Hannah you should watch Shtisel, it's also on Netflix. I liked it even better than Unorthodox. They paint Orthodoxy in a much more humane light. Be well!
Soooo many people have told me to watch it (my mom LOVES it) I just haven't gotten around to it. Hopefully in the near future! Thanks for putting it on my radar again
Shtisel is *such* an amazing show. It's one of the very few instances where I've seen a media portrayal of Haredim where they're shown as complex, multifaceted human beings, not just as 1 dimensional freaks and fanatics in funny clothes.
It's true that the themes, details, perspectives, and customs in Netflix's Unorthodox are not representative of "orthodox Judaism", but both the show and Deborah Feldman's book are portraying the Satmar Hassidic community, which is completely different from the modern orthodox world that Hannah lives in, as evidenced by the fact that Hannah watches Netflix and has a UA-cam channel. It's good that Hannah is addressing misconceptions about orthodox Judaism that a less-informed viewer may away from Unorthodox (which unaptly contains the word "orthodox" in its very title), but Hannah should acknowledge that in this video she is simply distinguishing between modern orthodoxy and Hasidism, instead of implying that Unorthodox is laden with inaccuracies.
I actually don't consider myself modern orthodox, but that's a whole other story and topic for discussion. But yes, I should have distinguished between the mainstream orthodox world and Satmar Chasidim. I used this video as somewhat of a damage control for people who have never had any exposure to the Orthodox world outside of the show "Unorthodox."
I am a chosidic jew, we Can use the internent, most of us just choose not to. The internet expects lots of emotional energy from you at all times, and most poskim talk about this. This isn't even indicative of Satmarim, it is extremely dramatised and biased. Now Devorah Feldman's book is much more accurate than this show, Netlfix needed something to make money off of. Haredim are not a cult as this show would love to portray us as. I am a Baal Teshuva, I chose to join the Haredi world, so the whole "brainwashed argument" is moot.
I haven't seen Unorthodox but I have watched a few interviews with Deborah Feldman. I found it quite astonishing that what you say seems to outright invalidate Feldman's description of her experiences in the Satmar community. Particularly what she says about the role of fear and control. I think Peter Santenello and Shloime Zionce did a great job of showing a very likable side of Hasidism here on UA-cam. But they did not invalidate Feldman by doing so. As an outsider to this world I felt I got a better understanding by seeing both sides, as they do not necessarily contradict each other. In an extremely closed community like Satmar there could certainly be abuse of power and control on one hand and a strong sense of caring for each other and a striving for a morally good life according to their religious belief on the other. That's one of the paradoxes of human nature, too much of anything often comes at a cost.
I DONT SEE WHY DEBORAH F WOULD LIE. SHE LEFT THE COMMINITY FOR A REASON. SHE SOULD NOT LEAVE IF SHE WAS HAPPY. SOMETHING WAS WRONG. DEBORAH F, EXPERIENCE IN SATMAR MIGHT BE DOFFERENT FOR OTHERS. HOWEVER, SHE RAN FROM THEM.
I absolutely understand your viewpoint (that the media portrays Orthodox Judaism particularly negatively) but I have been trying to do research on Judaism for two years now and it has been incredibly difficult to talk to Orthodox Jews so is it not plausible that for complete outsiders, the only impressions they get are either from people who've exited their orthodox communities, thus talking very negatively about it or from what they see on the streets? (Which might be interpreted as extreme and therefore bad) I agree with you that it sucks for the community and their reputation to be portrayed so negatively but maybe it is just (and I must admit, this situation has been improving vastly thanks to UA-cam and people like you or @Chusidel) the lack of knowledge on the orthodox way to life that makes you an easy victim of misunderstandings? I am really grateful for people like you and for the contents you share online and I am certain that media representation will improve for your community and until then, I, as a non-orthodox Jew, will continue to do my part in spreading more than just the negatives about Jewish life:)
You are absolutely correct. For people who have no way to be exposed to mainstream Orthodoxy, it can be really hard to know that there is more to religious Judaism than this show. That is one of the main reasons why I wanted to share this channel-- to show my life as a religious Jew in secular college, and show that there are so many faces and facets to Orthodoxy! Thank you for watching and for commenting!
