Why are GG Strive's heavyweights so good?

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  • @eddventure6214
    @eddventure6214  Місяць тому +442

    A few corrections on small mistakes throughout the video:
    - Pot does have a double jump, I said he doesn’t but I meant to say he doesn’t have an air dash
    - Goldlewis does not have the only + jab, Pot’s is +1
    - In a quick graphic I mistakenly labeled Johnny’s f.S as 6f startup, it’s 9 frames. Not fair the numbers look too similar 😭

    • @thecoolertoadman
      @thecoolertoadman Місяць тому +15

      @@eddventure6214 Unfortunately Potemkin's second fastest normals are both 8 framers, so he can't really take advantage of the +1 his 5p gives him that effectively with anything other than itself. However Goldlewis being +3 on both of his jabs is AMAZING when paired with his 7 frame close slash or 2K

    • @LoraLoibu
      @LoraLoibu Місяць тому +6

      @@thecoolertoadman Potemkin Buster is also 5 frames, so you can do "normie" strike/throw with another 5P or buster

    • @thecoolertoadman
      @thecoolertoadman Місяць тому +3

      @@LoraLoibu That's true, but thanks to the 5 frames of grab immunity they can still mash out of it. Generally if I'm catching someone with a 5P, say after buster oki or a safejab, I either go for a delayed 5P to catch mashers, or immidiately tickthrow... more likely the latter because it catches a lot of people off guard.

    • @notarealclownhonkhonk
      @notarealclownhonkhonk Місяць тому +2

      You also said that Asuka's projectiles can be flicked, when they actually cannot be reflected. They can be attacked, however, so I suppose you're technically correct.

    • @GreekShinobi223
      @GreekShinobi223 Місяць тому

      Another correction, Bedman in Strive is a she. You see the old Bedman from Xrd died in Revelator and the girl in Strive is his sister Delilah

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung Місяць тому +964

    When I first heard of bedman I thought it was just like a nickname or something only to see that he’s an actual fucking bed

    • @remalucard
      @remalucard Місяць тому +208

      funnily enough he used to be an actual man who just was constantly asleep in his bed but eh he dies in xrd

    • @eieneidnf
      @eieneidnf Місяць тому +23

      ​@@remalucardhe also old yellered baiken's dog once just to prove a point

    • @FireCrewGAMING
      @FireCrewGAMING Місяць тому +102

      @@eieneidnf Ramlethals dog

    • @eieneidnf
      @eieneidnf Місяць тому +22

      @@FireCrewGAMING derp

    • @FlashOfSonic
      @FlashOfSonic Місяць тому +80

      Fun fact: The reason it's written as "Bedman?" in Strive is because it's not entirely clear whether this is the original Bedman's spirit possessing the bed or if the bed is just acting on programming that Bedman installed before he died.

  • @fluffydragon1525
    @fluffydragon1525 Місяць тому +802

    I love how nagoriyuki’s whole gimmick is that he’s edging the whole match

  • @Maxler5795
    @Maxler5795 Місяць тому +407

    leo being a "heavier version" of ky gets funnier when you realize that in cannon theyre both kings of the same country, just that leo is in charge of war and general conflict.

  • @icetide9411
    @icetide9411 Місяць тому +393

    One thing I think helps a lot for the satisfaction factor of heavyweights is just Strive's ungodly amount of style. Like if you land a HPB you see art of deities in the background as Pot yells his heart out. Even Goldlewis, probably the least flashy of the bunch, whips out a minigun and feels like he's throwing a bus with every attack. A character that feels good attracts players that play good, and Strive heavyweights feel VERY good.

    • @guywithaguitar8521
      @guywithaguitar8521 Місяць тому +41

      Nagoriyuki has my favorite super in the whole game. good lord the rising slashes into the The Great Wave off Kanagawa finish is superb. plus the baseball super is quite funny if almost impossible to land.

    • @sivadirective9060
      @sivadirective9060 Місяць тому +25

      Honourable mention that GL has a fucking ORBITAL LAZER super

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 Місяць тому +22

      It cost 4 bars to fire this weapon, for 12 seconds.

    • @BraxonGG
      @BraxonGG Місяць тому +12

      Yeah, honestly no joke but the main reason I even became interested in guilty gear in the first place was because of the HPB Strive animation
      It's just, so flashy and good!

    • @FinnishArsonist
      @FinnishArsonist Місяць тому +9

      another thing about Goldlewis when it comes to the satisfaction is with BT your inputs actually reflect the move being thrown out (rather than for many specials being somewhat arbitrary), it makes really satisfying just to input the move.

