Electric seats are much better, and i’ll tell you why… you can adjust them to a fine level, to a millimeter. The manual ones you have to click into place and on the recline you cant always get that perfect posistion.
I don't want to give too much hate, but most of the things described in this video are absolutely unnecessary and unimportant. Yes, engine noise, both in the cabin and from the exhausts, is not something anyone with a v6 car wants to skimp on, and yes, bad brakes are an issue, but we have a few things to think about. First of all, things like the control of the mirrors and the seat, or the wrong placement of the drink holders is an absolutely unnecessary thing to deal with. Yes, this sports car may lack a bit of sportiness, but it still doesn't need excessive luxury. You also have to learn to live with the size of the suitcase. That the appearance is a bit shabby is an individual matter and, moreover, when driving you will see the inside of the car, not the outside. So far, all generations of the Z series have been tunned, so even this car with its v6 engine will be a rarity. Then there will be no more people who hate it, maybe only those who would take it as a classic and not as a sports car. In short, if you just want to look at a car, buy a 100-year-old veteran that doesn't drive much anyway and drink coffee with it in the garage. A video full of unsavory rants failed to deter the purchase, and quite possibly amused that the 15th reason was the brand of the car (which also made no sense). Buy this car, tune It, and enjoy it. And above all, be glad that we still have combustion engines at all, because the design of the new Z is eerily close to electric cars.
yeah it's funny reading all the hate videos I think the hate is really just the price point, 10k less and people wouldn't complain. Z's have always been a modders dream, and the modds i seen have been nice - everything's working as intended :) - kinda glad nobody really has my car right now xD
@@vincentlarry8440 Well, yes, you could, but in this moment comes truth, if you really love Z's. If you are a nissan fan, you will not take a Honda or Toyota. It's just what design you want (or if you want 4 pistons or 6 pistons, and if you want inline or V engine).
I've had a 370z for 7 years now and it's incredible to see how similar my car (that is actually now 10 years old) is to the new z. It's like the interior has been slightly changed to included updated gauge and infotainment console, the outside has been simply reskinned, and they added a turbo. The Z is showing it's age already. I wouldn't sell my 370z to upgrade to this for the price they are asking. Thanks for the content!
Own 2024 Z Performance 6MT - while 'some' of the comments are true, overall the new Z is a pleasure to drive - most car owners in USA don't drive this on a race track every day - they drive and enjoy their Z as a daily driver - 2 big thumbs UP for the new Z - the PROs far outweigh the CONs - that's reality. I really like the suspension - for daily use, it is very comfortable and does not beat you up on bumpy roads. The power is impressive - handling is superb - high quality feel overall - very substantial, tight, and again, the suspension is just right in my opinion of driving many many years. The new Z is 150% FUN, Inc. Bottom line: at a price point of mid 50's, there is NO COMPETITION to the new Z - the dupedra is not a competitor - if you want to create a list of all the inadequacies of the dupedra, I will guarantee you it will be much longer compared to the Z. From: a happy new Z owner Rock on Nissan!
I was so excited for the new Z, I think many people were, but when it came out performing like a soft gt cruiser, with a ridiculous price tag, majorly bummed. I'm surprised anybody's even buying them with so many other options.
Reason 2, the 280ZX Turbo would sit down on the back wheels when you floor it. As a teenager, it was very fun when the front of the car would lift up because I was going “So Fast”.
Got it so new suspension, break pads, removing the fake exhaust speaker sound, new exhaust, and LOTS of anime decals. I'm trying to get one in black but they aren't selling any in the 150 miles/6 dealer ships I've asked about where I'm at. So many "manager floor models that aren't for sale"
Thanks for the honesty! I went from a pre owned 04 350z to a new 09 370z. The wait for this is honestly 😢 Hopefully next full redesign they’ll have R&D $$$
I believe the stitches defects could possibly be on your car but not only your car. But the suspension issues I see a lot and the tires I hear suck too. What really surprised me is the black two tone is a wrap like wtf is that about! Happy I seen your video and thank you.
Some things are just unacceptable from a design and engineering standpoint and some may be attributed to post covid supply chain and labor shortages. Either way for the money they want for that car , they should be embarrassed.
The suspension can only be fixed so much, you can replace the springs but what if the linkages are crap? Are the linkages even the same as the 370z I wonder? Is it a fully independent suspension? Is it double wishbone? I mean what are we dealing with in this lemon? Lol
The internet can't be happy with anything. Supra is a great car (I own one), but everyone hates it. The Nissan Z is a decent car, just needs some tuning/replacement parts (which most people will do anyways). Some will argue that "but but, for $60k...."... it's 2024, a $60k new sports car is the equivalent to the $35k cars 15 years ago. Those $30-$35k cars still needed major modding. Get over it. Be happy Nissan put out a 2 seater, rwd 6 cylinder car.
There are alot of cars in that segment with better quality and performance and comfort. Japanese JDM is kinda dead and it hurts saying that. At least Acura/ Honda look cool but they still suck to drive compared to other cars
A black vinyl sticker not even placed well on the roof. On the Nismo, the extended wheel arches are stickers as well!! Whereas on the competition like the M2 it is actual widened body of the car.
Do you even know that your car has the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car? ADUH??????? That should be your number one reason for saying the Z is trash. Number two should be the color!
