Find the Führer: The Secret Soviet Investigation - Episode 2: The 'Eva Braun' Corpse
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2023
- The fate of Hitler is one of the most infamous subjects in history - but the investigation of the nation that was best placed to find out, the USSR, is often ignored or dismissed in the West. This series examines what the Soviets found, both at the bunker and Reich Chancellery, and also the medical examination of the purported bodies of Hitler and Eva Braun. Kept secret until 1968, the Soviet files reveal many strange anomalies that challenge the established story of the ultimate fates of Hitler and his wife.
In this episode, the strange medical anomalies on the body identified as Eva Braun.
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Sources:
'The Hitler Book', Edited by Henrik Eberle & Matthias Url, (John Murray: 2005)
'The Death of Hitler' by Jean-Christophe Brisard & Lana Parshina, (Hodder & Stoughton: 2018)
'Doppelgängers' by Hugh Thomas, (Fourth Estate: 1995)
'The Berlin Bunker' by James O'Donnell, (J.M. Dent: 1979)
Credits: US National Archives; Library of Congress; Bundesarchiv; Imperial War Museum; Maksym Kozlenko; Grot; Dnn-Dennis; Lacy Scott & Knight; KulturEin; BruceBlaurs; KDS4444; Journal of Forensic Sciences.
The best WWII channel. He does not do a dry narration of historical events but at the same time he does research and reveals unknown aspects of history.
For tale yeah absolutely...
Nah. Some of his videos are straight BS
Debatable
This video in particular must have required a great deal of research.
I get it, fans, he's dreamy.
It's fascinating how murky a period of history that is still (barely) in living memory is. Makes me realize how vague our understanding of earlier periods must be!
Barely is right. A late night comedy show took to the streets in 2016 asking college kids who they'd vote for instead of Trump. 9 out of 12 said Hitler
After thorough study over decades I have determined that the vast majority of the historical record is disinformation and propaganda 🤯 just like the daily news
Wow! I did Nazi that coming!@@TyDomi
@@TyDomithat’s because we are the most propagandized people in Human history.
They have a literal propaganda machine in everyones pocket. You either tow the line or lose your access to all social media.
It's often based heavily on few and biased sources. It's interesting when archeological evidence surfaces to prove some of those historical accounts accurate, like with Richard III.
As a medical doctor, I must once again not only admire your knowledge of History, good Doctor, but also your spelling and describing medical facts and infos. As a history lover/amateur, I once again salute you. Thank you.
And this has relevance to what?
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk and what value does your comment add?
The OP is expressing gratitude and being positive you absolute melt!
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk🤡
If you are a real "medical doctor" and the owner of this channel is some kind of "history expert" I guess that makes me an expert in next generation space travel and nuclear physics... 😮💨.
@@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMasteryou have something to say?
Those ante-mortem shrapnel injuries are very problematic. Along with the height discrepancy, the cyanide anomalies, and the dental questions, this casts very serious doubt on this identification!
Captivating video, Dr. Felton.
They were literally crumbling, its more than definetely their corpses, his dental records prove that.
He is dead. Sorry. My grandfather's were the American unit in there. Not in the pics. I have always found this obsession strange. These events are usually more banal than the Hollywood versions. The Soviets were their usual reserved selves, got in, did the job, took very little, and them left.
The Soviets letting him live would be the bigger mind job IMO.
And people forget about Nazi Doctrine, that if he would have lived, been considered a failure. They would have buried him anyways and started over. There wasn't any wiggle room left.
@@Nylon_riotPeople like sensationalism. Probably Eva Braun didn't just take cyanide before she died, she wanted to finish the job quickly by shooting herself in the heart because she was too uncomfortable to breathe. But witnesses did not realize this because of the dark color of her dress and the shock of the event. I have read in detail from American sources that many witnesses said that the bodies were cremated for hours (around 4 to 10 p.m.) A body cremated for such a long time, of course, does not stay the same size, it is against the laws of nature. And a lot of body evidence was burned with them, so it is normal to have some conflicting identifications.
If they hadn't committed suicide, they wouldn't have done something stupid like getting married before fleeing, they would have done it in a place where they would have been safer. If Hitler had not committed suicide, he would not have been stupid enough to leave his peaceful place in Berghoff and go to Berlin surrounded by Soviet soldiers.
Of course he's dead, born 1888. Pity about the stains on that lounge..nice tapestry.
Mrs Goebbels photographed well,...pretty face hiding 5 kinds of crazy..
Stalin promoted the conspiracy to keep the war and his land grab going. We all know America quickly wanted the pacific war over to stop Stalin's grab and when the war ended, the ussr and it's new empire was born.
I am not sure many people here understand the consequences of these findings. Very competent medical specialists are saying that the female corpse is not Evas. I'm looking forward to the next episode with even greater anticipation. Thanks, Professor.