The main character was so confusing. It was as though she hadn’t grown up in the community, it was almost like she was meant to be a stand in for the secular viewer who was constantly shocked by things like shidduch dating, hair shaving, etc. that would just be treated as normal in the Satmar world. Her reactions to things seemed like that of someone born yesterday, or having just gotten to the community. It was so weird to me. I also hated the head shaving scene. I couldn’t stand the Holocaust imagery there, and it was again a time where it seemed like she was so shocked at the hair shaving as though she didn’t know it was going to be happening, which obviously a Satmar bride would expect and maybe it would be sad, but she would know what was happening and why, it would be normal. My rebbitzin for example doesn’t shave her hair, as she is Chabad not Satmar, but she has it cut short so her sheitel fits better, and cause it’s easier to take care of, and it’s not a big deal, it’s just normal.
Yes!! I had not thought about it that way at all but you are 1000% correct. I'm sure that women in the Satmar community know it's a thing to shave their heads!
@@hannahsimone7373 Loved your video. I think the biggest issue is that the movie isn't called "Un-Hasidic" it's called "Unorthodox." Obviously a double-entendre; Esty is an 'unorthodox' person and 'Orthodox' is a branch of Judaism. Cute turn of phrase. The issue of course is that making that turn of phrase almost guarantees that a non-Jew watching will confuse Orthodox Judaism with the Satmar practices. That couldn't have been unintentional, and it's sad that so many Orthodox people are now having to do damage control.
@@AF-tv6uf yes, totally. Very well said and that distinction is so important and the reason why the show was hurtful to many. People who do not know this difference will get a false impression of religious Judaism
@@hannahsimone7373 Yes! In the book, the memoirist ( Deborah Feldman) knew her head would be shaved and she was quite matter-of-fact about the event when it happened. The book explained the practices, history, and beliefs of the Satmar community very well ( at least I thought so, coming to this topic with little prior knowledge about that community.) The TV show was ridiculous. It is too bad it was even made, but hopefully some who learn of Deborah Feldman's story through the Netflix show will watch with a critical mind and then read the book on which it is based.
I’ve watched Unorthodox in its entirety. I’m not Jewish but I was born, raised and still live in the Lower East Side of New York City. When I was growing up, we had a large modern Orthodox Jewish community in our neighborhood; although this community has been decreasing in recent years; as many modern Orthodox Jews seem to have moved out of the neighborhood, I don’t know where to. From my understanding, the biggest communities of Jews in America, or at least here in New York are 1) secular Jews, such as Jerry Seinfeld, who are people that identify as Jewish mainly through cultural heritage, celebrate the more-well-known Jewish holidays such as Hanukkah and Passover, but do not believe in the religion at all; or at least very little. The ones who do go to temple tend to go to a more “modern” temple, and many do not go to temple every single week or holiday. 2) Modern Orthodox Jews, such as Ben Shapiro, who live as modernly as most Americans, in ways such as having smartphones and social media, speaking English both in public and at home, women are allowed to be rabbis in some cases, etc, but they tend to keep more of the conservative aspects of Jewish religion and culture, ie men might wear yarmulkes and payos, and women may wear long skirts, they believe more in the religion, are observant of Shabbos, eat Kosher, etc. I believe there is a significant modern orthodox Jewish community in Staten Island. 