Nice recap. I was already hyped on this car until I realized the sport version does not get the comfort package. Both versions should also have vented seats. Oh and it’s Sept 2023 - I have yet to see any Z’s on the road. I read Nissan having paint issues, so big delay in production.
loving the sport personally, hoping to change that in my area - people can't help be look and be wow'd shit's lovely lol, didnt even see heads turn for the porche's that run around. definitely looks better in person - can't wait to drive it tomorrow lol
Stock suspension reminds me of the OG Z31 suspension. That car did a fat squat to go nowhere fast very loudly. I miss mine. It got ran into while it was parked outside of my house :(
You forgot to mention the very shart doors ends that rip through shirts and skin 😅. Seems to me it is the same as the 370z . Which is really bad for first hand owners, but really good for second hand owners since you got z1 motorsport to shop for upgrades (suspension, brake system, clutch, probably master and slave cylinder as well 😂)
As a car enthusiast who wants to upgrade from a Rogue after I graduate college, into my first (working) enthusiast car, I think it's a lofty goal to buy one of these but not impossible nor necessarily bad. These issues are either things I'm already used to from my Rogue or nonissues for me, like the manual seat adjustment. That being said, if I already owned a 370z I would probably not "upgrade", especially at these price points. And tbh, I might as well keep the 370z in mind given how rare these cars are to actually find at your dealer. It's been nearly a year now I think and they still don't seem to have been made in particularly great quantities. And obviously, little has been done by most manufacturers to crack down on parasitic dealerships. It's definitely amazing how poor the build quality can be on a $50,000 car, manufacturers can't keep using COVID as an excuse for supply chain issues.
most of these seem like non issues - and the z is a enthusiasts dream - excited to see more fun mods and less drag mods being posted. Seems like the content for the Z's has died off Q4 2023
This car is ugly BUT Yea, this engine was used for many years on infiniti q50/60 redline sport, and people have tuned them for very good power...for years now. Learn 2 cars before typing 🥴
Racebox, ams and other tuners came to a conclusion that 2018+ ecu is very problematic while and after tuning. I picked up a 2017 q50rs and going on 2 years fbo, ecutek, 477whp running strong.
This video is trash. Mostly nitpicks and no mention of the car's good points. What exactly happened to your brakes? We need more context before deciding if that's a real issue.
so im buying a Z in march and of everything iv learned i need to immediately buy some new coil overs and tires, those are the biggest complaints across everybody
So basically, wait till dealerships can’t sell them and then buy a base model a couple years after, and replace every stock part with aftermarket parts to fix all the shortcomings… You’re really just paying for the engine, a chassis, and the basic necessities. Can’t say I’m surprised. Nissan has always been barebones…
@@Coyote350 I’ve driven it but only for about 10 minutes and liked it personally. I’ve just seen a lot of negativity about the new Z that’s all. Do you regret your decision or are you still happy with yours despite its shortcomings?
@@rummyb7461 I was never planning on keeping it long term. It’s up for sale now. It was merely to have fun for a few months and to make content. If I had more cashflow I’d probably keep it for longer and do some mods. Doing some mods may have convinced me to keep it. I’m still happy with it. Just with Suspension, exhaust and tune the car would be a whole new beast.
I just bought my 2023 Z two weeks ago. It is so sick. Mind you, this is the first sports car I've ever owned, and also have driven. I have 0 experience or comparisons to other cars but it is incredible. I drive the automatic which feels great. The engine noises sound great, and although I guess it's amplified/artificial through the speakers it sounds good. I imagine if you wanted something really loud and obnoxious you would modify it anyway. The suspension does feel soft (I guess?) But the ride quality is absolutely amazing. I use it as a daily driver and I wouldnt want to have a harsh ride everywhere I go for me and my passengers. The power and speed is insane, again no experience with anything else at this level but it is so much fun to drive. The numbers provided seem to be 0-60 in 4-4.3 seconds for the automatic which is objectively quick. From my point of view the Z is an excellent car for the average person. I cant speak on behalf of diehard enthusiasts however. I imagine most of the issues people have (exhaust too quiet, suspension too soft, tires, etc) the enthusiasts would modify themselves anyway As for the other nitpicky reasons it's (trash) I think they are negligible. Side mirrors? Trunk space? Hood? Roof? Etc are non factors. The car looks and feels amazing. Hopefully this helps your decision. Not to mention you'll be the only one within hundreds of miles driving it. This is a rare car currently and it's fun to own and be seen with one of only a few in the country.
They will be great used in a few years… just not for $55k and still needing atleast another $7000 in mods to fix many issues At that point just look at a different vehicle engineered in the last 5 years
To me, those aren't enough reasons to call it "Trash" , or stop buying one for that matter. Other than the BMW....sorry Toyota Supra, what other manual, rear wheel drive and relatively light sports car at that price is avaliable? I like the Camaro and Mustang, but they are still too heavy for what I want.
The only reason I can think of is that a lot of the JDM Fan Boys wanted the full Japanese built car to take down the GR Supra and to prove that the Supra is a mistake to merge with BMW, but sadly it was a back fire… T_T
I’m more interested in the review of this open cylinder head designed block & it’s going to have the same issues that plagued the infinity red coupe that shares it
I agree about the automatic side mirrors haha even my 2004 $5000 Nissan Fuga has that. Plus the reversing camera is better than the Z too. LOL. Other than that I love my Z Proto Manual.
