Reserve Parachute Toss w/ a Twist of Lines 9/11/11
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2024
- 9/11/11 After thermaling up at Billboard, I push on my speed bar to escape the sink and to get away from the hill and towards the next thermal. Soon after, I didn't like the feel of the air so I got off the speed bar, and KABLAMO!!! Enjoy!
A good analogy I read somewhere, speed bumps in a car..... going slow, almost tolerable, just a wee bit faster, they can be violent.
Something similar happened to me one week ago. Though I ended up with a large cravat in a stable spiral with sink rates above 20 m/s - and this fairly close to the ground. I threw the reserve as well. Thanks for posting your video, it helps to understand.
as a glider pilot i always thought that u could only themral in gliders, this has truly opened my eyes .. this would be an amazing feeling!!
good call!!!! better safe than sorry dude, happy landings!!!!
thanks for the added info skunk, looking forward to more of your videos!
At that point he was already hanging from the reserve, all he could do was wait so he thought of recording it. That's some cold blood right there.
Peace
Best idea :))) Don't try to play "bad ass" of the day - toss that umbrella!!! Thats what it is for!!!
Great job dude :)
Невероятное видео! Орел против параплана
Glad, your alive, too. (My heart bumps!)
I wanted to get into this sport (Power Paraglider) but that put me right off . What is a safer glider or better again the safest glider. And also how did he get out of that?
Thanks.
I think the book might have expected a little more, you could definitely get your glider, Yet to acknowledge that a situation so unexpected reaction is natural to take the parachute :-)
I was looking at the harness thinking there are too many colors.
Than i realized this is a paraglider.
in one deployment, or separate?
I had a similar situation but without the twist, so it opened again and the rescue remained in the harness. This is a clear case for throwing the reserve instantly. This glider won't open again after the twist. So yes, Paragliding is safe, if you make always the right decisions.
Thanks for sharing because I will never do this myself!
Mr Goldsmith,
I put this up here for people to learn from, and if you can use it and it helps, I would love for you to use it as well. I will be on the lookout for the book. - Stephen Nowak
How hard would it be, if even possible, to kick out of those line twists? I skydive on a very regular basis and occasionally have to kick out of them, and had them bad enough once to use my reserve instead for the diving spin I was stuck since the risers were off balance in the twist. Just curious how this compares to a skydiving canopy (or wing, or whatever! lol) and dang I want to learn how paraglide!
Nice job gettin down safe BTW!
I was flying in that area and the gold, white and blue wing in your video looks like mine and my track shows the same location that day. what time did it occur?
Combo of release of speed and entering a thermal = dynamic full stall? Yeah, I guess that is the most likely explanation, huh? Wow. I've never flown a small acro glider, are they really that close to the stall point? Did you have any brake on whatsoever? Sometimes on my M3 when I hit a rippin thermal and the wing goes back I am all the way hands up and the wing still seems like it's far behind so I add speed for a bit. You think that could that happen to me if I was releasing bar instead?
Wait, you are fighting line twists to save your life.. And in the front of your mind, you're sayin, "Wait, i forgot to record this, or did I, no the camera is off, okay, i'll turn it back on.".. lol Thanks for putting us UA-camrs into consideration for the video!
lucychoov, once you throw the reserve, it is just a matter of waiting for the ground. Statistically there are very few serious injuries from descending on the reserve. skunksbutt's choice to throw the reserve is a good one once the risers twist, but good training and practice will mean that you stand less chance of getting into that situation.
Nice work on the reserve toss and making it back to post the video! I think there are a couple of people on to something. In slowing the video down it looks very much like a very dynamic spin (with the combination of coming off speedbar really fast and entering a burly thermal)! I suspect you have come off of the R side faster, and thus as the wing has gone back towards stall, the Right side has stalled first, spinning it as it fell behind you. Then after a 180 deg turn toward ground
I'm a skydiver not a paraglider, i was just wondering if there was a cutaway system on paragliders. We would have chopped before deploying our reserve in that situation (not criticizing your decision, they're two different sports) so i was wondering how that whole deal works out, if you have to ride it out with a malfunctioning main or whatnot
@bill23818
I think Mitch was flying the gold, white, and blue glider. This all happened almost exactly at 2 o'clock.
but before the riser twists, (if you look at the wing) you have added significant left brake. It looks like this slows the rotation of the wing down, but your rotational momentum leads to the riser twists. Nice work on the quick toss. It would have been interesting if you'd had an extra couple of thousand feet as it looks like at the point of toss the wing stabilizes in normal flight.
What hapened next?
You opened the reserve?
At 0.59 the sail goes almost to hit you! It could be dangerous no?
If the sail is not open regularly, how come, is at the same height with your body?
@CKAnumber2 click here 00:52 to see the reserve toss. I thought the camera was off and I wanted to at least get the landing on video after having tossed. Turns out I did have it on and I turned it off mid ride.
How in the hell were you not loosing altitude with the chute crumpled up in front of you?
Was there another chute deployed?
Heavy! Deploying the reserve was a good decision. You were twisted three times and had not too much altitude left. If the glider had gone into autorotation it would have been hard to get out of the situation unharmed.
