Agreed, thanks Wigg!! I came across your podcast a few weeks ago and it’s my favorite out of all the others. Some are good, but your sober and thoughtful analysis is top-tier 👌👌 I’d just like to add an observation/contrast I saw during the post-game interviews- Andre Cisco straight up called it out and said that their was too much quit on the field. Then I’m Doug Pederson’s speech/press conference he said he feels bad for the guys/players and that they don’t quit. 😐😐 One of the 2 is living in reality and the other… mannnnn, if the HC can’t see it, there’s no hope, Imo
At this point going like 3-14 is better than 8-9 or 9-8, would rather get a high draft pick than try to win games to not make the playoffs and lose out on someone like Will Johnson or Will Campbell, even Travis Hunter if they want him
Hello everyone! I'm not a Jags fan, so this is an opinion with zero emotion attached: Trevor oozes talent, but he's not a fiery guy. I think this works against the team when things start to go south and they need someone to lead them out of a funk. Pederson is not a fiery guy. You cant have two guys like that leading the team. I'm sure there are many things to fix, but I think their next coach should be a fiery culture guy. No one should ask trevor to be something he's not, so getting that vibe and fire from the headcoach would solve this issue. Everyone looks flat and broken right now, and then you look at the QB and headcoach and they have this face : 😐. I think a fiery coach would get everyone around trevor to play with more juice, which in turn will make trevor better
Basically someone needs to get passed and chew some ass, instead we talk about our favorite ice cream and tell everyone we are not physical enough! Fix it! That's why you get paid millions of dollars! Fix it!
josh allen does it with no wrs… the trevor excuses need to stop elite qbs elevate average players lawrence is not elite he’s not even good he’s average
As a Lions fan I watched 50 years of this stuff but on a different team. It didn't get better until the owner hired the right people. How did that happen? The owner asked real football people for advice and then LISTENED. I never believed the Lions could be a good team until I saw the changes.
Kahn is #1 problem. He has to bring in the same consulting firm that Washington did to identify a new GM and new HC. Pedersen has lost this team. The team has given up.
I stopped watching the game. I got up early for no reason. Its embarrassing when my friends and family ask who won and i said idk cause i am not wasting another hour on this beautiful sunday to then be moody all day cause we lost. Look at how tampa responded to the saints taking the lead on them. Baker threw like 3 or 4 interceptions. And if you look at the score you wouldnt think they turned it over at all. 51 to 27. Insane.
Yep, and then Pederson came out and said he feels bad for the players and they don’t quit. I’m sorry- what?!?! I don’t know if Doug is too much of a “players coach” or if he’s just delusional at this point. Props to Andre for calling as he sees it 👏👏
Commit to the tank, move players on and take all the cap hits this year. Cam, scherf, lloyd, davis, armstead, cisco Coach wants to see you, bring your play book
The jaguars had a chance but hired urban Meyer the worse coach in NFL history and one of the worse GM I ever seen Trent baalke,they hired Ryan Nielsen who is one of the worst dc I ever seen,Mike Caldwell was way better we have a terrible front office it's been this way for 20 years
Throw a blank check at Ben Johnson to be the Head Coach. Coming from the lions and seeing how that organization is ran and what standard they’re held to, I don’t think there’s a better person to come in and start laying a new foundation for the team
The defense is falling apart but they played solid in they last 15 + games minus the San Francisco blowout from last year the buffalo game and this game in London...all the other games it was the offense letting the defense down .. when u constantly getting to the Red zone and turn the ball over higher than any team in the Red zone..the defense is getting impatient but giving up when the offense can't deliver and why should they? This is just like the sacksonville breakdown and now Roy Robertson is gone this was a leader and trust me Andre Cisco is mostly on his way out.... Trayvon will not be here when his contract is up.... Etienne time in Jacksonville looks slim with tank taking over and trying to make Etienne a receiving back... I love the jags but I feel it's coming...that Etienne fumble in the end zone really set the tone for the season....the Cleveland game was supposed to be a W and that texans game was heartbreaking... This team is broken
What's happened to this team so far this year ? Every year prior to this one, they've been really progressing and moving up into playoff contention. It's the same players and coaches ... What's happened ? It's like they've been cursed by Blackbeard the Pirate.
Guys, after watching Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud, Trevor just ain’t that guy. All these guys were drafted to the worst teams the year prior. Trevor is a regular average, below average QB with no dog in him. His aw shucks, by golly attitude matters. You have to be a leader and call teammates out and have that dog in you. But we all know what’s gonna happen. We gonna pass on QB in draft b/c we stuck with Trevor contract and draft another bust irrelevant player and the insanity continues.