AMS Performance has gotten this car into the 9’s. I can forgive most of the 400z’s faults except for one, having to drop the motor to replace the turbos…
almost every one of these points can be justified by nissan cause either its a sportscar not an SUV, or cause its a sports car thats supposed to be a direct competitor with the new supra... meaning its one of the cheapest. 1. yeah thats sad but whos really gonna care at the end of the day people arent buying z's for the attention to detail. 2. just get coilovers for like 2k more if you dont like it 3. save weight and its not like thats such a negative that you have to point it ouit like i shouldnt buy it JUST for better seat controls. 4. the sticker is a disappointment but once again, who cares, if theres a slight imperfection like that corner just cut it since its just a sticker, or take it off and actually paint it, you can clearly afford a brand new sports car upwards of $40k, spend a bit more to get tthat fixed if you dont like it, or buy a luxury car, not a z. 5. this car was very clearly marketed towards america for left hand drive, so yes as it is kinda bad and i do agree with you on this point, you have other cup holders, 2 seats and 4 cups is weird if you ask me. 6. who cares wtf 7. who cares wtf x2 8. street racing are we? thats illegal. 9. if youre wanting good sound get a mustang, almost any modern car will have bad exhaust. 10. no proof lmao what is this 11. no proof and that must be rough knowing you had to break that hard (fr tho yeah thats kinda a prollem) 12. yeah the quality is bad but other than that just learn how to use a backup camera lmao almost every backup cam does that distance thing. (also the camera was on the grass in the cam you very obv moved it to the rocks for that shot) 13. its like barely off lmao its a budget sports car 14. you literally pointed it out, its a sports car, noobody buys these things for traveling... i feel like this video was made as a joke, but idc i would love to own this car and if anyone tries to say its still bad, you try making a 400hp twin turbo drift car on this level for under 50k starting from scratch (other than the 370z interior)
I was a big fan of the 350z. Owned and drove one for 10 years. But, for the price and what’s being offered in this Z, I decided to get a Camaro. Much better car for the value.
Reason #16: The metal strip that runs along the top of the window to the back of the liftback. it ruins an otherwise attractive car. Am I the only one who absolutely hates this styling cue? Why can't the top match the body color?
I bought a 2019 370z sport pkg with the 6MT new for a little over $33K and have spent a few thousand in intake, exhaust mods and a dyno tune. My car is a good 300lbs lighter than the new Z and puts out nearly as much peak crankshaft horsepower, 387 hp. My car is all-black and has been polished and coated, so that it turns heads and gets compliments. I wouldn't trade it for the new Z, even at the MSRP.
I'll start by acknowledging I did not read all the (currently 411) comments below, but I have to believe this is complete satire. As someone did note below, all of these items outlined by our mealy-mouthed host are completely inconsequential. Full disclosure: I just bought a 2024 Z; Performance Model, 6-Speed Manual. This car is amazing! It is a 3500lb 3.0L Twin Turbo Coupe. Of course is it loads of amazing fun to drive! 😀🤩🥰
#17 The special model is that shade of yellow that looks like it's too shades away from goose poop. If nissan had any brains whatsoever they would have made the special model look like the devil z wangan midnight.
@Coyote350 cause the cup holders don't move from side to side, so therefore I don't hit any drinks in my cup holders when shifting unlike the RHD version
Oh so the handbrake on LHD models is still on the left side of the centre console! I just looked it up, make sense. What doesn’t make sense is why they didn’t do it properly for the RHD models.
I liked the concept of the Z but thought the gr corolla was more unique and built well. I couldn't get over the Z being 2023 car with a parts bin of older tech. eg the body, manual trans, suspension & handling, some interior parts and switches. Plus Nissan is in bed with Mitsubishi and Renault and seems like a dying company made me pass
i have an 09 base manual 370z since new w/35k miles. i wish i had all of that luxury, rear view cam, hill assist wow! dont even have rev match. the top sticker is not too bad for me...will help protect the actual roof from bird crap , and the elements to help it last longer. all the other stuff like suspension and brakes can be swapped out easily. its a purpose built car. dont take it to go food shopping. take your corolla.
The reason why the new Z does not meet your expectations is because it is basically a "parts bin car". A new body built on the old chassis. Nissan almost went bankrumpt a few years ago. And they tried to build a car on a ~10 year chassis. The build quality is bad because it is a Nissan. If you want a car with better build quality, then buy a Toyota Supra.
Oh yeah all your complaints just means you’ll be happier in an automatic Miata Nothing you said changes my mind it’s not perfect, but for the price it’s pretty solid
1 Reason above all else: I've never actually seen one being driven. Ever. I live in Idaho and I see Lambos and McLarens and a 250 California. Never seen a new Z.
This video is for people that aren't car enthusiast. This is a car to have fun when ever you want, where ever you want while adding some "daily driver" perks to it. "Outdated tech" or "Better Reverse Camera Than A Civic" than get a civic. Overall if your watching this video to find decent flaws of this car, this isn't the video for you and probably anyone that isn't a child.