  • @jugftw4868
    @jugftw4868 Місяць тому +198

    Bedman only suffers bc daisuke knows all of us bedman mains wanna play on hard mode

    • @tivus
      @tivus Місяць тому +8

      How are you after the patch

    • @jugftw4868
      @jugftw4868 Місяць тому +41

      @@tivus i am thriving, my bones have doubled in density, i can speak to the dead, i can use j.s without immediately imploding, the game is too easy now, he needs to be nerfed

    • @wor2xfs250
      @wor2xfs250 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@jugftw4868 respectable bedman? main

    • @tivus
      @tivus Місяць тому +8

      @@jugftw4868 hell yeah brother . -H.H

  • @DrKurapikaIsDrowning
    @DrKurapikaIsDrowning Місяць тому +81

    Johnny’s theme is called just lean, cuz that’s all he does for half the match

  • @TheJam-jm7yu
    @TheJam-jm7yu Місяць тому +107

    20:47 i love the attention to detail of having one of his weaknesses shown subtly while talking about how good the bomb hand is theoretically

  • @Rambrant
    @Rambrant Місяць тому +295

    That iron tagger clip is so tragic to watch

    • @drydum2185
      @drydum2185 Місяць тому +16

      Love me my murakumo units

    • @SomeRandomDude821
      @SomeRandomDude821 Місяць тому +5

      Calamity Trigger is a certified kusoge. Also, Galileo/Garireo (that's not me making fun of him, I've seen both spellings in tournaments) later moved on to Litchi, so don't feel too bad.

    • @BackOff_xd
      @BackOff_xd Місяць тому +1

      I love Nu-13

  • @wingbeat4037
    @wingbeat4037 Місяць тому +56

    The high damage of GGST in general is another reason why heavyweights are a lot better. In a game where many characters will 2 or 3 touch you, getting to lose one extra neutral interaction due to your high HP is a much bigger deal vs a game where the average number of interactions per round is higher.

  • @DazIsBambo
    @DazIsBambo Місяць тому +104

    What is this incredibly sexy editing you've done? Plus, the great scripting. You really got into the nitty gritty this time, damn. You keep getting better and better, keep it up!
    And yeah, the combination of a smaller screen, plus 'I win neutral' supers, plus more meter gain, plus white wild assault... at a certain point, you're forced to ditch what you've always understood to be the traditional weakness of this archetype. Jarring stuff, but that's Strive

  • @FrizzlenillCAN
    @FrizzlenillCAN Місяць тому +149

    I think the sheer power of guard crush plays a large role. It's disproportionately available to heavies, and often their tools are built to facilitate access to guard crush. The lack of throw protection on it, enforces the kind of true mixup that literally breaks the baseline rules of the game's systems in regards to strike-throw - they're permitted strike-throw mixups that are more threatening than the rest of the cast because of the lack of that 5f gap, AND several have command grabs or high throw reward on top of that as well (and command grabs benefit from guard crush massively).
    EDIT: I also think the emphasis on tier placement is misleading - the majority of the cast is altogether solo-viable, and the gap between top and bottom is MUCH smaller than most other fighting games. With the exception of MAYBE the bottom 1-3 characters, everyone is seriously able to compete to the point where relative character strength is essentially irrelevant outside the very highest competition.

    • @Nyagro
      @Nyagro Місяць тому +5

      That's objectively not true though. This game has a worse balance than any recent game in the past 4 years with maybe one or two exceptions. That's also why you see the same 5 characters in every major top 8 (6). And that goes for the entirety of its now over three year lifespan. In one year of SF6 we've seen more characters perform at a top level than in Strive's entire lifecycle until now. Even Tekken 8 seems to have more, even though it came out only half a year ago.
      This narrative about Strive is still talked about a lot by a select few people when the reality has shown time and time again the complete opposite. A game's volatility, where thanks to it theoretically any character can win, doesn't compensate for its overall balance.

