LOST WAS WEIRD: A Deep Dive Into the Universe | Billiam
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Nothing complicated LOST quite like Time Travel. In this video, we analyze LOST's deep dive into Time Travel and explore the deepest corners of LOST's universe, from Alternate-Reality-Games to Tie-In-Novels, it's a wild ride.
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00:00- INTRO
LOST: The Time Travel Season Pt. 1
06:42 - SEASON 5: REMIX
28:56 - FLASHING IN TIME
01:02:06 - GOING BACK: LOST & PHILOSOPHY
LOST: The Expanded Universe
02:05:18- LOST: The Official Novelizations
02:18:19- LOST ONLINE: ALLITERATE REALITY GAMES
02:59:02- LOST Mobisodes
03:11:29- LOST: The Game
LOST: The Time Travel Season Pt. 2
03:35:13 - Dharmaville Pt. 1 The Return
04:14:41 - Dharmaville Pt. 2 Its all The Same
04:41:07- Dharmaville Pt. 3 Catastrophe
05:32:21 - The Blast Door Map
05:43:14- The Incident (Season 5 Finale)
Looking ahead
06:27:02- Conclusion - Розваги
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HEY! I'm aware of the audio sync issues that occur for 10 minutes around the 1 hour and 22 minute mark- it only lasts for 10 minutes, and unfortunately I am unable to edit it without delaying the video another week- so we have to keep it
WHOAAAAA!!!!!!!!
вау, я уже говорю на новом языке!
Video starts to desync hard around the 1h15m mark.
Grassyass
@HeftyOwl noticed that too, glad it's not just me
“Jack Shepherd is part of my nightmare blunt rotation” is a savagely perfect description of the character
I think I actually might want him in mine but only if your shmockin some super dank and you can get him all paranoid and uncomfortable
I'd do it but trick him and pick therapists as the rest. roping him into doing group therapy.
Jack Shepherd: not even once
Time stamp please
@@zacherybutter7349 3:49:50
Love the vibes of sawyer, juliet and kate being like ‘it’s been 3 years and we’ve all grown as people’ and jack being like ‘????? self-growth????? i’ve literally never heard of that????’
Because he should not leave island
Hurley throwing the Hot Pocket at Ben will always be the iconic Lost moment for me. I remember rewinding that scene over and over to watch Ben stand there in confusion as the Hot Pocket slaps against the wall…truly beautiful.
As a man who still panic flails at the sight of any spider beyond a certain size, it always felt incredibly natural. Great scene
I remember watching it live with my family 😂
why is there a dead pakistani on my couch
And how about The death of Daniel never made much sense to me. His behavior was so out of character. IMO it shows that the show runners didn't really know what to do with him anymore.
I was so glad billy included it, I was worried he'd gloss over it and it's easily my favorite moment
There's a fun parallel I don't think the show ever really drew attention to: Ditzy goofball Hurley is the one who had his shit together arguably moreso than anyone, while rugged survivalist Locke, who was always going on about greater purpose and dispensing sage wisdom to anyone who asked... very much did not.
Definitely. Especially so when considering how both ascended to their leadership roles. Locke even said it to Jack himself in s1e5 (White Rabbit) that “A leader can’t lead til he knows where he’s going,” yet Locke hardly ever knew where he was going. Yet Hugo, someone who went so long with people not believing in him, including himself, ends up in the most powerful position of leadership by the end of the series and, to no surprise, is the best person for the job.
obsessed with john locke the character getting to keep his name while john locke the philosopher doesnt 💀
see also: lost the tv show gets to keep its name while lost the past tense doesn’t
it really seems like John Thought losened his original last name
He becomes John Lost when he is actually the smoke monster
every time this series is updated I tell myself: "no. today I will not spend 6+ consecutive hours crafting and listening to Billiam's LOST deep dive" and every time I get to the 5+ hour mark and I realize: ADHD is a hell of a thing.
Going to be listening to it all day at work
It’s my favorite way to ignore my coworkers and get some work done. 😂
Literally same.
