Basket weave hook, a first look
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Looking back on Matt Jenkins hook demo at the 2018 Rocky Mountain Blacksmithing Conference. I thought I would try out his basket weave idea. This first forged basket weave is a bit rough, but a great test forging.
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That's really cool. Thanks for posting this. "This video is getting a little long." Pish posh! :-) It takes as long as it takes. I appreciate the detail.
I love the learning curve. I think my middle name is learning curve, since I have started trying blacksmithing.
Keep it up man! Got to show all these kids out there that there is much more to blacksmithing that making knives or blades!
I do hope that message comes accross
man that is a neat effect. I liked the idea you mentioned mid way through about possibly punching the squares all the way through.
Good first attempt I like watching the rough go at it
To be a blacksmith you not only work with metal but also have to be artistic. A nice decorative hook.
That came out cool. I like the proportions between the size of the hook and the top. I agree the next one should have a smaller weave with a continuous border!
Very cool technique and it looks pretty good for something that you would consider a failure! I think it's important to show the tings that don't work out sometimes because I think people get the impression that things turn out perfectly every time and get discouraged when their attempts don't work out. The next video out on my channel will be one where I completely mangle a pretty simple bottle opener ... it's all part of the process of learning and growing. Hopefully as one gains experience and skill there are fewer and less catastrophic failures but I suspect that if your not failing at all, your also not learning anything. Well done!
I know you’re a busy man, and have revenue orders to fulfill, but feel free to make these videos as long as you need to.....I’ll keep watching. Great looking hook, John!!
Great work! and I love your courage to show pieces where you "fail".
Just when I am getting a good handle on making your ball end hooks you come up with another winner. Thanks, John.
Love the absolute perfect fit of the basket weave in the tongs when you taper the hook at the end ! :D
Sometimes you get lucky
Me too! How long till I have made enough tools? Ever?
I'm Just setting out made a nail and a small hook fron a nail both times I have learned something love your vids
After seeing this project, I'm just itching to make some of these types of hooks. I think, however, that I will cut some square practice blanks from the bar stock to make sure I've got it down pat before I botch up a hook!!
This was a great idea for a video. Thanks for making it.
It never hurts to practice
Well, John, your inspiration for the basket weave came to fruition. Yesterday, I made a 3 x 3 basket weave on 1/4" x 2" x 2" for practice and today forged out a large hook, drawing out some 1/4" x 2" bar to about 3/4" x 12" long for the hook with a 2" x 4" top to make the "for real" basket weave and started the layout. Should finish tomorrow or next day, time permitting. Those are fun to make!! I had to make the two butcher tools though, since I didn't have any. Used coil spring for stock.
Nice looking hook. I've noticed you switched your favorite tongs. You used to mostly use the bolt tongs. Now you mostly use the slotted jaw tongs. I know 10000000 tongs are not enough, but the most versatile tend to be our favorites. Thanks again John.
I still prefer bolt or V bit for square or round bar. But if the slotted jaws fit, they are pretty nice for the flat stuff
All your videos are Great
Thank you so much
nice job correcting he diamond you do really clean work
Thanks
Love your videos. Thank you for teaching us the art of blacksmithing. Could you possibly show people which side if your hammer you are using. It's tough to see sometimes
That is something that I am always watching for John. Maybe a little white paint on the edge of one face so we can keep track if we want to.
nice explanation, I agree with some of the other comments here. it doesn't matter that it is not perfect, the important part is the explanation and teaching how it is done. I'm new to the channel so I will have to catch up on other videos. Thanks
That's neat. And you're right. It is just like tooling a basketweave in leather.
That was a worthwhile project,
And your suggestions were good Ones! Even larger?? For use of course.
Keep Hammering !!!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed watching you fiddle away with it. Your fiddling is much more productive than my fiddling for sure! I must say, I saw the fly press in the last wide shot and would live to see you use that. I want one badly but, when I consider the cost in the US, I keep convincing myself to just save for the hydraulic press instead.
I will be using the fly press more. It can be a handy tool. better for details than the hydraulic press, but the hydraulic press is more powerful for moving big material.
Love these hooks
Great video and great teacher
Thank you for what you do and the inspiration!
Nice hook. I would like to try that but I have to make the tools first. I don’t have any hand butchers Hey John I did my first drop tongs weld today. And it took the first try. I’m very excited Thanks to you my skills are improving and it becoming even more fun. Keep up the good work and THX again for all your help....... Paul
Way to go on the weld. Congradulations
Looks great
Looks great...nice job!
I really liked this project, thanks again!
I like it thanks. It looks very nice.
Always a pleasure to watch you work John!!
I learned a lot from your wonderful work
That's a lot of fun! I'll be trying my hand this design!
Amazing, love watching you create. I think it came out just fine.
All good John, nothing wrong with that!
Really cool for how it's done. Enjoying the videos and learning so much! Thanks
Very rustic, highly creative. Loved it! Thanks for sharing.
Love this John, gonna try making one of these.
Thanks for your great videos and I agree with Scott it takes as long as it takes :)!!
Love the multiple camera angles. Makes the viewing more interesting. The actual content is great as usual.😀
It came out great...I like it.
thanks
Super job. My wife and I watched this intently. I did have a plan to make a couple of ball peen hammer to hatchet conversions today, but, plans change. I am going to get my basket weave on, instead. I appreciate you explaining this to us.
