What Happened to the Vegan Hype?
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What's really disheartening is in the last year I've seen so many of my local grocery stores scale back the vegan products they carry. Vegan TruWhip? On closeout. The entire Tofurkey lineup at Walmart? Gone. Beyond burgers? The only store still that carries them charges eighteen dollars a box. The once rich non-dairy milk selection in some stores has been pared down to almond milk. The demand just isn't there anymore and it sucks for the rest of us.
That's insane. Every tiny corner shop here in the UK has a few brands of oat milk and probably soya too, it seems like
Same here. Walmart no longer carries Tofurky but they do carry Beyond burgers (for now) Even the $18 a box ehen they're not on sale i pretty good. $2 something per patty. How cheap does it need to be.
Yep, unsweetened soy milk used to be $2-2.50 for a store brand near me for half a gallon but now it's $4
I'm wondering if this is due to people moving away from ultra processed food in favour of whole foods. I've noticed a upsurge in interest of health and nutrition over the past few years. I know this channel is more focused in favour of processed food and supplements but I've always been interested in how the push for whole food diets and reducing supplementation will effect veganism from becoming more mainstream. Would be interested in knowing her and other vegans opinion on this
If you don't buy them, low demand = no commercial value to them
I listen to a lot of more alternative media / spiritual type people and I’ve noticed a huge shift from veganism to raw milk / raw meet (gag) / carnivore diets. It’s just what’s trendy. But overall, being vegan has gotten way easier with each passing year. I’m constantly pleasantly surprised that restaurants I used to struggle to eat at have vegan options now!
Im vegan 10 years next month. I cant believe how much had changed since i started . being vegan gets easier and more fulfilling and satisfying every passing day.
They will have to go back to plantbased. I hope they look at raw milk and meat under a microscope...
@ you are so weird
How refreshing to hear a moderate response to the stock market; the conversation on infinite grow and hype is so tiring, thank you for bringing a measured approach and a sweet reminder that in the big picture it *IS* getting better
Fk yeah 💚
I think the anti-vegan content is actually a response to the success of the vegan movement in the mid and late 2010s. There wouldn't be so much pushback if veganism didn't have that huge growth phase in the first place. I'm still optimistic about veganism continuing to grow over the years. The early 2020s are just a temporary slowdown
“Who buys Boca?” - me laughing because I do 😂. Their chiken patties got me through college lol.
They're good. Mayo, lettuce, and tomato. How can you go wrong?
they’re great! we still buy the burgers and chicken patties
As a vegan mother living in a not super developed country, the way you always describe the US and raising vegan kids in the US is wild to me. Currently struggling to find a daycare that will even go along with vegetarian, let alone vegan. Compared to here, where the status quo is what it was in the US or Europe 10- 20 years ago, the positive developments are insanely huge.
That sucks! What country do you live in? No worries if you don't want to share, I am just curious
That sounds tough.. I feel for you
I have been vegan for just over 10 years. The only coffee shop that had alternative milk options was Starbucks and they only had soy. Oat milk didn’t even exist as far as I remember. The supermarket had one or two alternative milk options. The only mock meats were Linda McCartney and Quorn, and Quorn didn’t have any vegan products. You’d be lucky if you could find some one brand of tofu in the supermarket. Basically you had to go to a specialty shop to buy any specifically vegan foods. A lot of restaurants didn’t know what vegan was and were not interested in catering. Again, you would have to go to a specifically vegan or vegan friendly restaurant. Most people now know a vegan so there’s less of a stigma. Vegans used to be considered crazy extremists. When I told my mum back in 2013 that I was going from vegetarian to vegan she was not happy about it at all. Nowadays she thinks veganism is great, and she’s seriously cut down on her animal product consumption. Things couldn’t be more different from 2014
Actually you have not been vegan and there's no such thing. You've been brainwashed and you have identity disorder. You are most important because life is most important in life it's always true. No manner of caring for the animals or oneself or others or any manner of doing the opposite and the needless harm changes that.
I just said the same thing!
