These are great retro displays, but which is better? (Sharp LC-15S4U-S vs Magnavox 15MF605T/17)
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- CRTs are awesome and pair nicely with retro computers / game consoles, but sometimes you don't have room for them or you can't afford the super high prices they demand. How well do there 4:3 early 2000's LCD TVs work when it comes to retro computers?
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EDTV was an industry badge for 480p/576p support.
Those 15" 4:3 HDTVs all seem to have pretty bad input lag, although you do get the benefit of supporting HDTV (albeit letterboxed into 4:3) and VGA inputs up to 1024x768 (the native resolution of the display panel). "Enhanced Definition" or EDTV was a marketing term for TVs which were not HD but did support progressive scan (480p). Most of them have a 640x480 or 800x600 display panel.
Sharp has Pal/Secam TVs the so-called PAL panels use a resolution of 940 × 540 pixels optimized for PAL and SECAM television signals.
Is the P50 Series LC-37P50E LC-32P50E LC-26P50E,
@14:00 : I think, setting the TV to "GAME" mode may influence the input latency (reduce it), which may be essential for gaming.
@20:40 : Magnavox may have detection of connected inputs and therefore doesn't allow you to select inputs, where nothing is connected.
I have a big widescreen version of that maganvox
The mirror and flip options on the Sharp monitor might be useful for teleprompter use or a heads up display (HUD).
Or when you're laying in the bath and watching the TV which is in the room next door and you can see it in the bathroom mirror, then you don't need to bring your super expensive Sharp into the steamy damp bathroom and short it out ... edge case I know but hey it is a use case
That's thinking outside the box, wouldn't have thought about that.
Or at a Barbershop, the customer can watch TV through the mirror while getting his/her hair cut.
The mirror option would be useful in an arcade cabinet that has a reflector mirror
Or in an arcade cabinet.. some had monitors in the base and reflected the image to the player to save space up top
Just so you know, the game setting on most TVs disables most, if not all processing on the image, and usually results in lower lag.
I can vouch for the usefulness of '00s portable LCD TVs like this. I have a 15" TCL I bought from an op shop for $5 dollarydoos (about tree fiddy in Freedom Bux). It has composite, component, S-Video, VGA and SCART inputs as well as analog and digital tuners. It's great for troubleshooting video output issues with old machines due to the number of inputs it has, and RF availability if all else fails is very helpful. 4:3 aspect ratio is the cherry on top.
If you find a TV like this in a thrift store, e-waste pile, dumpster, on the side of the road or wherever, just grab it.
Yeah!! SCART as well -- sounds so super useful. And surely it's full multi-standard too! Funny that something like that from and international market would be a good pick-up if I'm on a trip, simply because it would have 15khz SCART on it, something that's never found here.
@@adriansdigitalbasement2 yeah, it's multi-standard. I forgot to mention that because I've taken it for granted for so long. I forget the last time I had a TV that was PAL only.
The old Sharp televisions are probably interesting today, as they were optimized for PAL at the time and the panels used had a low resolution. The so-called PAL panels use a resolution of 940 × 540 pixels optimized for PAL and SECAM television signals.
LC-37P50E LC-32P50E LC-26P50E
With the last two "smart tv" I have purchased, I specifically looked for models that had as much input variation as possible. Took some good research, but now both have a 43inch and 55inch TVs with HDMI, VGA, Component, Composite, S-Video, and Coaxial RF--amazing. Everything I've plugged into it has worked beautifully (luckily, I don't have anything too low-frequency for them to display).
Awesome video.
I have that same sharp aquos as a 13 inch version. Power supply is build in to the tv, uses a 2 pron power cord. Gets hot. Got this tv since day one it came out and still rocking solid. I've been using it more often to play my retro gaming system since i have it near my work bench while i fix retro console. Use it to test my systems. I use rca and component connection. Works like a dream. The controller model is GA293WJSA. Thank you!!
I have an old JVC LCD TV that I've had from new. It has SCART (that does everything on its own!), VGA, HDMI, S-Video, Component, Composite and RF. It's a weird resolution so probably not the sharpest, but it's an invaluable part of my setup now just because of how many devices I can plug in. Literally everything I've tried works with it (up to 1080i), and I've usually got 4 or 5 things plugged in to it at the same time.