3) Ultra Orthodox/Hasidic Jews, such as Deborah Feldman pre-Berlin. In New York City, almost all Ultra Orthodox Jews live in Brooklyn, with large concentrations in South Williamsburg, Crown Heights and Borough Park. I believe there is also a town in upstate NY called Kiryas Joel which has a majority Ultra Orthodox Jewish population. The most strict, conservative, and religious Ultra Orthodox Jews, however, at least from what I’ve heard, are the Satmar Jews in South Williamsburg, Brooklyn. These are Jews, from my understanding, who believe in and practice every earliest aspect of the Ashkenazi Jewish religious and cultural beliefs. They teach each other not to trust outsiders, and speaking or learning English is forbidden (they speak Yiddish; Hebrew only in religious instances such as synagogue). Men wear long coats and shreimels; women are covered from almost head to toe and once married cannot have or show any natural hair. No television or internet. Especially for women. Only house phones and flip phones are allowed. By the standards of the majority American culture, the women in this community have little to no rights. However, I understand some Ultra Orthodox women may be happy and okay with their lifestyle. Some, but not all (case in point, Deborah Feldman and other women who have “escaped” the community). I believe the Rabbi who founded the Satmar sect took all of the Jewish laws he grew up with and after the war he made some “extreme” interpretations of these laws that he taught his followers to practice. Many “orthodox” Jews who have reviewed Unorthodox appear to be Modern Orthodox. As a native New Yorker who grew up in a city with a large Jewish diaspora, I know for a fact that any person, especially a woman, who is a member of the Ultra Orthodox Jewish community by choice would not have access to UA-cam. My question for you, and this is not meant in a challenging or aggressive way, but rather just out of genuine curiosity is what type of a Jew do you consider yourself? Secular or Orthodox? If Orthodox, modern or Ultra? If modern, do you have any proof of or insight to how the Ultra Orthodox Community lives? I have some friends who were raised and still identify as modern orthodox Jewish, and they told me that they have almost no clue how the Ultra Orthodox/Hasidic community lives. They described the Hasidic Jews as a very private, secretive, isolated and closed off community. Few outsiders, Jewish or non-Jewish, Orthodox or Secular. seem to have a clue how Hasidic Jews live. Curious as to what your thoughts are on this. God bless and have an amazing day 😊
I really liked how you stressed that you're not Satmar and this video's aim is to simply broaden knowledge about judaism in general, without belittling the experiences of others. I know that religion can be a right path for someone, but we should acknowledge that some people are oppressed by it. Overall, a great watch, thank you!
I'm not sure why they added the Berlin portion in there seen as it never happened. Plus that's when it gets weird, she applies for the Harry Potter like school with the ensemble of quirky characters to get her through her time there. The series itself felt unfinished but they should probably leave it where it stands. Like most Netflix shows it starts off quite promising then suddenly nosedives.
You’re a very nice young lady but in regards to Satmer you are very mistaken. I agree that Judaism gets a bad rap but all the rules that actually you highlighted are actual part of their belief system. In regards to learning Gemara in regards to Nida in regards to shaving the hair for Tznius in regards to the first mitzvah in the Torah
Thanks for your nice video! I loved watching, but at min 9:42 couldn't keep watching anymore. Your comments are only true in theory or in the non chasidish community. So far every single example you gave is pretty realistic and common in the chasidish community. It is the absolute norm. ..my Kalla teacher taught me exactly the same including keep on ur clothing... the sex scene is was unfortunately very very real (in chasidic sect). We need to remember this movie is about ultra chassidic , not the mainstream. You keep saying this is not true in jewdaism or in the mainstream. But it is veru very real abd true in ultra chassidic communities (lubavitch not included!!!)
Dude do you know the difference between orthodox and ultraorthodox? It seems that's is the point you were missing in the video. U are orthodox. And Esti was ultraorthodox.
You are right that there is a difference between "orthodox" and "ultra orthodox" but not everyone understands the nuance, therefor I just referred to Orthodox Judaism. This video was meant to be somewhat of a damage control for people who have never had any exposure to the Orthodox world outside of the show "Unorthodox."