@PlantQueen-q4r I have been doing it for over 40 years and talking with people with the gift of gab the entire time. My opinion of this vegan movement is that it is complete and total absolute fraud and it disparages and abuses the genuine animal life cause and the cause to take care of oneself. Not a single one of these people have an argument with me that they can win. They were talking about their grief and their experience and all the excuses that they had heard 20 years ago after I already had 20 years in.
@@amyhatch3761 It's not healthy for you to tell yourself and others that you are a vegan. You are most important and that is who you truthfully are. That's not a label that's the fact of the matter. Identifying yourself as a label is losing your true self.
@@amyhatch3761 PS. When I started out about the only bread you could find that didn't have lard in it was called Hollywood diet bread. Things are way easier now. So people need to quit crying about it.
2015 - I hope you're right. Soon to be 10 year vegan here. Greetings from Poland
The attitude shift should be that vegan products are for everyone not just vegans, and that concept I think is getting through. I believe the most crucial thing for vegan products is accessibility, having that vegan option on the shelf Infront of you for the same price or less is important.
Carrots and apples were always for everyone, no big deal.
@@megadeath666666 So non-vegans gonna replace carrots with carrots? Sounds convincing, to rabbits perhaps.
I am an omnivore who regularly watches your channel (be kind please). We don't eat beef at home in part because of the values we aspire to, but also because beyond burgers now available at Costco for a decent price AND are so much yummier than beef patties to me. I appreciate the vegan hype because I like eating less meat, but kind of need it to be easy.
I am also an omnivore. I really appreciate that you don’t make us to be the villain. This is why I subscribe I want to learn and do better. I talked to a friend who is in the same situation-we are trying, but we do need this to be easy for our partners who are not cooperative (mine is hers is not). I have successfully done meatless once a week but it’s a slow process. We are also gluten-free because of celiac. It’s difficult to be vegan as a celiac.
Edited to add: I have a child who is dairy free and absolutely loves the dairy free kraft mac & cheese. We are hoping it will make it into mac & cheese cups!
2nd edit-I feel like this with gluten-free as well.
@@puzzleducation It can be extremely easy even without processed vegan products.
My own plant based cooking takes me about 1.30 hrs a week for multiple portions of four different whole food plant based meals which are healthy, affordable and tasty.
@@shannonp3400 I'm vegan and gluten free. It's not that difficult if you cook from scratch at home.
When your motivation is to save animals, the food part always seems easy.
Thanks for pointing out that article analyzing tech hype cycles. I had unthinkingly somewhat bought into that analysis as plausible, and I hate when reality shows me I haven't been adequately applying a skeptical framework.
What really changed is that health-conscious people suddenly decided that eating copious amounts of saturated fat, raw milk, and tons of beef is now super healthy for you. So from Vegans who eat 7 grams of protein to the crazy carnivores that eat only butter and steaks. Seed oils are now a new topic, along with processed food. I just can't clean up my social media feed fast enough from these people they are popping up on every corner. Americans looove to go extreme on everything from politics to day to day life choices. So I think that's why people get the feeling veganism is slowing down. We don't get vegan ladies who eat 97 bananas and 3 almonds a day. We now get raw milk, raw meat, and organ meats dudes, and their wives recommended to us on Social media.
An outside perspective as a non-vegan who watches your channel (and a few other vegans). I wonder if the slow in interest in veganism has to do with the fact that the activism push in the 2010s was quite succesful in finding the people naturally most open to trying the lifestyle that had otherwise not considered it. The result is that there was a big uptick in the sheer number of people exploring or flirting with plant-based diets, but now all the people who were most likely to "convert" have done so. Doesn't mean that more of the population can't be convinced, just that the people who remain are harder sells, so there's a loss of momentum after the first "wave" of new vegans in the '10s.
Have to agree.
Plus I also think there was another group of people who became vegan to loose weight. Yes, veganism is a very healthy way to eat - if you learn some basics of nutrition and cooking. But the rise of vegan 'comfort food', and every brand that made calorie dense treats and convenience food brought out a vegan option, are nit any more healthy or less calorie dense. Don't get me wrong, lovely treats.... but if you heavily rely on them it's not nutritionally balanced or easy to stay in a balanced calorie intake while feeling fed. When people didn't loose weight or whatever, they lost interest.... and quietly went back to their prior way of eating.