I don't see how people could fail to comprehend the consequences. It's about all but spelled out. It's just not presented like super-hype blow your mind, evil dictator and his wife escaped. Which is great. Wish real tv would try the same approach.
The word “competent” and “Soviet” have never been used in the same sentence before. Take all their ‘evidence’ with a grain of salt.
I think everybody watching here understand the consequences of these findings very well indeed.
*Eva's
There were people in the bunker who would have done ANYTHING to save AH. The witness statements tend to concur that AH and his wife committed suicide together. But how many of them actually came in contact with the corpses after that happened? Not that many; and only a few survived the war to be interrogated. I think Hitler’s valet was the only one that actually dealt with the bodies. Hannah Reitsch and R. von Greim flew out on the 28th. Some bunker personnel escaped 4 days after that. It’s not impossible that AH and his wife made a similar journey. He had the resources and time to plan for it.
Dr Felton does it again. More information in 20 minutes than you'll find anywhere else. No sensationalism, just pure facts and analysis.
Really?
And you know all this to be "pure facts" for what reason, again?
@@frontenac5083 he describes the sources of the facts he uses in his videos. if you have different facts, why don't you present them here?
@@frontenac5083 He cites his sources.
@@frontenac5083 references are given
I agree with you
I am a long-time viewer of this channel and I have to admit that this is one of Dr. Felton's best videos. I was so in awe that I gladly followed the invitation and made a paypal donation. Fantastic work like this can't be done for free.
Dentist here! Thoroughly loved this story. Thank you Dr. Felton!
Wow. Just wow. I had never heard these details and nor can I now accept that body was Eva’s. I can’t wait to hear the conclusion of this series. Thanks, Dr. Felton!
It's new to me too, and I've read more than a few books about WW2.
I've always thought Hitler and Eva probably killed themselves in the bunker, but the guards lied and led the soviets to the wrong bodies. They were 100% loyal to Hitler, still had the capabilities to fully cremate a body, and/or to move the bodies more than a couple feet from the bunker emergency exit. Hitler likely had what to do with his body planned out before his suicide. I doubt the plan was a half assed cremation and dump it two feet from the exit.
@@sillypuppy5940Well of course most just rinse and repeat information or allied propaganda.
@@patrickmunneke8348the propaganda is on both Allies and Axis. And both stated facts. Sifting through is what researchers do.
@@rutabagasteu I am aware. And yet I'm bombarded with allied propaganda where as the Axis is a drop in the park.
The internal bleeding prior to death, is close to a smoking gun; that it was not Eva Braun. If all the other bunker occupant's stories are correct, then it can't be her. Fascinating story.
@@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 The witnesses stories prove it was her! You have to ask why didnt anyone including the chauffer sell the story in 1990 for 1 million pounds if it was not her?
*occupants' stories
Learn how to use apostrophes.
(In other words: learn basic English.)
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307witnesses can lie. How is it conclusive that someone selling a story proves anything. The forensic evidence doesn’t lie.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Witnesses with substantial reasons to lie vs medical evidence. OK bro.
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307money doesn't drive everyone.
I take your findings over the standard story. Thank you Dr. Felton.
Fact that Gobel and his entire family were killed in the same way as Hitler and Eva died makes me think that the generally accepted version of Hitler's demise is true. They would've most likely followed any exit path their leader have chosen.
Absolutely!
Exactly. Goebbels doesn't stay and die in Berlin if Hitler had already left for Argentina.
@@user-wj6dt5bq3wunless he didn't know himself.
I have never really been a fan of history but after watching both episodes of this series. Mr. Felton has made history for me actually enjoyable
Hitler escaped to Argentina, watch the documentary film Greywolf.
You have never interested in the story of mankind? AKA HIStory?
Best part,all kinds of history for you to discover. Happy Saturday. 🇨🇦
Not for...
@@elegantslave0lolguy739 Everything is History, even the future.
Dr. Felton, you are the eternal shovel of buried history. Godspeed
All hail, the great Shovel!
What is your point.? They burned right there
Hail the shovel of history!
Ahh the mighty russian shovel is british ???😱
When Mark Felton gives you facts about a subject, he really gives you fact, great information
Dr Felton you're a fascinating chap. A story so thoroughly accepted and no longer questioned has, in my mind, been cast in the shadow of the unknown once more. Well done sir 👏
Dr. Felton always comes up with the most interesting series’ to watch 😁
Hitler escaped to Argentina, watch the documentary film Greywolf.
Not a doctor, does not practice medicine
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y he has a PhD in History which earns him the title of Dr. You’re thinking of Doctor of Medicine which is MD, smart arse.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y Yes, but Dr. Jill would still make a wonderful Surgeon General for America, at least that what Whoopi Goldberg said!