    • @whogotthesushi3897
      @whogotthesushi3897 Місяць тому +10

      ⁠@@Nyagrour literally just lying
      This year, Every big body but 1(bedman) are represented in top eights, sol who has been pretty represented in top 8 through most of strive life cycle hasn’t actually been represented as much this year, with sol only winning 1 tournament(umisho, ceo-2024, it’s a major so still pretty important) and placed top 8 in one other tournament this year(Bridget’s is more represented than sol in top 8’s), u have characters like, ino, Bridget’s, sin, aba, and ky, who are all represented in top 8,s, which are considered mid tiers(scratch ky), while u have characters like Ed, Ken, bison and Akuma and occasionally Cammy who consistently place top 8, it’s actually worse then that in topanaga, one of the most stacked sf6 tornoments with a 4.000.000 dollar prize pool, Ed, Ken, bison, and Akuma were represented 18 times in the top 27, akuma being represented over 7 times in top 27, that’s 25% of of top 27

    • @Nyagro
      @Nyagro Місяць тому

      ​@@whogotthesushi3897 Did you even look things up before typing? You literally only cherry picked the only exceptions, and overblowing the rest of your claims.
      Even in CEO this year, you had THREE HCs, two Leos, one Pot and Sol.
      Arc World Tour: Happy Chaos, two Leos, May, two Asukas, the outlier being one Faust and Pep switching to Johnny because Zato is unusable for over a year now in high level play, with Asuka being his secondary for tournaments.
      ComboBreaker 2024: - Happy Chaos, Leo, Sin, Asuka, May and Sol. One Bridget being the only outlier.
      You can look even further back and see none of your claims actually being backed up and you were spouting literal bs. Looking at 2023 and older, the results are even more one sided.
      The stuff you're smoking seems pretty great. But unless you don't even take a little time doing a few searches, don't bother typing anymore. Have a good one!

    • @whogotthesushi3897
      @whogotthesushi3897 Місяць тому +13

      @@Nyagro my point isn’t that u won’t see any top teir picks that would be like saying u won’t see Ken in any major, my point is COMPARITVLY strive is doing better then sf6, and I looked at more then three tournament, S-factor 11(2024), the mixup(2024), etc
      Also u bring up ceo which proved my point that heavy body’s are represented in high level plays their were two gold Lewis players and a pot, in top 8, pot and goldlewis which in season 2 would never show up in a major, let’s compare this with sf6
      Which had the same characters not just be represented but be over represented
      2 Luke’s, 2 akumas, 2 Juri, and 2 jp all in top 8
      Vs
      3 hc’s 2 gold Lewis
      But strive has the worse balance ever right, not to mention that while hC was picked leffem and Lucien pick mid tiers as their secondary, which is why I said u see aba and sin represented in top level play compare that with punk who picked akuma, cammy, Ken
      Combo breaker(2024)
      2 Leo’s, sol, may, sin, asuka, bridget, and elphelt(tempest secondary)
      Vs
      3 Luke’s, Juri, Ed, zangeif, Lilly
      So again strive has more diversity in its top level play even in ur fucking examples like wtf, why don’t u read
      Maybe I’m being obscure let’s look at idk evo Japan
      1) Blanka/Luke 2) jp 3) guile 4) Ken 5) jp/ken 6) Chun 7) Ken 8) Blanka
      Huh 2 blankas, 3kens, and all the usual top tiers
      Vs strive
      1) Leo 2) chaos 3) ky 4) jacko 5) auska 6) sol 7) chaos 8) zangeif
      Only 2 repeat characters and the tournament saw a lot of representation with Ty playing ky, sin, and Bridget, wow would u look at that Bridget again being represented in top major 8, and jack winning the 5th spot
      And of course theirs topanga, which is weird that u saw that as cherry picking it’s one of the most stacked tournaments featuring some of the best players in the world, and a super big prize pull, but it’s for some reason not valid because 25% of top 27 was represented by akuma
      And speaking of jacko, I wonder if a mid teir would be represented in evo this year, no way tho right, strive has only the same characters winning or maybe
      Also ur argument alone is retarded even if the difference in between characters is small statically as long as u have a big enough population those small differences become the major factor and if all other factors are equal amongst players then the deciding factor would be difference in characters

    • @nicton7285
      @nicton7285 Місяць тому +6

      @@whogotthesushi3897 I wish more people provided evidence and elaboration like you did here. Thanks for the info legit wasn't sure how different the character representation was for both games. It may also be because since the characters in Strive tend to be very different from each other, people may not switch characters as often as in SF6, where the cast tends to be (comparatively) more similar to one another in terms of how they play neutral and run offence.

  • @Bluebatstar
    @Bluebatstar Місяць тому +16

    I love how this video came out days before White Wild Assault got nerfed. I’m no competitive player so I dunno how significant it’ll be in the long run, especially since I don’t play any of the WWA characters, but I think it’s funny timing.