My boyfriend is a former yeshiva boy who is now an atheist! He's very intelligent and tried hard to hold on to his culture, but he couldn't get past the flaws in logic... The problem is all the damage in not obtaining proper education, not to mention the psychological damage of being forced to be someone who doesn't align with your own values and beliefs. Control is not harmless, and I know you're just a young woman, but there are many Hasidish communities that are just as cultish as the show.
I would never want to diminish or invalidate anyone's experiences or reality. Orthodoxy is not perfect and I know that there are people who have negative experiences, but that does not speak for all of Judaism. I heard someone say "don't judge Judaism by the Jews." while I wish this were not the case it unfortunately can be true. I am a strong believer in that everyone needs to do what is right for them and everyone needs to choose Judaism for themselves, how every that may look like. For me, I did not grow up religious (my parents are both from the former USSR if that gives you any idea) and chose it in high school. I do not feel controlled at all but very empowered. Again, I know not everyone has positive experiences but I would not go so far as to label orthodox Judaism a cult.
@@hannahsimone7373 I appreciate your nice reply. I think I understand your perspective, and the issue I quite disagree with is the whole idea of an Orhtodox form of religion... The rigidity required to maintain the religion has to become one of the most difficult things to accomplish day-to-day. To me it's just such a waste of talent and brain space! (You won't agree I know) Look at Israeli tech though.. Amazing! What if the yeshivas and seminaries were less purity focused and more individual talent focused? I think it would just be amazing! Orthodox is inherently unhealthy because it takes up too much of your life and doesn't allow for you to be who you really are. You're always guided along a line, within a religious parameter, pretending to be an individual thinker. Again, I know you won't agree but thanks if you read it anyway.
Hannah you should watch Shtisel, it's also on Netflix. I liked it even better than Unorthodox. They paint Orthodoxy in a much more humane light. Be well!
Soooo many people have told me to watch it (my mom LOVES it) I just haven't gotten around to it. Hopefully in the near future! Thanks for putting it on my radar again
Shtisel is *such* an amazing show. It's one of the very few instances where I've seen a media portrayal of Haredim where they're shown as complex, multifaceted human beings, not just as 1 dimensional freaks and fanatics in funny clothes.
It's true that the themes, details, perspectives, and customs in Netflix's Unorthodox are not representative of "orthodox Judaism", but both the show and Deborah Feldman's book are portraying the Satmar Hassidic community, which is completely different from the modern orthodox world that Hannah lives in, as evidenced by the fact that Hannah watches Netflix and has a UA-cam channel. It's good that Hannah is addressing misconceptions about orthodox Judaism that a less-informed viewer may away from Unorthodox (which unaptly contains the word "orthodox" in its very title), but Hannah should acknowledge that in this video she is simply distinguishing between modern orthodoxy and Hasidism, instead of implying that Unorthodox is laden with inaccuracies.
I actually don't consider myself modern orthodox, but that's a whole other story and topic for discussion. But yes, I should have distinguished between the mainstream orthodox world and Satmar Chasidim. I used this video as somewhat of a damage control for people who have never had any exposure to the Orthodox world outside of the show "Unorthodox."
I am a chosidic jew, we Can use the internent, most of us just choose not to. The internet expects lots of emotional energy from you at all times, and most poskim talk about this. This isn't even indicative of Satmarim, it is extremely dramatised and biased. Now Devorah Feldman's book is much more accurate than this show, Netlfix needed something to make money off of. Haredim are not a cult as this show would love to portray us as. I am a Baal Teshuva, I chose to join the Haredi world, so the whole "brainwashed argument" is moot.
I haven't seen Unorthodox but I have watched a few interviews with Deborah Feldman. I found it quite astonishing that what you say seems to outright invalidate Feldman's description of her experiences in the Satmar community. Particularly what she says about the role of fear and control.
I think Peter Santenello and Shloime Zionce did a great job of showing a very likable side of Hasidism here on UA-cam. But they did not invalidate Feldman by doing so. As an outsider to this world I felt I got a better understanding by seeing both sides, as they do not necessarily contradict each other.
