To make it short What they made with the entire thing wasnt a nerf, it was a hotfix and some tweaks (if we dont count the kraken tentacles thing) They kept the challenge the boss already has but removed the bugs Thats why it feels like a nerf
the devs actually knew they screwed up with the boss fight like phase 2 all what u could do for the krakens is literally pray that 50 doesn't spawn on u and on phase 3 u also would always pray that guide somehow doesn't do ultra instinct move(tps behind u) then slaps u into 2 falling rocks on each other so yeah the boss fight was MAINLY based on luck now u actually have a great chance to get it by skills
For any one wandering from a gameplay perspective NIW is not easier with this update in fact it’s practically the same difficulty as the only hard part of NIW is phase 3 which got no nerfs and also the devs patched all speed methods to geting to guide so you can now loose runs at potato lord which is realy annoying so to sum up all this update did was make it harder for NIW and slightly make it easier for normal players
bro i got nah i do win without losing a single heart after kraken nerfs guide phase 2 and 3 much easiers (just learn a stratgy and yo uwill cheese guide phase 3)
@@Hovsik teleport slap was fixed, but not fixed entirely, guide chooses where to teleport to when he starts using the ability and he can no longer choose a place thats next to you, BUT while he's teleporting you might move TOWARDS his teleport destination which causes him to teleport next to you and slap you, i recommend standing still if there are no meteors while hes standing still
Today when i got phase three i had two trackers on me, two metoers falling on me, and a golem yet I took no cutscene damage. When it was over, everything was gone.
The whole thing up to phase three is a breeze (well phase two is a little chaotic) but ofc the dreaded guide 1v1 is just way to rng and for a mobile player, flicking is way to hard. So I’d really hope he is nerfed so he has a bigger hitbox and doesn’t completely anime me out of this world.
This nerf did NOT make the boss fight any easier, except if you're trying to get avatar Sure getting comboed to death wont happen anymore and there's less tentacles which only reduces the rng in that boss fight but the thing is there were no nerfs to the actual harder parts that made the fight hard like the pushers sometimes spawning right on you and messing your camera in the 2nd phase or the fact that one mistake with the golem which is really easy to make could sell you the whole fight
@@AbsoluteMicroDevThat’s not what they said/implied💀 It’s true, the only part they nerfed was the kraken tentacles, and the rest are basically just things that should’ve been added before to avoid glitches and bugs
For anyone like me wondering that iFrames are, basically iFrames are frames where you can't take any damage at all. Because of the combo potential on phase 2 with kraken tentacles and meteors they added iFrames for everytime you get hit.
Phase 3 don’t need a nerf guide has a pattern and when you learn it he’s really easy to kill My friend taught me it and I went from dying within 30 seconds to being 4 hits away every time Edit: I finally got avatar :D
Well when he's going forward he could instantly go backwards and then slap you, and slap trading exists, also I almost killed him like 4 times, I was one hit away, 2 hits away and 4 hits away
you’re not supposed to attack him when he goes backwards, only when he’s walking toward you. if you try to attack him while he steps back, you will get slapped.
Ngl.. I still think guide is harder than Slapstractor 💀💀. It is probably because I haven’t mastered of not getting hit by guide. To me it is unpredictable to know if he’s going to go forward or to the side when he goes backwards
honestly the tentacle spam was never really a problem for me since only a few would spawn near the edge of the arena for me and that’s where i usually stayed. I will say though a TON of them would spawn in the center as you’ve probably seen and if you were near the center you had to either get lucky or be really good at dodging them. definitely needed a nerf but they absolutely gutted that attack to where it’s a non-issue
What really needs a nerf is potato lord. When you hit him with the potato he runs up to you with basically double your speed and then “there goes my nah I’d win run :/“
@@YourAverageNPC1604 I’ve been doing nah I’d win runs for a while and I usually mess up in the guide fight, but potato lord I have not failed once in my 13 runs (so far) Do you know the trick to kill him like everytime?