    • @kingofthemoon3063
      @kingofthemoon3063 29 днів тому +6

      It remains a very powerful and threatening tool for the heavyweights, but isn't as unstoppable anymore. The changes mostly just mean Goldlewis can't just use it whenever he feels like, but it still remains very threatening when used wisely.

    • @vore_jeff_bezos746
      @vore_jeff_bezos746 2 дні тому

      It still remains an important tool in a few matchups, but it neutered the ability to use it an extra pressure extender/insane neutral skip.
      The universal change of WA HKD was also a big nerf, for the same reasons as everyone else.
      Alas, im not 100% sure how much the nerf harmed it since I didn't use WWA in s3.

  • @dragonic22
    @dragonic22 Місяць тому +798

    Bedman's not on the thumbnail. Unsubscribed

    • @eddventure6214
      @eddventure6214  Місяць тому +296

      @@dragonic22 look closer and give me 5 million subs for your mistake.. >:(

    • @j.l4429
      @j.l4429 Місяць тому +39

      he's Santanna

    • @c.l.p.c5970
      @c.l.p.c5970 Місяць тому +21

      Trio is full lil bro✋

    • @Mr.Faust3
      @Mr.Faust3 Місяць тому +26

      Bedman's Santana he's dead lol

    • @caradearanha
      @caradearanha Місяць тому +47

      He is hidden in the shadows in the upper left part. You can see his glowing eye.

  • @kevingriffith6011
    @kevingriffith6011 Місяць тому +30

    Man, remember when people were able to look at Goldlewis and say "He's like Sol Badguy, but ethical"? And this was back when his drone was *really stupid*. Good times.

  • @PurePancakes113
    @PurePancakes113 Місяць тому +81

    This editing is godly

  • @whizthesugoi
    @whizthesugoi Місяць тому +45

    the insane clown posse jumpscare cracked me

  • @Coffee-Cath
    @Coffee-Cath Місяць тому +47

    In the developer backyard they said the next patch would focus on universal mechanics (again). I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn about a WWA nerf at EVO or something.

    • @Coffee-Cath
      @Coffee-Cath Місяць тому +5

      I honestly wonder how their going to keep the aspects of its unique properties without having it be so powerful. After all it would look bad if they just took it away from the game so they are definitely not doing that.

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian Місяць тому +1

      @@Coffee-Cath Maybe it would take the entire burst gauge?

    • @bafrag7720
      @bafrag7720 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@LloydTheZephyrian Spend the whole Burst to keep away from opponent or to approach them. I like this idea

    • @Megaman231122
      @Megaman231122 Місяць тому

      Not everyone has gotten their new moves yet right?

    • @bafrag7720
      @bafrag7720 Місяць тому +1

      @@Megaman231122 Anji, May, Faust, Giovanna, Ram, Axl and Millia got new moves. 7 characters. As promised

  • @GuyFromCanada
    @GuyFromCanada Місяць тому +50

    My favourite thing about current strive is even the lowest tier characters are still functional (except zato sorry blind brothers).
    Even characters like Johnny, Elphelt, and Bed are absolutely terrifying when played by people who know what they’re doing. They tend to just be slightly more fair than the rest of the cast, which bumps them down.

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Місяць тому +9

      correction: bed is terrifying when played _against_ people who _don't_ know what they're doing. It doesn't really matter if you know what you're doing when the opponent does too and mashes out of your pressure and then proceeds to force you to play midscreen again

    • @metalllich3493
      @metalllich3493 Місяць тому +4

      Johnny is really downplayed tbh, he is really strong. Bed also slips under the radar despite him being pure AIDS to play against.

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Місяць тому +13

      @@metalllich3493 bedman legally cannot harm you if you know the matchup, fun fact

    • @metalllich3493
      @metalllich3493 Місяць тому +1

      @@Brass319 I (sometimes, because Slayer came out, but he kinda has the same problem) play Nagoriyuki and the game literally turns to 3 hours of blocking while he is is floating upwards and throwing projectiles. I still win. It doesn't make it less AIDS and unfun. Also, fuck WWA

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Місяць тому +4

      @@metalllich3493 I can confirm that how you feel playing against bedman neutral is mutual, bed mains don't like it either

  • @uhhhh_hi
    @uhhhh_hi Місяць тому +32

    to reiterate stuff said by gcyoshi, xrd bed (while also not great) had the saving grace of being a mobile big body - meanwhile, strive bed has more average movement with 8-way airdash being surprisingly slow & short, it has frankly terrible air conversions, and the smaller screensize makes it even harder to actually be evasive.
    Bed is also *very* reliant on WWA as things stand so I doubt it'll be easy for arcsys to bring bed up to par while reigning in WWA. Interested to see what they do for s4 bed nonetheless.