I didn't even realize this video was more than 2 hours long until i was halfway through bc i clicked on it so fast XD
same
Ben Linus telling Kate that Aaron isn't her child is so funny considering he stole a baby from someone and raised her as his own and actively tried to keep them from ever meeting again and directly caused the death of said child.
its almost like hes projecting and thats the point of it is that Ben is a hypocrite
This is just so well-written and well-researched. This series is a masterpiece, and I mean that literally.
Thank you!!
I second that wholeheartedly! This is absolute brilliance what @billiam has managed to create. It's funny, it's smart, it's well edited, it's well-researched... it's like an art and pop culture history art piece/piece of pop culture. In a tech and cultural landscape where TikTok videos are shortening everybody's attention spans and Short form content is the norm, to be able to do a series of long-form content and keep people's attention and interest growing says everything about a Creator's skill and dedication to their craft. It's genuinely mind boggling.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK
Back to the past
Samurai Jack!
It's a playable arpg I'd go back.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK
How is it. Your near the end.
I do love the clever time travel stories that actually weave the whole "you ALREADY did the thing you were going to do" angle. It can be really hard, but when it lands, it's brilliant.
It’s very true to human nature too. We love our cycles.
Billiam is making himself a strong contender for the internet's best retrospectives
I can't think of a more in depth retrospective than this one.
@@LaddRusso91watch Quinton Reviews
It's him and Quinton reviews on top, then everyone else.
Pyrocinical's utopia retrospective is a strong competitor
@@namepending3795too bad Pyro is trash like how do you get to Billiam from PYRO lol
How in the *hell* does one make a 6.5 hour long video so interesting and entertaining - while still leaving a feeling of wanting more by the end??
Good storytelling is a tale as old as time.
thats lost babey
So... Their strategy to avoid audiences noping out of mass time travel was to distract them with abs? I kinda respect that. Good use of the medium.
If you want to convince people to give genre media a chance, you've gotta give them an incentive to keep watching.
Marvel literally made comic books heroes mainstream just by pumping their movies full of eye candy.
RIP Scott. Poor guy jumped out of the raft when the white light hit thinking he saw Steve alive in the ocean and could rescue him. The only one that saw him jump in was Frogurt who said nothing.
This made me LOL so hard!!!! thanks for making me laugh!
You mean Steve. Ethan killed Scott.
Dude that was Steve
I'm beginning to consider this retrospective an essential part of a full Lost watch-through. Extremely well done.
I personally find it extremely satisfying to hear someone interpret the show in a way that both challenges some of my own conceptions about it while at the same time putting a lot of my own thoughts and ideas into words.
Talking about all the references in the show, Lost made me read Slaughterhouse 5, by Kurt Vonnegut. In the episode where Michael tries to kill himself in his car, hes sitting at home beforehand watching Jeopardy or Wheel of fortune, and on the tv, you hear a contestant call out Slaughterhouse 5.
For those that dont know, slaughterhouse 5 is a surreal world war 2 fiction about a man who gets abducted by aliens, but 1 singular page references an alien whose only purpose, and sole reason for existing, is to push a button. If he doesnt push the button continuously forever, the entire universe ceases to exist/instantly comes to an end.
Fucking crazy literary reference to throw in a 3 second scene of somebody watching tv. This show is truly amazing.
I actually have never read slaughterhouse 5! I know they use the phrase “unstuck in time”-I was going to read it for the video, but I ended up reading Cat’s Cradle by Vonnegut instead- needless to say I’m excited to get to it!
Ever since your last Lost video I watched the entire series for the first time and it was fantastic!!!! I literally have no idea how people didn't get the ending.
How fast did you watch it?
Because I've noticed speculation and expectations rise when shows are/were week to week.
Which can change how people perceive shows they watch.
@@CrocvsGatorI think this may be why engaging with the ARG maintained my interest and kept my expectations reasonable between seasons. I felt like I already was getting hidden secrets. I didn’t need to go hog wild.
@@CrocvsGatoridk how people could bingewatch Lost. I could watch 2 maybe 3 episodes and take a break because of the annoying cliffhangers lol.
@@John-Doe-Yoits not really a cliffhanger when youre about to watch the next episode is it? I guess if you force yourself to wait for the next episode it would be but why would you😂
@@stephenelder3162but not every show HAS to end almost every episode with a cliffhanger
I am a massive Lost fanboy so I clicked on this video without thinking or noticing how long it was and became lost in time myself.
