This channel is criminally underrated. It's a shame I don't know many comic readers so that I could suggest this channel to them. Great work as always. Please keep up the good work !
Thanks so much for the kind words. Wanting to chat about comics with more people is one of the primary drivers for making videos on this channel so irrespective of folks around us, now you know me and I know you! 😀 As long as you keep watching, I’ll keep making videos!
I do have this on hold from my library; but I find there's a line between where I enjoy a comic and where it becomes too much work to enjoy, and, at least with the Jimmy C comics, and certainly with the end-papers and introduction as you've displayed, Ware's work crosses that line too often for me. Dave Sim did as well in later parts of Cerebus, but only after years of comics entertainment preceding and leading up to his prose 'screeds'. And, too, alas, I'm old enough now that the tiny type will certainly be a deterrent as well. But hey--I'll sure give it a try: thanks for continuing to bring the less well known and the worthy to our attention!
I think I'm with you as far as the 'prose screeds' are concerned, especially on a first read. In fact, with Alan Moore books like Watchmen and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I just skipped theit prose sections entirely the first time I encountered them. My brain kind of switches off when I see a huge block of prose in a comic, even though I read prose by itself regularly. It's a little different when it is end papers and covers etc though, because those are extras, not meant to be part of the story but part of the production. The fact that people like Ware and Seth try and incorporate production into adding facets or texture to a story is very interesting and dare I say an exclusive power of comics. The main thing will always remain the comics story within the covers, so if I enjoy the book, I come back and read through them, much in the way I would read an annotated copy of a book if it was the first time I was reading the book.
I just received a used copy of "Jimmy Corrigan" from taobao (I live in Shanghai). It's missing the dust jacket, but otherwise appears to be in good condition -- a bargain for RMB 45 (about 450 rupees). I've maintained an interest in comics since reading Marvel comics as a kid. In the second half of the 1990s I lived intermittently in France, and have a set of the magazine "A suivre" from 1995/96, near the end of its run. "A suivre" introduced me to "Leon la came" by De Crecy & Chomet (maybe best known as director of the film "The Triplets of Belleville"), still one of my favourite comics (I bought it in book form), but I don't think it has been translated into English. My order from Taobao also includes "Peplum" by Blutch. This was also serialized in "A suivre", but I found it incomprehensible at the time -- maybe I'll be able to make sense of it in this English translation. (Another favorite from "A suivre" was "La vache" by De Moor and Desberg.) In the 2000s I spent some time in Spain and bought books by Paco Roca and Fermin Solis. I found the Alliance Francaise and Instituto Cervantes libraries in Shanghai have good collections of comics. If there are similar institutes in New Delhi, you may be able to have a look at comics there without spending money on books you can't read. How about a feature on Indian comics?
The paperback edition does have the 'Corrigenda'. It is 2 cm less in height so the images and text are a little cramped up to read. This is the Pantheon edition I am talking about. In this edition, one thing I have observed; some color shades in the images are a little less bright than the ones in the edition you reviewed here (mine might be a fake/pirated copy, idk : l )
Hey, thankyou for that info! Very interesting...i know that different printings, especially of late with supply issues, can have differing paper, or even different printers, which can create variations. I somehow think Ware is too niche to pirate (and his works seem reasonably priced) so maybe you just have a 'production variant'? 😁
Nice stuff, I have seen quite a few of your videos. I decided to subscribe at last! I have noticed different covers for Jimmy Corrigan, I wonder what are the differences!
Another excellent video! You've convinced me to seek out the Jimmy Corigan hardcover edition! I think i'm going to need a magnifying lens for some of the parts.
Is there such a thing as a double jeweler's loupe? Fitting like a ponce-nez? That's my fantasy reading instrument for the small text in this book! Glad you liked the video and let us know what you think of the book once you've read it!
Fantastic video as always! I enjoyed the book. But felt after reading it, you need to think about it. Heavy subjects as you pointed out in the previous video. Think that some readers, will find the timeline can be hard to follow. Think I will have to read it again, but still fantastic. It deserves all the awards and praise it has gotten.
It definitely stays with you, but I felt myself remembering *scenes* (the buying of the answering machine, them at the fast food place and the whole 'no ketchup' sequence, the waking up on the couch, James' abandonment - I'll leave later sequences out, but there are many) more than *'themes'* or *'motifs'*, which was interesting because it showed me the book had a narrative power beyond the technical accomplishment alone. I agree it's not for everyone, but I'm certainly no intellectual and I read this at the same time I was reading mainly superhero comics like Stormwatch/The Authority, and if it could impress my simple brain then, I feel it could truly be enjoyed by a 'non-art' crowd as well! True, the timeline is a bit tough at first, but I found that 'What's happened so far' recap absolutely vital in mapping it out for me early, and found following along after that much easier.