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y The term "doctor" was originally given to medical doctors, since 1600's , but in the last century it was also given to PHDs.
Always a great day when Dr. Felton uploads an episode!
Not a doctor. Does not practice medicine. Makes you feel smart and inclusive saying the word, "doctor" . Like you're intelligent and the know yourself.
You are at least two centuries late, @@user-ru9gf7ky2y . this title is also given to everyone who has a PHD. I can say that as a medical doctor too.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y He earned his PhD soooo, as I understand it, he's allowed to use the term. Oh, and "Lighten up Francis."
These mini-documentaries about the smaller and usually more interesting subject are of the highest quality, bar none.
Both of my grandfathers fought in Europe in the war. My Paternal Grandfather was in Naples recovering from an injury in N Africa when Benito met his fate in the Italian alps and had bought a photograph from one of the original photographers that took a picture of the bodies hung from the metal framework, that we still have to this day. My grandmothers brother was with the liberating forces at Buchenwald concentration camp and we have the letters he wrote home and a few of the pictures that he took ( the ones that survived my very Christian great grandmother burning). He passed away in the 50’s , so I never got to hear his stories but my grandfather and uncles who were over there always felt that Hitler escaped to Argentina with so many others. All of these stories are so wonderfully written and I appreciate the time that you take to present them. Much love to you from Raeford North Carolina, USA. I live right next to Ft Bragg, which is an extremely historic army base here in the states. About 20 miles from where I live is Maxton Air base , where many glider pilots were trained during the war. Thank you again for your superb work Mark. 🤙🤙
Good comment.
He bought a photo of a mutilated corpse hanging from a metal framework? Why would one do that? That's macabre.
Mark Felton productions is the true History Channel.
This series is approaching that depth...
Not that “reality TV” nonsense.
History Channel has ET's stories. It is a joke.
The education continues. The fascination continues. The learning continues. Thank you once again for your hard work and your commitment to presenting historical fact in such an awesome way.
Hitler escaped to Argentina, watch the documentary film Greywolf.
Great 2nd episode Mark! I never knew about these discrepancies with the supposed body of Eva Braun. Can’t wait for the 3rd presentation covering Hitler’s remains!
While there does seem to be anomalies regarding the corps, on fact is they were never seen again alive. Great video Mark.
From a fellow Aussie, I agree with you. No reliable evidence has come to light to support a confirmed sighting of either of the Hitlers alive after April 1945. Mark does excellent work.
After April 22, there was hardly anyone left in the chancellery bunker, according to Gestapo Müller, only two secretaries remained, "the oldest" who would never speak (Johanna Wolf, who never spoke) and "the youngest and dumbest "....Else Krüger, Bormann's secretary, who would later marry his English interrogator.....there was also Bormann, Gestapo Müller, Linge and Rattenhuber...and all the personnel necessary for the bunker's operation. The big problem for Müller was that the buried body of A. Hitler's double was expected to be found a week later (he was buried next to the fountain in the Chancellery garden) so that the decomposition would help to confuse the remains with the true A.H. A few hours after the Germans surrendered, the body was found, dehydrated but not decomposed.
Why was more not made of this earlier?
@@GuinessOriginal In Argentina, Paraguay and Chile, history has been written differently, in Europe and the US Trevor Roper's comments were taken as the true story, but Trevor Roper obeyed orders and that order commanded him to "kill Hitler" in the papers, while the OSS, through Allan Dulles, was negotiating in Switzerland with Karl Wolf, (General of the SS) who represented A.H., for this reason Göring and Himmler were left powerless... In the Chancellery Bunker he died only one person Ferdinand Beisel, one of the doubles of A.H whose corpse the Russians found.... Napoleon Bonaparte said: "...history is a set of lies...consensual..."
Fact is that nazi had plan what wil happen after war , a loot of riches that germans stole in ww2 was never recovered ! ... I am sure that cash was invested after war by "ex" nazi in german economy . I am sure hitles survived war , but I doubt he ever left germany , he loved montains and if there was whloe nazi village that had loot of riches , no one had any reason to snitch on him , some elderly cobler/amateur painter , he could be bit similar to adolf hitler , but had no mustache ,and who village would say they they know him , he lived there whole life , and he was anti nazi ... I remember few years back Italian mafia boss Bernardo Provenzano was fugitive for 43 years and with all his power and money he was living modest life style , and I am sure that hitler was living modest life style , but he had power to his death ... and look at Germany AD 2023 , they are very aggresive , look how they push their policies , they work with long term plan , and target is to get control over Europe with economy , now they want to federalize Europe , and have one European army = no independece for any state but Germany in EU ... and fore me is funny how Germans say , nazis did all ww2 crimes ... who where those nazis ? and what happen with them after war ? , they got back to germany , had children , grand children , and those children and grand children rule now germany ...
whats your source for this drivel?