You became losened ✨️
losened^
The concept of using fanservice to distract the audience from how confused they are is unbelievably funny.
The inclusion of the literary and philosophic references in this video is so funny to me. I was in ninth grade during the height of Lost-mania and my English teacher that year was a huge fan - my first exposure to the show was her showing us various clips from the show and teaching us about the intertexual references found within.
That sounds like a great way to get students involved in things they might otherwise have a hard time getting into
honestly, the really wacky audio desynching around 1:33:30 (?) really just intensifies the feeling of panic and desperation. i know it's not intentional, but having these scenes intercut such that the visuals are distinct and separated but all the audio is crashing together and overlapping itself gives the impression of time travel, of everything happening at different times but still all at once, and it feels appropriately stressful. dammit, the billiam crew is so good at making videos that even the mistakes are kind of genius lmao
fr tho this is one of my favorite video series' on this website and i'm SO glad it's continuing! i always thought lost must be a bad tv show because the only thing anyone else ever says about it online is "gee that show was confusing and had shit payoff" so i'm very pleased to be corrected on that
The audio for Billiam's parts is off starting around an hour-ish, with the show audio being fine until that point. I thought something was wrong with my TV until I pulled out my phone and had the exact same audio experience!
I don’t find it charming AT ALL. PLEASE FIX IT
Watching it rn, does the desync stop at some point or is it like that for the rest of the video?@@laurendisney
@@blackhomard0 It gets fixed yes
Billiam would do an incredible video on The X-Files or Heroes, but he's done too much for us already. You don't have to go back Billy. Go rest with Hurley and Vincent ❤️
The only person I’d believe would give heroes justice
What was Heroes about, anyway?
Basically the xmen but without the rest of the marvel universe... I loved the first 2 seasons as a kid but it went abit (alot) downhill
Bryan Fuller was the showrunner for Season 1 and Season 3.5 of Heroes (the 1.5 seasons that most people like) but he left the show twice- first to make Pushing Daisies and the second time to make Hannibal.
I would kill for him to do an Xfiles and Heroes retrospective. That would be so rad
I googled Horace’s actor after you said “married a 16 year old” and was absolutely floored to realize he’s the guy that married Courtney Stodden when he was 51 and they were 16
Wait he’s THAT guy? Horrifying
@@Birdyboys the very same. I’d never have realized if he didn’t make that comment because I never retained the guy’s name and he looks really different in the Horace costume compared how he looks in all his pics with Courtney
This is love
This is
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Love
Jealous much?
@@_zigger_Do we need to check your hard drive?
Billiam, my therapist wants me to thank you for posting literally enough content to get my Autistic ADHD ass through my work day. Long form videos are the only way I can do anything and not be distracted. Youre a SAVIOR.
I am so happy that you decided to tackle each of the last three seasons individually and dedicate one video to each of them, rather than smashing them into a massive video (your original intention). I can't wait to take the plunge and dedicate some serious time to this.
@@sleambeanNah, just season 5
@@sleambean no
@@sleambeanone of the first things he talks about is that he has another video after this one...
Billiam, I wanna tell you that there’s a whole layer of Planet Of The Apes references within season 5… and they only reinforce the time travel, Destiny and nuclear destruction elements even more
Could you elaborate on this? Or is there somewhere I can read about it?
@@SigmaBenLinus
well…
The whole nuke / time travel conceit was born in those original TPOTA movies from
The 60s/70s. 1st instance of a time paradox / nuclear holocaust combo in pop culture that I know of. Safe to say Darlton and JJA et al must’ve seen these as kids and been deeply impressed.
The Jughead comes right out of the subway nuke in Beneath, that’s made clear in so many ways if you know how to look for the clues. Conceptually, this is really ‘the bomb’, something that deserves its own separate essay.
Also, the Others-Dharma conflict has a slew of visual elements from Apes v Humans. E.g. the Others campaign on horseback, using bolos, nets etc just like the apes did.
Whole question of who is superior, more advanced, the hypocrisy within each group draws heavily from TPOTA.