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 21 день тому

      Now that Bed got the aerial conversions, do you think they're doing well?

  • @GGSTLowLevelGameplay
    @GGSTLowLevelGameplay Місяць тому +8

    deadass i turned this on so id have something watch while I eat and seeing this channel at 10:22 jumpscared me

  • @nsgarci8047
    @nsgarci8047 Місяць тому +13

    I feel like there's a case to be made about Bedman's visual clutter. Theoretically, you'd be able to counteract his offense with timing and some mashing. Practically, it comes to a point where there is so much happening on-screen that you can barely process what is going on.
    Also, i'm surprised you didn't mention the bed install.

  • @scyfox3659
    @scyfox3659 Місяць тому +24

    3:57 Missed opportunity to have Goldelewis' blood type be AMERICAN

  • @willlazarbeam7770
    @willlazarbeam7770 Місяць тому +9

    A note about 33:29 pot cannot flick ANY of Asuka’s projectiles and he can’t armour through half of them because they are multi hits, making this matchup suck (until Asuka runs out of mana and he takes 75% from one grab)

  • @amboredanditslatesoiinvade893
    @amboredanditslatesoiinvade893 Місяць тому +15

    How can johnny be a heavyweight?! He is so lean DX

  • @thatguymatt5816
    @thatguymatt5816 Місяць тому +17

    BRO you’ve ascended to another level of editing with this one

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
    @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 Місяць тому +3

    Why is 'Why are GG Strive's heavyweights so good?'s editing so good?
    (This was a great video. Good stuff mate.)

  • @Addyrail
    @Addyrail Місяць тому +14

    Small correction: pot actually does have a double jump, and its very useful in some cases.

  • @D-Class-gv9et
    @D-Class-gv9et Місяць тому +5

    13:02 not anymore lmao

  • @z1u512
    @z1u512 Місяць тому +9

    35 minute edd vid, blessed day

  • @KH0RNE
    @KH0RNE Місяць тому +1

    12:03 lmfao this tiny animation was so funny, thank you for doing this in the video.

  • @avestrustheone6349
    @avestrustheone6349 Місяць тому +3

    The old school windows aesthetic is just sublime

  • @happyboi69420
    @happyboi69420 Місяць тому +3

    Dope i can't wait to watch this while i'm at work a couple times!

  • @volt734
    @volt734 Місяць тому +2

    I don't have much to say except that this is such a fantastically well done video, I hope the algo picks it up

  • @brunorcordeiro5260
    @brunorcordeiro5260 Місяць тому +2

    The editing in this video was so good!

  • @jackcrowley2021
    @jackcrowley2021 Місяць тому +1

    Just started, can already tell this is peak. Love the presentation, and you’ve got a sharp wit too!

  • @MicDISCO
    @MicDISCO Місяць тому +3

    Awaiting the arrival of Bedventure. He'll be top tier next patch... I hope.

  • @stenysful
    @stenysful Місяць тому +1

    This video was excellent!! Great editing and videography, attention grabbing ways to present information (those red & green plus/minus frame shots), and a lot of good, concise but well explained information. Highly looking forward to your next video!

  • @raghugba863
    @raghugba863 Місяць тому +1

    Very cool video, I really liked the aesthetic way of presenting everything with the windows 98 theme

  • @kinggodzilla65
    @kinggodzilla65 Місяць тому +2

    Brooo, you missed the opportunity to just call the True heavyweights "SUPER-HEAVYWEIGHTS"
    I love the term so much, lmao

  • @PSIclops_
    @PSIclops_ Місяць тому +1

    WWA getting a huge change just days after this vid is amazing

  • @Robomori
    @Robomori Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic video, great writing and editing, keep it up

  • @caboose3191
    @caboose3191 Місяць тому +2

    My man Johnny may be "low tier" but we Johnny mains don't play just to win we play to be *stylish*

  • @duduvec5971
    @duduvec5971 Місяць тому

    The jumpscare pot buster at the end of the video just sends me. I just realised you spent the entire video not talking a lot about roman cancels and i think that they help a lot too since heavy weights kinda can use more of them.

