More than 2 years for me so far, never broke a bracket, never miss an appointment, always wear the elastics, teeth kept clean. Seems like it will be 2 to 3 more months.
Hi Kevin: Some cases are more complex than others. Some people have slower tooth movement. Some cases require slower tooth movement. There are a lot of variables. In general I've found treatment with Damon Ultima braces is significantly faster in most cases. Dr. B
Hi Mori. The step-by-step treatment of this deep bite case is contained in the "Dr. Barron NESO Lecture on Damon Ultima Braces." video on this channel under the Ask The Expert category. Dr. B
Hello Dr I would like to ask you about damon ultima torque I see the numbers are different from the damon ? Is damon ultima end with same number of torque for all teeth or the number according to how I select the torque according to case ?
Hi Dr. S. Yes the Damon Ultima Torque values are different than prior versions of the System, but the principles are the same. You should select Procline (high torque) or Retrocline (low torque) according to the needs of each case. Basically if your mechanics have a tendency for the upper and lower anterior teeth to tip forward (crowded, non-extraction cases) then you would generally select Retrocline brackets for the anterior teeth. If your mechanics will have a retractive or tipping back effect on the upper and lower anterior teeth (extraction cases) then you would generally select Procline brackets for the upper and lower anterior teeth (and Procline canines, too in a bicuspid extraction case.) Class II mechanics generally select Procline brackets for the upper anterior teeth and Retrocline brackets for the lower anteriors. Class III mechanics generally select Retrocline torques for the upper anterior teeth and Procline brackets for the lower anterior teeth. Lastly, you have to consider the pre-treatment position of the roots of each of the anterior teeth. For example, a lingually blocked out upper lateral, whose root is palatal will require a Retrocline torque to provide the necessary labial root torque irrespective of the major mechanics for the case. Also, in general use caution in prescribing Retrocline brackets for lower incisors in cases with thin periodontal biotypes and labial recession. This is a mini-course in torque selection in one short response. These are general principles and clinical discretion is required. Hope that helps. Dr. B
@@barronorthodontics445 I would like to express my thanks and gratitude to you for the valuable information and for your time to deliver information accurately. This will helped me alot in my review of literature about damon ultima system especially this system doesn't has any articles I depend on the information from the book you told me (passive self lighting from A to Z book) it is really informative and also from oramco and workbook of Damon system Thank you very much
Hi Doctor, does Damon braces have lower risk of root resorption compared to conventional/traditional braces ? And does Damon braces have lower risk of relapse compared to conventional braces ? After Damon braces, do we need to wear retainer for life ?
Hi jL. Great questions. When properly applied, Low force/ Low friction braces like the Damon System do deliver less force to the teeth. This has been shown in a variety of studies. In contrast, studies have shown that heavy forces are associated with root resorption. In my 25-year experience using the Damon System I have seen very few patients with root resorption post-treatment. The few patient's that did experience some, typically had a history of prior trauma or injury to the teeth, or were treated previously with heavy force braces. As for stability, it takes many studies with large numbers of subjects to definitively make statistically valid claims about stability. Though I can say that, in my realm of experience, stability in my practice is superior to the long term results before I used the Damon System. This may have something to do with the retention procedures that I've been using since beginning the Damon System. I place bonded wire retainers on the back of the upper and lower front teeth that stay on for at least 2 years post-treatment. In addition, patients wear clear removable retainers evenings and sleeping. Dr. B
@@barronorthodontics445 thanks for the detailed explanation. So after Damon braces, do we have to wear retainer for life (every night during sleep) ? Or is it possible to reduce the frequency of wearing to maybe 1-2 nights per week after a number of years post-braces.
Hi jL: What I typically tell patients is this: The first 2 years post treatment is a critical time for stability. We'd like to leave the bonded retainer wires on and wear the clear removable retainers 10-12 hours per day, usually evenings and sleeping. After 2 years, the bonded lingual wires can be removed if the patient desires. I recommend leaving the bonded wire retainers in longer if the patient started with significant anterior crowding or spacing. Some patients prefer to leave the bonded retainers in long-term, and I'm OK with it. I tell the adolescent patients to keep wearing the removable clear retainers while sleeping through the high school years. After 2 years I instruct adults to go to two nights per week with the removable retainers, with discretion- if they start to fit tight it means teeth are trying to shift, then wear them more than two days. Long-term, years down the road, they might try 1 or 2 nights per month (with discretion.) It is a long-term "insurance policy" that teeth won't shift in any major way.
@@barronorthodontics445 i saw some people feedback that wearing retainers post braces cause them to have gum recession. What is your opinion about this ? What can we do to reduce this gum recession risk when wearing retainers ?