15 reasons? There are too many to mention. The worst one, I truly believe Nissan said to the self, let’s spend more on marketing this than developing it. It’s ugly, slow, no soul or charisma. Somebody fire the person in charge of this project .
this car,if it had not taken the basis of the old one it would have cost the price of a Lamborghini. so being able to collect parts from Nissan and Infinity to make a new car is a stroke of genius
In Australia this car is considerably cheaper than an M2. Over in the US however, it is a pretty viable option. The new Nissan Z can handle pretty well, it just is not confident at doing it at all if that makes sense. 0-100 acceleration isn’t anything special but my gosh is the 100-200 a different car.
You have 2 wonder what the fucks going on when your breaks give up like that. I had a Nissan 200 sx lovely car when they first came out bulletproof really. Nismo 👍
z32 will always be the best z chassis for many reasons. sure its bulky, outdated in lots of ways, hard to work on, but damn if it doesnt feel so amazing. best driving experience i have ever had. i will never sell my z
You're way better off buying a lightly used 370Z and modding it. The aftermarket tuning community for these things is enormous, parts are readily available, and they're built on the proven VQ37VHR platform. The new Z is frankly just overpriced for what it is.
@Coyote350 You wouldn't need FI. The new Z gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds. With intakes, a full exhaust system, and a tune on a 370 you could hit that mark for around $6,000 USD. To each his own, but personally I'd rather put that into a low mileage $25,000 car than pay 40 or 50 grand for the new Z if the performance value is the same.
@@GixxerRider1991 0-100 the new Nissan Z isn’t that much faster. But having extensively driven this and my 350 it’s the 100-200 that absolutely shits on the 350z/370z. I just casually hit 202Kmh last night. To do that in my 350z it takes 8 business days in comparison. I get what your saying and you could still buy a 370z and turbo it for cheaper. But you’ve always been able to buy a cheaper car and make it faster 🤷🏻♂️
Manual seat adjustment is a big plus. Less weight, less complexity, less likely to ever fail.
No its just cost cutting, and for that reason its a plus…
electric seats just take too long. I prefer to pull a lever and be done with it.
Electric seats are much better, and i’ll tell you why… you can adjust them to a fine level, to a millimeter. The manual ones you have to click into place and on the recline you cant always get that perfect posistion.
Only plus side of electric is key fob and button based memory for different drivers. Lots of weight. I have them.
I rather the manual seats but at this price you gotta ask yourself... what are you really paying nearly $60k for?
I put this video on mute and it was still too loud.
Hahaha!
I don't want to give too much hate, but most of the things described in this video are absolutely unnecessary and unimportant. Yes, engine noise, both in the cabin and from the exhausts, is not something anyone with a v6 car wants to skimp on, and yes, bad brakes are an issue, but we have a few things to think about. First of all, things like the control of the mirrors and the seat, or the wrong placement of the drink holders is an absolutely unnecessary thing to deal with. Yes, this sports car may lack a bit of sportiness, but it still doesn't need excessive luxury. You also have to learn to live with the size of the suitcase. That the appearance is a bit shabby is an individual matter and, moreover, when driving you will see the inside of the car, not the outside. So far, all generations of the Z series have been tunned, so even this car with its v6 engine will be a rarity. Then there will be no more people who hate it, maybe only those who would take it as a classic and not as a sports car. In short, if you just want to look at a car, buy a 100-year-old veteran that doesn't drive much anyway and drink coffee with it in the garage. A video full of unsavory rants failed to deter the purchase, and quite possibly amused that the 15th reason was the brand of the car (which also made no sense). Buy this car, tune It, and enjoy it. And above all, be glad that we still have combustion engines at all, because the design of the new Z is eerily close to electric cars.
yeah it's funny reading all the hate videos I think the hate is really just the price point, 10k less and people wouldn't complain. Z's have always been a modders dream, and the modds i seen have been nice - everything's working as intended :) - kinda glad nobody really has my car right now xD
But with that price you could get a Toyota Supra and Honda Civic and has more tech and features
@@vincentlarry8440 Well, yes, you could, but in this moment comes truth, if you really love Z's. If you are a nissan fan, you will not take a Honda or Toyota. It's just what design you want (or if you want 4 pistons or 6 pistons, and if you want inline or V engine).
Well stated mate.
Yea but put it in perspective that the car is worth as much as an m2 or an entry level boxter and you get the real problem.
So basically theyrr selling a 90s Nissan sportscar in 2023? Sign me the fuck up.
The stick on black roof is shabby from Nissan. I’m glad he pointed that out.
I've had a 370z for 7 years now and it's incredible to see how similar my car (that is actually now 10 years old) is to the new z. It's like the interior has been slightly changed to included updated gauge and infotainment console, the outside has been simply reskinned, and they added a turbo.
The Z is showing it's age already. I wouldn't sell my 370z to upgrade to this for the price they are asking. Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching!
Your 370 ain't the new Z! They may have similarities but the Z is much better.
@@OhgodImtoosexy So you are the expert are you? 😂 Righto
the new z is basically just a 370z with a vr30 engine. A lot of parts were reused. I have a 370z as well.
@@OhgodImtoosexy you did no research on the new Z, you are wrrooooonnnggggg
100 reasons why this guy's behavior is trashy..😂
Own 2024 Z Performance 6MT - while 'some' of the comments are true, overall the new Z is a pleasure to drive - most car owners in USA don't drive this on a race track every day - they drive and enjoy their Z as a daily driver - 2 big thumbs UP for the new Z - the PROs far outweigh the CONs - that's reality. I really like the suspension - for daily use, it is very comfortable and does not beat you up on bumpy roads. The power is impressive - handling is superb - high quality feel overall - very substantial, tight, and again, the suspension is just right in my opinion of driving many many years. The new Z is 150% FUN, Inc.