  • @tentayeprimo6674
    @tentayeprimo6674 Місяць тому

    I love your editing. The video was informative and also fun to watch.

  • @King-vo7qu
    @King-vo7qu Місяць тому +1

    Thank you @Eddventure!!

  • @frostvail1943
    @frostvail1943 Місяць тому +1

    I would put slayer into the mid-heavyweights, due to him being similar to johnny with a step dash that you can't block out of, and he also deletes you

  • @Zeboki
    @Zeboki Місяць тому +8

    Fun fact: 7:09 Snake Eyez picked Potemkin & win the major just to prove a point that that Leffen is trash & the game is too easy to win.
    Whether it proved a point or not, imma let y’all decide.

    • @Gadlight
      @Gadlight Місяць тому

      Snake Eyes is just that good with grapplers, but the first statement is always true.

  • @yakatsusensei325
    @yakatsusensei325 Місяць тому +7

    You slandered Millia. . .
    You will summonm . . .
    H I M

    • @mc3941
      @mc3941 Місяць тому +8

      Nah, Konakon’s channel is gone

  • @KemsKat
    @KemsKat 20 днів тому

    the first thing to mention when talking about strive balance is always the fact that there are very few low tiers and most of the cast is between top and mid tier and even then the "low tiers" are doing relatively alright

    • @TheCrewExpendable
      @TheCrewExpendable 17 днів тому

      Yeah the "low tiers" aren't actually bad characters like low tiers of old fighting games. They just aren't as good as top tiers.

  • @beanie1694
    @beanie1694 Місяць тому +6

    As a bedman? main please let us be good for once

  • @averagemechanenjoyer
    @averagemechanenjoyer 27 днів тому

    not really sure why you put in dance of pales out of nowhere but holy banger fr i love that song

  • @pikachuattack542
    @pikachuattack542 Місяць тому

    I will mention as a Bedman enjoyer and Nago/Slayer main, Bedman is frustrating sometimes cuz of his lack of guts, but running his offense with his install super is amazing and really satisfying. Nobody else in the game has a move that will still come out if you hit him during the animation.

  • @roarkviolet1912
    @roarkviolet1912 Місяць тому +1

    Watching garuda impact ricochet someone from midscreen to the corner and back into Potemkins loving embrace for a full combo genuinely jumpscared me

  • @RobertNobert97
    @RobertNobert97 Місяць тому +1

    Great video! Would love to see more like this.

  • @Guccibear100
    @Guccibear100 Місяць тому

    I played so much Strive when it dropped and into the first season, haven't played in a while. I am not having the right kind of fun playing SF6 and T8 that I had in Strive, maybe its time to come back. Quality content like this really pushes me towards a return.

  • @ramavalos
    @ramavalos Місяць тому

    This is really well done and informative video. Loved the old school windows aesthetic and the chroma key usage. Very smart

  • @Hotashi
    @Hotashi Місяць тому +5

    pillar man

  • @namedrop_6092
    @namedrop_6092 Місяць тому +2

    this video helped me play potemking better thanks

  • @gkgeze
    @gkgeze Місяць тому

    I hope you blow up (in popularity) your content is crazy good

  • @amp7711
    @amp7711 Місяць тому +2

    NEXT SEASON BEDBROS! DAISUKE WILL GIVE US A FULLSCREEN COMMAND GRAB!

  • @sharkyisdead
    @sharkyisdead Місяць тому

    one thing i will mention is that, with the new patch that came out a day or two ago, wwa has been SIGNIFICANTLY nerfed, losing its guard crush and changing to -3 on block (not a lot but enough to not be able to steal turns out of thin air)

  • @mania1916
    @mania1916 Місяць тому

    The editing in this is amazing!!

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 Місяць тому +4

    I will wait till I finish the video to say things.

  • @FHGryphonIRL
    @FHGryphonIRL Місяць тому

    I think it mostly boils down to how little interactions you need in strive to win. You really only need two sometimes even one interaction to take a round. In other games heavyweights have to work so hard for each win but it doesn’t matter as much when you only need one. (Or when you’re names nago and you can win off of round start (idk if you still can I haven’t played in a bit but wow that was something))

  • @THEQuagyy
    @THEQuagyy Місяць тому +1

    I love how 1.38 basically said “let’s fix every issue present here”

  • @gooper9777
    @gooper9777 Місяць тому

    god, this editing is incredible~ great job! real good video too!