The problem is Shad. How can you hold a Owner accountable? Can’t force him to sell the team. He’s still making money when we lose. People can not show up to games I suppose. A lot of people still will show up though. Unless Shad decides to make a change we are screwed and prob still screwed after that because he will more than likely make the wrong choices again.
Yep, the Indy game was not something to gauge this time by. Indy is not very good, and were even more depleted. I was happy with the win, BUT wasn't impressed.
The worst part were the expectations. This was going to be the best year in franchise history. Last year was a fluke and we were going to start where we left off in 2022. At least that was the plan. Best players and best coaches, remember? But change in the NFL happens fast. Now we have rookie QB's playing better than our "generational talent". Worse yet is no one has any answers, "we just need to play football". Well that's the problem, you have and are terrible. Trevor doesn't show true leadership qualities, nor does the head coach. Just excuses. No answers.
Players come and go….the truth is we are the best fans in the league DTWD is how we live. If our players played like we care/love we’d never lose a game. Duval y’all are great….even if the team ain’t!
And now theyre shipping out the players who acknowledge the problems, and label them as toxic... smh... theyre burning down the house before they get fired...
The owner needs to sell the team, to someone who know football... clean house and bring in guys that can move that needle.. this is the most disgusting, disorient team in the NFL... we was just a playoff team 2 years ago.. we was right there!! like WTF is hapenning.
What your saying is facts what killing the game is the CBA, I have said it for years, the organization is afraid of being reported to the nfl for abuse, players getting hurt the game has suffered, until that is dealt with your gonna have soft players all over the league,
The Jaguars have been broken since 2011. It’s been the same story every year except 2017 and 2022 when the rest of the AFC South was decimated. There’s no hope to be had here.
I hate to say it but shad Kahn should of sold this team to la but I honestly believe shad Kahn did exactly what he wanted and that was to build downtown Jacksonville he doesn't care about winning I never heard shad Kahn mention anything about winning a Superbowl.
Bring in a defensive minded coach/GM start being the team that will beat you up again. Jacksonville is not a finesse town. Lawrence would do just fine in a team that is run focused and does a lot of play action passing
Bad franchises will ruin 50 QBs before a QB will sink a franchise. This franchise has done Trevor no favors(although he hasn't been superman), from the Myer Era, to keeping Baalke around, to leading the NFL in quickest colapsing pocket in 2023 and having the most points lost due to drops in the NFL going on almost 2 years in a row now, and nothing but seemingly paper weak defenses. But don't worry, Baalke got 'Big Long guys'. Jags gonna Jag.
Get rid of the General Manager. He's always been a problem with every org he's stepped into. He's made life on teh coaches, hell and we picked him up after SF49's learned the lesson.
The fact that they said this was the best jags team couldn't be far from the truth. Just look at all the free agents they got. None of there original team wanted anymore. Savage below average in greenbay gabe davis was playing as #2 which hes really a #3 airk armstead was in a better system with better players around him. Darby is getting beat constantly Baltimore gladly let him walk no where did they get better
Let's not forget what was said in his introductory presser as the new head coach just 2 years ago. How are you going to build a winner when coaches don't have time to build? if we get rid of him now we will be bottom feeders for a very long time and he will go to another team and build a winner. Mr. Khan should have been introducing a New GM as well in this presser 2yrs ago. ua-cam.com/video/TKB0EyTAWyk/v-deo.html
Season is over, bench lawrence and name Mac Jones as starter for the rest of the season, team needs a new Tom Coughlin to bring leadership and discipline
@@BMoney77 play calling is often bad… when they have success they usually turn the ship around and start doing things that won’t work weird how lawrence has not thrown for over 400 once
Wiggins. Thanks for delivering a great podcast consistently. Absolutely, the only good thing about the Jaguars is this podcast. 👌
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Agreed, thanks Wigg!! I came across your podcast a few weeks ago and it’s my favorite out of all the others. Some are good, but your sober and thoughtful analysis is top-tier 👌👌
I’d just like to add an observation/contrast I saw during the post-game interviews- Andre Cisco straight up called it out and said that their was too much quit on the field.
Then I’m Doug Pederson’s speech/press conference he said he feels bad for the guys/players and that they don’t quit.