For context I am vegetarian and then vegan by accident (I can't digest milk so that's out, and no eggs as I keep my cholesterol low naturally to hellp avoid statins) . And don't get me wrong, have loved the rise in vegan options in shops, it's been so much easier to get milk alternatives and tofu etc. But I see so many options on the shelf that are nice but should really be in the treat category when you look at nutrients and ingredients. Shout out to Philidelphia vegan spread though, I hope that never goes away! (Almond based product product, and aa staple in my house)
I really don't think we can measure how many people are moving towards veganism right now just from the sales of vegan products, since so many new vegans like myself might be opting for whole food plant based diets without much processed vegan items in them. I belong to many such groups, not everyone in them is an ethical vegan, but many of us are and cook mostly from scratch.
Probably, the arrival to ethical veganism of people like myself who previously started eating plant based for health reasons and then gradually moved to ethical veganism could explain why the increase in numbers of vegans in many countries is not followed by an increase in sales.
Also, regarding vegan restaurants, in my experience, many of us have very few or none vegan friends and relatives, so we tend to choose regular restaurants and try to make our best from what they offer, instead of going to vegan restaurants where our family & friends might not enjoy the food.
Well, at least that's my very limited experience of my own life and what I read in the many vegan groups I'm a member of.
@@lucietigger1641 People who chose to eat plant based as a way to lose weight weren't vegan, because veganism is an ethical choice regarding the rights of animals. Same thing in your case if your not eating dairy is dictated by food intolerances and not ethics.
I think the confusion between veganism (a philosophy) and plant based eating (a diet) is blurring very much the public view of veganism.
Maybe, but more people are born every day and there are always tons of well-meaning people who just don’t know much about the animal agriculture industry yet.
@MdoubleHB23 I want to believe this is sarcasm. Swayze is healthy, working out every day, and judging by what she says, her children are perfectly fine too. Being pale is just genetics and also common sense for people with genetically pale skin who choose (wisely) to stay away from the sun. As a scientifically trained person myself, who has read extensively about veganism from medical sources, I can guarantee to you there's no such things as the "laws of nature" or a "species specific diet" linked to raw diets. As a matter of fact, the few cases of vegans getting extremely sick or dying are all raw vegans.
Swayze's videos are absolutely not "meaningless" in any way for the overwhelming majority of us who follow her. If they're "meaningless" to you, feel free to stop watching them; I'm sure there's a lot of raw vegans out there publishing videos about that extremely dangerous and unbalanced way of eating you can binge watch.
By the way, I find Swayze perfectly nice and very knowledgeable in everything relating plant based nutrition.
The first one! Just leaving a comment for engagement, to help the channel 🖖😁
Did you read my comment? Tricking people into replacing the truth of the importance of life itself with something less while claiming to represent life's truthful interests is something so horrendous that I'm not allowed to type what it is in a UA-cam comment.
Appreciate that your content is always so insightful and informative!
We are climbing down the hill but still climbing up the mountain
@MdoubleHB23 trollolololol
Beyond and Impossible make amazing products. The problem is that their products are as expensive if not more expensive than meat. Which is understandable given the fact that manufacturing of these products is tiny compared to the meat industry.
that could be it. I only buy them when there's a good sale on them
"Amazing" is a gross overstatement, I haven't tried all of their products, but what I did try was bland and disappointing.
@ I love their burgers. The meatiest plant-based burgers hands down. Even my omni friends love them.
@@Alanitoo Why do you like the taste of meat?
Top-performing stock fund manager Peter Lynch (Fidelity Magellan Fund) always advocated buying "companies you know and like". He was in early on Leggs pantyhose because his wife loved them, as well as dozen of other companies whose produ ts he liked. He did VERY, VERY well.
Had I followed my conscience and bought stock shares in all the vegan companies I love, I'd have gotten absolutely pummeled in the market.
I really WANT to invest in good and responsible corporations, but vegan companies were so disappointing that I'm now just in 'regular old' Evil Corp stocks because I'd like to avoid living under a bridge when I'm old.
There are always options, and we all make our own choices.