Bottom line: at a price point of mid 50's, there is NO COMPETITION to the new Z - the dupedra is not a competitor - if you want to create a list of all the inadequacies of the dupedra, I will guarantee you it will be much longer compared to the Z. From: a happy new Z owner Rock on Nissan!
Take a Peugeot RCZ anyday thankyou for your honesty looks like other reviews are fake sold out
I'm surprised the roof has a sticker. I bet it does not have a spare tire. They look like a old 350Z with a 240Z body kit to me.
No spare tire either mate 😂
I was so excited for the new Z, I think many people were, but when it came out performing like a soft gt cruiser, with a ridiculous price tag, majorly bummed. I'm surprised anybody's even buying them with so many other options.
I haven't seen a single one on the road!!
No one is buying them. I'm in DFW area, still have not seen a single one, or heard anyone even mention them.
Right on dot buddy. Not worth the money. Supra GTR is by far much better.
All things nobody that buys a Nissan would complain about.
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But then the vid would be boring... can we see how the roof holds up against a flame thrower?
@@Powk-mz1cpid like to see ANY roof that holds up against a flamethrower 🤡
I can't believe it's a nissan, reason 15 saved me $50k, thank you man.
Reason 2, the 280ZX Turbo would sit down on the back wheels when you floor it. As a teenager, it was very fun when the front of the car would lift up because I was going “So Fast”.
Got it so new suspension, break pads, removing the fake exhaust speaker sound, new exhaust, and LOTS of anime decals.
I'm trying to get one in black but they aren't selling any in the 150 miles/6 dealer ships I've asked about where I'm at.
So many "manager floor models that aren't for sale"
No jittering mirrors with mine or issues with panel alignment or brakes. Everything else pretty much on the money. Still love it.
Thanks for the honesty! I went from a pre owned 04 350z to a new 09 370z. The wait for this is honestly 😢 Hopefully next full redesign they’ll have R&D $$$
thank you for this, Im definitively keeping my 350z 💀
Keep it alive and nice man, you are sitting in a gem!
the price for me is the real reason it’s shitty dealers are marking them up like no other 😂
57k for sport model here in Maryland. Crazy !!!!!
I believe the stitches defects could possibly be on your car but not only your car. But the suspension issues I see a lot and the tires I hear suck too. What really surprised me is the black two tone is a wrap like wtf is that about! Happy I seen your video and thank you.
Glad it was informative. Thanks for watching!
This is a funny commentary. If this is all that is bad with the Z, then I'll take two.
Some things are just unacceptable from a design and engineering standpoint and some may be attributed to post covid supply chain and labor shortages. Either way for the money they want for that car , they should be embarrassed.
Seriously was about to try and attempt to order a z Nismo tomorrow but after seeing this I might stick with a used M2 Comp
Bro I dont even think the Z can compare to m2 comp
Im impressed with your honestly the suspension issue well that can be fixed but the break issue id be making nissan pay for that
Yeah after fighting a bit I got it covered under warranty.
That’s good news
The suspension can only be fixed so much, you can replace the springs but what if the linkages are crap?
Are the linkages even the same as the 370z I wonder?
Is it a fully independent suspension?
Is it double wishbone?
I mean what are we dealing with in this lemon? Lol
It's brake, not "break".
The internet can't be happy with anything. Supra is a great car (I own one), but everyone hates it. The Nissan Z is a decent car, just needs some tuning/replacement parts (which most people will do anyways). Some will argue that "but but, for $60k...."... it's 2024, a $60k new sports car is the equivalent to the $35k cars 15 years ago. Those $30-$35k cars still needed major modding. Get over it. Be happy Nissan put out a 2 seater, rwd 6 cylinder car.
There are alot of cars in that segment with better quality and performance and comfort. Japanese JDM is kinda dead and it hurts saying that. At least Acura/ Honda look cool but they still suck to drive compared to other cars
This is the standard for how all car reviews should be. 😂
Haha thanks mate
1:27. 👍
If every car review is like this then you should just walk no need to drive dude
A black vinyl sticker not even placed well on the roof. On the Nismo, the extended wheel arches are stickers as well!! Whereas on the competition like the M2 it is actual widened body of the car.
Do you even know that your car has the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car? ADUH??????? That should be your number one reason for saying the Z is trash. Number two should be the color!
Neat picking for content...
Nice recap. I was already hyped on this car until I realized the sport version does not get the comfort package. Both versions should also have vented seats. Oh and it’s Sept 2023 - I have yet to see any Z’s on the road. I read Nissan having paint issues, so big delay in production.
loving the sport personally, hoping to change that in my area - people can't help be look and be wow'd shit's lovely lol, didnt even see heads turn for the porche's that run around. definitely looks better in person - can't wait to drive it tomorrow lol
Stock suspension reminds me of the OG Z31 suspension. That car did a fat squat to go nowhere fast very loudly. I miss mine. It got ran into while it was parked outside of my house :(
You forgot to mention the very shart doors ends that rip through shirts and skin 😅. Seems to me it is the same as the 370z . Which is really bad for first hand owners, but really good for second hand owners since you got z1 motorsport to shop for upgrades (suspension, brake system, clutch, probably master and slave cylinder as well 😂)
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#2 you know squat. Squat gives it forward grip.