My local Goodwill's do a decent job of separating out monitors from TV's and putting them in a different area. However, these 4:3 aspect ratio monitors regular end up in the TV area. Be sure to look around the entire store before moving on. I have found several monitors for my kids computer addiction that way.
I have this exact Magnavox model; the VESA mounting holes are designed into the bottom of the foot, which can rotate backward to a 90° position, putting it parallel with the screen surface. Thanks for the additional information about these units, Adrian.😁 I think I will try to find an original remote, so I can potentially take advantage of PIP functionality.
I have a LCD on the left ive had it for 17 years its working well!
In the UK these types of TVs are regularly just abandoned on the pavement. I landed a multi-system 4:3 LG set that way and the picture quality is great.
I found a Sony Bravia 32" at a thrift store in walking distance from where I live. Paid around $30 for it.
It has all the connextion options I could ever dream of. Works great with any computer/console I connect to it. It's wide screen though, so i have to adjust to 4:3 mode manually, but that's easy using the remote.
Adrian some optometrist offices use mirrors that point to televisions on the wall behind the patient. The purpose being it adds the correct distance by using the mirror and reflecting the image back to the patient. And of course the images showing on the TV are to test eyesight. Don't know if this is why the option is on that one TV. But it's a possible use case.
I think my late grandmother had a Philips set that looked similar to the Magnavox you have there. About the video systems, PAL-M is 525/60 but with PAL colour at a slightly different frequency to where NTSC would be, used only in Brazil. PAL-N is 625/50 but designed to fit in a 6 MHz channel (rather than 7 or 8 MHz as used in other 50 Hz countries), it was used in some South American countries. PAL-60 is also 525/60 PAL but with the colour subcarrier at the standard 4.43 MHz. It wasn't used in broadcast but many game consoles support it.
PAL-M (from Brazil) is basically NTSC-M but chroma encoded in PAL mode (hence the M letter in both). So, 30fps, 60 fields per second, 480i horizontal lines. On the other side, PAL-N from Argentina is basically PAL-B with the chroma carrier "shifted" to almost the same frequency than NTSC, meaning 25 fps, 50 fields per second, 576i horizontal lines. That's because both systems have channels 6MHz wide due to ITU-R regulations for (all) America continent. Europe have 7MHz channels, that's why chroma carrier is bigger than other systems. PAL-60 has the best of both worlds: Larger horizontal lines (better vertical resolution) and greater refresh rate (60Hz instead of 50, so less flickering).
Most Dreamcast games allowed PAL-60, at least here in England. It means you can use an RF or composite cable to get 60Hz without sacrificing colour or screen resolution like you would with a Playsation. You could get 60Hz colour out of a Playstation using a SCART cable, but you'd still lose the 96 extra lines of pixels since it would always be 480 lines when in 60Hz mode.
yes you are right about the sharp, the picture modes are settable for each input individually.
The Sharp has a resolution of 640x480 based on extrapolating the stated number of dots in the manual, which is 921,600, which makes it more suitable for stuff intended to be displayed on a standard NTSC television. The Magnavox is 1024x768, and is using a scaler to display HD resolutions on the screen, so the badge proudly boasting of its HD capabilities is a complete fib.
I run a Hanspree monitor I picked up from a Goodwill for $20. 27inch or something big. It's a monster upgrade from the much smaller LCD I was using. It has a few faults; the buttons to adjust things aren't exactly responsive. The picture is a bit bright (better than a bit dark) but once I found the right screen size and resolution, it works great as a second monitor from my MacBook Air M2. It's almost spoiling with how big it is. It's not perfect, but it works. and it keeps one more gadget out of a landfill.