Hey I got my damon braces on a few days ago, I have a slight overjet at on my upper teeth and overlapping on my bottom teeth (nothing sereve) was wondering how long I will have to wear them for !
Hi Imogen: It is not possible to predict the length of treatment for a patient that I haven't seen and completed a formal diagnosis and treatment plan on. Furthermore, other factors such as patient compliance with appointments and breakage and elastic wear, or the efficiency of the providing doctor can affect the length of treatment. As the video states the average length of treatment with braces as reported in studies is around 22 months. Though there are no published studies, yet, that I am aware of to support that the Damon Ultima System can treat cases faster, in my realm of experience, which includes being one of the first group of orthodontists in the world using the system, a significant amount of cases treated in my office finish between 14 - 18 and months of treatment with the Damon Ultima System. Many will finish even sooner, especially compliant patients with less severe malocclusions. Hope that helps and good luck with your treatment! Dr. B
Second patient looks worse from the side after extractions, lower jaw is recessed, the face looks flat, I don't think this was the best treatment for her.
Hi r8222. Thank you for your comments. The anterior teeth were corrected to age, race and sex normal values. The significant bimaxillary protrusion, which was the patient's chief complaint, was reduced according to her preferences. A non-extraction approach (or no treatment at all - which was discussed) would have: a) Not addressed her chief complaint, b) left her with a significant bimaxillary protrusion, and c) left her with missing upper first bicuspids that would have required replacement with costly dental implants. Dr. B
Hi! are you able to get colors for damon braces? so far i only know that you can get colors for the power chains but what about each individual bracket?
Hi Trong. The Damon System is widely available in Asia. I know that the Damon Q brackets are used in China, Malaysia, where I have lectured and South Korea. I don't know specifically about Viet Nam. Dr. B
@@charlottesmith7539 Guten Tag, dieses System hat den Vorteil dass es innerhalb von etwa 12 Monaten durch sanfte und bestens gesteuerte Kräfte die Zähne in die beste Position bringt. So habe ich es verstanden durch Recherche.
More than 2 years for me so far, never broke a bracket, never miss an appointment, always wear the elastics, teeth kept clean. Seems like it will be 2 to 3 more months.
Hi Kevin: Some cases are more complex than others. Some people have slower tooth movement. Some cases require slower tooth movement. There are a lot of variables. In general I've found treatment with Damon Ultima braces is significantly faster in most cases.
Dr. B
@@barronorthodontics445 Ya, I like them because less pain than traditional and widen the smile, worth it!!!!!
The most important thing at least to me is that Damon Ultima is definitely the fastest option with also the best possible teeth correction.
I agree!!!@@mma48578
thanks for the video, can you please share the detailed treatment for the case with severe deepbite ?
Hi Mori. The step-by-step treatment of this deep bite case is contained in the "Dr. Barron NESO Lecture on Damon Ultima Braces." video on this channel under the Ask The Expert category.
Dr. B
Hello Dr
I would like to ask you about damon ultima torque I see the numbers are different from the damon ? Is damon ultima end with same number of torque for all teeth or the number according to how I select the torque according to case ?
Hi Dr. S. Yes the Damon Ultima Torque values are different than prior versions of the System, but the principles are the same. You should select Procline (high torque) or Retrocline (low torque) according to the needs of each case. Basically if your mechanics have a tendency for the upper and lower anterior teeth to tip forward (crowded, non-extraction cases) then you would generally select Retrocline brackets for the anterior teeth. If your mechanics will have a retractive or tipping back effect on the upper and lower anterior teeth (extraction cases) then you would generally select Procline brackets for the upper and lower anterior teeth (and Procline canines, too in a bicuspid extraction case.) Class II mechanics generally select Procline brackets for the upper anterior teeth and Retrocline brackets for the lower anteriors. Class III mechanics generally select Retrocline torques for the upper anterior teeth and Procline brackets for the lower anterior teeth. Lastly, you have to consider the pre-treatment position of the roots of each of the anterior teeth. For example, a lingually blocked out upper lateral, whose root is palatal will require a Retrocline torque to provide the necessary labial root torque irrespective of the major mechanics for the case.
Also, in general use caution in prescribing Retrocline brackets for lower incisors in cases with thin periodontal biotypes and labial recession. This is a mini-course in torque selection in one short response. These are general principles and clinical discretion is required. Hope that helps.
Dr. B
@@barronorthodontics445 I would like to express my thanks and gratitude to you for the valuable information and for your time to deliver information accurately. This will helped me alot in my review of literature about damon ultima system especially this system doesn't has any articles I depend on the information from the book you told me (passive self lighting from A to Z book) it is really informative and also from oramco and workbook of Damon system
Thank you very much
Hi Doctor, does Damon braces have lower risk of root resorption compared to conventional/traditional braces ? And does Damon braces have lower risk of relapse compared to conventional braces ? After Damon braces, do we need to wear retainer for life ?