@xTlsBob4 conveyor is really slow bro it's not yeeting you off, it makes more sense for a meteor to yeet you off so this correction makes barely any sense and is more "incorrecting" than correcting
I remember once, instead of having a golem that kills me during phase 3 cutscene, there were not ONE but TWO golems on me, I could have survived if there was only one :(
nah i'd win is barely any easier, guide's and potato lord's hitbox is too big and s dont exist you can still die by meteors. tencell is fr lying i hate this update they fixed /e dance2 cheese and lied abt the other updates
Ok, here is my experience with trying to get Avatar, Slapstractor is not hard but not easy, but Guide is insane, it makes people think that he can read minds, but Guide has bugs, here are the bugs: 1. When Guide was ragdolled, he had the flash activated, he passed into me and slap me when we was still ragdolled. 2. When i was about to win, Guide instantly disappeared out of the platform, and i was devastated when that happened me like 3 times. Slapstractor's bug was fixed and it got a bit nerfed, but Guide got a slight buff, but still have bugs. (And i like the bossfight, is challenging and entertaining, but it stills have bugs that the developers haven't notice it yet)
I'd say the "Nah, I'd win" badge is actually fair to get now, seeing that there has to be some level of difficulty for such an overpowered glove, but still easy enough to not encourage people to quit right before they get their possibly winning attempt.
2:00 that's cap because s really do exist because if you look at 1:54 you got hit by a meteor then when your character unragdolled itself you got hit again, the s are for when you get ragdolled so you don't get wombo comboed+ last night after the update i got hit by a kraken but then i landed right at where a meteor was dropping but i was ragdolled and didnt get hit so the s aren't a lie they do exist now.
the problem is that the s only apply during ragdoll, ragdoll lasts a second aka enough time for stuff to spawn on top of you yet only hit you immediately after you get up what happened to rudy happened to me on a nah id win run and needless to say waking up in the middle of a meteor shadow that is already 90 percent red was not a pleasant experience
@@ZaidBaissa like he said its so you dont get mega comboed and get hit every milisecond being comboed is part of the challenge its just bc when you are ragdolls lets say u barely touch a meteor while ragdolled and die but if u stand up you could run the second before it gets you weird example but its an example
@@johndarvill6369 thats what i mean Since you guys tried so hard prob to get it and now it's seems that the boss is nerfed It's like buying sm and after some days the same thing is in a discount ☠️
Now it all makes sense, yesterday i got Relude and it was very easy, and also in one moment i was ragdolled and 3 kraken tentacles hit, i didn't know it was nerfed so i was confused when those 3 tentacles didn't damage me at all
0:14 i’m so happy for this, I lost an entire run because guide fell over and didn’t stand up anymore he got soft locked while ragdoll and I couldn’t do anything about it
@@ZaidBaissa It is actually REALLY helpfull, one time yesterday i got hit by like 3 tentacles and i would have died, it is helpfull when you have as bad luck as me i guess.
I’m happy that they made it easier because when slapstractor previously had low health in my battle, I didn’t expect it to become way buffer and I died in just 10 sec
Bait them and try to make them attack while they are rising out of the ground, BUT don't make them attack as soon as they appear otherwise they will be invincible to your za hando slap
Fun fact a long time ago : To get the soft lock in guide boss fight Was if you hit the guide 3 times in a row It happened to me when my friend Colty161114 did it and lost my chance to get hunter 😢
I got avatar on the day of this update, so I can say that it was much easier, the tentacle spam and the bug in the cutscene in phase 3 ruined my runs, but that doesn't mean it was that easy because of the phase 3 and the teleport the guide being much shorter increases the chances of him slapping you through the teleport, this has happened to me about 3 times so be careful in phase 3, and he can teleport to you to give you a combo taking 2 hp, this also happened to me, my final conclusions are: W nerf
This bug fix made it significantly easier because most of my runs ended because of bugs. For example, getting killed during the cutscene or the track hands hitting me before counting it as a hit (I get hit by the track hand and then I see the slap effect and the slap sound right where I got hit) I’m not saying that this is a nerf (except the kraken arms being reduced) because most of the changes to the fight are fixing the bugs that were there but now are fixed and I’m happy to say after 2 weeks, I finally got the Avatar glove on my phone
I AM REALLY MAD. I got it today, when it was nerfed. I would like to get it without nerfs, and this now demostrates that I'm a total noob. I just needed more time, but the nerfs came in. I mean, THE NERFS AREN'T THAAAAT CRAZY, just some tiny stuff, and the kraken spam is easy if you stay on the edge and that's it, and I did not get comboed one single time, so I'm just gonna asume that I got the glove before the nerfs!!! 🔥 in the 🕳️
They also made the track projectiles much more easy to hit now you dont need to move in order to not get hit by the track gloves you can just stand still and slap them
for everyone saying skill issue you need to understand how rng based it is slap trading with guide is still an issue which it shouldn’t be when guide ragdolls he shouldn’t be able to slap
The most important changes half of them art even true guide can still teleport behind you, the I-frames are only when you ragdoll but whenever you ragdoll it’s not even 1 second long and most of the time you get flung to the edge of the map an get hit of and die
I believe they should make phase 3 for people going single with no health regen easier, but for people in groups with health regen and extra hearts they should not nerf guide in any form from the previous
my thoughts on the nerfs: potato lord (in my opinion) still needs nerfs (no this doesn't include cheeses being added back, but rather him having less speed) the tentacle reduction is certainly really helpful because its no longer as rng based in the 2nd phase the cutscene damage fix definitely helps (from what i know you cant get hit by meteors or be pushed by anything) 3rd phase should probably stay as is, but an idea would be meteors being able to damage guide too. not totally necessary but its an idea.