😐😐
One of the 2 is living in reality and the other… mannnnn, if the HC can’t see it, there’s no hope, Imo
I bet Caldwell is dying laughing right now! 😂😂😂
I was thinking that too😂
Why would he laugh? He was dog shit too lol.
He was clearly the better defensive coordinator.
🤔 😂 😅
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I am fine with Firing everyone...but at the same time - THESE PLAYERS have REALLY let us down.
Players don't like you players don't play. That's it.
@@cysmcaleb8411 if they are willing to put out BAD TAPE of themselves - then "F"'em!
At this point going like 3-14 is better than 8-9 or 9-8, would rather get a high draft pick than try to win games to not make the playoffs and lose out on someone like Will Johnson or Will Campbell, even Travis Hunter if they want him
This would surely guarentee Khan cleans house too
In the future ima demand that the phrase generational talent gets wiped from the lexicon.
Please explain this ridiculous label that the media vomited into the public ear called "generational talent". They're useless buzz words
Always hated this way of thinking, just a quitter mentality. Win no matter what. Earlier picks aren't always worth it.
I would say most of the top pics are trash, and the great talent is always later. I would trade our pic for multiple pics.
The Trent Baalke impression absolutely killed me
Honestly, about the only thing positive about being a jags fan at the moment is this podcast.
😂😂😂
Hello everyone! I'm not a Jags fan, so this is an opinion with zero emotion attached: Trevor oozes talent, but he's not a fiery guy. I think this works against the team when things start to go south and they need someone to lead them out of a funk. Pederson is not a fiery guy. You cant have two guys like that leading the team. I'm sure there are many things to fix, but I think their next coach should be a fiery culture guy. No one should ask trevor to be something he's not, so getting that vibe and fire from the headcoach would solve this issue. Everyone looks flat and broken right now, and then you look at the QB and headcoach and they have this face : 😐. I think a fiery coach would get everyone around trevor to play with more juice, which in turn will make trevor better
Basically someone needs to get passed and chew some ass, instead we talk about our favorite ice cream and tell everyone we are not physical enough! Fix it! That's why you get paid millions of dollars! Fix it!
Never seen the jags secondary look this bad and Tyson Campbell wont solve the issues they have
DET is PHYSICAL...BALT is PHYSICAL....HOU is PHYSICAL....Jags are SOFT both physically and MENTALLY
Very soft it’s cause they culture soft
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That's exactly my point! I totally agree with you
Im now working overtime on Sundays
😂😂 Good Idea!
Shad will not fill this new stadium with this team in ruin !
i keep going back to “urban meyer wouldn’t have this team playing that soft “
The Jags need Mike Vrabel or Brian Flores as head coach. Need a coach with some grit and toughness.
on the bright side at least my sundays are open now
Hire Bill Belichick as the GM.
Hire Ben Johnson as the HC.
BB can't draft that's why he left New England. BB the GM screwed BB the HC.
Ben Johnson as HC can get right onboard with that though
@@harryalfie7finally someone with a non-casual take on BB.
You nailed it again. Someone send this to Shad.
Damn right we're tired, great show
Travis Hunter and Tyson Campbell could be a good duo.
Tyson can't ever stay healthy had 1 good season after that he on the bench more then the field and older he get the more he will get hurt
Enjoy your analysis....raw and honest
josh allen does it with no wrs… the trevor excuses need to stop
elite qbs elevate average players
lawrence is not elite he’s not even good he’s average
@bortlestheboat Average? That is a compliment.
@@MrIcognegro lololol you right you right
receivers need to catch the ball, how many drops have we seen?
@@Jimamania 🛑 yes they need to catch more balls but trevor just like is not a winning qb
I counted 3 dropped tds Sunday by kirk gabe and btj. @@Jimamania
As a Lions fan I watched 50 years of this stuff but on a different team. It didn't get better until the owner hired the right people. How did that happen? The owner asked real football people for advice and then LISTENED. I never believed the Lions could be a good team until I saw the changes.
Marshmallows don’t sharpen each other lmao
Kahn is #1 problem. He has to bring in the same consulting firm that Washington did to identify a new GM and new HC.
Pedersen has lost this team.
The team has given up.
I stopped watching the game. I got up early for no reason. Its embarrassing when my friends and family ask who won and i said idk cause i am not wasting another hour on this beautiful sunday to then be moody all day cause we lost. Look at how tampa responded to the saints taking the lead on them. Baker threw like 3 or 4 interceptions. And if you look at the score you wouldnt think they turned it over at all. 51 to 27. Insane.
Wigg preaching today 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️😤🚨
AMEN!!!!!