@@abdihassan7208 What Gestapo Müller said to a CIA director in 1948, to an agent and to a German stenographer. Everything was explained during 21 days in which the agents stayed in the Villa in Bern, Switzerland where Gestapo Müller lived. The transcription of the talks was given to Gregory Douglas, who put it in the 3-volume book Gestapo Chief published in 1995, the data was given to Douglas by "the Crow" who is Mr. Robert T Crowley, director of CIA Covert Operations.
I would have liked him to ask me without adding the words "that nonsense" perhaps if he investigated the real history a little he would find out that much of what he was taught in school was modified by "political needs of that situation"...
You have my greatest respect.
Mark Felton’s history tour on World War 2 is simply the best on UA-cam. Every single video is well researched, well explained and informative. There is no other channel that could compete, I certainly haven’t found one. My favourite channel by far.
FELTON IS AWESOME IN HIS OWN DOMAIN. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MILITARY ASPECT OF WW2 "TIK HISTORY" 'S 40PLUS HOURS DOCUMENTARY ON STALINGRAD, WITH MAPS GOING DOWN TO BATTALION AND EVEN COMPANY LEVEL IS UNBEATABLE. AND "WW2" CHANNEL WITH IT'S WEEKLY REPORTS, NOW ALREADY COVERING A FEW HUNDRED HOURS, WITH 24 HOUR LONG D DAY SPECIAL ALONE, IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE WW2 NOT ONLY DOCUMENTARY, BUT WORK IN GENERAL EVER MADE. BASED OF WHAT YOU SAID I GUESS YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM. FELTON IS BETTER AT STORY TELLING THOUGH AND PICKS THE MOST CONTRAVERSIAL SUBJECTS.
The details given in Dr. Felton’s videos is incredible. Amazing.
Not s doctor. Doesn't practice medicine.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y
As many other folks have pointed out to you, Dr. Felton earned a PhD, and it is proper to refer to him as “Doctor Felton.” You are correct that he is not a medical doctor; he is not an MD.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y It’s an academic PhD, referred to as “doctor’. So Dr. Felton is correct, most likely a doctorate in modern history.
Its always feels good coming back after a busy day to sit down on the couch and watch some Mark Felton videos and also learn something new at the same time
This was defiantly an eye opener, to be honest I have never actually heard the story of identification of Eva Braun only Hitler. Extremely interesting Mark! Can't wait for the next episode!
Can't believe just how much of this story i never knew, another amazingly researched episode Dr Felton.
Try to imagine what you dont know about the Sept 11 World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. But the bottom line is who benefited and it surely wasnt a rag tag bunch of Saudi nuts.
The picture of the poor dog was a very sad one for me, as she had done nothing wrong as is frankly an outrage.
To be fair, I'm sure if Soviet soldiers found her alive they'd have treat the dog horrifically, probably beating it to death.
While sad, shooting her was probably the best option.
Lovely dogs, Alsatians...breeding has left them with some unfortunate defects, (the pointing stance, of show types, leads to arthritis at a young age...and its heartbreaking. I still miss my brothers dog. He was a great mate).
Probably the worst thing Hitler did 😢
Dude ordered the death of 6 million people, killing a dog is the least of his crimes
Definitely Mark Felton's channel
Great work Mark! This is the first I have heard about these discrepancies in Eva's autopsy.
This is some of the best WWII content on the internet. Excellent stuff.
I had read that the teeth didnt match but to hear about the shrapnel and hemorrhage of the heart is a huge revelation. That couldn't have been Eva's body. Absolutely no way that way her.
If that wasn't eva then who was it? More importantly where is Eva? If there's no body then nobody's dead. The duplicate dental furniture smack of careful and prior planning. Not enough to say Hitler survived, but, plenty to ask who was buried in hitlers grave
Maybe a double?
And there is no way they would fake only Eva Braun and not Hitler’s body too. The forensic evidence preeented here shows it cannot be her. And it would be inconceivable that Hitler really killed himself but Braun didn’t: so where did they go?
@@robinpage2730 or just a women they found dead in the streets of berlin roughly matching her height .
or maybe the history about the suicide was fake. a fairy's tale to enhance the spirit of german's nationalism? Maybe the dentist's memory was not so good. Maybe Eva tried to escape alone in one day in advance, just after the marriage, and was dead by some shrapnel , and the bunker's occupants decided to create a history of courage and not cowardice. All these stories are a matter of faith only.
Excellent work as always Mark...thorough and clearly showing evidentiary facts that certainly throw some doubt on these bodies identification, Eva's especially.