Sawyer without a shirt is Taylor (Chuck Heston) without a shirt in mthe 1st & 2nd movies.
on and on…
The outright quality of this deep dive series is a credit to all of the team who produced it, this is what UA-cam as a medium can be when done right
This tv series is truly one of the greatest, yet underrated of all time. It’s my favourite show, and I feel a strange gratitude to the Billiam team for shining such a glowing light on it so that those too young to have watched it first time around, or those who were put off by the Lost nay-sayers might get to watch and experience its beauty
I’ve loved watching this retrospective and I can’t wait for the final season. Thank you Billiam
"I'm the theatre teacher from Victorious!" Great pull!! Thank you for these videos Billiam! I was so looking forward to this drop. WELL DONE!!
I'm still reeling from realising that Rousseau is the Minbari ambassador.
@@Salsmachev WAIT. ALEX IS DELENN? Oh I gotta tell my mom, she loves both the shows and I don’t think she knows!!!
@@chelscara Yeah threw me for a loop! I even watched both shows around the same time at one point and just never noticed
For about 7 years I had no cable TV and no internet. All I had for entertainment was my Xbox, again, no internet, and a handful of DVDs. Of those I had the Lost complete series box sets. I shit you not, I watched the series, in total, probably a hundred times. It was always playing in my home, for SEVEN YEARS! I could probably recite the entire dialog from memory.
Hurley describing the plot-up-til-now like that is wild AF lol. Like, just that he even felt that he could describe it is mindboggling, the fact he actually kinda does could have actually killed me, but i've become very powerful. Rly, try me. Srsly tho, i woulda just lost it a some point and the levels of detail would have turned into a video essay series longer than this one.
Fun fact: I got to hang out with Ben at his wife's stage reading of her play in NYC. Ironically, she played his Mother on the show. I got to spend significant time with the Actor. The man has the softest hands ever. Like pillows :) I also got to meet Sayid (Naveen Andrews) at his Bollywood movie premiere. All this was during the airing of the show. It was also amazing attending the producers interviews, and the LOST museum in NYC. What an AMAZING time!
It hurts me that your channel, this series especially, is not getting the attention it deserves. I've been playing this video while playing games and keep having to go back and rewind so i can actually pay attention because I've gotten so invested in not only Lost as a whole, but just how eloquently you describe everything. I truly love your perspective on all of this, thank you for making videos, please keep going
Ah, the algorithm will surely bless this series soon, and Billiam & team will enjoy the fruits of their labor
In the meantime, continue liking/commenting/sharing/etc 😍
Billiam, I haven't lost the game in years since no one around me knew what the hell that was or at least never mentioned it. Thanks for breaking my 5ish year streak.
I didn't even know there are Lost video games haha 🌈
I’ve got a sister who is an asshole and perpetually stuck in the 90s. I lose the game every couple of months.
I singlehandedly blame this man for fucking up the "lose" verb in my head. I legitimately can't use it right anymore, I have officially losened my mind and I don't think I can go back
Firstly: this series is brilliant
Secondly: little tidbit, the head of Jeremy Bentham was botched because midway through the embalming process it was stolen by students of another university who believed they deserved it more! It was held in their basement and not returned to UCL for years 😃
Why anyone felt his embalmed head would be useful in any way is the real mystery...
LOL that entire section I could hear Caitlyn from Ask a Mortician's "Bantham's head" jingle in my head on every mention of the last name.
No one fact check this, I want to believe
Vincent swimming after the raft in Exodus makes me cry every dang time.
BTW: the audio goes out of synch at 1:22:38 but it goes back to synch at 1:34:22.
Thanks for pointing it out! Unfortunately because of the copyright issues, it would take an entire week to reupload it! So if y'all could just listen to it in the background for 10 minutes that'd be great!
thank you for this! not a problem now knowing its not my laptop haha
@@billiamhonestly, it adds to the ambiance. Fucking chilling
Forgor to add:
Thanks for the video, you made me finish this silly island show that I dropped this season for the "Time traveling nonsene". Now you made me appreciate it.
@@billiamhow does your Premiere handle a 6h video? Mine starts acting up up around 2hours or so and I get bugs like those mentioned
I've come to know so much about Lost because of you without watching the show, just because of your great storytelling.