As a car enthusiast who wants to upgrade from a Rogue after I graduate college, into my first (working) enthusiast car, I think it's a lofty goal to buy one of these but not impossible nor necessarily bad. These issues are either things I'm already used to from my Rogue or nonissues for me, like the manual seat adjustment. That being said, if I already owned a 370z I would probably not "upgrade", especially at these price points. And tbh, I might as well keep the 370z in mind given how rare these cars are to actually find at your dealer. It's been nearly a year now I think and they still don't seem to have been made in particularly great quantities. And obviously, little has been done by most manufacturers to crack down on parasitic dealerships.
It's definitely amazing how poor the build quality can be on a $50,000 car, manufacturers can't keep using COVID as an excuse for supply chain issues.
most of these seem like non issues - and the z is a enthusiasts dream - excited to see more fun mods and less drag mods being posted. Seems like the content for the Z's has died off Q4 2023
The mirrors fold?? I gotta try mine
Same side driving steering as urs where r u from???
Trust me the guy he buy this want maxing hp upgrade for lower price like old gtr
There is also a big problem where if you tune or try almost any engine mod the engine blows.
This car is ugly BUT Yea, this engine was used for many years on infiniti q50/60 redline sport, and people have tuned them for very good power...for years now. Learn 2 cars before typing 🥴
Racebox, ams and other tuners came to a conclusion that 2018+ ecu is very problematic while and after tuning. I picked up a 2017 q50rs and going on 2 years fbo, ecutek, 477whp running strong.
@@s7v7nfiv5 cool I hate working on this new z only done 5 but they suck
This video is trash. Mostly nitpicks and no mention of the car's good points. What exactly happened to your brakes? We need more context before deciding if that's a real issue.
Bro I've had a 370z for 8 years then they came out with this trash...and they had like 13 years to design this junk
@@Mr.StealYoCat jealous
so im buying a Z in march and of everything iv learned i need to immediately buy some new coil overs and tires, those are the biggest complaints across everybody
Floaty suspension sounds hood for daily drivers tho ?
Nisan Z had the same problem yeas ago, One carry on luggage would not fit in the trunk.
So basically, wait till dealerships can’t sell them and then buy a base model a couple years after, and replace every stock part with aftermarket parts to fix all the shortcomings…
You’re really just paying for the engine, a chassis, and the basic necessities.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Nissan has always been barebones…
Base doesn't come with lsd. Is that a deal breaker?
Maybe , on the left hand drive model the cup holder works , better
Almost spit my coffe out when he talked about the rear camera and realizing you still had 8 feet to go after you got out! Lololol
I love this car, it's up to you how you going to modified it or use it. It's the driver that makes his car a winner.
Um no. It's the car.
You think I should still cancel my Nissan Z order?
I reckon drive one and see for yourself. I can’t really tell you what’s best for you.
@@Coyote350 I’ve driven it but only for about 10 minutes and liked it personally. I’ve just seen a lot of negativity about the new Z that’s all.
Do you regret your decision or are you still happy with yours despite its shortcomings?
@@rummyb7461 I was never planning on keeping it long term. It’s up for sale now. It was merely to have fun for a few months and to make content. If I had more cashflow I’d probably keep it for longer and do some mods. Doing some mods may have convinced me to keep it. I’m still happy with it. Just with Suspension, exhaust and tune the car would be a whole new beast.
@@Coyote350 fair enough 🙂
I just bought my 2023 Z two weeks ago. It is so sick. Mind you, this is the first sports car I've ever owned, and also have driven. I have 0 experience or comparisons to other cars but it is incredible. I drive the automatic which feels great. The engine noises sound great, and although I guess it's amplified/artificial through the speakers it sounds good. I imagine if you wanted something really loud and obnoxious you would modify it anyway.
The suspension does feel soft (I guess?) But the ride quality is absolutely amazing. I use it as a daily driver and I wouldnt want to have a harsh ride everywhere I go for me and my passengers.
The power and speed is insane, again no experience with anything else at this level but it is so much fun to drive. The numbers provided seem to be 0-60 in 4-4.3 seconds for the automatic which is objectively quick.
From my point of view the Z is an excellent car for the average person. I cant speak on behalf of diehard enthusiasts however. I imagine most of the issues people have (exhaust too quiet, suspension too soft, tires, etc) the enthusiasts would modify themselves anyway
As for the other nitpicky reasons it's (trash) I think they are negligible. Side mirrors? Trunk space? Hood? Roof? Etc are non factors. The car looks and feels amazing.
Hopefully this helps your decision. Not to mention you'll be the only one within hundreds of miles driving it. This is a rare car currently and it's fun to own and be seen with one of only a few in the country.
The review was meh and a stretch to say the least.
They will be great used in a few years… just not for $55k and still needing atleast another $7000 in mods to fix many issues
At that point just look at a different vehicle engineered in the last 5 years
To me, those aren't enough reasons to call it "Trash" , or stop buying one for that matter.
Other than the BMW....sorry Toyota Supra, what other manual, rear wheel drive and relatively light sports car at that price is avaliable?
I like the Camaro and Mustang, but they are still too heavy for what I want.
CT4-V and V black wing, Guilia, Miata, BRZ, Q50 (🤢), G70. Depends on what kinda trade offs you wanna make.