Great thinking, for me the standout scene was the first interaction with his father. You can clearly feel the anxiety but also the sense of home sickness within him. Read this a few months ago. So maybe my interperation is too fresh and I need to digest it further.
I think your interpretation is just fine! That's a great scene as well, but that's sort of the way I feel, they're all terrific scenes, linked together with a form and style that achieves something unique. I agree with you that this is a difficult book in some ways, but I -perhaps just to be a contrarian! - go around claiming this is a great starting comic too: If you come to it with no preconceived notions of what a comic should be (and are fond of 'literature'), you will discover new ways of reading and interpreting. Some would say the panel work and complex arrangements need you to be a comics expert, but I think the opposite - having very little idea on how to read it leads to some very interesting discoveries on one's own! =) Now that's the sign of a creator in masterful control of their work!
@@ftloc just watched the top 10 Gateway comics video too. Really great stuff. As someone only really interested in the fringes of comics (I just read Blankets in 24 hours - incredible), I'm happy to subscribe for such thoughtful content
I spent a couple days as a homeless man with this book on the streets of Mesa and Chandler AZ. I got it from the big library in Mesa AZ. I haven't read so much, or made use of the library in general as I did when when I had to rely on the printed word. Reading shit on your computer or phone isn't the same as when you open a book and read from it. It's not exactly like this example but it's close. It's like the difference between ACDC and The Clash. One isnt a substitute for the other.
The moral of this story is that you should never listen to anyone that plays an actual instrument. Those things are obsolete and must be done away with at our earliest convenience. You can make any useless a guitar of drum set can make with a computer. Stop pretending like a robot hasn't already replaced you.
I have a paperpack version. the end page is not there it just ends on the lat page of the novel. I'm still trying to figure out how to read this. The storyline is non-linear and quite confusing at times, but im defs gonna get through it.
Ah, too bad about the end pages, but they're not at all 'vital' to the story, just great for additional texture. An yes, it is a dense story but with the chapter breaks and title cards, it gets easier to follow along. Also, there's a recap page about 1/4 of a way through that people find very useful to make sense of what they have read so far, and I think after that it is easier to keep track of Jimmy, his dad, and his grandad's stories. Let me know how it goes for you!
@@ftloc hey thanks for the detailed reply that’s great to know! I’m hundred percent gonna finish it no question. It’s a captivating and interesting read. I will say I think it’s some of if not the best sequence comic art I’ve ever seen. I actually feel like I’m following Jimmy’s movements through each panel. It’s so well crafted as if it’s live action it’s really well done. Sometimes it’s hard to follow along where to go next but the arrows do help. Thanks for the lovely review and the thoughtful comment. Love your page! I’ll update when I’m through the book. Cheers!
I just realized, you don't have any of the individual ACME library. Haha, it is beyond the the composites exponentially. I have the full set, (including signed number 1), and am honestly considering selling them, to someone who could truly appreciate it. My family cannot, unfortunately.
I do in fact own all 21 issues; I show a few of the hardcovers in my Rusty Brown video and the rest pop up sporadically in my Shelf Tour videos. As they are all different sizes, they are scattered through my bookshelves! 😁
On a chris ware binge, i do own a paperback and hardcover of "Jimmy ". And the beginning and ending are not white pages but the exact same as hardcover also the inside of the dust jacket is printed on the second page of the book, only thing missing is the dust jacket front pagr with the naked jimmy and robot. Jut letting u know, tc
Small correction, the picture where you explained that it relates to Jimmy's parents, is in-fact the parents of Jimmy's father. So actually we get to see the life story of William Corrigon, James & Jimmy. Take a closer look once again ..... :D William Corrigan's Father (Profession - Physician) > William C (Civil War Vet - Later Builder) > James C > Jimmy's Dad > Jimmy
This channel is th best. Thanks for this✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
So lovely to hear this; thank you and long may your enjoyment continue! 😁
This channel is criminally underrated. It's a shame I don't know many comic readers so that I could suggest this channel to them.
Great work as always. Please keep up the good work !
Thanks so much for the kind words. Wanting to chat about comics with more people is one of the primary drivers for making videos on this channel so irrespective of folks around us, now you know me and I know you! 😀
As long as you keep watching, I’ll keep making videos!
I do have this on hold from my library; but I find there's a line between where I enjoy a comic and where it becomes too much work to enjoy, and, at least with the Jimmy C comics, and certainly with the end-papers and introduction as you've displayed, Ware's work crosses that line too often for me. Dave Sim did as well in later parts of Cerebus, but only after years of comics entertainment preceding and leading up to his prose 'screeds'. And, too, alas, I'm old enough now that the tiny type will certainly be a deterrent as well. But hey--I'll sure give it a try: thanks for continuing to bring the less well known and the worthy to our attention!