Mirroring is handy for "control monitor" scenarios where you would want it to look like a mirror more than the actual image. Some puppeteers for example prefer it like that, but most professionals just deal with the "reversed" image to get the actual look the audience has and mentally train for "this is not a mirror". But for regular stage monitor use, it might be good to mirror the image. Also I can think of some public display cases that might use a mirror to show the screen? Some old CRT cabinets used mirrors to show the image. Drop in replacements? Anyhow, not for the home use, but lots of uses come to mind ^^
I still use my tiny AliExpress monitor, similar to the one you featured laat year. It only has VGA and composite, but it's great for meetups!
two that I know off that can be an option:
Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP - 1600x1200 4:3 - VGA, DVI, Composite and S-Video inputs
Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 1920x1200 16:10 - VGA, 2x DVI, HDMI, Displayport, Composite, S-Video and Component
Had the 2408 myself and was a great monitor, though a bit bulky (CCFL rather than LED backlight)
I have an old HP f2304, one of the first 16:10 PC monitors (cost $2,000 new!) with a native res of 1920x1200. My first LCD monitor, and it has VGA, DVI, Component and S-Video, along with RCA, 3.5mm line-in and headphone jack for audio outputs. No RF or Composite video unfortunately, but it came with a composite to S-video adapter. The manual says it supports down to 480i, and I don't have any equipment to test 240p or other old modes.
It was a good versatile monitor for its time.. besides the motion blur. Going from a CRT to old LCDs never felt good because of the slow pixel response time, but it was serviceable. I'd still be using it as a retro display as it scales 4:3 content perfectly, unlike modern 16:9 TV format displays the PC world changed to. Maybe not 1980 retro, but more later 90's as that's what I grew up with, being a younger generation than the things normally featured on this channel.
Funny reading old reviews from 2004 and most of them giving it around average ratings, many criticizing the new "widescreen" aspect ratio. Boy the world sure changes. What I'd give for a HFR (120+Hz) 16:10 (or the non-existent 21:10 after upgrading to 21:9) monitor nowadays...
Still crazy to think that display technology from over 50 years ago has been superior to modern display tech in a number of ways.. though with OLED becoming more and more widespread at higher refresh rates, we might finally be able to say that current tech is about equal to CRT's performance, ignoring digital "HDR" color and all that.
I got pretty lucky to pick up a Samsung Syncmacter 711MP TV. This is pretty similar fare to whats shown here, 4:3 size... handles PAL and NTSC composite, S-video, VGA and while we dont get component, we do get SCART :)
The power supply is also internal, so it just connects to power using an IEC cable
A lot of these early HD LCD displays have that 240p over component limitation. PS2 owners that wanted to play PS1 discs (Or the PS2 game Ico that rendered in 240p) over component to their new tv often were discovering this back in the early to mid 2000's.
The mirror settings are interesting... the only thing that comes to mind for that use is maybe if you use it in something like a teleprompter you would be viewing the TV via a mirror... so it could potentially take the 'mirror' image and correct it. Thats the only use case that comes to mind for me at least.
N and M refer to different CCIR television systems-these are actually the proper names for different combinations of line count, refresh rate, channel width, etc. PAL NTSC and SECAM properly only refer to the color encoding. N is the television system used in Argentina, Uruguay, and Paraguay. It differs from European System B/G/I etc primarily in being more compatible with North American Teletext. System M is the black and white standard used in North America and most "NTSC" countries. However in Brazil they went with PAL colo encoding, so PAL-M is compatible with them. PAL 60 is a weird hack used by some later model European BCRs to play back NTSC tape. The sixth generation game consoles are capayof outputting PAL 60 as well.
The mirror setting might be good as a drop in arcade replacement... some of those used reflections in their cabinet design. Kind of a neat feature.
Cool. I have a few similar type 4:3 LCD's that are great for retro computers and consoles.
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PIP on older displays works only with OTA/Tuner channels.
That Sharp LCD has a UK / European counterpart with a full RGB SCART connector. Does a decent job of auto centring on on arcade PCBs (but not R-Type...)
A 15Khz capable input LCD panel is my grail right now.
I do have a Hyundai HL700MT monitor that has DVI, VGA, S-video, Composite inputs w 4:3 17" screen. It just won't take a 15Khz RGB input. It has a 8 pin plug for external TV tuner, but I have no pinouts or schematics
I picked up the bigger 18" i think version of the sharp a few months ago. What sold me was the go handle.