What size is your Thriller? What acro maneuvers do you fly?
i havent had a front stall but i had an accidental fullstall near the ground and i still regret not pulling out the reserve. i've seen pilots get injured for not pulling out the reserve, my father is one of them.
so your main collapsed after your reserve came out and had slowed you down? don't know if you call it your main in paragliding. round reserve?
seconds from dying and your first thought was to try to turn on your camera? lol. badass
you can use video in books now? what year is this? i think i accidentally drove my delorian 88 mph :(
@climb1028
Closer to stall? While I don't claim to be an aerodynamicist, I don't think so. I think if anything, the xc glider may be, seeing as though we aren't trying to maximize our l/d or our sink rates. But what do I know?
I think the speed bar mostly contributed to the higher speeds that lead to a more dynamic event. You may be on to something though. I didn't see the glider go. I felt a strong pull up, not even too back and then kablamo! It may have tucked, I really don't know.
What if there's someone underneath you (I could see a hanglider down there)? What's the drill for avoiding them?
what happened at the end?
I landed safe with no scratches, nothing to worry about. Seriously though, this is middle of the day in the middle of summer on an uncertified aerobatic glider. Not even close to a tandem glider. Kinda like comparing a bike going 250mph on the freeway during heavy traffic in 60 mph winds to a sunday bicycle ride down the block. Completely different risk level. You would be surprised how smooth and mellow it feels to be up there on a good day. You want it,
I know you do. Come up sometime.
well... if he uploaded this video, he's probably not dead =]
Thanks for the rad ending
Why would you end the video?..
@skyfreak909
Knowing you struggled too, in the same air on the same day at the same spot at the same time, helps me to rationalize it somehow. On a very different glider too.
Where are you jumping in this video?
So... how many time did you spent untangling that stuff after landing? xD
The most pain full thing to land in is a stinging nettle bed full of spiky plants and blackthorn and black berry bushes ouch lol
jonathan oxlade Sounds fun xD
Thanks for posting, that must have been quite a ride. I'm curious if you have any ideas about what may have caused your wing to act like that? My first thought was, wow, you came off speed bar really fast, that could be just the way the video made it look though. Any ideas? Thanks, and glad you made it back to earth safely!
accelerated collapses are a bitch, glad to see your ok to tell what happened, fast acro and soft landings
That date is cursed....
Sweet video thanks for posting
did you get off the speed bar too quick?
@pmny119 I thought the camera was off as I was just thermaling, I was trying to turn it on to at least catch the end but I ended up turning it off instead. I landed without a scratch.
wow man !!! good work !!!
How was closed flying?
gnarly bro
love you, be safe
thanks man! I was just curious
thriller?
That is the reason I don't go up there with you bro lol
full version
Where's his gloves?
Did he survive
yes, no injuries
Maybe you've never had front stall?
I didn't think it was on, I thought I was turning it on to film my impact, I ended up turning it off instead.
I now have quick release carabiners to release both my gliders main risers and the accelerator system AFTER deploying the reserve parachute. There are also harnesses that cut away first and then deploy a BASE canopy as a reserve in addition to having a "traditional" paragliding reserve, either round or rogallo steerable.
Usually, if we have altitude, we try to correct the problem and fly away. It's when we are low that we throw the reserves and by then, cutting away isn't much an option.
Oh Snap Is he OK
Stephen i am a Paraglider too.Why u think this collapse that lead you in a twist unlickily happend?? U seemed u did nothing .. (like an acro or somvthing)
Yeah, he tosses the reserve chute at 0:54
Always fly with a reserve chute.
:D Good joke.It's an addictive sport.You will fly, when you can fly.
Жив? Цел? Орёл?
a home made bike (the 1st one), in a manner of speaking... lol
Completely get what you re saying. :)
happens from time to time...
Yep, Thriller 20
i dont have a back up parachute
Haha. Do u know that most parachute backpacks have emergency shutes. :)
Oh okay that makes sense. I bet that was scary as heck. Shouldn't have gone on 9/11/11 lol
e man, are you alive?
he is dead? :/
@skunksbutt Goog desition, i would do the same... better be alive udner the reserve, land into trees and destroy wing, than to make a big splat pizza down there!
I think u like your life very much :))
@pmny119 its different... very different. im a skydiver too but alot of friends paragilde and they say the ditch procedure can be completely different at times. obviously his decision alt is lower but he was already way past critical alt for a skydiver when he stalled/turbulence so after that he was even lower. pretty sketch with that variable terrain. we all would have called him an idiot if this was his death video too so i think he made an appropriate call.
@ssflyer25 Kinda wish you were. Come fly with us.
thats why I don't fly hg's ? pg's have more crashes don't they ?
It seems this is part 1, getting into trouble. Where is part 2, "saving my ass"? I assume you threw.
haha sounds awesome
I have 2 reserve parachutes.
i thought it said "reverse" :P
Errrr why the fuck did you cut the vid at 01:10?
I want to learn to do this,...
help me out buddy, I'll fly out and take the lesson,...!
im no paraglider kinda dude... but fook me id shit myself big time if that happened to me....
hope ur ok...looks great fun..
Are u alive
i would rather collapse my wing and go away from it then to have a negative load whack and be rolled over sideway towards the ground, and when we hit, at least its not with are face first, thats why i dont flying HG
@skunksbutt holy shit thats fuckin scary as, how did it twist did u turn to fast? And how did u not die wtf haha
never fly on 9/11.
@Chrzaszczu1 you must be joking...
Thats why i never interested to fly paraglider, fly with no framework of glider its too risky.
Dead?
did you die?
realy
you shoulda known better bad things happen on 9/11
lol
That made me cringe.
wtf 0:47
Terrible video. I could have learned a lot more if you didn't cut the video for whatever reason.