"Jack Sheppard is my nightmare blunt rotation" omfg I cackled while at work because it's so true
The John Locke cosplay bit genuinely made me cry with laughter thank you so much.
Also the love and care you are putting into these deep dives makes my heart sing. I’ve been a Lost lover for so long and have felt so alone as a fan as anyone I try to recommend it to just laughs at me, and seeing your passion, and everyone in the comments love for this crazy beautiful show just makes me feel all 💖💖
As a child there is nothing I long more for than a 21 hour shift in the cobalt mine. Thank you Mr. John Thought.
I watched the entire series of Lost for one reason, I saw Vincent in the first episode and had an intense NEED to see if he ended up ok by the end of the series.
True story.
A lot of the arg is cringy by today's standards, but I'm kinda mad we will never have show that cares this much about bringing their audience in to their world.
I enjoy the unspoken acknowledgment of the hilariously melodramatic previews you've been showing throughout each part. They take a series that actually isn't that soap opera-ish (sure, it is at parts, but not to a crazy degree) and turn it up to 11 with the SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY wrestling-ass VO guy booming over all those out of context clips from the show. Every single episode preview becomes the most insanely overwrought schlock in the world. If I had seen these back in the day without context, it would have seriously colored my view of the show itself. It literally seems like a parody of this type of show, at times. No wonder it provoked so many memes back in the day. But It clearly worked, and played no small part in the final product being what it is.
I've seen less than one LOST episode irl, but I could listen to you talk about it all day. and I do
The depth that you go into with your analysis is absolutely unparalleled, who else would go out and get a degree from *the* Lost University for their UA-cam video essays? No one, that's who, only Billiam would.
2:29 "Leaving season 5 of the show....to take the hardest psychedelic turn the show does. A permanent KEY CHANGE in a long progressive rock song."
Beautiful metaphor but "TIME SIGNATURE change" would have been so perfect here I had to say something! Love the video!
My girlfriend and I began watching LOST together last year and we had finished a few months ago.
I have seen it multiple times and loved it but I was worried she would not like the sci-fi direction the show took.
I could see her getting attached to the characters and absolutely loving Sun and Jin’s relationship.
Overall, it was a great experience and the ending was just perfect. First time watching it and she completely understood what was going on. I think the people who are left confused or upset at the ending didn’t really watch the show regularly and just tuned in to see how it ended.
One of my fav things about this series is the fact that its become a beast of which billiam cant control and can barely contain. Love all your vids bro.
i've entered a metatextual relationship with Billiam's LOST series similar to the one i entered with LOST while it was airing. it represents an era of my life and has seen me through personal challenges. i don't want it to end but i know it has to. i need to let go
@@ACougarSwagnum idk what that has to do with my thing but go off I guess
This isn't just the best Lost content I've seen, since is one of the best retrospectives I've seen in general. The way you capture the atmosphere of the media buzz at the time the show was airing is incredible, and the level of research you've done is crazy. A monumental achievement
BILLIAM ITS ME, A FAN FROM THE FUTURE, THE ISLAND HAS SENT ME BACK TO TELL YOU AN UNFORTUNATE THING ABOUT STEPHEN HAWKING THAT JUST BECAME NEWS!!
As much effort each of these take, this series deserves a damn reward or something 🙌🏾
'Please Like, Share and Subscribe and Hit the Notification Bell' is the only UA-cam reward!
So glad it’s finally here! I’ll edit whenever I finish this beast. But thank you for making this series and honoring the hard work of everyone involved. Including you and your crew. Enjoy a break man.
Edit: WE HAVE TO GO BACK!!!
Plot twist, this isn't Billiam's final video of LOST
No break yet buddy, he's still got one more video to go, this is only season 5 lol.
@@GEMINIEARTHWALKERstill fits lol
@@drakenfisttrue. But still mental health is important yk, still praise for this series
My dad just died after a 4 year battle with colon cancer. Thankfully my aunt sensed it this morning and let us know to come see him so we were able to tell him we loved him one last time. Anyways thank you for giving me something to smile at today Billiam.
I hope you’re able to grieve with those you love while still finding the joy in the little things that have happened and are yet to come.