the meteors should be removed, they only exist to waste time because youre never actually gonna get hit by one unless you fumble, and yeah potato lord is super annoying
I don't think it's very fair how when a hand was coming at you meteors came as well it's probably near impossible to avoid taking damage in a situation like that
To anyone wondering THEY DID ADD I-FRAMES, The s only work when you are ragdolled. As you see Rudy said the s were a lie but that isnt true because he un-ragdolled before the other meteors hit him, And i did in fact tested the s and they were there.
I feel like considering how unique avatar was, they just should have fixed bugs that made it harder, like the cutscene kills or i frames but not the potato cheese
I don't know about Red light and green light room and potato lord but i feel like i can only do if i had better laptop or pc to get rid of the lagging. Anything besides those two are doable, as long as i don't die from it. Getting retro glove is easier as long as the camera didn't ruin my run, although getting "admin" glove need few trial and errors. Getting kraken glove is somehow easy, just need rng to make sure there is no 3-in-a-row tentacles will appear right on your spot. I can try getting rob glove if i need it for creating the null portal, just need to know if the lagging is worse on your mobile.
Honestly they should’ve made it so you could still cheese the potato lord behind the gate but then the gate would open and there would also be a border that only blocks you not the potato lord
Theres another secret i saw no youtubers talking about here. After slapping with your lantern glove, theres still a short 1 second active on the glove meaning after you slapped it will still hit something a second later when it touches
i don’t think it needs anymore bug fixes or nerfs(except if they were fixed and aren’t for some reason). i struggled to get nah id win but it seems like a cake walk with these fixes. rare development W’s.
Nah I’d win was technically nerfed but not by making it easier (I’m excluding the tentacle spam being removed and I frames because 90% of the changes were bug fixes not nerfs like the tentacles and I frames) it was made easier by removing the bugs that made nah I’d win a lot harder
@Nancleox The thing that should be nerfed is the slap trade when u slap guide he instantly slaps u back which makes it very difficult for Nah I'd win badge.
Yeah, they should make it the exact way as it is in slap royale, I mean slap trading is impossible in slap royale because you basically get immunity to your opponents slap if you slap them first
Wow that's great buy nerf ?! The fix and balance are good and fine but guide no longer teleports behind you isn't making it hard anymore... now it's easier :(
I got it today on mobile. I really wanted potato lord to have knock back and it did. I hated when Guide kept teleporting next to me. Thank god they fixed it. I don’t think they should nerf anything since avatar is overpowered
2:00 the reason u got combo is cus you don’t have I frames when you are up but when you are ragdolled you can’t get hit witch even doing that doesn’t fix the problem at all it just makes it a little less likely
Do you think nah I'd win is easier now?
@@Nancleox yeah
honestly yes and no
I am big fan
Yea I just got it today
Slightly
1:55 the s did not apply because you stood up and then got hit. The s only apply when you are ragdolled.