He only ran the fund for 13 years so it might be luck. The best company stock investment of the last 100 years was Altria, a 16.5% annual rate of return since 1925. The best company stock investment of the last 50 years is Home Depot, a 27% annual rate of return since 1981 inception. Notice how the best investments are never anything innovative and never tech stocks?
I think his point is more along the lines that you should know how the company affects people, first hand. Then you should consider such risks as whether they could be easily outcompeted and get a sober overview of earnings and earnings trajectory. Beyond have been spending a ton of money and are in a low margin market with a lot of competition.
Now if a company patents a way to make realistic cheeses I know that people would be willing to buy it at a premium. There is a significant risk that an alternative recipe might be found. But I would do a simple linear regression analysis of their growth, or even better price to earnings ratio and consider buying a small share.
Never invest more in one company than you can afford to lose.
I’ve actually stopped eating processed meat substitutes entirely because I was so sick of getting to like something and then having it suddenly become unavailable everywhere I went. Literally accidentally went like 90% whole-foods-plant-based because I couldn’t deal with my meal planning getting disrupted by products being discontinued all the time.
I guess it’s because they do tend to be transition foods, so the vegans who stay vegan don’t create enough of a consistent market for the products to stay.
I think it's more than most people who try veganism don't stay vegans, unfortunately. Long term vegans, like Swayze, use mock meats as a part of a balanced vegan diet-- they aren't transition foods.
@ that’s true, it’s definitely in large part people just giving up, and they’re not ONLY transition foods. They would be transition foods for a decent proportion of people going vegan though, particularly the ones who aren’t in it for the animals
A lot of fast food places also discontinued their plant based burgers. I was bummed when Carl’s Jr quit serving theirs.
Thank you so much for reinforcing this for me! I’ve seen SO much change in amount of options and labelling / marketing over the past 7-8 years. I see VEGAN everywhere nowadays! This wasn’t the case just 10 years ago when I went vegan - there was f-all!.. I am so confused when people say it’s fading - it’s really not! 💚 Go vegan! This is the future! 💚
Veganism is actually on the up and up in Japan, with about 1 in 40-45 Japanese being vegan now. Since a third of the population is in the greater Tokyo area, you can find more and more vegan food and restaurants there. I'm moving to Japan next month (for the second time) and feel I can stay there long term and eat well now
I think the hype for the big vegan companies was overblown, but what I have noticed is that a lot of grocery stores here now carry a pretty varied vegan section with cheap and decent alternatives to milk and meat. And restaurants now usually have a couple of decent vegetarian and vegan options.
i was hoping the vegan meats getting products in fast food was going to stick.
Some observations that I noticed during this period. Places spent as if the trend was permanent and expanding. Veggie grill, for example. They expanded during this period and have massively pulled back (closing many stores and changing ownership I believe too). Also, the hype about the "burger than tastes like a real burger" collapsed when they released new products. They have never really advanced beyond "minced style" meat. Sausages, burgers, and nuggs are decent, but nothing yet that is un-minced meat. For example, the steak tips from Beyond are nice, but no one would be fooled. They overpromised, underdelivered, and failed to keep up the innovation. It happens.
My household buys boca!! The vegan burgers that make are 13g protein for 80cals. Best flavor/texture? No but we all lift weights so the macro friendly choices for a lower price range is super helpful
Needed this. Newspapers seem to delight in every vegan place/brand going under. Nice to look at the bigger picture
Thanks for addressing this. I'm not sure I share your optimism because statistically the number of people on a PBD is still around the same as it was before. I also agree with jsnwayne's comment that it is extremely disheartening when once again, the selection of plant based items have been severly trimmed back, discontinued and are stuffed off in the dimly lit corner of the produce department and rather than putting beyond burgers in the MEAT department where they were originally supposed to go to catch meat eaters, are no longer there and they're now in the frozen foods section. Talking to the managers of the meat deptments they tell me people just aren't buying them. The other thing that I find extremely disheartening and disappointing is here in the US (not other countries) it is so hard to find a restaurant that accommodates people on a PBD or even people with food allergies. If you're going out to eat with a group of people, they don't want to go to the hippie veg restaurant, they want to go to whatever popular place they can get dead animal products. And maybe I can piece together a meal of side dishes. Or maybe get some spaghetti. Or not. Often that's got egg. This has not changed for the better here. I just think it's a cultural thing.