I used to have that Magnavox. I kept it long after it's screen size was vastly eclipsed by my other monitors and TVs just because of its input capabilities. I think its finally gone, it was living in my parents garage for a few years. It wasn't a bad little screen, but little was the key issue. 15" wasn't useful to me for more than occasionally repairing an old pc for someone when I didn't want to drag it over to my desk. I have old LCD TVs that have the same input stack and they go all the way to 1080p which was just more useful.
Potentially of interest, the EDTV designation in North America basically meant that a TV could natively display 480p on its component input. Unlike the HDTV designation, the tuner didn't have to support the improved capabilities too, but some did. In the case of your Sharp TV, it looks like it only includes a normal analogue NTSC tuner. It appears its native panel resolution is 640x480 pixels. When new, it had a rated brightness of 430cd/m2, so I suspect the backlight CCFL tube(s) have degraded significantly, and it might be an interesting project to replace them. I worked in consumer electronics retail when these things were new, and I remember that EDTV flat panel TVs tended to have a much cleaner image than HDTV/HD Ready flat panel models when dealing with 480i and 480p sources. The upscaling on all but the highest end LCD and plasma HD sets was pretty awful at the time.
Unfortunately a lot of these won't actually accept a standard VGA 640x480 signal even though that's the native resolution of the panel.
Often then will only accept something with EDTV timings which can result in image issues.
"480p" is actually a completely useless designation in a lot of ways as it can mean numerous different resolutions.
Dells 2001fp was a really nice monitor when it came out, I had to save for months back when it came out but it was a major leap up from my 19" crt I had at the time.
I had a Philips 17PF8946/37 LCD that looks very similar. It would display 15khz signals on the VGA port, including interlace with a little jitter. The image however was a little bit soft, I prefer a bit sharper. Oddly, it had an "HD" mode that would sharpen the image somewhat.
i have a 15inch Beko lcd and your comment about image quality is correct, compared to a crt of the same size the image is really poor, i only got it because it was sat in a charity shop for £5 without remote, which i had to purchase as the tv would turn on but the only button on it was for power. i picked it up because i felt sorry for it and i reckoned if i hadnt taken it, it would have been thrown away, not the greatest image quality but too good to throw away as it is handy as a test monitor for my collection of consoles etc.
Might look at a Samsung Syncmaster 2333hd. When I moved off CRT (22in NEC Multisync), I went with that monitor and it supports VGA/DVI/Component/2 Hdmi and a few others. It was a few years back but I have seen em in the Salem goodwills on occasion so hopefully at one of the bajillion ones in Portland or maybe freegeek..
i really recommend on both of these you should check them for bad or venting capacitors as they were made during the time of the capacitor plague and tend to die due to the failure of bad capacitor’s i had that same Magnavox TV and lost it due to bad caps
Long ago I had my mom get a 19" Sharp Aquos like that, and put it on a VESA wall mount by the kitchen table. Unfortunately the handle/base went missing, hopefully somewhere in the attic, but I have tried to look for it with no luck. We got it at a home theater store, and its picture practically shone from across a room. It's got a really nice panel. If I ever find it again, I'll try to see what modes it can do.
The reflection feature is to be used on barber shops so everybody can see the TV looking at the mirror. Usually who is waiting is facing the mirror and who is having the hair cut also.
I had a Phillips UK, widescreen version of that Magnavox monitor. I was working at RadioShack at the time and a couple had moved here from the UK and wanted to see if it would work. I hooked it up to our demo system to see if it was multi system or not, but nay. The tuner was PAL only.
They ended up selling it to me for like $50 because it had RGB scart and VGA, and was great for playing my videogames on. Ordered a scart cable for my SNES, GameCube, PS2 and Dreamcast.
I remember my gf powering up Phantasy Star Online for the first time and hearing her mid-complaint about why I spent money on a TV, "I don't know why - Oh. That looks really good...."
Later, it was her idea to get a large (32 inches! Oh my!) HDTV and PS3 for Blu-ray.....
I have to go with Sharp since they partner ship with Nintendo back in the day and I thought it was pretty cool. So I imagine hooking this up on my GameCube and the picture will look great
You would be surprised by how many people still use RF on a television.
