
how many washers did you end up buying to assemble the f1?
I got it, its not best and not worst. I hate the seat, and i dont find any issues with gearbox, and since you use thrustmaster u can mount it bit different so it wont be so close to wheel mount. I think it is possible now to find a better, more stiff, and more upgrade options for that price, but if u are willing to give up Formula position. As i said its fine, but i wouldnt buy it again if mine break.
What would you recommend these days? My budget is $600
The rig looks decent but the seats look cheap with minimal padding which is a concern
Thank You
it would seem that all next level seats are missing padding, i have the gt ultimate cockpit and the seat feels like im sitting on concrete, not great for the back thats for sure
Good review, but why do you say fanatec like that
Frame looks great, but the chair doesn’t seem to be as nice ?
This be good for stock cars?
do people actually use their left foot to break? you arent the only person ive seen do it. is it really a thing?
In racing, you want to have as minimal a time on the brake as possible, so if you're not having to use the clutch while driving, Left Foot Braking is a technique that a lot of people should have down.
Look up "Left Foot Braking" on UA-cam and you can find some cool videos talking about when to use it and when not to
Can you tell me whats the different between F-GT and F1GT
Full list of changes at the 0:55 mark in the video
Could you look into the arozzi velocita? It looks very interesting for $200. Detailed reviews as usual!
I've owned this exact rig for two years and it hasn't really held up. The pedal deck is flimsy, the wheel deck is even flimsier with a lot of play, no matter how much I tighten it. The rod holding up the wheeldeck is kind of annoying because there's a literal rod sticking up between my legs, but it's bearable. Also, they handled the office chair compatibility horribly: the seat legs detach under use, which is super annoying, especially in the middle of an online race. However, for the price, it's a decent starter rig. Just don't expect it to hold up to something like a CSL elite.
Which cockpit is the best out there?
In my opinion, the ones built out of Aluminum Extrusion (sometimes referred to as "80/20 Cockpits") tend to be the best quality. You can either go the DIY route, with a custom design (see The SimPit's video for an example), or buy a pre-designed setup from a company (Sim-Lab, JCL Sim Racing, 4Play Racing are some examples). They tend to be the sturdiest designs and can be incredibly adjustable.
Hope this helps!
Will this work with the T3PA PRO Pedals??
Do you lift?
I was gonna buy this rig but I went with the Rseat instead. Comfort and structure is a must
If you are going to mount a Fanatec shiffter skip this rig it will be really next to the deck !
When are you and Barry from the Sim Racing Garage getting together to review products you 2 guys definitely set a high standard. Also interested to know your views on the OSW from simracingbay weather you think the larger MiGe motor with a peak 30nm is a overkill and if the smaller MiGe with a peak 20NM is plenty sufficent, i dont want the smaller motor to disappoint, but is the larger motor a overkill ?
Pros: sturdy design with minimal flex
Cons: Seat could be more comfortable and STABLE
Kinda contradicting. Potential buyer here but this worries me: would you mind to describe more please?
The frame itself is sturdy, but the seat itself leaves quite a bit to be desired.
@@Simracingpaddock hey thanks!
Shoulder support is not so well.
Great review as always! I like all the adjustability in the rig, and the sliding wheel mount is a very nice thing to have. Looks like it would be tricky to get in and out of, but that’s par for the course I am guessing. How well do you think a rig like that would accommodate someone taller like I am (6’5)? Also, I can guarantee I would bash my knuckles at least once using the shifter when it’s that close to the wheel mount.
I think for someone of your height, it would be a lot easier for you. Since I'm on the shorter side, it means I have to have everything closer. Since you can move everything further away, you'd likely get a little more adjustability, and it may be even easier for you to use the shifter (possibly, can't make any promises).
Ok, thanks for the info! Not that I’m in any position to buy one of these right now, but it’s good to know I would at least fit! I do have a bit of a bad back, so the pillow would likely become crucial.
Is it possible to install buttkicker when the rig is in formula position?
Yes you can the Buttkicker can mount to the front or back of the seat frame so for Formula you can mount to the frame under the front of seat
This is terrible if you plan on using the Fanatec clubsport shifter, the shifter is basically a full out-stretched arms length from you which is massively unrealistic, hugely uncomfortable and makes you not want to drive any H pattern cars. There's nothing you can do to bring the shifter any closer to you either. I'd say this is a pretty significant point as it makes an entire class and generation of cars borderline un-drivable.
Can you move the shifter to the left side? Like in Japanese cars? (I'm playing Initial D)
Yes you can put it on either side
Can i hook this up to my xbox one?
Nice
At this price range. Which rig would you suggest today?
Dude you look super cramped. Assume they sent you this for review. You didn’t buy it right? What cockpit would you recommend in the $500 range?
it’s not just quality control. the f1 gt i have has many design problems. i guessing the fgt is better, but from reviews from 2nd gen buyers most problems are still there.
nlr is like walmart. they just pump out crap that’s good enough and it’s on the shelves we frequent online.
once quality rigs are available online or locally it will be a forgotten rig.
good review though, sorry for talking about your driving.
Def not a seat for a big boy.
I weigh 250, 5”11 tall. Not a problem for me. May need a pillow for the chair back though.
You say that you noticed some flex until you tightened it like that's a nuisance of some sorts... It's a little weird you would even include that statement in the review, when it sounds like it was your own fault. So when you then go on to say that it actually took you half an hour to convert the setup instead of the 10 minutes they claim, it of course makes it seem more like you're being clumsy than them mislabeling it.
The seat in the gt position is terrible. Pushes the neck forward.
for s a second i saw the oculus rift.
Seat looks like dentist chair.
Im so happy with rSeat. This looks like crap for almost same price***
It's actually pretty decent if you need a small form factor. I'm in an apartment so didn't have a ton of room and it's working out well. Regarding the price, The RS1 is $1000 USD, I was able to get one of these new for $500 CAD or about $375 USD, so it's a huge price difference.
A lot of your opinions and complains can be fixed by losing the extra weight bro.
Please do not ever compare the Sim racing garage and Barry Rowland to this guy nowhere close
Wow, never saw a stranded whale in a sim rig
😂😂😂😂😂
OMG finally, a grown man. I never want to spand any money on something review by a skinny guy! How can the tell if the stuff will last!? :D
Excellent review. Professional and well spoken. Nice touch adding my rig. 😆
I have one don't waste your money the most uncomfortable thing I have ever bought had to purchase an aftermarket seat to put on it
I love mine. just made a new bracket for my Fanatec DD for it.