What are I frames
@@LovelyAstronaut-qy7qxthese are invicible frames
Yea, Rudy just got unlucky and kept getting up when the I frames ended
Maybe the s should just last longer
Nahh then it be 2 easy
To make it short
What they made with the entire thing wasnt a nerf, it was a hotfix and some tweaks (if we dont count the kraken tentacles thing)
They kept the challenge the boss already has but removed the bugs
Thats why it feels like a nerf
the devs actually knew they screwed up with the boss fight like phase 2 all what u could do for the krakens is literally pray that 50 doesn't spawn on u and on phase 3 u also would always pray that guide somehow doesn't do ultra instinct move(tps behind u) then slaps u into 2 falling rocks on each other so yeah the boss fight was MAINLY based on luck now u actually have a great chance to get it by skills
For any one wandering from a gameplay perspective NIW is not easier with this update in fact it’s practically the same difficulty as the only hard part of NIW is phase 3 which got no nerfs and also the devs patched all speed methods to geting to guide so you can now loose runs at potato lord which is realy annoying so to sum up all this update did was make it harder for NIW and slightly make it easier for normal players
They should just add 2 more tentacles to the kraken glove in phase 2 and make slap trading with guide disabled (or impossible)
dude they removed teleport slap, that was one of the most prominent NIW run enders, 2 attempts after the update dropped i got niw
bro i got nah i do win without losing a single heart after kraken nerfs guide phase 2 and 3 much easiers
(just learn a stratgy and yo uwill cheese guide phase 3)
@@Viocuralets teleport slap is still there, he did that to me yesterday L fix
@@Hovsik teleport slap was fixed, but not fixed entirely, guide chooses where to teleport to when he starts using the ability and he can no longer choose a place thats next to you, BUT while he's teleporting you might move TOWARDS his teleport destination which causes him to teleport next to you and slap you, i recommend standing still if there are no meteors while hes standing still
The cutscene bug makes it so that the attacks are still there during the cutscene
Like the wind still blows DURING the cutscene
And everything else
3:33 there's a good chance that they DID fix the player dying during the phase 3 cutsence as you didn't get pushed by conveyor when phase 3 started
I died today by it
@@mozaidkyou probably got hit by something before the cutsence started
I died by the cutscene but it was the meteors
@camcam7551 nope I was just on a metoer
Today when i got phase three i had two trackers on me, two metoers falling on me, and a golem yet I took no cutscene damage. When it was over, everything was gone.
The whole thing up to phase three is a breeze (well phase two is a little chaotic) but ofc the dreaded guide 1v1 is just way to rng and for a mobile player, flicking is way to hard. So I’d really hope he is nerfed so he has a bigger hitbox and doesn’t completely anime me out of this world.
It looks easier from your pov, thanks for the info Rudy!
The gats cuz he was using regen
great content as always and my chicken rudy absolutely hates me now
Why?
Hey, wait a minute... I saw one of your replies about your chicken on one of his other videos!
@@Eternal_Goose I saw it as well too lol
I saw ur other comment too lol
This nerf did NOT make the boss fight any easier, except if you're trying to get avatar
Sure getting comboed to death wont happen anymore and there's less tentacles which only reduces the rng in that boss fight but the thing is there were no nerfs to the actual harder parts that made the fight hard like the pushers sometimes spawning right on you and messing your camera in the 2nd phase or the fact that one mistake with the golem which is really easy to make could sell you the whole fight
yea
S-skill
I-issue
PUSHER is really easy tbh,all you need to do is tab glicth
@@TheMashuChannel shut it
@@ArmeeverbandFreiesEuropamobile players:
This doesn’t look like a Nerf. This looks like a bug fix.
Bro just be good at the game
what do you mean
@@AbsoluteMicroDevThat’s not what they said/implied💀
It’s true, the only part they nerfed was the kraken tentacles, and the rest are basically just things that should’ve been added before to avoid glitches and bugs
@@DeIariousWhirIwind and the track hitbox (that might be a bug fix idk)
@@bokon157 the message said "ISSUES with the hitbox" so we can assume the hitbox was not working as intended, so itd be a bug fix
For anyone like me wondering that iFrames are, basically iFrames are frames where you can't take any damage at all. Because of the combo potential on phase 2 with kraken tentacles and meteors they added iFrames for everytime you get hit.
unless there are more glitches, keep nah id win as it is. please. both sides should be fine now then.
One more glitch we can all agree needs patched and that is the ground golem
@@optimusfan1007 yes definitely
@@optimusfan1007 when you hit the golem spin in a circle on the golem and you will be fine
@@optimusfan1007among us car too
No we still need phase 3 to be fixed plus the immense lagg
Honestly the tentecul nerf is a blessing to us on Xbox because we can’t zoom to far to see past walls and the tentacles would just keep hiting us
Phase 3 don’t need a nerf guide has a pattern and when you learn it he’s really easy to kill
My friend taught me it and I went from dying within 30 seconds to being 4 hits away every time
Edit: I finally got avatar :D
Well when he's going forward he could instantly go backwards and then slap you, and slap trading exists, also I almost killed him like 4 times, I was one hit away, 2 hits away and 4 hits away
you’re not supposed to attack him when he goes backwards, only when he’s walking toward you. if you try to attack him while he steps back, you will get slapped.