John, thanks for sharing as is. I think for those of us that are still learning, it is good to also see things not go 100% all the time. There is a need to know how to recover from mistakes, or a lack of skill on the part of the operator. This is a wonderful edition to the"hook" knowledge base on UA-cam. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
loving the new camangles.
Thanks
I agree with Scot . It takes what it takes. Keep it up, John your doing great!
This is an awesome project John. I'll have to try one sometime.
I like it just like it is!
I like it! As a leatherworker I'm going to have to make a couple of these to show off my belts. Basketweaves are a favorite of mine. Thanks for sharing!
Might even make a good belt buckle
I like it the way it is
Cool hook! I agree it would look good with 3x3 pattern
Very cool
Looking good, I rather kind of like the weave overlapping the border.... now I want to try that!
I want to see the rest of the border done too, the sides of the border that were untouched would be done near the corners if you continue the pattern.
I like the basket weave pattern, seems like it's not too difficult but has a nice result.
I like those tongs I wish I had a pair like that
It takes time to make some things look good. So if you want it to look nice to invest the time to make it look nice. Thats been a bit of a struggle for me but I'm learning. I loke the look and hope you do it again. I'd really like to learn to do this one. Thanks John!
Very cool effect,thank you for taking the time to share it,also got to learn while it did turn out great that even a very well seasoned smith like you can sometimes not get things quite the way you had in mind so I feel like I got to learn more that just a new forging technique from this one.With that said I can help but get distracted at times with how cool your shop is and all the tools in the back ground,I was thinking a video on how to forge the double calipers hanging behind you would be a really cool one if you could maybe work that into your busy schedule someday!
Those will definitely be a video in the future.
I think that the rustic look is great if you make a smaller pattern it may look to crowded and if you make the top larger it will mess up the scale. good job be well and be safe
I would recommend using a silver pencil to lay out the basket weave while the piece is cold, then using the chisel and punches to mark out where the lines go. It is too easy to put a line in the wrong place. Looking at an actual basket might help too.
I never said I'd like to see you fail...
What I did say was that I like to see the mistakes, and how to avoid and fix them
Since there were only four depressions, I think carrying the weave illusion onto the border was a good idea. Had there been 9 an unbroken border would have been better. BTW, I'm liking the different video viewpoints. You mentioned lighting in one of your videos and whatever lighting you used in this one was excellent, although I don't know if it would have interfered with your seeing the color of the iron had that been needed.
John, Matt's hook may look better but how many of that type has he made? As you know, we're always learning, thanks for another great lesson - John, I was looking for hooks that would compliment my Arts & Craft (Mouseman styled) hall stand that I've been making - I think I've just found them, I'll probably have to cast them out of brass/bronze, due to the tannins in the oak. 👍
Lol @ "don't quote me on this one!"
Not sure if I am the only one watching wondering if you could make a video about the tongs you were using for this. I was wondering how you would hold it to work the hook and then you had the perfect tongs... lovely work
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Punching the square holes all the way through would achieve a more knotwork type look, versus basket weave. Nice job all around.
I enjoyed the video very much as usual John and I like the basket weave pattern but I’m just curious what it would look like if you used the square punch at the end to clean up the butcher squeezing material into the square area what do you think?
It would be worth trying
Did you ever do a video on the making of the1st & 2nd pass butcher. Thanks John.
I know I have talked about them several times, but I don't recall if I have done a specific video
Can I suggest that each project you show us what type of tongs are being used?
John I had all sorts of trouble with this, totally messed it up, just couldn't get the cuts and bevels right.
Its easy to get out of order on where things go. You could practice in clay
Yeah good Idea John.
I'm still very very green on blacksmithing, and last night an idea daunted me a little.. I wanted to forge a simple spiral bracelet with a head design at one end, but I would want the main body to that to be half-round; so the flat part goes on the arm and not cause the same pressure that a full round stock would create..
Is it possible to have half-round forged bars without too many tools or even none? Or at least I have to build a half-round bottom swage?
No matter how long your videos are, I'm still engaged until the end.. And love the "Tool of the day" series, being a freshman it helps me a lot..
Having a bottom swage would really help in making half round bars. But you could try to forge by hand and eye then spend some time grinding or filing
That was my other option.. :) I try to scrounge around and find some stock that I could use to make a swage bar, like I saw you made in one of your videos.. Multiple radiuses will help me also to mimic a sort of tail.. Thank you for your answer!!
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opps
Watching this video carefully, I think the “haze” is light glare...as soon as you stepped in front of the light it went away on that side..
That may be, the little actin cam seems pretty light sensitive.
I'm not a blacksmith, so take this with a grain of salt. I wonder if, after you did your second pass if you went back in with your square punch and cleaned up the original squares a little.....
You certainly could do that
great video. the video length is irrelevant, the details and explanation are necessary. a 5 min video that explains nothing and jump cuts over the details would be useless.
a noob question, but would it be possible to make a handsaw with blacksmithing skills? just a small handsaw about the length of a hacksaw.
I am sure the very first saws were made with skills found in most blacksmith shops. However t hey were also not up to the standards we would have today. Quality hand saws would have been made in highly specialized shops and I would imagine the saw plates were rolled by a rolling mill as opposed to being forged.