It’s disheartening to see less vegan products being advertised and on shelves nowadays but compared to when I became vegan about 8 years ago the selection is still unmatched. I think more stores and grocery stores emphasize in carrying vegan products. I don’t have to search far and wide for vegan options in restaurants here in New York. Not just speaking of Manhattan here.
I live in Scotland, Uk, and I feel like the vegan movement goes backwards since covid time. Small vegan businesses shut down here in Edinburgh, instead of creating more cafés and restaurants. It's really sad 😢
Hello people 🤗
I love this post, it gives hope and confidence
Hi! I have been vegetarian since I was sixteen (I’m now 29) an vegan for more than six (?) years. When you see the overall picture is mostly positive, in my country (Spain) you could not even find soy milk at the supermarket, let alone tofu or tempeh when I was a teen.
Here in Europe there was also a rising moment and a lot of options popped up but they’re not almost everything getting discontinued. Talking with my boyfriend and some friends it may be because of frequency. We dont go out to eat fastfood or buy beyond meat everyday … so its normal that if something is already kind of niche + unfrequent purchase + more expensive than other vegan food (less processed) = disappearing vegan products.
But still I think most of the vegans I know we all tend to cook our food and here in Spain we have amazing beans, vegetables and fruit so… it makes sense. Alternatives to meat were okay while making a switch or some special occasions but it’s not enough for the brands to survive here. 😢
Thank you for all you do for the cause Swayze! You are an inspiration!
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I'm not sure evaluating the success of "veganism" by the success of ultra-processed foods in the market makes sense. But I agree, I think the vegan "hype" has fallen away and has been replaced by an aggressive surge of anti-veganism. And given most people don't really want to eat nothing but plants, give up circuses and zoos, abandon pet ownership and not bet on horse races, they are pretty happy to hear how veganism is a bad thing. I honestly believe there is a behind-the-scenes concerted push by animal-using industries to counter the vegan message. However, the vegan message hasn't been helped by overly judgemental and aggressive advocacy/activism from vegan advocates, nor the fact that some vegan claims just are wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I think we've seen peak veganism. maybe... young people will do more to adopt veganism, but I believe we need to radically change vegan messaging. And, let people make up their own minds what to do.
I have to agree and one other thing is that the USA is shifting from crazy left to crazy right. This also greatly impacts what is being promoted in media and social media. We have a surge of dudes eating raw milk, promoting red meat as the healthiest thing you could possibly eat. I'm not vegan and I don't see myself becoming one. But this notion that we should eat meat 3 times a day and promote that as a way to go and be healthy is just crazy to me.
@@stefanmiletic8062 yep, what's out there now is pure nuttiness. What's bizarre about the carnivore craze is that these were the same people hating on vegans for eating a super strict diet yet here they are limiting their diet to just a couple of foods and actually believing that makes sense. I find it curious that for some reason, humans eating nothing but meat equals good while eating nothing but plants equals bad. If that's not a meat industry backed campaign I'd be very surprised.
@@stefanmiletic8062 "crazy left"?!? Lmao the USA has never ever been even slightly left of center. Not that veganism has anything to do with the working class seizing the means of production anyways.
The problem is that the "veganism" that gets popular is a human and consumerism based trend. During that "hype" period, plant based meat alternatives (as they should be called) didn't equally increase talk about animal rights. I get the feeling that a lot of people that discuss veganism focus it SO much on food that it reaches the point everyone forgets the core component that is for animals to emancipate from the oppression they are subjected to by humans.
I bet few people even know about the story of veganism and how it took a process of SEVEN years to correctly define it in 1951 after Donald Watson coined the term in 1944. The sad overwrite of the definition given by Leslie Cross “The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals.” that ended up into the welfarist and non-committing definition used by The Vegan Society today doesn't help either.