In an extremely closed community like Satmar there could certainly be abuse of power and control on one hand and a strong sense of caring for each other and a striving for a morally good life according to their religious belief on the other. That's one of the paradoxes of human nature, too much of anything often comes at a cost.
I DONT SEE WHY DEBORAH F WOULD LIE. SHE LEFT THE COMMINITY FOR A REASON. SHE SOULD NOT LEAVE IF SHE WAS HAPPY. SOMETHING WAS WRONG. DEBORAH F, EXPERIENCE IN SATMAR MIGHT BE DOFFERENT FOR OTHERS. HOWEVER, SHE RAN FROM THEM.
This video is awesome and much needed. You have such an educated and clear perspective. Loved it
I absolutely understand your viewpoint (that the media portrays Orthodox Judaism particularly negatively) but I have been trying to do research on Judaism for two years now and it has been incredibly difficult to talk to Orthodox Jews so is it not plausible that for complete outsiders, the only impressions they get are either from people who've exited their orthodox communities, thus talking very negatively about it or from what they see on the streets? (Which might be interpreted as extreme and therefore bad)
I agree with you that it sucks for the community and their reputation to be portrayed so negatively but maybe it is just (and I must admit, this situation has been improving vastly thanks to UA-cam and people like you or @Chusidel) the lack of knowledge on the orthodox way to life that makes you an easy victim of misunderstandings?
I am really grateful for people like you and for the contents you share online and I am certain that media representation will improve for your community and until then, I, as a non-orthodox Jew, will continue to do my part in spreading more than just the negatives about Jewish life:)
You are absolutely correct. For people who have no way to be exposed to mainstream Orthodoxy, it can be really hard to know that there is more to religious Judaism than this show. That is one of the main reasons why I wanted to share this channel-- to show my life as a religious Jew in secular college, and show that there are so many faces and facets to Orthodoxy! Thank you for watching and for commenting!
Very nice love the quality
Great movie review. I'm a Christian Protestant from London UK who'd like to convert to Haredi Judaism. ✡️
Are you nuts.
@@lazarchill8514 why are you saying that?
The main character was so confusing. It was as though she hadn’t grown up in the community, it was almost like she was meant to be a stand in for the secular viewer who was constantly shocked by things like shidduch dating, hair shaving, etc. that would just be treated as normal in the Satmar world. Her reactions to things seemed like that of someone born yesterday, or having just gotten to the community. It was so weird to me. I also hated the head shaving scene. I couldn’t stand the Holocaust imagery there, and it was again a time where it seemed like she was so shocked at the hair shaving as though she didn’t know it was going to be happening, which obviously a Satmar bride would expect and maybe it would be sad, but she would know what was happening and why, it would be normal. My rebbitzin for example doesn’t shave her hair, as she is Chabad not Satmar, but she has it cut short so her sheitel fits better, and cause it’s easier to take care of, and it’s not a big deal, it’s just normal.
Yes!! I had not thought about it that way at all but you are 1000% correct. I'm sure that women in the Satmar community know it's a thing to shave their heads!
@@hannahsimone7373 Loved your video. I think the biggest issue is that the movie isn't called "Un-Hasidic" it's called "Unorthodox." Obviously a double-entendre; Esty is an 'unorthodox' person and 'Orthodox' is a branch of Judaism. Cute turn of phrase. The issue of course is that making that turn of phrase almost guarantees that a non-Jew watching will confuse Orthodox Judaism with the Satmar practices. That couldn't have been unintentional, and it's sad that so many Orthodox people are now having to do damage control.
@@AF-tv6uf yes, totally. Very well said and that distinction is so important and the reason why the show was hurtful to many. People who do not know this difference will get a false impression of religious Judaism
@@hannahsimone7373 Yes! In the book, the memoirist ( Deborah Feldman) knew her head would be shaved and she was quite matter-of-fact about the event when it happened. The book explained the practices, history, and beliefs of the Satmar community very well ( at least I thought so, coming to this topic with little prior knowledge about that community.) The TV show was ridiculous. It is too bad it was even made, but hopefully some who learn of Deborah Feldman's story through the Netflix show will watch with a critical mind and then read the book on which it is based.