Mister Felton, I have tremendous respect for you. And this was the first video of yours I have ever seen. But of any "Conspiracy Video" too expose the truth your video is head and shoulder above anything else I have ever seen. It was objective, concise, thorough and left no room for argument or mincing hairs! BRAVO! V
I am convinced that the vast majority of conspiracy theorist and so-called 'truth seekers' have no interest in the truth. It's meaningless entertainment to them and they either like the world to be murky and ambiguous or they don't believe anything is possible or ever was. And perhaps it no longer is possible. There was once a time though when lies were rare and truth was common and this ended little by little with by the WWII it was all over. And only recently have my eyes been opened to the disturbing fact that those who choose to believe the official story are not fooled at all, just immoral and intellectually lazy. I respect Mr. Felton for not speculated as to what became of Adolf und Eva, which, to me added much credibility; not that it the video needed anymore. told
Aside from the drama going on in Berlin, you might be interested in the U-boat 234 "cargo submarine" that was initially headed to Japan, but later got radio orders to surrender to the Americans. Arrived in Portsmouth, New Hampshire with cargo intact. Including a dis-assembled (in crates) Messerschmitt Me 262, as well as enough refined Uranium to make an atomic bomb.
That is false. It was Germany's entire stock of uranium oxide, not weapons grade and it wouldn't have been enough to make a weapon, which the Japanese were far from developing.
Sounds like just the sort of thing Mark would cover, assuming it's historically correct.
"...as well as enough refined Uranium..." There is no evidence that this material had been refined to a level sufficient to construct an atomic device.
@@MrShobar but the Japanese had cyclotron technology for enrichment.
It’s also rumored that from the uranium found in the submarine, much of the U-235 in the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima was condensed.
Dr Felton teaches history the same way I enjoy learning it 😉 saying “I wonder what happened…” and then falling down the rabbit hole with that niche topic!
I always smash the like button on this channel before i watch knowing the material will be amazing
Mark Felton, thank you SO much for these videos! I cant help but get excited whenever you upload new content!
I read the book by Hugh Thomas twenty plus years back and have been intrigued ever since. Like all good mysteries, the fascinating aspect is knowing something is very wrong with the "official" story, but not knowing what actually happened. Great content. Many Thanks!
Well, look at what is happening on Maui. Same sort of bull.
Mark, I have followed you for years. This ranks amongst your best.
I love these two episodes you’ve done Dr. Felton! Thank you for the most factual and interesting history there is. I can’t wait to see the next episode!
Not a doctor. Does not practice medicine.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y if you have a masters degree in a subject you are called a docter know matter what subject you got the degree in so yes he is a docter
Looking forward to part 3 Dr Felton!
It is well known that Hitler had body doubles. Is it possible that there was at least one for Eva?
Any young women would do
Or sacrificed for the cause
The shrapnel probably means that she was just a convenient corpse found nearby.
@@vorynrosethorn903 Yup, exactly. Plenty to choose from.
@@vorynrosethorn903that kicked the teeth into to hide the evidence.
Similarly to how the Nazi's absconded or hid much of their treasure and important artifacts, it would tow the line of the theory that they also wouldn't let the bodies of two of the most important people of their movement simply fall into the hands of their enemies.
Very very well done Mark, I continue to be absolutely fascinated by the constantly emerging knowledge of this period in history
*Nazis
Learn basic English.
Killing your six children for entirely selfish reasons is beyond evil? Magda and Joseph deserve the full contempt of history
They genuinly believed their children had no future in a non national-socialistic future. One child of magda survived the war (first mariage). Poor or lucky kid.
It has also been said that Magda and Joseph were fearful of what the Red Army would do to the children once captured - including fears that they would be raped.
@MajorDook1 - I was just about to write your observation. Goebbels had to have been cognizant of the reprisals that would be exacted by the Soviets on high Nazi officials and their families. As mentioned in Mark's story here, even Braun's dentist's assistant got ten years in the gulag simply for who she was.
This was not entirely unfounded. After the war, Norway has tortured the children born of a Norwegian mother and German father. One such mother escaped to Sweden, and we know her German-Norwegian daughter as Annie-Fried of ABBA.@@MajorDook1
@@MajorDook1 but the reason Goebbels gave for killing them was "they would be coached into making propaganda statements against him" propagandist to the last huh?
Nothing beats waking up, realising it's a non working day and then finding Dr Felton has a new video
Theory:
I base my theory as a federal agent of 22 years, with countless cases I have investigated over that period.
1st: forensic evidence is very rarely ever contradicted. It is scientific and medical fact. So the lack of Cyanide in the blood and organs, plus the simple break of the capsule, clearly indicate the capsule was planted post mortem.
Add to that tge incongruous dental records and testimony versus what was revealed during autopsy. And the smoking gun,no Pun intended, is the two shrapnel wounds, with associated hemorrhage. Dead body do not pump blood through veins. Period.