Having picked Lost up after watching your other videos on them, I gotta say the biggest fan criticism of the show I have a problem with is anyone who says Sawyer and Kate should have been together and that the Sawyer and Juliet pairing made no sense. Sawyer deserved better than Kate, he always did, but as the two biggest idiots on the island Kate and Jack were perfect for each other.
I support this with my entire being ❤
Absolutely, I feel like people just loved Sawyer so much they wanted him to "get the main girl" over a more side character
Sawyer and Juliet were perfect for each other, but let's not pretend Jack *or* Sawyer were good for Kate. Jack treated her like shit, and Kate's female relationships were always super solid in contrast. Those were the ones she didn't feel a need to run away from. I think it's telling that her "awakening" moment in limbo was helping Claire deliver Aaron. Being co-moms with Claire was her best ending.
@@vanyadollylol you must be joking. How exactly did Jack treat Kate like sh*t? This l gotta hear 😂
Sawyer is just more likeable than Kate and jack, still a horrible person like they are. What he is doing with Juliet is incredibly morbid, and is ultimately just him running away from his problems with another con. On top of that he is willing to sacrifice everyone from his past life to keep playing pretend and ignoring everyone in dharma is going to die.
Lost was the tv show that got me into tv shows.
Watched it as it aired from Sep 22nd 2004 to May 23rd 2010.
Not without it's flaws, but i think network tv has never recovered, it's still trying to grasp it's ambition and raw emotion. The binge show before binging was popularized.
Also. Lost, The Leftovers, Watchmen, Mrs Davis. Lindelof doesn't do bad finales 😉
lost actually brought me back to tv after more than a decade of zero tv watching. (I was a child tv addict in the 70s). I watched a few of the other big tv series after Lost and now I’m sorta back to zero tv again
The Leftovers is EPIC
I have to say while most of the time i just let retrospectives like this play in the background, and dont stress when i miss large sections of them. You are the only creator to make a 6 hour video that i actively want to absorb every minute of it. Geanted that means its taking me much longer to finish it but i am supremely enjoying the ride
Hi all, university archivist here, there are way more mummies in university basements as part of botched mummifications than people think. Enjoy knowing that!
The novels made me realize, there's a lot of OC potential with the other survivors of the plane crash. You don't even have to adapt one of the background characters that are shown, you can just make your own.
i choose to believe steve did actually make it off the island, just days/weeks after the others. i mean you hear the story from the news and maybe you’re approached by some shady guys telling you not to say where you’ve been and probably offering you a considerable amount of money, you’d probably just slink off into the background again too. steve is living his life in fiji right now.
Here’s hoping this grand finale of the lost Retrospective is better received than how the actual Lost finale turned out.
wdym
@@kuhpunkt People weren’t particularly fond of how lost ended
@@ratchetxtreme6591 8.3/10 on imdb is pretty damn good for example.
They added pretty interesting lore What the heck with the romans and other mom, The man in black., personally that made it unsatisfying. They never explained what the heck is in the island. or how it can be turned off and its fine.@@ratchetxtreme6591
@@ratchetxtreme6591”people” I think you’re referring to a vocal minority rather than how most people felt
this philosophy section just adding a new layer to Desmond being the coolest Lost character
Your deep dives in to this show really help reinforce my love for it while giving me a deeper appreciation. My partner has never seen the show, we’re right at the end of Sopranos and looking for something new….. I think this is it! Thanks to you and your crew for the time you’ve dedicated. The research/ filming time/ editing must be insane.
Gets to the end of the 06:38:30 long video.
"We're gonna need to watch that again"
Daniel's realization that he needs to try is quite interesting. He views the entire thing as deterministic until he starts finding these little breadcrumbs that a future him would have a different outlook. Ultimately he finds out that he told the redhead to leave the island and never come back. The kind of thing that the current him wouldn't even consider bothering to do.
So what we were seeing as the characters started to bleed from the nose and ultimately dying is their body trying to reconsile the paradox of their existence.
The last scene of her life. The scene where she reveals that daniel talked to her as a child. In a sense Daniel KILLED her by telling her to leave. By telling her to leave, he set up a paradox where she remembered him and didn't remember him. She's stuck in one body though and the brain ultimately strokes out.