Here in the UK, we still use RF for antennas to get digital TV. Channels like the BBC and ITV can be picked and and watched via FR and most of us still have a television antenna on our roofs
I bought one of the first LCD TVs I saw years ago - a Niko. I think I ordered it from B&H Photo at the time. I'd never heard of Niko before, and have never seen anything from them since. But I still have it. In fact it's mounted on the wall over my workbench for testing old computers. Works pretty well, tho I haven't tried putting it thru it's paces like you did here. I do know that 80 column mode on the Coco III looks horrible, but that's probably more due to the Coco not really supporting that thru composite. I think you have to use its RBG out for that to be legible.
Might be worth testing if the Game setting has lower lag than the Standard mode.
I didn't but I can 100% say this wasn't a thing until recent TVs. No one cared about lag on LCD TVs back in the 2000s, so it wasn't something manufacturers tried to remedy. Those modes simply change the image processing, like those "audio modes" on AV receivers.
Always interesting, thank you.
Yes, good LCD monitors that will properly sync to 15Khz are like gold dust. Older portable LCD TV's with SCART are much easier to find, if not always of great quality and of course aren't common in the US. I found one source of good 15Khz compatible LCD monitors is graphic design companies looking to upgrade - often such older monitors have loads of inputs and will lock on to just about any source. (not always!) They can be pricey, even s/h.
PS: I've never come across a half-decent projector that won't latch on to any signal if it has the inputs to carry it either natively or by adaptor.
Excellent comparison.
The menu on the magnavox had clock and phase for the adjustment settings, that might have helped with the 15khz signal jitter issue.
The main differences between PAL, PAL-M, and PAL-N are the number of scanlines (525 for PAL-M, 625 for the others) and the amount of bandwidth the video signal uses per TV channel (7MHz for PAL, 6MHz for the other two). For use with a European computer outputting PAL, you'd want plain old PAL.
For Goodwill, the pricing difference will be if it has the RF connector. If it does not you can often find them for under $20. If it does, I've seen them priced from as low as $25 to as high as $75, no matter how bad of a TV it actually is.
I have the exact same Magnavox TV I got at Salvation Army for $5. It's decent for the $5 I paid. It doesn't support 240p on component but I used my Gobones with it and VGA in. I use it for working on arcade boards. Oh and Coleco Adam...
I also work on new and old game consoles, computers, DVD players, VCR's etc. I found a 43 in TV at Walmart open box for like $100 that I mounted on a wall. It has 4 hdmi, RF, Composite.
I also have adapters for all other inputs. I can connect pretty much anything a/v wise. As Im just using it for testing to see if a unit will display. Not concerned about how "good" it looks. Just if the a/v is working. In addition I can connect my microscope-camera and to the UA-cam to watch Adrian's Digital Basement!
my flatscreen is so old that i have to use a digital converter to use it as a tv haha
The Magnavox does have a VESA mount, if you fold up the base there are VESA screw holes on the base.
You should test 1080i on the ED TV as well. I know there are quite a few displays that won’t do 720p but will do 1080i because 1080i is a lower horizontal refresh than 720p. Got two old Sony TVs that will take a 1080i signal but refuse a 720p signal, ones a CRT and the other is an LCD
I wanted to pick up a projection screen that was like those two Sonys too. How are those for lag?
@@nou9964 I generally do not like rear projection sets. I'd stay away from those for image quality reasons. Lag is really down to the company and model. Some resolutions can have more lag than others based off whether they scale the resolution or not.
@@crestofhonor2349 Right. I had the chance to pick up a Sony one that supported those resolutions but was still 4:3, so I was thinking maybe it would be similar.
I'm a sicko who loves projection sets. lol. I'm still looking for my end game.
36:26 My old 1080p acer does a similar thing (but it's not colorful) when I try to give it 960x540 @ 75 Hz via HDMI. At some point I see the old desktop icons, my computer etc. And backlight brightness seems to affect the speed of the fading, also a flashlight seems to affect it. Even shining colored leds to it left slightly different colored spots, IIRC. No flaws are visible in normal operation. Pretty interesting. Now I feel like I said this somewhere before.
It's such a weird effect....
Looks like the Sharp unit might be missing a cover over the input section. I have a Magnavox LCD set that is a few years older than the one you show in the video. Similar inputs but I have noticed that the input section for the RF section is modular which leads me to believe that the chassis is universal and the tuner is changeable for different regions in the world. Only issue is that I now have an audio issue which makes me believe there are bad capacitors in the audio amp section.