I knew it was over this year when I seen Cisco say all he seen was ‘a lot of quit’
Yep, and then Pederson came out and said he feels bad for the players and they don’t quit. I’m sorry- what?!?! I don’t know if Doug is too much of a “players coach” or if he’s just delusional at this point. Props to Andre for calling as he sees it 👏👏
5:12 Trent and Doug swore up and down after 2022 that they were strong/physical enough. The switch up those 2 have each year is crazy
Soon as madden 25 goes on sale im gonna go and do what Trent couldn’t do
Commit to the tank, move players on and take all the cap hits this year.
Cam, scherf, lloyd, davis, armstead, cisco
Coach wants to see you, bring your play book
Right
The jaguars had a chance but hired urban Meyer the worse coach in NFL history and one of the worse GM I ever seen Trent baalke,they hired Ryan Nielsen who is one of the worst dc I ever seen,Mike Caldwell was way better we have a terrible front office it's been this way for 20 years
Start trading assets - Kirk, Etienne, Little, Cam Robinson, Lloyd, Foye, Engram, ect..
In being very kind and generous because of our division we’re probably looking at a 6-11 season. DTWD
Thank you Wiggs.
Time to bring back the Baguars.
Throw a blank check at Ben Johnson to be the Head Coach. Coming from the lions and seeing how that organization is ran and what standard they’re held to, I don’t think there’s a better person to come in and start laying a new foundation for the team
yeah , ... its just about time !
Not 71 year old quarterback 😂😂😂 Wigg be high key wildin sometimes
Jags battling Patriots next week for the #1 draft pick🧐
we need that draft pick we’re a few pieces away from being great
The defense is falling apart but they played solid in they last 15 + games minus the San Francisco blowout from last year the buffalo game and this game in London...all the other games it was the offense letting the defense down .. when u constantly getting to the Red zone and turn the ball over higher than any team in the Red zone..the defense is getting impatient but giving up when the offense can't deliver and why should they? This is just like the sacksonville breakdown and now Roy Robertson is gone this was a leader and trust me Andre Cisco is mostly on his way out.... Trayvon will not be here when his contract is up.... Etienne time in Jacksonville looks slim with tank taking over and trying to make Etienne a receiving back... I love the jags but I feel it's coming...that Etienne fumble in the end zone really set the tone for the season....the Cleveland game was supposed to be a W and that texans game was heartbreaking... This team is broken
What's happened to this team so far this year ? Every year prior to this one, they've been really progressing and moving up into playoff contention. It's the same players and coaches ... What's happened ? It's like they've been cursed by Blackbeard the Pirate.
Guys, after watching Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud, Trevor just ain’t that guy. All these guys were drafted to the worst teams the year prior. Trevor is a regular average, below average QB with no dog in him. His aw shucks, by golly attitude matters. You have to be a leader and call teammates out and have that dog in you. But we all know what’s gonna happen. We gonna pass on QB in draft b/c we stuck with Trevor contract and draft another bust irrelevant player and the insanity continues.
God bless everyone. They are out of excuses.
The problem is Shad. How can you hold a Owner accountable? Can’t force him to sell the team. He’s still making money when we lose. People can not show up to games I suppose. A lot of people still will show up though. Unless Shad decides to make a change we are screwed and prob still screwed after that because he will more than likely make the wrong choices again.
Yep, the Indy game was not something to gauge this time by. Indy is not very good, and were even more depleted. I was happy with the win, BUT wasn't impressed.
The worst part were the expectations. This was going to be the best year in franchise history. Last year was a fluke and we were going to start where we left off in 2022. At least that was the plan. Best players and best coaches, remember? But change in the NFL happens fast. Now we have rookie QB's playing better than our "generational talent". Worse yet is no one has any answers, "we just need to play football". Well that's the problem, you have and are terrible. Trevor doesn't show true leadership qualities, nor does the head coach. Just excuses. No answers.
We need Harry Stamper! He never missed a depth and saved the world.
Players come and go….the truth is we are the best fans in the league DTWD is how we live. If our players played like we care/love we’d never lose a game. Duval y’all are great….even if the team ain’t!
When no one is in charge everyone is in charge!
And now theyre shipping out the players who acknowledge the problems, and label them as toxic... smh... theyre burning down the house before they get fired...
GUT it all. Fans deserve better than to watch this garbage product year over year.
The owner needs to sell the team, to someone who know football... clean house and bring in guys that can move that needle.. this is the most disgusting, disorient team in the NFL... we was just a playoff team 2 years ago.. we was right there!! like WTF is hapenning.