If he didn't tell her to leave, she might not have died. (she still might have, the characters basically assume it boils down to "time on the island"). And if she didn't die, he wouldn't have had the justification to see himself beg her to leave as a child, as by that point he had lost a lot of himself to his cover as a Dharma Mechanic. The aged, jaded, and sad Daniel, begs the confused child to leave and never come back, and in the future, that realization kills her as an adult, and Daniel sees the whole thing.
So Daniel realizes he's bootstrapped himself into a new existence because he got to that point and realized that his actions in the past CAN have great rammifications on the actions of the future, He's living proof of it. He knows as he tells her to leave that he's following his own footsteps knowingly, but in that moment he has free will. He could NOT tell her. But the Present Daniel and the Past Daniel that the dying woman remembers are the same. They have to try to save her, and in doing so, kill her.
But Daniel knows that in that moment he could have not told her. He chose to tell her. Again. Because he wanted to. Because he believed that this time, with this foreknowledge, it might work. And then when he's killed by his own mother, it assures him that he's right, because he knew that she was a genius and wouldn't forget something as important as killing her own son. So he knew she raised him knowing full and well that she would one day send him on a mission that would send back in time, knowing that she would kill him in her past, because she remembered doing it.
...... I too can talk at length about lost.
Lost, The Terminator (1984), and Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban are my favorite uses of time travel in fiction. I've always loved the idea that if someone can go back in time, whatever they did back then results in the same exact present the person that went back in time trying to change. If you go back in time to kill your parents, not only can you not succeed, you could be part of the events that lead to your parents meeting in the first place.
It's the most elegant time travel theory. I don't mind others but it seems 90% of time travel fiction either has no rules or breaks its own rules. Predestination (2014) is *pretty* solid rules-wise check that out if you haven't seen it.
> Thinking Harry Potter did good timetravel
Rough
It's the Novikov's self-consistency principle. Although I usually don't like when stories rely on determinism/fatalism, and this principle kinda invokes them, it's always been my favorite time travel mechanism in fiction!
Me, around 5 hours in: "(nodding) uh-huh. I get it."
My brain: I have been watching every moment of this retrospective series but I no longer have any idea what's going on.
Aw hell yeah! The massive retrospective thats close to 20 hours combined about a show I never watched is concluding!
Concluding?. Nope!. He's still got another video to make.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, BILLIAM & TEAM!!!
Seriously. Rewatching y'alls first 3 Lost deep dives have gotten me through some rougher times the past couple of years. Really, really appreciate everyone's hard work 💜
I have begun the 6 hour video journey. I fucking love the ultra long lost videos!
Edit: around the 1:00:00-1:30:00 mark the audio desyncs with your lips when you cut to you at the desk
I thought that was just my tablet messing up.
I hope he sees this.
He can't change it now, so 🤷
Loooove your dive into the metafiction and fandom/ephemera of lost this is fucking CRAAZZZYYY
i am genuinely so impressed by billiams ability to find more way to talk about lost for hours straight😭and well done at that, hOW
Man, what a series. Thanks for bringing me back to the island!
Wow! Thank you so much! It's been a pleasure to make this series
Watched this all in one sitting while drawing and this series continues to be banger after banger. I love the whole section on the ARGs, it was genuinely really cool to learn about how they brought those aspects into the real world and fans were so hype about it. Can't wait for the last video!
I distinctly remember my parents watching lost when I was younger and I had no clue what was happening on the tv. They had this action figure set of everyone finding the hatch and I wasn’t allowed to touch it but I wanted to play with it so bad. I miss the days of the family gathering around the tv after dinner to watch shows like Lost, amazing race, and even my name is earl. Thank you Billiam for posting these and bringing these memories back, I love listening to you talk about your hyper fixations for 6+ hours. 😂
okay so i watched the entirety of lost over november and december and it quickly became my favorite tv show of all time and i cannot tell you how excited i was when i saw that this video would be coming out soon
thank you billiam for feeding us, i use your lost videos for comfort when im trying to fall asleep. ive never seen the show but i now know everything that happens in it lmao
This video series is incredible. Bravo to every single person who has contributed to it so far.