I’ve watched Unorthodox in its entirety. I’m not Jewish but I was born, raised and still live in the Lower East Side of New York City. When I was growing up, we had a large modern Orthodox Jewish community in our neighborhood; although this community has been decreasing in recent years; as many modern Orthodox Jews seem to have moved out of the neighborhood, I don’t know where to. From my understanding, the biggest communities of Jews in America, or at least here in New York are 1) secular Jews, such as Jerry Seinfeld, who are people that identify as Jewish mainly through cultural heritage, celebrate the more-well-known Jewish holidays such as Hanukkah and Passover, but do not believe in the religion at all; or at least very little. The ones who do go to temple tend to go to a more “modern” temple, and many do not go to temple every single week or holiday. 2) Modern Orthodox Jews, such as Ben Shapiro, who live as modernly as most Americans, in ways such as having smartphones and social media, speaking English both in public and at home, women are allowed to be rabbis in some cases, etc, but they tend to keep more of the conservative aspects of Jewish religion and culture, ie men might wear yarmulkes and payos, and women may wear long skirts, they believe more in the religion, are observant of Shabbos, eat Kosher, etc. I believe there is a significant modern orthodox Jewish community in Staten Island. 3) Ultra Orthodox/Hasidic Jews, such as Deborah Feldman pre-Berlin. In New York City, almost all Ultra Orthodox Jews live in Brooklyn, with large concentrations in South Williamsburg, Crown Heights and Borough Park. I believe there is also a town in upstate NY called Kiryas Joel which has a majority Ultra Orthodox Jewish population. The most strict, conservative, and religious Ultra Orthodox Jews, however, at least from what I’ve heard, are the Satmar Jews in South Williamsburg, Brooklyn. These are Jews, from my understanding, who believe in and practice every earliest aspect of the Ashkenazi Jewish religious and cultural beliefs. They teach each other not to trust outsiders, and speaking or learning English is forbidden (they speak Yiddish; Hebrew only in religious instances such as synagogue). Men wear long coats and shreimels; women are covered from almost head to toe and once married cannot have or show any natural hair. No television or internet. Especially for women. Only house phones and flip phones are allowed. By the standards of the majority American culture, the women in this community have little to no rights. However, I understand some Ultra Orthodox women may be happy and okay with their lifestyle. Some, but not all (case in point, Deborah Feldman and other women who have “escaped” the community). I believe the Rabbi who founded the Satmar sect took all of the Jewish laws he grew up with and after the war he made some “extreme” interpretations of these laws that he taught his followers to practice.
Many “orthodox” Jews who have reviewed Unorthodox appear to be Modern Orthodox. As a native New Yorker who grew up in a city with a large Jewish diaspora, I know for a fact that any person, especially a woman, who is a member of the Ultra Orthodox Jewish community by choice would not have access to UA-cam.
My question for you, and this is not meant in a challenging or aggressive way, but rather just out of genuine curiosity is what type of a Jew do you consider yourself? Secular or Orthodox? If Orthodox, modern or Ultra? If modern, do you have any proof of or insight to how the Ultra Orthodox Community lives? I have some friends who were raised and still identify as modern orthodox Jewish, and they told me that they have almost no clue how the Ultra Orthodox/Hasidic community lives. They described the Hasidic Jews as a very private, secretive, isolated and closed off community. Few outsiders, Jewish or non-Jewish, Orthodox or Secular. seem to have a clue how Hasidic Jews live.
Curious as to what your thoughts are on this.
God bless and have an amazing day 😊
I worked in a community exactly like the movie. In Brasil. São Paulo
Thank you I had my doubts very explicit.
Well done!