Another potential with HDMI adapters is HDCP content protection. Some consumer devices are inflexible whereas a PC will work since it isn't dedicated to playing copyrighted material.
I have a Panasonice monitor like that sharp hooked up to my Atari 2600 !
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I know it will never happen but I would love it if one of the TV manufactures come out with a 13 or 15 inch 4:3 OLED.
My personal favorite is the Sharp LC-15SH1E. This old beast is one of the best I have ever seen. It handles the composite and s-video signals of my Atari 8-bit computers very well and these Ataris are known to have a difficult video signal. It is multi format and switches automatically (which I think you should read up on it, because you are making the wrong conclusions about a.o. PAL-M and PAL-60)
I have an old 15" 4:3 russian Shivaki STV-15L2 monitor from 2006, and, I guess, it would be a decent thing too. It has everything - VGA, SCART, AV, composite and component video inputs, and in PC mode (in which i use it for about 15 years or so) it supports up to 1080p@60 but I never really used it like that. It also supports PAL and NTSC modes without any issues, and for my eyes it don't have so big input lag, maybe, input lag on this monitor is just like an input lag on new IPS displays or so...
I have a tv like that and I use it for my console mvs unit with component and it looks amazing, I don’t even use any scaler, but look for the ones that don’t have hdmi, if it has hdmi is not good
my bedroom tv is an AOC which can double as a computer screen with its vga and audio inputs, and i used it for that for a little while when my win xp toshiba laptop screen was broke, i eventually replaced the screen.
Mirror option for those bed ridden can be rolled over and still watch while the TV is in a fixed position
I remember very old upright arcade machines had the CRT in the bottom firing upwards into a mirror screen, so maybe that could be one reason for the mirror option?
I have a Magnavox LCD like that, it's great for my C64 (s-video connection) or my modified Nintendo (does component video now :) )
It's good to see a video of TVs like these posted, but the crucial test, game console display, ignores what the TVs are designed for to the point that viewers come away with an inaccurate representation of their capabilities.
If you look in the manual for the Sharp, it doesn't say anywhere that it accepts 240p signal. If you look at the specs and manuals for more LCDs of this era you'll notice the same lack of support for 240p. If you stray from spec use, of course your picture will look wonky.
These need to be tested with either 480i or 480p to get a truly accurate idea of the results they can produce. Just because it doesn't support 240p doesn't mean it's bad for gaming--it just means you should use 6th-gen consoles that output 480i (PS2) or 480p (99% of Xbox games, most Gamecube games).
Read specs and follow them. If the TV still doesn't perform well, then you know for sure.
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I get 300 views on some of my videos too -- in 5 years. 😄
i picked up a 1080p 22 inch Vizio tv for 12.00 the other day at a local thrift store. has 2 hdmi, component, vga, RF and composite inputs, its only missing Svideo, and the speakers are terrible quality and 1 seems to be blown or has a faulty connection. but is has a 3.5mm audio headphone jack so i just plugged in some PC speakers which give way better quality sound that the weak tinny sounding ones it has lol. i feel the picture is a bit soft, but im not gonna complain too much for this price and capability. plus my LG remote for my bluray player works with Vizio products
My optometrist runs eye charts on a calibrated monitor to a mirror in the front of the exam room, so that would be at least one case for Mirror.
The magnovox one is used as a prop in the Dinner Party episode of The Office. Michael brags of his "new Plasma screen TV" (even though it's an LCD)
and the camera slowly zooms out to reveal the tiny little thing, mounted on the wall, in a big living room (which implies your model is slightly different (no vesa mount), but it might just be they ziptied it or something to the wall or something
He then remarks, when his girlfriend throws a trophy at it, "that's a 200 dollar plasma tv you just broke!"
I'd like to know how well these TVs handle non-standard video signals. Some early devices really cut corners on video hardware to reduce cost and put out non-standard signals which work OK with CRTs but not with some LCDs.