@@nothoughts_heademtywhen I try to do that my guy jumps over my attack and hits me
@@Fallen2763 wth guide isn’t programmed to jump wdym
Ngl.. I still think guide is harder than Slapstractor 💀💀. It is probably because I haven’t mastered of not getting hit by guide. To me it is unpredictable to know if he’s going to go forward or to the side when he goes backwards
These were mostly just the bugs that made guide boss unfair, and it was only being nerfed by having less tentacle spam
But sadly, the glitch that makes you go outside of the map is fixed. At least the guide got nerfed so we can get avatar easier :D
Yea I’m not gonna even try anymore all for some stupid glove.
It’s worth the torture, just keep going
@@Gl1tched101 it isnt
@@SecondSeer it’s not a dumb glove, actually it’s really broken
@@tomiaust5304 alright your thoughts not mine just sayin
honestly the tentacle spam was never really a problem for me since only a few would spawn near the edge of the arena for me and that’s where i usually stayed.
I will say though a TON of them would spawn in the center as you’ve probably seen and if you were near the center you had to either get lucky or be really good at dodging them. definitely needed a nerf but they absolutely gutted that attack to where it’s a non-issue
What really needs a nerf is potato lord. When you hit him with the potato he runs up to you with basically double your speed and then “there goes my nah I’d win run :/“
They did that to avoid the potato lord cage glitch
Potato lord ez bro I have beat him literally every run, what kills people is the guide fight
@@kinge.-_-.e well most times it’s easy but if you’re trying to get a nah I’d win run and you get unlucky then you’ll probably have to restart
@@YourAverageNPC1604 I’ve been doing nah I’d win runs for a while and I usually mess up in the guide fight, but potato lord I have not failed once in my 13 runs (so far)
Do you know the trick to kill him like everytime?
I just use the bilify method where you make him run into the gates and unable to move then at 3 seconds slap him
YOU KNOW IT'S A GOOD DAY WHEN RUDY UPLOADS 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
I love it when the meteor yeets me off the map whilst I’m in the phase 3 cutscene
Conveyor*
No I got hit by a meteor
@xTlsBob4 conveyor is really slow bro it's not yeeting you off, it makes more sense for a meteor to yeet you off so this correction makes barely any sense and is more "incorrecting" than correcting
@@xTlsBob4 average kid thinking they are cool:
I remember once, instead of having a golem that kills me during phase 3 cutscene, there were not ONE but TWO golems on me, I could have survived if there was only one :(
nah i'd win is barely any easier, guide's and potato lord's hitbox is too big and s dont exist you can still die by meteors. tencell is fr lying i hate this update they fixed /e dance2 cheese and lied abt the other updates
dude i frames exist but only when you are ragdolled
U are just bad at the game
@@Ezzyy73Ezzyy73 shut up
@@Random--Games it does? bruh its too weak tf?
@@Random--Games u saw rudy get comboed and Lose 3 hearts in 5 seconds
Looks ez, but with 500 ping every 1 minute, + the tracks hitbox is now bigger or smaller i heard bout, makes harder for me 😭🙏
2:03 I frames did get added I found that out in one of my test runs
Ok, here is my experience with trying to get Avatar, Slapstractor is not hard but not easy, but Guide is insane, it makes people think that he can read minds, but Guide has bugs, here are the bugs:
1. When Guide was ragdolled, he had the flash activated, he passed into me and slap me when we was still ragdolled.
2. When i was about to win, Guide instantly disappeared out of the platform, and i was devastated when that happened me like 3 times.
Slapstractor's bug was fixed and it got a bit nerfed, but Guide got a slight buff, but still have bugs.
(And i like the bossfight, is challenging and entertaining, but it stills have bugs that the developers haven't notice it yet)
This is what we needed the whole time. No nerfs, just bug fixes (or idk if it’s bugs fixes)
There was a nerf to the kraken spam and they added temporary i-frames when you get hit, and that's it to the nerfs I think
Sad
I'd say the "Nah, I'd win" badge is actually fair to get now, seeing that there has to be some level of difficulty for such an overpowered glove, but still easy enough to not encourage people to quit right before they get their possibly winning attempt.
I'm quitting
2:00 that's cap because s really do exist because if you look at 1:54 you got hit by a meteor then when your character unragdolled itself you got hit again, the s are for when you get ragdolled so you don't get wombo comboed+ last night after the update i got hit by a kraken but then i landed right at where a meteor was dropping but i was ragdolled and didnt get hit so the s aren't a lie they do exist now.