Veganism that is "as far as is possible and practicable" doesn't give the urgency that animals need. People having the possibility to eat Beyond Burger at McDonald's ain't veganism. If anyone reads this, take veganism as the ethical principle it was originally laid out to be. Once every vegan understands that, then one could consider different set of practices (still the summation of practices does not equal veganism).
Vegan & gluten free. As a celiac, yay!
and also as a family who has eaten beyond and enjoyed it, not realizing it was vegan (I did but my kids didn’t) I am incredibly thankful.
I love a good impossible burger but stuff like impossible and beyond products most anyway just are not a healthy daily swap for most. Maybe the steak or crumbles are the exception
Have to agree. Imho in any eating style it's good to learn some basic nutrition facts understanding and some cooking skills. I have always cooked and make an absolutely awesome nut roast at home (imho!) When I look at many easily available alternatives in shops, they are missing so many ingredients I would use and are replaced with prob cheaper less healthy fillers. No differnet from processed meat items in shops, but a lot of vegan items aren't any better.....and how people feel when they go vegan doesn't improve and I think that doesn't help people stick with it.
The products are just not very good. I know so many who wanted to make to stop eating animals and tried to eat these replacement products but they just wern't satisfying for them
All of the brands you mentioned are the survivors after the big plant based boom. Companies that had no business doing a vegan product were trying. But to just comment on how clueless they have been. Biggest pet peeve is don’t create a plant based product ( by substituting the meat ) and then add cheese , milk , whey ,milk byproducts ect. So dumb. Even Gardein who I love partnered up with Marie Calendar to create a pb product and then they added cheese. Omg ! When I have gotten a vegan whopper the first thing they ask is do you want cheese on that. Um No. I get it I was vegetarian before going vegan. But these half assed vegan collabs are sad.
My favorite vegan Mayo follow your heart is no longer in stores near me idk if they stopped but it was so good. They also got rid of the veggie hotdogs I get sometimes and the imposible side meals that were so delicious. It really is a shame. I believe that some of it is due to corporate stores trying to make more of their brand like Walmart and target. At my stores a lot of the vegan section is so small and almost wiped now in replace for “bettergoods” (a line by Walmart). There is some good and some bad.
i would buy it but im 18 & havent moved out yet & my mom thinks beyond meat in unhealthy but i disagree. i really like the avocado oil one
Thanks for this video!
The key for these companies offering alternatives is getting their products to taste better and being cost comparative especially with food prices being so high to begin with right now. You will never convert/change omnivores with products that don't taste as good and are more expensive. The good thing is that technology is always moving forward and better tasting and less expensive alternatives will inevitably come. That said, I don't believe that veganism or carnivore will ever be anything more then a fringe diet (or belief) to the general population. Most people want a wide variety of food in their diet and those two lifestyles are too restrictive. The real losers in the coming years will be the organic and non-GMO movements. The population growth numbers are going to turn both of those into fads. Big agro will win. Climate change plays right into their hands.
Love this. It was never a trend for me. Also you look great!
I believe that Animal Agriculture phase out if it happens, it happens so quickly that we don't even notice. It just requires more time unfortunately.
I wonder how much activism has an impact on the shift.
It was rammed down peoples throats and died. Incredibly annoying. Here in Norway there were tons of new vegetarian/vegan products, just a few years ago, now they are all gone.
I invested in Beyond during the hype. Luckily didnt invest much, just a few hundred dollars, but im just holding the stock. Maybe eventually it'll come back, maybe jt won't, but you don't lose money till you sell, so why not let it ride.
Good stuff as always!
Ok thank you for sharing your knowledge
Like with most fad diets, they never really last and only make up a small amount of the population. Keto, paleo, carnovie ETC. Comes in eps and flows.
My favorite vegan Mayo follow your heart is no longer in stores near me idk if they stopped but it was so good. They also got rid of the veggie hotdogs I get sometimes and the imposible side meals that were so delicious. It really is a shame. I Belice that some of it is due to corporate stores trying to make more of their brand
We are in a WAY better place now than we were when I became a vegan 28 years ago. I used to have to bring my own soy milk to coffee shops back then.