I think I'm with you as far as the 'prose screeds' are concerned, especially on a first read. In fact, with Alan Moore books like Watchmen and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I just skipped theit prose sections entirely the first time I encountered them. My brain kind of switches off when I see a huge block of prose in a comic, even though I read prose by itself regularly.
It's a little different when it is end papers and covers etc though, because those are extras, not meant to be part of the story but part of the production. The fact that people like Ware and Seth try and incorporate production into adding facets or texture to a story is very interesting and dare I say an exclusive power of comics. The main thing will always remain the comics story within the covers, so if I enjoy the book, I come back and read through them, much in the way I would read an annotated copy of a book if it was the first time I was reading the book.
totally convinced me to go for the hardcover edition!
great video :D
keep it up!
I'm glad! It really is a terrific 'object of art'
I just received a used copy of "Jimmy Corrigan" from taobao (I live in Shanghai). It's missing the dust jacket, but otherwise appears to be in good condition -- a bargain for RMB 45 (about 450 rupees).
I've maintained an interest in comics since reading Marvel comics as a kid. In the second half of the 1990s I lived intermittently in France, and have a set of the magazine "A suivre" from 1995/96, near the end of its run. "A suivre" introduced me to "Leon la came" by De Crecy & Chomet (maybe best known as director of the film "The Triplets of Belleville"), still one of my favourite comics (I bought it in book form), but I don't think it has been translated into English.
My order from Taobao also includes "Peplum" by Blutch. This was also serialized in "A suivre", but I found it incomprehensible at the time -- maybe I'll be able to make sense of it in this English translation. (Another favorite from "A suivre" was "La vache" by De Moor and Desberg.)
In the 2000s I spent some time in Spain and bought books by Paco Roca and Fermin Solis. I found the Alliance Francaise and Instituto Cervantes libraries in Shanghai have good collections of comics. If there are similar institutes in New Delhi, you may be able to have a look at comics there without spending money on books you can't read.
How about a feature on Indian comics?
Great video. Have to find a copy soon. Never got to read this one. Thanks again for making the videos.
Thanks for watching! Let us know what you think if you get your hands on this book.
I sure will.
The paperback edition does have the 'Corrigenda'. It is 2 cm less in height so the images and text are a little cramped up to read. This is the Pantheon edition I am talking about. In this edition, one thing I have observed; some color shades in the images are a little less bright than the ones in the edition you reviewed here (mine might be a fake/pirated copy, idk : l )
Hey, thankyou for that info! Very interesting...i know that different printings, especially of late with supply issues, can have differing paper, or even different printers, which can create variations. I somehow think Ware is too niche to pirate (and his works seem reasonably priced) so maybe you just have a 'production variant'? 😁
Yes, 'production variant' should seem to add up for the rationale. Thank you for the information. And keep making great videos 👍
Nice stuff, I have seen quite a few of your videos. I decided to subscribe at last! I have noticed different covers for Jimmy Corrigan, I wonder what are the differences!
A very warm welcome to the channel! 😁 I do hope you continue to enjoy it here, both with the upcoming videos and the library already in place! Cheers!
So glad I found your show. Great review!
Thanks so much!
Another excellent video! You've convinced me to seek out the Jimmy Corigan hardcover edition! I think i'm going to need a magnifying lens for some of the parts.
Is there such a thing as a double jeweler's loupe? Fitting like a ponce-nez? That's my fantasy reading instrument for the small text in this book! Glad you liked the video and let us know what you think of the book once you've read it!
Fantastic video as always! I enjoyed the book. But felt after reading it, you need to think about it. Heavy subjects as you pointed out in the previous video. Think that some readers, will find the timeline can be hard to follow. Think I will have to read it again, but still fantastic. It deserves all the awards and praise it has gotten.
It definitely stays with you, but I felt myself remembering *scenes* (the buying of the answering machine, them at the fast food place and the whole 'no ketchup' sequence, the waking up on the couch, James' abandonment - I'll leave later sequences out, but there are many) more than *'themes'* or *'motifs'*, which was interesting because it showed me the book had a narrative power beyond the technical accomplishment alone.
I agree it's not for everyone, but I'm certainly no intellectual and I read this at the same time I was reading mainly superhero comics like Stormwatch/The Authority, and if it could impress my simple brain then, I feel it could truly be enjoyed by a 'non-art' crowd as well! True, the timeline is a bit tough at first, but I found that 'What's happened so far' recap absolutely vital in mapping it out for me early, and found following along after that much easier.
Great thinking, for me the standout scene was the first interaction with his father. You can clearly feel the anxiety but also the sense of home sickness within him. Read this a few months ago. So maybe my interperation is too fresh and I need to digest it further.