the problem is that the s only apply during ragdoll, ragdoll lasts a second aka enough time for stuff to spawn on top of you yet only hit you immediately after you get up
what happened to rudy happened to me on a nah id win run and needless to say waking up in the middle of a meteor shadow that is already 90 percent red was not a pleasant experience
@@ZaidBaissa like he said its so you dont get mega comboed and get hit every milisecond being comboed is part of the challenge its just bc when you are ragdolls lets say u barely touch a meteor while ragdolled and die but if u stand up you could run the second before it gets you weird example but its an example
i dont think its that much easier but the tentacle nerf came in clutch (maybe you should nerf phase 3 a little bit)
I don't have avatar but i still feel kinda bad for those who spent hours just to get avatar glove
took me 13 - 16 attempts to get avatar
@@johndarvill6369 thats what i mean
Since you guys tried so hard prob to get it and now it's seems that the boss is nerfed
It's like buying sm and after some days the same thing is in a discount ☠️
@@Eclipse53682 10-13 attempts are extremely few, minimum is like 100💀
@@Eclipse53682 yes, I'm kinda mad
@@Eclipse53682it’s not even a nerf just a bug fix
Honestly, they need to nerf stage 3 because when i slap him, he instantly gets a hit on me no matter where I slap him...
did you lightly flick him?
I'm on xbox, so it would be hard
@@A-KnightGaming oh
@@flowofcalamity0 bruh
Now it all makes sense, yesterday i got Relude and it was very easy, and also in one moment i was ragdolled and 3 kraken tentacles hit, i didn't know it was nerfed so i was confused when those 3 tentacles didn't damage me at all
SAME i instantly got hunter and relude and was confused why phase 2 was suddenly so easy
Give phase 2 +2 krakens
Yo rudy! I have one question does gravity tencells artist make your cool thumbnails with the art?
0:14 i’m so happy for this, I lost an entire run because guide fell over and didn’t stand up anymore he got soft locked while ragdoll and I couldn’t do anything about it
cant you unequip and reequip your glove to be able to slap somebody who is ragodolled though?
@@Godd858 not when he was doing it.
The nah i'd win badge is truly easier but i can't take off my head the idea of killing myself after dying to guide WITH 1 SLAP HEALTH
YES FINALLY❤
@@iwillnotmakevideosfym it was added
@@iwillnotmakevideos its added but only during ragdoll, which doesnt mean anything since it lasts a second total meaning u wont sht
@@ZaidBaissa1 second is a lot. You won’t get double slapped by the guide, you won’t get hit from a track and meteor at the same time, etc.
@@ZaidBaissa It is actually REALLY helpfull, one time yesterday i got hit by like 3 tentacles and i would have died, it is helpfull when you have as bad luck as me i guess.
@@germanmatosas1373 most the times i die in phase 2 are because of kraken your not the only one with bad luck ☠
I’m happy that they made it easier because when slapstractor previously had low health in my battle, I didn’t expect it to become way buffer and I died in just 10 sec
Bro I died when guide was one hit and now I’m so frustrated because this process is so long and my wifi sucks
I can understand you(i died when guide was 2 hits)
Sounds like EMOTIONAL PAIN
I feel you (i never get past slapping him 5 times)
I was trying to get avatar and I didnt noticed this update, thanks rudy
Hey Rudy, I’m trying to get avatar, but the golems keep killing me, any tips on how to avoid them?
Bait them and try to make them attack while they are rising out of the ground, BUT don't make them attack as soon as they appear otherwise they will be invincible to your za hando slap
Fun fact a long time ago : To get the soft lock in guide boss fight Was if you hit the guide 3 times in a row It happened to me when my friend Colty161114 did it and lost my chance to get hunter 😢
I got avatar on the day of this update, so I can say that it was much easier, the tentacle spam and the bug in the cutscene in phase 3 ruined my runs, but that doesn't mean it was that easy because of the phase 3 and the teleport the guide being much shorter increases the chances of him slapping you through the teleport, this has happened to me about 3 times so be careful in phase 3, and he can teleport to you to give you a combo taking 2 hp, this also happened to me, my final conclusions are: W nerf
I got it on the day of the nerf too, W nerf :)
This bug fix made it significantly easier because most of my runs ended because of bugs. For example, getting killed during the cutscene or the track hands hitting me before counting it as a hit (I get hit by the track hand and then I see the slap effect and the slap sound right where I got hit) I’m not saying that this is a nerf (except the kraken arms being reduced) because most of the changes to the fight are fixing the bugs that were there but now are fixed and I’m happy to say after 2 weeks, I finally got the Avatar glove on my phone
Unskilled
@@TheCrocodileGuy ok..