I went vegan 20 years ago and it was the same. My friend who went vegan in the early 80's thought he was the only person who ate vegan and didnt know the word vegan existed until he came across it in a book. He was already doing animal rights stuff when I was just starting school! 😃
I worry that there are many entrepreneurs who jump on a trend and offer a shoddy product that end up hurting the trend before cashing out. We have to face the fact that vegans are a small minority and I am surprised by how many companies have sprung up to satisfy us. But those who are whole foods plant-based are not too keen on overly processed foods even if they are healthier than their meat and dairy counterparts. As the population gets sicker and sicker from saturated fat and cholesterol, maybe doctors will "prescribe" some of these meat alternatives and the market will grow.
I love the positivity!
Can a vegan diet be nutritionally complete without supplements? I do not know any vegans in real life so anyone that could answer I’d really appreciate it❤thanks in advance!!
Sure, I'm in the UK and the NHS recommends that vegans supplement B12. I take it in a multi vit just so I'm covered. I think they also say Vitamin D because of the weather here but they say that for people on all diets in Winter. I think another vegan said some type of seaweed or similar has B12 but I just know I'm not going to be eating seaweed regularly, biscuits and chocolate - yes! 😄
Lol just got to where you said, "Who buys Boca?" I will slowly raise my hand here. It isn't too expensive at my local Meijer, and they have a low cal- high protein option that I think tastes good. It checks all the boxes for me!
But yeah, I worry this hype about avoiding UPF's (and a lack of understanding around it) is not helpful...for both plant based products as well as lab-grown products.
*VEGANISM IS ON THE RISE. THIS FACT CANNOT BE DENIED.* And, naturally, we are already *Light Years* ahead, from where we stood ten years ago, when most prosperous Vegan companies were only conceived... 😃😍
Of course, at some places there had been a slowing in growth - for example, some extremely promising companies, such as "Panda / 7th Heaven", "YoEgg" and "Redefined" might have slowed down, however *this* is wholly unrelated to Veganism. Some really bad stuff has been going with that country. But the positive trend is unchanged.
The past decade had only seen *the first* stage of the growth of Veganism; many more are to come - and, unlike You, if I had any money to invest in _anything,_ I *most certainly* would have.🙂
Now I’m really intrigued to know which company she’s talking about that made bad products that aren’t as popular anymore. I can’t really think of any off the top of my head.
I can’t either!! Wish she hinted. There were some frozen dinners that were paltry, but other than than, I can’t think of anything that’s been atrocious.
I like Bocca! 🙋🏾♀️
How many grams of protein?
This was great. ❤
All the fast food places got vegan options and now they are all gone except for burger king
Swayze said "trow" because she doesn't know what a trough is. Because she is vegan.
Thank you!
Trough is pronounced “troff”. Very surprised you don’t know this.
@3:40 Why are you disrespecting Boca? I prefer their original vegan burger over all the "meaty" burgers out there. I want my burger to taste like a plant disk, not an animal disk.
I found a vegan page on instagram and the amount of disgusting comments from meat eaters is just crazy to me. I’m not surprised more people don’t come out as vegan or talk about it openly. I don’t talk abut it because of that because one time i did and the amount of heckling i got was just sad and it’s usually from selfish ignorant Americans.
Colo-rectal cancer. The World Health Organization, based on over 800 studies, has classified processed meat (bacon, ham, deli sliced meats, canned meats, others) as a class 1 carcinogen like smoking cigarettes. Red meat, beef and pork, is classified as a class 2 carcinogen. The lifetime risk of developing colorectal cancer is about 1 in 23 for men and 1 in 25 for women.
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what happened to follow your heart cheese slices? changed formula. it's gross now.
Yeah I lost money on Beyond stocks lol, whoops. It's still on the market so if it ever comes back up... I'll be selling and reinvesting into smarter stocks like ETFs. Individual stocks are almost never worth it ... sigh
Eggs and baskets or something like that.