Not trash just cool its the 90s again better then a mustang at least it looks good
The only reason I can think of is that a lot of the JDM Fan Boys wanted the full Japanese built car to take down the GR Supra and to prove that the Supra is a mistake to merge with BMW, but sadly it was a back fire… T_T
When a person just looking views on you tube and knows nothing about sports car.
I’m more interested in the review of this open cylinder head designed block & it’s going to have the same issues that plagued the infinity red coupe that shares it
I agree about the automatic side mirrors haha even my 2004 $5000 Nissan Fuga has that. Plus the reversing camera is better than the Z too. LOL. Other than that I love my Z Proto Manual.
Reason 15 is very valid. I will have mine in British racing green or similar color please.
Good rage review… funny stuff
Thanks mate!
AMS Performance has gotten this car into the 9’s. I can forgive most of the 400z’s faults except for one, having to drop the motor to replace the turbos…
Sir you forgot to post the video on april 1st
Love this video 😂
Thanks Brother! 💛
almost every one of these points can be justified by nissan cause either its a sportscar not an SUV, or cause its a sports car thats supposed to be a direct competitor with the new supra... meaning its one of the cheapest.
1. yeah thats sad but whos really gonna care at the end of the day people arent buying z's for the attention to detail.
2. just get coilovers for like 2k more if you dont like it
3. save weight and its not like thats such a negative that you have to point it ouit like i shouldnt buy it JUST for better seat controls.
4. the sticker is a disappointment but once again, who cares, if theres a slight imperfection like that corner just cut it since its just a sticker, or take it off and actually paint it, you can clearly afford a brand new sports car upwards of $40k, spend a bit more to get tthat fixed if you dont like it, or buy a luxury car, not a z.
5. this car was very clearly marketed towards america for left hand drive, so yes as it is kinda bad and i do agree with you on this point, you have other cup holders, 2 seats and 4 cups is weird if you ask me.
6. who cares wtf
7. who cares wtf x2
8. street racing are we? thats illegal.
9. if youre wanting good sound get a mustang, almost any modern car will have bad exhaust.
10. no proof lmao what is this
11. no proof and that must be rough knowing you had to break that hard (fr tho yeah thats kinda a prollem)
12. yeah the quality is bad but other than that just learn how to use a backup camera lmao almost every backup cam does that distance thing. (also the camera was on the grass in the cam you very obv moved it to the rocks for that shot)
13. its like barely off lmao its a budget sports car
14. you literally pointed it out, its a sports car, noobody buys these things for traveling...
i feel like this video was made as a joke, but idc i would love to own this car and if anyone tries to say its still bad, you try making a 400hp twin turbo drift car on this level for under 50k starting from scratch (other than the 370z interior)
I assume the Nismo will get brembos and better suspension. Only 2 real problems solved then. Couldn’t care less about the rest.
it Has 4 Piston brakes ever heard of Akebano Brakes ?
I was a big fan of the 350z. Owned and drove one for 10 years. But, for the price and what’s being offered in this Z, I decided to get a Camaro. Much better car for the value.
Reason #16: The metal strip that runs along the top of the window to the back of the liftback. it ruins an otherwise attractive car.
Am I the only one who absolutely hates this styling cue? Why can't the top match the body color?
bonnet rubs against the body panel if not correctly aligned
I feel like a lot of issues you have with this are fixable with mods anyway. Also for the roof have you heard of vinyl wraps?
Anything is fixable with modifying…
Shouldn't have to modify a brand new sports car for it to be acceptable
the exhaust even aftermarket is all rubbish. the 370z and 350z sounds better
@@jhirmanetan624 probably because of the more restrictive cats and new regulations demand to equip a PPF on every new car with forced induction... 🤷♂
Also me seeing you in this car at lamington national park 👀
Haha that’s a good spotto! Was a nice trip up there. There’s some nice fun little roads.
Yea I only seen like 2 on the road since they came out
I bought a 2019 370z sport pkg with the 6MT new for a little over $33K and have spent a few thousand in intake, exhaust mods and a dyno tune. My car is a good 300lbs lighter than the new Z and puts out nearly as much peak crankshaft horsepower, 387 hp. My car is all-black and has been polished and coated, so that it turns heads and gets compliments. I wouldn't trade it for the new Z, even at the MSRP.
Nice.
Toyota-daihatsu hyperfans from indo really like this video and worshiping supra.
I'll start by acknowledging I did not read all the (currently 411) comments below, but I have to believe this is complete satire. As someone did note below, all of these items outlined by our mealy-mouthed host are completely inconsequential. Full disclosure: I just bought a 2024 Z; Performance Model, 6-Speed Manual. This car is amazing! It is a 3500lb 3.0L Twin Turbo Coupe. Of course is it loads of amazing fun to drive! 😀🤩🥰
I'll be driving that thing so fast you'll never notice those things
Careful, the engine blows up or u get arrested for going over 100 😂
Fuel filler and door handles made it a NO for me.
#17 The special model is that shade of yellow that looks like it's too shades away from goose poop. If nissan had any brains whatsoever they would have made the special model look like the devil z wangan midnight.
Best part is my LHD doesn't have a issue with the cup holders and being a manual 😂😂
How would it being LHD make any difference?