I AM REALLY MAD. I got it today, when it was nerfed. I would like to get it without nerfs, and this now demostrates that I'm a total noob. I just needed more time, but the nerfs came in. I mean, THE NERFS AREN'T THAAAAT CRAZY, just some tiny stuff, and the kraken spam is easy if you stay on the edge and that's it, and I did not get comboed one single time, so I'm just gonna asume that I got the glove before the nerfs!!! 🔥 in the 🕳️
@@asfef-f9-iq32 should've been happy for people
You said that it makes you look like a noob and right after you said they were tiny nerfs💀💀
i would expect people who got nah id win before it was nerfed to be complaining, not people who got it after.
Ghiaccho calm down cuh 💀
Nah, I'm quitting
They also made the track projectiles much more easy to hit now you dont need to move in order to not get hit by the track gloves you can just stand still and slap them
NERF BOB ETERNAL BOSS 😭🙏
nah bro it ain’t that hard
fix*
No noon L
skill issue its easier than guide bossfight
@@Jawadball No way you think guide is harder than rob, unless you mean nah Id win
I hate this boss fight so much, as soon I was about to save him, the game automatically decides for me and chooses to knock him off.
*WE NEED PHASE 3 NERFFFFFFF BRO HE IS SPAM JUMPING U CANT EVEN HIT HIM AND I ALWAYS DIE THERE*
increase skill
Yes please!
@@yumm_6 bruh I always pass phase 2 and phase 1 I just lose everytime when he is at %50 health bar or %20 he goes crazy
Skill issue
for everyone saying skill issue you need to understand how rng based it is slap trading with guide is still an issue which it shouldn’t be when guide ragdolls he shouldn’t be able to slap
The most important changes half of them art even true guide can still teleport behind you, the I-frames are only when you ragdoll but whenever you ragdoll it’s not even 1 second long and most of the time you get flung to the edge of the map an get hit of and die
BRO THEY HAVE TO FIX THIS LAG
it also makes phase 2 slightly less luck based
I believe they should make phase 3 for people going single with no health regen easier, but for people in groups with health regen and extra hearts they should not nerf guide in any form from the previous
I think in phase 3 the guide can hit you sometimes on a long distance
The fact that npcs start jumping is crazy though
my thoughts on the nerfs:
potato lord (in my opinion) still needs nerfs (no this doesn't include cheeses being added back, but rather him having less speed)
the tentacle reduction is certainly really helpful because its no longer as rng based in the 2nd phase
the cutscene damage fix definitely helps (from what i know you cant get hit by meteors or be pushed by anything)
3rd phase should probably stay as is, but an idea would be meteors being able to damage guide too. not totally necessary but its an idea.
Yesterday an meteor spawned in my face 2 seconds before cutscene and i got dmg so i think meteor can still dmg u if the cutscene starts.
the meteors should be removed, they only exist to waste time because youre never actually gonna get hit by one unless you fumble, and yeah potato lord is super annoying
No guide shouldn't get by those meteors that would be so much easier
Buddy they didn't decease the krakens they just made them slower and maybe decrease them but they should probably add 2 more krakens in phase 2 tbh
I don't think it's very fair how when a hand was coming at you meteors came as well it's probably near impossible to avoid taking damage in a situation like that
To anyone wondering THEY DID ADD I-FRAMES, The s only work when you are ragdolled. As you see Rudy said the s were a lie but that isnt true because he un-ragdolled before the other meteors hit him, And i did in fact tested the s and they were there.
I feel like considering how unique avatar was, they just should have fixed bugs that made it harder, like the cutscene kills or i frames but not the potato cheese
I still hate the fact you have to do a totally different quest just to get avatar but at least its kind of easier now.
Guys chill it was a minor nerf, the tentacle spam was legit unfair and the boss is already balanced enough
And now it's really unfair for people who got it before nerf
Cool video. Btw i gotta correct you with the , they did add the . I suppose when you stand up you dont get anymore.
Back in my day we never had any bug fixes or nerfs just the plain hard difficulty
I don't know about Red light and green light room and potato lord but i feel like i can only do if i had better laptop or pc to get rid of the lagging. Anything besides those two are doable, as long as i don't die from it.
Getting retro glove is easier as long as the camera didn't ruin my run, although getting "admin" glove need few trial and errors.
Getting kraken glove is somehow easy, just need rng to make sure there is no 3-in-a-row tentacles will appear right on your spot.
I can try getting rob glove if i need it for creating the null portal, just need to know if the lagging is worse on your mobile.
they made it fair.
i beat the guide bossfight days ago
2:06
Him not thinking if having i-frames when ragdolled is just sanity
you mean insanity?