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What happened to the vegan hype? Too many over priced, shit products that taste like complete garbage. I've tried so many vegan products and 60% of them were super gross and twice as expensive as the non vegan version. Too many companies taking the absolute piss with their expensive, gross as hell products. I was vegan for a long time and I still enjoy many vegan products as I am dairy intolerant. Many people will try out vegan products despite the price and then rightfully feel played when they are offensively bad. That coupled with the soaring price of groceries in many countries and there you have it. If regular products are becoming more and more expensive, people won't take a chance on a vegan version that is less nutrient dense and likely disgusting. Again, I like many vegan alternatives but if I'm too broke to afford regular meat I certainly won't be tempted to buy the more expensive vegan faux meat. I obv just go for beans and other protein rich cheap staples but yeah.. that is what happened.
I think there's a political aspect to this as well. The rise of right-wing conservative influencers becoming more popular, and their lifestyles becoming trendy (i.e. Ballerina Farm and Nara Smith, amongst others), has painted eating things like meat, raw milk, etc. as the more "traditional" and "healthy" way of eating (obviously we know this isn't true). But it's what's trendy right now. That being said, here in Canada I've noticed there is still a huge amount of vegan items in the grocery stores, and I think being vegan is easier than ever.
Stop painting veganism red! (I'm not American. Red is the colour of communism, not democracy). I'm not left on the spectrum of political opinion and I've been vegan for a long time like many like minded people.
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Boca burgers are yummy 🤧
Jack and Annie’s though? Trash. Tried it once and will never try them again.
Press release tonight kitkat vegan is being dropped with dramatic drop in sales
Swayze. Did a double take... Trough = “troff”, i.e. a depression.
The impossible whopper is not vegan. Vegetarian burger by default.
Beyond lost me like 800 dollars. It’s ok tho, I forgive them, their bratwursts and steaks are too good.
Processed food is gross
yea, that's unfortunate. veganism is rivaled by semaglutides. no wonder veganism is in drastic decline.
David Wishengrad, the person who has talked with more people about not needlessly harming the animals than any person alive with the, "I wholeheartedly agree", in writing from the most qualified person currently alive to review and teach logic, came along and exorcised veganism in the name of Truth and Life in 2020. That's what happened. Even Chatgpt says that he is the first person it would recommend to anyone who wants to have a serious discussion about putting an end to all needless and preventable suffering death. Yet, here we are and he has been repeatedly ignored by those who are claiming to care, but are lying.
I loved those disney vegan nuggets
It doesn't work.
go veganism!!!
all those brands like beyond meat etc are overpriced mas produced processed food that taste ok but not good enough for average person to bother buying; no 1 its processed food witch we need to move away from 2 its has dubios ingredients and costly ; id sooner stick to tofu lentils and beans
I agree on the cost, but UPFs being categorically bad is just false.
Check pronunciation of the word trough .
Meep 8^(
Veggie sludge will never be meat.
"Who eats Boca?" *pretentious sniff
I guess it's your privilege that you live where you do and have the means to buy what you want, but where I live, for a long time Boca was all that was available. It was the first meatless option for burgers in my community, and often the only ones on sale as more competitors joined my local market
Stop being such a snob. Someone who goes from cows to Boca is doing something great.
I'm excited for whats to come..maybe I'll live for the day where there's no conventionally farmed meat and dairy in the stores🥹🌱💪🏼
Nice and balanced view but I still think that the fake meats are doomed to slow growth due to veganism being very malnourishing.
I'm one of those that tried and expected better health but then switched to meat only in 2018.
Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
I think the concept of plant based, whole food life style is quickly replacing the older version of veganism. The anything goes so long as it doesn't contain meat early yrs are slowly disappearing. It certainly didn't help that VEGAN was slapped on the packaging of anything and everything that didn't contain animal products.
The need to find a meat mimicking product is making less sense these days to a lot of ppl who want it all... animal welfare, lower environmental impact AND health.
I believe the days of processed foods, like Beyond Meat, potato chips and Oreo cookies that were once acceptable by some as a part of a vegan life style is fast fading away, as ppl look for simpler, healthier and ultimately much less costly options.
While the non-dairy fridge section is expanding/booming, the fake meats section in regular grocery stores seems to reflect an exciting fad that fizzled out after a short while to now almost nonexistent.
25% DV Saturated Fat and 15% DV sodium in 1 "Beyond Meat Hamburg Pattie" isn't good enough anymore, as ppl cut out the middle man/manufacture, search for 0% and buy whole.