AKA Adrian's analog attic. ^-^
Looking them up, PAL M and N seem to be south american variants on the format, made to be more compatible with NTSC to make conversion from their northern neighbours easier I guess, M being more to the original 625/50 form, and N more towards 525/60 NTSC form, both being far more technical than my head can understand... :P
I have good one for you. Samsung 910MP. It's a 1280x1024 monitor/TV (monitor mode actually acts like a monitor) that has VGA (plus 3.5mm line in audio), SCART, Composite, S-video (with RCA audio), and a PAL-style RF (antenna) connector. I don't remember if the non-scart TV hookups are NTSC, PAL, or both. USA/Canada model... can run on 120V or 240V, 50-60Hz. Manufactured in 2005.
While normally I wouldn't pay money for an old LCD like that (let alone 15 bux), it's an odd one that I think was worth saving?. I haven't used it on anything yet...
I noticed the movie mode on the Sharp is darker so the standard mode probably keeps the black level higher so you can see it in a sunny room.
I know people have said before, but you’re not meant to see all three black bars. You’re only supposed to see two. Seeing all three is the sign that you have the black level too high! Seeing only one means it’s too low. The Magnavox one in the video _just barely_ shows two, so I’d probably raise the black level a little bit so they’re more distinct, but all three is definitely too high.
Hello Adrian, I was wondering if you've taken a look at a Dell 2007FPb? Apparently this monitor have developed a cult following. I was hoping you have an opinion on this monitor.
I have a huge widescreen version of that maganvox
the first hdmo to vga converter you tried probably went into HDCP protection
Might have -- it's odd though as both are the same brand, so one might think they would behave the same. The first didn;t support audio output, so maybe the player didn't like that?
@@adriansdigitalbasement2 As far as I'm aware, the powered hmdi adaptor is more for boosting the VGA signal so that it can run down longer cable runs. I use these in rooms where the PC is metres away from the ceiling mounted projector, and the unpowered adaptors just can't get the range. I do find with these cheap adaptors you can get duff ones, though I also find quite often that a single cable within the black box has broken away from PCB as I don't think they're even hot glued down.
Nice video! Thanks! I am just looking a TV for retrogaming (for Sega MD2). I saw on UA-cam gamers playing on Sharp LC-15S4U-S with Famicom (8 bit).. The picture was good (i didn't see any difference between this TV and big CRT ones) and there wasn't input lag I think! It's very important for me! I have now Sony Bravia KDL-20S2030 but I don't like the picture honestly and there is some small input lag... I found SHARP sharp aquos lc-20s5e. How do you think: it will be better option compering with my Sony for Sega MD2? Thanks in advance!
Maybe use it with a see trough mirror for a teleprompter?
I still haven't understood why in the USA you have discarded the scart rgb
I’d be interested to see how the conversion lag affects demoscene effects from the Apple IIGS and Amiga that would rely on raster interrupts. Would they end up “jittery” or simply not work at all and look like a scrambled mess?
I have a 1084S Monitor that I use with my A1200. I also use it for my C64, Atari 800XL through the yellow video port. What is the black port for? Never used it.
I wonder how many driver chipsets were available to manufacturers of these sets. I doubt too many companies baked their own.
I have a similar sharp tv i git from goodwill for 10usd with the back covers. Mine has an unpopulated vga port on the pcb driver board i been thinking about populating it is that a difficult task
Wait a minute... what kind of content did you have on that DVD/BluRay that you had to blur the screen in post? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????
ive run into the issue of displays misinterpreting 480i as 240p a few times
Recently i found nice small tv for about 20$
It has 13 inch 16:10 so it looks tiny, with resolution 1280x800
It has:
Scart
AV
Component
Analog tuner
VGA
HDMI
More less everything i could ever need for this kind of TV
I have a Samsung multi format analog LCD monitor that supports a VGA native 1280x1024 and has a composite and scart inputs. Wanna get breakouts to let me use component and RGB inputs for it.
Aren’t there some CRT artifacts that some games depended on? Or at the very least I though retro stuff looked quite different on an LCD
hows this compare to old lcd pvms like the Panasonic BT LH series? pretty on par?
When you tried to change the input on the magnavox you were in the wrong menu. What you were doing was changing the settings (below the input) for the different inputs. OR at least that's how I interpret it, I might be wrong.
Ok you addressed it right after, my bad. :)