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ty gor this next it helps now I don't r8e at phase m2 instead phase 3 when I'm trying get avatar
the s are false, i got comboed on phase 3, guide slapped me then i fell into a meteor then into another one and died, also i was ragdolled all time
HEY, DO ANOTHER PARTO OF SURPRISING HACKERS IN KS ONLY , THERE IS A LOT MORE OF HACKERS BECAUSE THE 1000 KILLS UPDATE PLS
Grasias rudy por avisarnos habia de hecho mas de 20 intentos en un solo dia
bro i got it JUST before this nerf and im so mad
people who did the same deserve recognition!
True
Phase 3 has been needed, now guide can no longer teleport right on you and get a free slap, which before could cost you your run
Honestly they should’ve made it so you could still cheese the potato lord behind the gate but then the gate would open and there would also be a border that only blocks you not the potato lord
Once I get home from my trip with good internet I can FINALLY try to attempt the boss fight with all I’ve learned.
Theres another secret i saw no youtubers talking about here. After slapping with your lantern glove, theres still a short 1 second active on the glove meaning after you slapped it will still hit something a second later when it touches
Bassicaly after you slap the slap hitbox is still here allowing to hit?
thats just called ping my guy
Im so glad i got this glove before the nerf, i feel a lot more accomplished
In my opinion the guide fight is easier because I could not beat him until the update came out. The most epic gamer made the fight easier.
Skill issue😊
i don’t think it needs anymore bug fixes or nerfs(except if they were fixed and aren’t for some reason). i struggled to get nah id win but it seems like a cake walk with these fixes. rare development W’s.
this is the exact fix it needed absolutely marvelous
The only thing I like is potatolord not slap trading and the track gloves having a hitbox bigger than an atom
Every : guide bossfight it easy !
Me die on 2 phase
I’d love it if they made a way to get back up at the sbeves but it’s super hard or overall just make it a liiiitttle easier
Nah I’d win was technically nerfed but not by making it easier (I’m excluding the tentacle spam being removed and I frames because 90% of the changes were bug fixes not nerfs like the tentacles and I frames) it was made easier by removing the bugs that made nah I’d win a lot harder
1:34 yep they NERFED the tentacles
I think that easy now
I new subscribe :D
At 1:22 the trick for the tracks helped me a ton I nearly got it 1st try! Edit: I DID ITTT!!!!!?!!?
Lucky, you don't know the agony others have been through
"Lets go I'm about to beat Phase 2!"
"The incoming Track coming towards me that i did not see due to visual effects:
I solo’d phase 3 when playing with my friends because they died during cutscene. The only problem I had when playing full solo was phase 2 tentacles
i dont think NIW should be a cakewalk, but these balance changes are fair
@Nancleox The thing that should be nerfed is the slap trade when u slap guide he instantly slaps u back which makes it very difficult for Nah I'd win badge.
Yeah, they should make it the exact way as it is in slap royale, I mean slap trading is impossible in slap royale because you basically get immunity to your opponents slap if you slap them first
@@Storyshift422 Exactly
Wow that's great buy nerf ?!
The fix and balance are good and fine but guide no longer teleports behind you isn't making it hard anymore... now it's easier :(
U Need do balance a Lil bit track on phase 2 cuz it spawn very often after falling rock
I got it today on mobile. I really wanted potato lord to have knock back and it did. I hated when Guide kept teleporting next to me. Thank god they fixed it. I don’t think they should nerf anything since avatar is overpowered
Skill issue kiddo
2:00 the reason u got combo is cus you don’t have I frames when you are up but when you are ragdolled you can’t get hit witch even doing that doesn’t fix the problem at all it just makes it a little less likely
It makes no sense that on phase 3 he takes a whole life if you slapped it should just knockback
all that needs to be fixed now is the golem getting stuck in the tround
Nah that would make it too easy, literally too easy and you think spawn camping golems is that fair to begin with?
just wait a few seconds for the golem to get unstuck in the ground smh
@@Storyshift422very fair
So is it nerfed? U can do solo whi extra heart and regen?
Rudy there’s a glitch in the guide bossfight during phase 3 when you almost go into the cutscence guide disappears can you tell tencell to fix it?
The idea is what if instead of a guide there is a tencell
its supposed to be guide because his death was faked and everyone kind of bullied him
Yeah, the bossfight would make no sense if he was replaced
Well, there, replace the attack with the appearance effects
@@theguybehindTHEWAREHOUSE I met him when he was still alive and he was not helpfull ngl
NOOOOOOOOOO I LOVED THE TENTICAL SPAM 😭 It was so ridiculously stupid and insane that It made getting nah I'd win quite the experience 😂