2. This clearly points to some sort of body double.
3. Hitler was adamant that he should never be captured alive, nor should his dead body ever be captured, most especially by the Soviets.
4. Posit this theory, that Eva Braun left with the other bunker staff during Operation Seralgio. She is relatively non descript, looking very much like the average German woman of her age and the time frame. With a change of hair color and style, a pair of glasses, some frumpy clothing, she could easily pass for any young German woman. Add to that a complete, abd authentic set of 3rd Reich issued identity documents under an assumed name. And she simply fades into the chaos of post war Germany and Europe. She could also have easily been spirited out of Germany through the rat lines.
While only a theory, it is certainly very plausible, and forensic evidence does not lie.
But forensic reports sometimes do.
I do question the forensic aptitude of Soviet scientists in 1945 vs foreniscs now. The forensic science of the day was probably quite rudimentary. The cyanide ingested from the small ampules was obviously quite miniscule and highly concentrated. Were they looking for the correct broken down byproducts of cyanide and how sensitive was their equipment to detect it did they have at that time? How long had the already mostly destroyed body been laying outside in the open air environment before it was tested? These kinds of questions are why I would be skeptical of the autopsy reports back then and whether or not you should take them with a grain of salt.
"...This clearly points to some sort of body double... ". OK. But to what end? Other credible testimony shows that she committed suicide with Hitler in the bunker. No doubt, Felton would agree with this, too. So, why a "body double"?
We have to keep in mind the political side of this theory. I don't think Braun's survival would have world consequences(except for history and tabloids). But Hitler's would, if he escaped the ramifications would be far reaching. But pronouncing them both dead, does serve the narrative of history. It is pretty easy to hide just about anywhere in the world, as long as you have trusted help, and never go out.
I like your theory, considering the chaos of the situation. Very plausible.
My grandfather was a pilot in WW2, I had shown his flight logs to people in the know. I was told we have to rewrite a few history books. It goes to show that there is always more to find under the umbrella of history.
@@pogue972 a good point. My skepticism originates mainly with the chest shrapnel wounds and accompanied hemorrhaging. Whether 1945, 2023, or 800 BC, a dead heart does not pump blood.
Also, another thought, Hitler cared very deeply for Eva Braun, that much we know, and given the attitude toward protecting women, somewhat amplified in nazi germany, it is very believable that Hitler would have wanted her out of Berlin. Then end was obvious, even to someone as deranged as Hitler. So Eva is sent away with the other Bunker staff.
A suitable dead young female, one killed during the Russian assault, could easily have been found, and burned and buried alongside Hitlers body, (or a doubles) to reinforce the story they boith killed themselves abd were burned. That pre supposes that Hitler also escaped. We will have to wait and see what Mark's next installment presents by way of evidence to jump down that rabbit hole.
Another great story of historical significance. Dr. Felton you never disappoint
This is really great timing, I just got into researching about this topic and started watching all of your videos on hitler's death and others on it. I have watched a lot and knew nothing about this on Eva Braun. Amazing work on this video, thanks!
Keep telling the details Doctor!...
They are the keystone of truly understanding history, vague lessons are why so many people don't become as enthralled as us.
The suspense is killing me Dr. Felton! Please release Episode 3!
Drum roll please!
Looking forward to the tsunami of conspiracy theories and creative fictional history we'll see in the comments after the next video.
The best history channel period.highly appreciate your uploads good sir
This excellent mini-séries of forensic investigation is breathtaking and utterly interesting. Many many Thanks for the high quality of your (huge) works 👍👍👍
This is the pre-February 2022 Mark Felton that I was such a big fan of.
I mean he is Anglo-Saxon so he will keep the side of hitler
@@olsiontoska9520
What?
Episodes 1 and 2 are quite excellent. Thank you for these videos and look forward to more.
Great work Doctor Felton!
Very unbiased commentary on a precise point in history,just what we have come to expect from Mark Felton👍
That is indeed intriguing.
It would mean that all the witnesses were either lying, or mistaken (be it accident or plot).
And considering the “extensive” interrogations involved, one can hardly conclude other than that the witnesses actually thought it was Eva who died.
They all say she said goodbye and withdrew with Hitler into their personal quarters. The last flights from Berlin had already left.
So either they’re all lying (hardly likely) or Eva was switched afterwards (hardly likely) and even then, how did they manage to disappear her?
It seems far more likely that something strange just happened to her body. In my humble opinion.
But that's impossible, due to what's said in the video. It must have been a woman already dead and impacted by shrapnel.
But it's pretty much a fact that the body had taken a shrapnel wound before death and had no signs of cyanide poisoning beyond the mouth. You have 2 unlikely scenarios vs an impossibility.