Season 5 is, hands down, my favorite season. The time travel is so interesting and the character work is better than ever. I love everything the show does with the Lost Behinders. Charlotte & Daniel's fates are heartbreaking but the show makes up for that with the love story between Sawyer ❤ Juliet. Their arc this sesson was sooooo good and they easily became my favorite couple on the show.
One small correction 5:48:34 It was not the Holy Roman Empire that outlawed paganism, because HRE was created at the beginning of 9th century by Charlemagne and it later turned into Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation - the First Reich, it ruled over much of modern Germany (i.e. we later had the Hitler's Third Reich). Paganism in the ancient, original Roman Empire was gradually banned after 313 when for the first time Rome had a Christian emperor. So Roman Empire and Holy Roman Empire - two different things :) love the video, just wanted to add a tiny detail
Time to lose 12 hours refreshing my memory on the previous three videos, and spend 7 more in the fever dream that is this one.
By the time I'm done, I'll have watch now Billiam-talking-about-Lost than Lost itself.
as a long time fan of the show i wanna thank you for all the work you’ve put into this series, it’s absolutely fantastic ❤️
God, I love this series. Benjamin Linus was and still is one of the best characters in TV.
I remember catching part of this finale when I was younger. My parents were avid Lost fans and I casually enjoyed it as a child would. But the scene when they actually pierce the anomaly really really REALLY stuck with me. It's horrifying and cataclysmic but also so heart wrenching. Juliette's fate is one of the hardest deaths in the series.
As someone who gets exhausted by live-action serial dramas like Lost, thank you so much for this review saga.
I unironically believe that getting to vicariously enjoy the story and artistry and weird history of this series through your videos is more enjoyable than if I tried to binge the entire series myself devoid of context.
(Not to mention it's kinda nice to find out in the morning what I'm gonna be watching on and off for the entire rest of the day in the background.)
almost 7 hours? holy heck well there goes my youtube schedule for the next few days. Thank you for what will likely be another riveting overview of mid 2000s media.
I'm still working my way through the second part of this series but thank you for taking all this time to talk about lost. this kind of dedication is insane
I spam watch this series till i finish it completely.. since i play these to fall asleep its kinda like a tv show.. just rewind till you remember
That's exactly what I've been doing 😂 I've probably given him at least a dozen views at this point just getting through it the first time
The amount of work you have put into this series is unbelievable, and I will never be able to truly complement every great thing you’ve done here. But I just wanna know people like you are what keeps the fandom alive and growing. I appreciate all your hard work and love the passion you display for the show.
From one fan to another, these videos are a treat
A 6+ Hour Billiam video? Buckle up, no sleep tonight.
I absolutely love Billiam doing this. I’ve been watching these as they come out and it’s introduced me to lost. I was only aware of it as a thing that we didn’t watch and I was too small to care about. Now I’ve learned so much more and it’s entertaining
Well damn billiam now while I’m waiting for the next part I’ll go ahead and watch all your other videos. You’re a top tier video essayist for real. Really glad I came across your channel
I rewatched LOST a couple months ago with my wife who had never seen it. It quickly became her favorite show and I’m glad that it is getting more respect now than it did when it was airing. Truly an unbelievable show.
i know proofing a 6½ hour video cant b easy. started seeing some audio desync around 1:23:00 ish and some overlapping audio 1:43:12
ill edit comment if i notice anything else. tysm for the tasty video!
I thought it was my computer, glad i wasnt the only one who noticed😂😂
I though this was just me or some kind of intentional editing thing that would pay off later.
I love Sawyer so much. Was waiting for this season recap because of all his moments this season.
I can’t believe how much Jeff from the book looks like billiam
I've always thought that the death of Locke in this season was a huge mistake on the part of the writers. I feel like such a great character deserved to make it to the last season. he didnt deserve such a pathetic and sad ending.
Daniel Faraday was easily one of my favourite characters in the show. The ending of his story is so sad
The blast door map was probably the coolest pop culture moment of my childhood
I love Season 5 unabashedly. Recontextualizing characters we've grown to love over the curse of four seasons? And they do it brilliantly! Everyone is on their A-game here, we're finally getting LOADS of answers! LOVE IT!