@Coyote350 cause the cup holders don't move from side to side, so therefore I don't hit any drinks in my cup holders when shifting unlike the RHD version
Oh so the handbrake on LHD models is still on the left side of the centre console! I just looked it up, make sense. What doesn’t make sense is why they didn’t do it properly for the RHD models.
@Coyote350 yeah that definitely is weird, they did get lazy with alot on these cars.
I liked the concept of the Z but thought the gr corolla was more unique and built well. I couldn't get over the Z being 2023 car with a parts bin of older tech. eg the body, manual trans, suspension & handling, some interior parts and switches. Plus Nissan is in bed with Mitsubishi and Renault and seems like a dying company made me pass
the only Z car Nissan tried to build with quality
was Z32
i have an 09 base manual 370z since new w/35k miles. i wish i had all of that luxury, rear view cam, hill assist wow! dont even have rev match. the top sticker is not too bad for me...will help protect the actual roof from bird crap , and the elements to help it last longer. all the other stuff like suspension and brakes can be swapped out easily. its a purpose built car. dont take it to go food shopping. take your corolla.
The reason why the new Z does not meet your expectations is because it is basically a "parts bin car". A new body built on the old chassis. Nissan almost went bankrumpt a few years ago. And they tried to build a car on a ~10 year chassis. The build quality is bad because it is a Nissan. If you want a car with better build quality, then buy a Toyota Supra.
Oh yeah all your complaints just means you’ll be happier in an automatic Miata
Nothing you said changes my mind it’s not perfect, but for the price it’s pretty solid
i own a 2021 370z if i get it turbo my car looks better and has more power on top its cheaper
1 Reason above all else: I've never actually seen one being driven. Ever. I live in Idaho and I see Lambos and McLarens and a 250 California. Never seen a new Z.
I’m still buying one
This video is for people that aren't car enthusiast. This is a car to have fun when ever you want, where ever you want while adding some "daily driver" perks to it. "Outdated tech" or "Better Reverse Camera Than A Civic" than get a civic. Overall if your watching this video to find decent flaws of this car, this isn't the video for you and probably anyone that isn't a child.
15 reasons? There are too many to mention. The worst one, I truly believe Nissan said to the self, let’s spend more on marketing this than developing it. It’s ugly, slow, no soul or charisma. Somebody fire the person in charge of this project .
this car,if it had not taken the basis of the old one it would have cost the price of a Lamborghini.
so being able to collect parts from Nissan and Infinity to make a new car is a stroke of genius
ALL IT IS, IS A 370 WITH A DIFFERENT ENGINE. ALL COSMETIC IMPROVEMENTS, BUT CHARGING $20,000 MORE. I’D MUCH RATHER PAY EXTRA AND GET A C-8 ‘VETTE.
Nissan made a sports car that sounds like crap with average acceleration that can't handle which would cost 10k to fix. I'll just buy an M2.
In Australia this car is considerably cheaper than an M2. Over in the US however, it is a pretty viable option. The new Nissan Z can handle pretty well, it just is not confident at doing it at all if that makes sense. 0-100 acceleration isn’t anything special but my gosh is the 100-200 a different car.
Could just get the sport exhaust
@@anthonyfields3856 Doesn’t come on the manual model.
I loved this video. I don't own a nissan but it was just funny to watch.
Sounds great, I want one!
The camera thing you went too far bro😂😂😂
😂😂😅
Or not far enough...😏
NISSANS MARKET CAP IS 14 BILLION.... IT WOULD BE 2 BILLION IF NOT FOR THE ROGUE.
Im glad i picked up a 2018 Nismo 370z instead of ordering and waiting for this. It is very nice but not refined like a Nismo Model
You have 2 wonder what the fucks going on when your breaks give up like that.
I had a Nissan 200 sx lovely car when they first came out bulletproof really.
Nismo 👍
This seems extremely nitpicky. None of this would stray me away from it
just get a wrx and shutup, respectfully. there's a reason why they are so popular. cheaper, reliable, fun, and oh AWD!
z32 will always be the best z chassis for many reasons. sure its bulky, outdated in lots of ways, hard to work on, but damn if it doesnt feel so amazing. best driving experience i have ever had. i will never sell my z
You're way better off buying a lightly used 370Z and modding it. The aftermarket tuning community for these things is enormous, parts are readily available, and they're built on the proven VQ37VHR platform. The new Z is frankly just overpriced for what it is.
Depends what your after. You’d need to dump a lot of money into a 370z to get it as fast as this. You’d need to turn it FI
@Coyote350 You wouldn't need FI. The new Z gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds. With intakes, a full exhaust system, and a tune on a 370 you could hit that mark for around $6,000 USD. To each his own, but personally I'd rather put that into a low mileage $25,000 car than pay 40 or 50 grand for the new Z if the performance value is the same.
@@GixxerRider1991 0-100 the new Nissan Z isn’t that much faster. But having extensively driven this and my 350 it’s the 100-200 that absolutely shits on the 350z/370z. I just casually hit 202Kmh last night. To do that in my 350z it takes 8 business days in comparison. I get what your saying and you could still buy a 370z and turbo it for cheaper. But you’ve always been able to buy a cheaper car and make it faster 🤷🏻♂️
The power difference on the new z over the old is night and day… the old ones just lost a lot of value
Two different beasts. Vq37 is a great na motor (costs 10k+ for fi of your choice, thats just parts for the aam tt, or sc), vr30 is also a great motor.