What your saying is facts what killing the game is the CBA, I have said it for years, the organization is afraid of being reported to the nfl for abuse, players getting hurt the game has suffered, until that is dealt with your gonna have soft players all over the league,
Looks like they started with trading away roy Robertson Harris, I hope we see some more go, bring in some toughness
I'm lost for words.
Just need a better qb rotation
The Jaguars have been broken since 2011. It’s been the same story every year except 2017 and 2022 when the rest of the AFC South was decimated. There’s no hope to be had here.
Baalke!
I hate to say it but shad Kahn should of sold this team to la but I honestly believe shad Kahn did exactly what he wanted and that was to build downtown Jacksonville he doesn't care about winning I never heard shad Kahn mention anything about winning a Superbowl.
Run of the mill "no name" starters on other teams are able to shut down our guys that WE think are GOOD.
Bring in a defensive minded coach/GM start being the team that will beat you up again. Jacksonville is not a finesse town. Lawrence would do just fine in a team that is run focused and does a lot of play action passing
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Can't move a winning team to Europe that easy, but no body misses a loosing team.
Maybe Doug ran a "country club" and players took advantage of it?
Ownership runs a country club. It's way too casual all around.
Bad franchises will ruin 50 QBs before a QB will sink a franchise. This franchise has done Trevor no favors(although he hasn't been superman), from the Myer Era, to keeping Baalke around, to leading the NFL in quickest colapsing pocket in 2023 and having the most points lost due to drops in the NFL going on almost 2 years in a row now, and nothing but seemingly paper weak defenses.
But don't worry, Baalke got 'Big Long guys'.
Jags gonna Jag.
If this was madden I’d start over with a new team
just tank and draft will or travis
Travis too little, I don’t think he’s going to be that good in the NFL
Clean slate asap! Trent has to go then everyone else the talent is being killed by the staff
got to love american sports. where losing on purpose gets rewards in the "draft".
Get rid of the General Manager. He's always been a problem with every org he's stepped into. He's made life on teh coaches, hell and we picked him up after SF49's learned the lesson.
Duuuvaaalll
GO get CORY DURDEN off RAMS practice squad. BEAST!
The fact that they said this was the best jags team couldn't be far from the truth. Just look at all the free agents they got. None of there original team wanted anymore. Savage below average in greenbay gabe davis was playing as #2 which hes really a #3 airk armstead was in a better system with better players around him. Darby is getting beat constantly Baltimore gladly let him walk no where did they get better
Beat The Patriots. Need to win this game for Mac.
They brought in too many “nice guys” not a damn dog on the team outside of Josh Allen
Let's not forget what was said in his introductory presser as the new head coach just 2 years ago. How are you going to build a winner when coaches don't have time to build? if we get rid of him now we will be bottom feeders for a very long time and he will go to another team and build a winner. Mr. Khan should have been introducing a New GM as well in this presser 2yrs ago. ua-cam.com/video/TKB0EyTAWyk/v-deo.html
How can they even make a good decision when history says they don’t have the ability to make a good decision?!?!
He won’t coach again
Season is over, bench lawrence and name Mac Jones as starter for the rest of the season, team needs a new Tom Coughlin to bring leadership and discipline
They will finish 8-3 and get that 9 wins again lol.
thinking the same thing tbh but i’m over the play calling on offense. press sucks so does his brother zach in cincy
@@bortlestheboat play calling isn’t that bad. Some of it’s predictable but the receivers are dropping balls that need to be caught.
@@bortlestheboat hahah love the screen name too lol
@@BMoney77 play calling is often bad… when they have success they usually turn the ship around and start doing things that won’t work
weird how lawrence has not thrown for over 400 once
@@bortlestheboat yeah cause his receivers keep dropping balls lol
Once Loserville,always Loserville. Duvaul is DEAD as far as the team goes. its Loserville now,and foreever.
Definitely hoping we get Saleh for HC. He’d square away this defense real quick
Saleh’s not getting a HC job for at least a few years… all for him as DC tho!
I heard Denver is interested in ETN. Let’s get that trade rolling.
No thanks
We need to put ROBERT SALEH on The PAYROLL TODAY!!!!!!
who Xerxes?
No way
Maybe as a defensive coach but not head coach
@@BibbyRozayDefensive Coordinator fasho
@@raybethel769100% cause Ryan Nelson sucks
Enjoy your analysis....raw and honest