Very interesting, great work putting this together. I can't wait for part 3.
10 out of 10 for an excellent investigative report. I'm excited to see part 3, thank you!
Compelling, fascinating, and thought provoking. In other words, classic Felton! 🤘💯
If this man is your teacher and you don't understand then you can never understand . Thank you Dr. Felton.
This format of multiple episodes is most enjoyable and interesting , thankyou for your efforts , well done
This has been an interesting set of long form video’s by Dr. Felton that explores yet again another part of the Second World War. Well done Dr. Felton!
Hitler escaped to Argentina, watch the documentary film Greywolf.
One of the finest historians alive today...thanx doc
Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.
Fantastic video. Thanks for walking through the evidence so clearly and succinctly. I never studied history so I have no idea how you research and organise your videos. It shows that you work hard to produce some great videos for all of us (present and future) to enjoy.
Considering the absolute chaos that was Berlin in May 1945, I can see how any number of forensic errors could be made regarding the Hitlers. It was a rapidly evolving situation. I'm amazed that the Soviets were able to accomplish much of anything in the middle if that mess.
How can we accept Soviet account tho? They’ve always been liars
Unfortunately, that is usually the justification for when things don't add up. "It's messy. Don't look into it."
The Soviets accomplished" much . Treachery plus.
How would they have made these errors? It's either the wrong records or the wrong body.
Fantastically researched as always, brilliant channel Mark. I don't know if we'll ever really know what truly happened to the Hilters.This is the best observation of the available documentation from the time
Didn't you know? They later went on to make an unsuccessful sitcom for the BBC.
I was intrigued by the 2019 TV series Hunting Hitler and wondered if it was possible, on a practical level, for Hitler to have escaped the Bunker and Berlin and flee Germany. I was intrigued enough to conduct research on the available books written by surviving 'Bunkervolk' after the war, or investigators such as Trevor Roper and James P. O'Donnell (who interviewed almost all surviving bunkervolk in the 1970s). And the book written by Russian investigators for Stalin - 'The Hitler Book: The Secret Dossier Prepared for Stalin'.
What stood out to me in the Stalin book, is the interrogation of the Berlin dental nurse Kathe who, it is claimed, positively identified Hitler's teeth and bridge as that of Hitler she had worked on. The Russians subjected this poor woman to a six hour interrogation from around midnight to dawn, (and it probably wasn't the only interrogation of her) then coerced her to sign a document of her 'statement' composed in Russian by a staff member, which Kathe could neither read nor understand. It was verbally translated to her. But we cannot know if the translation was accurate. The most likely scenario is that by the end of the interrogation she was suffering from nervous exhaustion and would have signed anything just to get some sleep and be left alone. No western law court nor a coroner would accept that document as reliable evidence, not even on the lower civil level of proof - 'balance of probabilities'. Yet it is so often touted as definitive proof the set of teeth held in Russia are those of Hitler.
I think too much weight is placed upon the dental evidence as showing they are Hitler's. No properly conducted scientific examination, independently verified by western laboratories, seems to be forthcoming. Plus, I have not come across a DNA extracted from the teeth and compared with Hitler's relatives DNA. It appears DNA tests have never been carried out. I could be wrong but I have not come across this.
In spite of the above, there is no evidence, verifiable, that I read about which could prove Hitler was alive after April 1945. There are many claims of his sightings after the war, but none confirmed. My thoughts from all the many research books I read, the most likely scenario is that Hitler died in the bunker. But there is insufficient existing evidence for this to be definitive. There is no body. The claim that Hitler's corpse was buried under an East German parade ground, then later dug up, cremated and the ashes poured into the local river. The obvious question is, where are the records of the crematorium to support the claimed cremation? This has never come up in any talk about the fate of Hitler or his corpse. I provide this as one example of so many unanswered questions.
On one aspect of Mark's narrative in the first video, he claims there were witnesses to the death of Hitler and his new bride. Not one of the Bunkervolk present at the time claims to have witnessed the actual suicides. Other than this, Mark's research generally, seems very good. And of course as we have come to expect, well presented. Thank you Mark. And thank you readers for taking the time to read my comment.
Very interesting comment. The same has been said of the confessions coming from the Germans leading up to the nuremberg trials. Horrific torture. Very sensitive topic as into goes into H. revisionism, but maybe a topic we will be able to discuss freely in a few decades.
I liked part 1 and part 2 ,you've got me looking forward to part 3 !
and as always ; keep up the great work 👍
Gripping work, Dr. Felton. Thank you for what you do.
Thank you. Although your professionalism keeps you from speculation I'm an amateur who grew up in the baby boom and absorbed the sensational popular theories of that time. It seems like the easiest explanation is that Stalin's team knew not to cross him and faked the details to finish their report. They would have had the motivation, access to teeth and the bridge to make the wrong body match Eva. The identity of the corpse and Eva's fate were most likely lost during the chaos in Berlin.