I think your interpretation is just fine! That's a great scene as well, but that's sort of the way I feel, they're all terrific scenes, linked together with a form and style that achieves something unique. I agree with you that this is a difficult book in some ways, but I -perhaps just to be a contrarian! - go around claiming this is a great starting comic too: If you come to it with no preconceived notions of what a comic should be (and are fond of 'literature'), you will discover new ways of reading and interpreting. Some would say the panel work and complex arrangements need you to be a comics expert, but I think the opposite - having very little idea on how to read it leads to some very interesting discoveries on one's own! =) Now that's the sign of a creator in masterful control of their work!
The Anotated mother goose. you can't do away with the flippity flapitty floop of modern volumes.
Really great video. Very eloquent commentaries!
Thank you, very kind of you to say! If you get a chance to check out some more of our videos, I'd love to know what you think of them!
@@ftloc just watched the top 10 Gateway comics video too. Really great stuff. As someone only really interested in the fringes of comics (I just read Blankets in 24 hours - incredible), I'm happy to subscribe for such thoughtful content
Welcome! Thrilled to have you and looking forward to chatting with you here! 😊
I spent a couple days as a homeless man with this book on the streets of Mesa and Chandler AZ. I got it from the big library in Mesa AZ. I haven't read so much, or made use of the library in general as I did when when I had to rely on the printed word. Reading shit on your computer or phone isn't the same as when you open a book and read from it. It's not exactly like this example but it's close. It's like the difference between ACDC and The Clash. One isnt a substitute for the other.
The moral of this story is that you should never listen to anyone that plays an actual instrument. Those things are obsolete and must be done away with at our earliest convenience. You can make any useless a guitar of drum set can make with a computer. Stop pretending like a robot hasn't already replaced you.
I think I might keep hitting drums because I like it, and there isn't a substitute for it
Real books are erreplacible. Stop trying to kill them.
Great channel, subscribed instantly.
Thank you! Welcome to our little channel and we hope you enjoy all we have to offer! 😀
I have a paperpack version. the end page is not there it just ends on the lat page of the novel. I'm still trying to figure out how to read this. The storyline is non-linear and quite confusing at times, but im defs gonna get through it.
Ah, too bad about the end pages, but they're not at all 'vital' to the story, just great for additional texture. An yes, it is a dense story but with the chapter breaks and title cards, it gets easier to follow along. Also, there's a recap page about 1/4 of a way through that people find very useful to make sense of what they have read so far, and I think after that it is easier to keep track of Jimmy, his dad, and his grandad's stories. Let me know how it goes for you!
@@ftloc hey thanks for the detailed reply that’s great to know! I’m hundred percent gonna finish it no question. It’s a captivating and interesting read. I will say I think it’s some of if not the best sequence comic art I’ve ever seen. I actually feel like I’m following Jimmy’s movements through each panel. It’s so well crafted as if it’s live action it’s really well done. Sometimes it’s hard to follow along where to go next but the arrows do help. Thanks for the lovely review and the thoughtful comment. Love your page! I’ll update when I’m through the book. Cheers!
I just realized, you don't have any of the individual ACME library. Haha, it is beyond the the composites exponentially. I have the full set, (including signed number 1), and am honestly considering selling them, to someone who could truly appreciate it. My family cannot, unfortunately.
I do in fact own all 21 issues; I show a few of the hardcovers in my Rusty Brown video and the rest pop up sporadically in my Shelf Tour videos. As they are all different sizes, they are scattered through my bookshelves! 😁
My paperback had an awful spine. Pages were ready to fall out after one read. This looks much better.
Oh what a shame! I've now reread this very copy six or seven times over about 15 years and it still holds up fine, I'm happy to say.
On a chris ware binge, i do own a paperback and hardcover of "Jimmy ".
And the beginning and ending are not white pages but the exact same as hardcover also the inside of the dust jacket is printed on the second page of the book, only thing missing is the dust jacket front pagr with the naked jimmy and robot.
Jut letting u know, tc
Good to know, thanks for the 'edition comparison'! 😊 How's the binding on the paperback, something I'm always curious about with such thick books?
@@ftloc binding is soooo bad like garbage.
Small correction, the picture where you explained that it relates to Jimmy's parents, is in-fact the parents of Jimmy's father. So actually we get to see the life story of William Corrigon, James & Jimmy. Take a closer look once again ..... :D William Corrigan's Father (Profession - Physician) > William C (Civil War Vet - Later Builder) > James C > Jimmy's Dad > Jimmy
Thanks for that great catch! I'm going to go take another look and try to clarify the time line for me in that case! 😁
Paperback does have the same end pages
Ah good to know, thanks!
@@ftloc you're welcome