  • @jamfingers55
    @jamfingers55 Місяць тому +3

    Honestly one of my main concerns is how the nerfs to WWA will affect Bedman?. Nago has enough to function fine without it, and WWA IS one of the main reasons Goldlewis is so good, and IMO Potemkin has enough tools to work without WWA (and even then, he might receive minor buffs to accommodate for the loss in the upcoming patch)
    But that leaves Bedman?. Now keep in mind he's already a subpar character (not horrible, but lacks a lot compared to most of the cast) But my main concern is HOW he uses WWA. Bed is a character who already has poor neutral, and even on successful use of WWA, he doesn't get as much reward off of it as the other 3 do. But he also uses it to extend his pressure in the corner without resetting or leaving a gap. So a nerf to one aspect of WWA like for example making it neutral or even minus on block, which seems totally reasonable for the other 3, would kneecap a decently substantial option for his gameplan.
    I don't have a smart solution to this. I just hope the buffs in the patch later this month are enough to make up for whatever changes to WWA they're making in addition to just buffing him in general.

    • @kerbonaut2059
      @kerbonaut2059 Місяць тому +1

      Pot will need major buffs to compensate for WWA nerfs because buffed WWA is the only reason he's mid tier, full stop.

    • @jamfingers55
      @jamfingers55 Місяць тому

      @@kerbonaut2059 Aight. Admittedly not super familiar with Pots intricacies, most of this is second-hand knowledge from playing against him

    • @andreadicastro8525
      @andreadicastro8525 Місяць тому

      In general the only way they can fix it only for bedman and worse for everybody else, is making it only upper body invul, bedman being an aerial character forces the opponent to use high hitting pokes, so forcing the opponent to take risks by checking WWA with low pokes gives bedman a huge advantage, while pot and Nago and also goldlewis arent really air focused characters, so using low pokes against them is way more willy nilly

  • @MaximumBloop
    @MaximumBloop Місяць тому

    I love how basically hours after this video went live the patch went live, completely rendering the Johnny section of this video outdated.

  • @theprismaticsystem2833
    @theprismaticsystem2833 25 днів тому

    In the defense section for pot, you forgot to mention his back daci as reversal, it's slow, very invul, and barely moves him back, back dash followed by pot buster is a scary thing he can threaten on wake up.

  • @souvennir9751
    @souvennir9751 Місяць тому

    one of THE BEST edited videos in the FGC

  • @MundoSD
    @MundoSD Місяць тому

    I needed this video as a pick me up after watching Jonathan Tene's vid on why Sol is so good. Thank you for this. Made me appreciate Nago more.

  • @esaucortes5840
    @esaucortes5840 Місяць тому +2

    Oh, back Megafist, my beloved carry go to button ❤❤❤

  • @nissenor741
    @nissenor741 Місяць тому +1

    Editing is so good

  • @TheFakeHatMan
    @TheFakeHatMan Місяць тому

    A.B.A dropped and instantly became my favorite character, shes so fun to play as

  • @mauz791
    @mauz791 Місяць тому

    This was a very fun watch, good video 👍

  • @PSISomething
    @PSISomething Місяць тому

    Really nice video, specially for someone who hasn't been keeping up with season 3 that much cause I've been too busy. Only complaint is that your voice sound mixing is a bit low in some parts which makes it difficult to understand specific words. Overall a really good analysis

  • @1_____________________
    @1_____________________ Місяць тому

    Also important to mention is just the existence on roman cancels. Especially PRC.
    I know this video is mostly comparing it to other GG titles. But if you compare it to fighting games in general, having a "remove endlag" button just makes heavies a lot more viable.

  • @ToxicIdeaStorage
    @ToxicIdeaStorage 2 дні тому

    Marineford Reference.
    I dare... to Hit me...
    -Z7
    Get Luigi... call...
    ME!!!
    -Mario

  • @13thephantom
    @13thephantom Місяць тому +4

    So where would Slayer go? He technically fulfills both the power fantasy and struggles against Zoners* (asterisk for a reason)
    *struggles up until Hand of Doom

    • @eddventure6214
      @eddventure6214  Місяць тому +6

      I’m considering making a video on the term players have been using to describe his type of character in strive - that being bruisers - similar to this in the future. Characters who don’t have crazy long blockstrings or high reward mix, and focus on strike/throw, but also aren’t exactly rushdown