Interesting theory!
Brilliant series Mr Felton , thank you.
Excellent video cannot wait for pt.3
I'm amazed at how Dr. Felton produces such quality investigations only days apart from his other productions...is he working round the clock?
Probably. Mebbe he has access to the same drugs that they were on ? Heh-heh.
These are obviously all pre recorded and he’s just drip feeding them
Brilliant uploads,serious hard work put into these videos as ever.Many thanks mark…
A really good and informative episode. I am really looking forward to the third episode.
Amazing video Mark! Keep up the amazing work!
What would the soviets (and Stalin mainly) gained or lost had they acknowledged both bodies were in fact missing? Aside from hypothesis about Hitler and Eva escape, something is sure, the Soviets (and the whole world for that matter) wanted to move on and supported the idea that they were dead. All this mystery sounds more political to me than anything else. Can you imagine the emotions in 1945 saying “they war is over but there is a tiny problem…….”
The tiny problem of never trust the soviets .
It seems to me that everyone wanted to just move on. Dr. Felton has demonstrated in other videos how the prosecutions of Nazi war criminals was done half-heartedly and many were just dropped. Nazis were allowed to escape down the "Rat Lines" operated by the Vatican. Something here really stinks, and I'm telling you, the entire rest of the 20th century and into now has that stink upon it.
Could it be that the Soviet administrator in charge of this investigation wanted so badly to give Stalin the news that his rival had died, smudged the evidence and covered up the true story?
Just imagine what about had happened if it was declared that Hitler and Eva Brain escaped. So there was a very good reason to disbelieve the official version anyway
Russia did declare that. The Russians kept the death of Hitler a secret for many years and claimed the west helped them escape. Most of what we know now, we know only because the soviet union collapsed. The narrative that Hitler did not commit suicide, but instead escaped Berlin, was first presented to the general public by Marshal Georgy Zhukov at a press conference on 9 June 1945, on orders from Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.
It is a matter of public record that many Nazis escaped with US assistance and resettled in the Americas and even put back into power in West Germany 😮...and nobody cares at all (except the Russians)
My only criticism would be there were so many looking for him that wouldn't just let him walk away. He was the most hunted man on the planet at the time. It's one thing for lesser known Nazis to escape and another for the probably most notorious person on the planet at the time to do so and never be found.
Is it possible? Sure but the likelihood of it is pretty slim.
I think they escaped to Tel Aviv, the last place anyone would try to find them ...
@@swirvinbirds1971 Sure, but if they sailed off on a sub to S. America into hiding? We know that's where a lot of other infamous and truly brutal Nazis ended up. How/why did so many intelligence agencies from the time allow that to take place?
Fascinating series Dr Felton. Thanks for sharing!
Interesting..... Bring on episode 3..
This is your best work yet!!
You know it’s a good day when you see a new video from Dr. Mark Felton is out!
Dr. Felton, as always doing an outstanding quality job. I'm grateful for the effort to research and constantly share interesting topics like this.
Can't wait for episode 3 . I really enjoy the longer episodes.
Worth the wait, another great video! Can’t wait for episode 3
Much of this confusion is predicated on Soviet records. That should be a caution at the least.
The interesting "theory" is that, while Rochus Misch, had always said that he and other staff opened the door and saw the corpses and he and other SS staff carried the "covered bodies" out, he could never say who covered the bodies. There is always the assumption that other bunker personnel did. But no survivors at the time said they hadn't. So, with conflicting assumptions, how do we know whose corpses were covered. Of course, it could have been staff who committed suicide, such as Krebs or Burgdorf.
So what happened to Hitler & Braun? Escape? To South America?
The biggest issue for me about any South America scenario is that we're expected to believe that after a lifetime of causing trouble he just chucked all that in & retired. Just travelled from rural hotel to rural hotel until he died? Never hooked up with any of the other senior party members who were verified as being in South America & tried to start another movement & kick start the war?
Not likely. Whatever happened he didn't make it out of the Reichstag area.
Fantastic video Dr Felton. This is the fist I’ve ever heard about the anomalies on Eva Brauns body.
Loving this particular Find the Fuhrer series... excellent work as per usual. Thank you
Thank you once again, Dr. Felton.
Another fantastic and intriguing video Mark, well done, as always. I think there is a lot to be said for the Investigative journalism by the late Gerrard Williams on this subject.
Excellent, Dr. Felton. One of your best!
Mark, you really did your job well, amazing work 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Have you ever tried to burn anything in a pit without sufficient air flow it just doesn't work
Add about 50 gallons of gasoline.
Absolutely fascinating video, Dr.Felton. Thank you for the history and lesson.
Excellent video, sir.