Hi jL. Great questions. When properly applied, Low force/ Low friction braces like the Damon System do deliver less force to the teeth. This has been shown in a variety of studies. In contrast, studies have shown that heavy forces are associated with root resorption. In my 25-year experience using the Damon System I have seen very few patients with root resorption post-treatment. The few patient's that did experience some, typically had a history of prior trauma or injury to the teeth, or were treated previously with heavy force braces. As for stability, it takes many studies with large numbers of subjects to definitively make statistically valid claims about stability. Though I can say that, in my realm of experience, stability in my practice is superior to the long term results before I used the Damon System. This may have something to do with the retention procedures that I've been using since beginning the Damon System. I place bonded wire retainers on the back of the upper and lower front teeth that stay on for at least 2 years post-treatment. In addition, patients wear clear removable retainers evenings and sleeping.
Dr. B
@@barronorthodontics445 thanks for the detailed explanation. So after Damon braces, do we have to wear retainer for life (every night during sleep) ? Or is it possible to reduce the frequency of wearing to maybe 1-2 nights per week after a number of years post-braces.
Hi jL: What I typically tell patients is this: The first 2 years post treatment is a critical time for stability. We'd like to leave the bonded retainer wires on and wear the clear removable retainers 10-12 hours per day, usually evenings and sleeping. After 2 years, the bonded lingual wires can be removed if the patient desires. I recommend leaving the bonded wire retainers in longer if the patient started with significant anterior crowding or spacing. Some patients prefer to leave the bonded retainers in long-term, and I'm OK with it. I tell the adolescent patients to keep wearing the removable clear retainers while sleeping through the high school years. After 2 years I instruct adults to go to two nights per week with the removable retainers, with discretion- if they start to fit tight it means teeth are trying to shift, then wear them more than two days. Long-term, years down the road, they might try 1 or 2 nights per month (with discretion.) It is a long-term "insurance policy" that teeth won't shift in any major way.
@@barronorthodontics445 i saw some people feedback that wearing retainers post braces cause them to have gum recession. What is your opinion about this ? What can we do to reduce this gum recession risk when wearing retainers ?
@@jL-zc4bw Properly fabricated and properly fitting retainers will not cause recession.
Hey I got my damon braces on a few days ago, I have a slight overjet at on my upper teeth and overlapping on my bottom teeth (nothing sereve) was wondering how long I will have to wear them for !
Hi Imogen: It is not possible to predict the length of treatment for a patient that I haven't seen and completed a formal diagnosis and treatment plan on. Furthermore, other factors such as patient compliance with appointments and breakage and elastic wear, or the efficiency of the providing doctor can affect the length of treatment. As the video states the average length of treatment with braces as reported in studies is around 22 months. Though there are no published studies, yet, that I am aware of to support that the Damon Ultima System can treat cases faster, in my realm of experience, which includes being one of the first group of orthodontists in the world using the system, a significant amount of cases treated in my office finish between 14 - 18 and months of treatment with the Damon Ultima System. Many will finish even sooner, especially compliant patients with less severe malocclusions.
Hope that helps and good luck with your treatment!
Dr. B
Second patient looks worse from the side after extractions, lower jaw is recessed, the face looks flat, I don't think this was the best treatment for her.
Hi r8222. Thank you for your comments. The anterior teeth were corrected to age, race and sex normal values. The significant bimaxillary protrusion, which was the patient's chief complaint, was reduced according to her preferences. A non-extraction approach (or no treatment at all - which was discussed) would have: a) Not addressed her chief complaint, b) left her with a significant bimaxillary protrusion, and c) left her with missing upper first bicuspids that would have required replacement with costly dental implants.
Dr. B
Hi! are you able to get colors for damon braces? so far i only know that you can get colors for the power chains but what about each individual bracket?
Hi C.S. No colored brackets available.
Is it available in Vietnam ?
Hi Trong. The Damon System is widely available in Asia. I know that the Damon Q brackets are used in China, Malaysia, where I have lectured and South Korea. I don't know specifically about Viet Nam.
Dr. B
Is it available in Germany?
Yes, Damon Ultima is available in Germany.
Guten Abend, Ist dass das selbe System wie bei den ligierenden bracket ?
@@charlottesmith7539 Guten Tag, dieses System hat den Vorteil dass es innerhalb von etwa 12 Monaten durch sanfte und bestens gesteuerte Kräfte die Zähne in die beste Position bringt. So habe ich es verstanden durch Recherche.