I really liked how you stressed that you're not Satmar and this video's aim is to simply broaden knowledge about judaism in general, without belittling the experiences of others. I know that religion can be a right path for someone, but we should acknowledge that some people are oppressed by it. Overall, a great watch, thank you!
Thank you for the lovely and respectful comment!
I'm not sure why they added the Berlin portion in there seen as it never happened. Plus that's when it gets weird, she applies for the Harry Potter like school with the ensemble of quirky characters to get her through her time there. The series itself felt unfinished but they should probably leave it where it stands. Like most Netflix shows it starts off quite promising then suddenly nosedives.
You’re a very nice young lady but in regards to Satmer you are very mistaken. I agree that Judaism gets a bad rap but all the rules that actually you highlighted are actual part of their belief system. In regards to learning Gemara in regards to Nida in regards to shaving the hair for Tznius in regards to the first mitzvah in the Torah
Thanks for your nice video! I loved watching, but at min 9:42 couldn't keep watching anymore. Your comments are only true in theory or in the non chasidish community. So far every single example you gave is pretty realistic and common in the chasidish community. It is the absolute norm. ..my Kalla teacher taught me exactly the same including keep on ur clothing... the sex scene is was unfortunately very very real (in chasidic sect). We need to remember this movie is about ultra chassidic , not the mainstream. You keep saying this is not true in jewdaism or in the mainstream. But it is veru very real abd true in ultra chassidic communities (lubavitch not included!!!)
Dude do you know the difference between orthodox and ultraorthodox? It seems that's is the point you were missing in the video. U are orthodox. And Esti was ultraorthodox.
You are right that there is a difference between "orthodox" and "ultra orthodox" but not everyone understands the nuance, therefor I just referred to Orthodox Judaism. This video was meant to be somewhat of a damage control for people who have never had any exposure to the Orthodox world outside of the show "Unorthodox."
@@hannahsimone7373 Netflix is going to do a show on Islam........ Boom. Yeah not going to happen that Islam phobic.
My boyfriend is a former yeshiva boy who is now an atheist! He's very intelligent and tried hard to hold on to his culture, but he couldn't get past the flaws in logic... The problem is all the damage in not obtaining proper education, not to mention the psychological damage of being forced to be someone who doesn't align with your own values and beliefs.
Control is not harmless, and I know you're just a young woman, but there are many Hasidish communities that are just as cultish as the show.
I would never want to diminish or invalidate anyone's experiences or reality. Orthodoxy is not perfect and I know that there are people who have negative experiences, but that does not speak for all of Judaism. I heard someone say "don't judge Judaism by the Jews." while I wish this were not the case it unfortunately can be true. I am a strong believer in that everyone needs to do what is right for them and everyone needs to choose Judaism for themselves, how every that may look like. For me, I did not grow up religious (my parents are both from the former USSR if that gives you any idea) and chose it in high school. I do not feel controlled at all but very empowered. Again, I know not everyone has positive experiences but I would not go so far as to label orthodox Judaism a cult.
@@hannahsimone7373 I appreciate your nice reply. I think I understand your perspective, and the issue I quite disagree with is the whole idea of an Orhtodox form of religion... The rigidity required to maintain the religion has to become one of the most difficult things to accomplish day-to-day. To me it's just such a waste of talent and brain space! (You won't agree I know) Look at Israeli tech though.. Amazing! What if the yeshivas and seminaries were less purity focused and more individual talent focused? I think it would just be amazing!
Orthodox is inherently unhealthy because it takes up too much of your life and doesn't allow for you to be who you really are. You're always guided along a line, within a religious parameter, pretending to be an individual thinker. Again, I know you won't agree but thanks if you read it anyway.
Bigger problem how can you grow up in The US and not speak English but ONLY Yiddish!
It's entirely possible lol. Lots of hasidic jews in brooklyn have heavy yiddish accents bc it's learned as a 2nd language
@@loupgarou95 I know. But parallel societies aren't good!
@@fjellyo3261 ah, I see lol
So much garbage on Netflix.