    • @LoraLoibu
      @LoraLoibu Місяць тому

      isn't hand of doom ass

  • @theboguin2961
    @theboguin2961 Місяць тому +4

    Cries in Bedman? main

  • @Kaczer94
    @Kaczer94 Місяць тому +1

    very very well done video, very fun to watch and easily digestable. my only gripe is voice modulation. At times, it peaks when starting sentences or asking questions, but while finishing sentences it's gets so quiet it's often hard to understand. Like here at 30:59, it starts pretty loud, then slowly gets quieter to the point the last word is almost silent, I needed a few times to understand it - is it "neutral"?
    I'm definitely not saying it's unwatchable/unlistenable, I want it to be a fair critique because you clearly have editing skills and will to do research and record footage, and it'd be such a shame if your speech held video's quality back. There's plenty of techniques and excercises to work on that.
    That aside, great work, and keep on doing what you love 👍

  • @thecoolertoadman
    @thecoolertoadman Місяць тому +1

    A not-uncommon suggestion for fixing white wild assault is just replacing it with red or blue wild assault on the main 4 heavyweights, and as someone that plays Potemkin, I'd unironically love blue wild assault on him.
    It would give him an easy time converting off his pokes whether they counterhit or not, and while the extra scaling means that the impact of say, far slash heavy slash blue wild assault pot buster wouldn't be as dangerous as it sounds, being able to convert that wild assault into say, close slash down heavy garuda for great oki would be excellent.
    That's the main thing I love about this suggestion. While white wild assault is just an independantly strong tool on a character with neutral struggles, blue wild assault has more direct synergy with his big pokes, giving them more time to shine.

    • @CapnNapalm
      @CapnNapalm Місяць тому

      I like white wild assault on Nago (I’m a mid level player). It’s a nice way to help me get in on zoners so I hope they keep it but maybe make it way less fast or something. I know Nago has other ways of dealing with projectiles and zoning, but I’d hate to lose this bit of player expression. I love Nago and will still play him regardless but it’s pretty fun to have a cool burst option in blood rage too

    • @kerbonaut2059
      @kerbonaut2059 Місяць тому

      I see you toad man, spreading the agenda

  • @CattoEggs
    @CattoEggs Місяць тому +5

    Erm bedman is sss+ tier? Sigma? Erm! Blocked!!!

  • @felixLucretius
    @felixLucretius Місяць тому

    I dunno what inspired the use of Ace Attorney music for the Bedman segment, but I ain't complainin

  • @leonlindkvist
    @leonlindkvist Місяць тому +3

    Damn johnny a heavyweight. Damn

  • @BingoFunnny
    @BingoFunnny Місяць тому

    Why the hell is this edited so goddamn good

  • @reeceulf
    @reeceulf Місяць тому

    29:53 Idk if this was a stylistic choice or not but I'm still gonna give an honorable mention to our boy "uncontestable"

  • @LionShard
    @LionShard Місяць тому +2

    Welp, this video aged well in whole three days

  • @NeroWolf42
    @NeroWolf42 Місяць тому +2

    NGL Bedman is my favorite heavyweight
    Installed the Bedman Bot mod and the portal Bedman skin

  • @quantum174
    @quantum174 Місяць тому

    after he said "i lied to you" at the Potemkin part i got an ad and just had to sit there confused

  • @chaselowell4567
    @chaselowell4567 Місяць тому +1

    Will we get a sequel video on lightweight speedsters?

  • @canaryHills
    @canaryHills Місяць тому

    Incredibly well made video !!

  • @ToxicIdeaStorage
    @ToxicIdeaStorage 2 дні тому

    Um Hilfe wurde gebeten...
    ...Es wurde mir...
    Ziviel...
    -Fenrir

  • @professorharuki1570
    @professorharuki1570 Місяць тому

    The thumbnail slaps

  • @Gamegummi
    @Gamegummi Місяць тому

    I can’t believe I got to draw a thumbnail for The Eddventure

  • @Roman_the_black_cat
    @Roman_the_black_cat Місяць тому +1

    10:58
    Me teaching my family fighting games:

  • @senounatsuru6453
    @senounatsuru6453 26 днів тому

    Little adjustment after the most recent update: WWA is now minus on block.

  • @devondorr8212
    @devondorr8212 20 днів тому

    I think one of the most oppressive things is passive resource generation. The more you get hit the more chance you get to two touch your opponent. If they scale burst and meter gen according to HP% it would be an instant nerf to heavyweights.

  • @hannyachaos
    @hannyachaos Місяць тому +1

    Holy gyatt is this edd from guilty gear