How Applications Are Read: Yale vs. Columbia Law Schools
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- In this video, former Yale Law School Director of Enrollment and Columbia Law School Associate Director of Admissions Nick Everdell (now Senior Consultant with Spivey Consulting Group) discusses the timeline and process of how applications are read at Yale and Columbia.
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How are applications read at schools like UPenn and Harvard?
From your description, it seems that at Columbia at least the admissions process follows a fairly straightforward process that results in an offer or denial of admission once an application is read by two faculty members and approved by the Dean of Admissions. If this is the case at many non-Yale schools, why does it take the admissions office so long to communicate a decision to applicants? What causes that lag time?
Good question! I think what often gets forgotten is the volume of applications, and just how busy the admissions officers are. (and note- at Columbia, faculty don't read files, admissions officers do). When I was at Columbia, I was expected to read around 2000 applications between December and April every year. In addition I had other responsibilities: planning admitted student programs, writing reports, emails, meeting with applicants and admits, organizing current student involvement; the list goes on. Because of all this, it can take weeks, or even months, for a file to go from being complete to being read by the first reader, and then it usually gets put at the back of the line for the second reader, so another a few weeks or even months pass. And perhaps that has to happen a third time if there is a third reader. Strategy also plays a role. Sometimes, when a decision is uncertain, we would just sit on an app until we had a clearer picture of the applicant pool (or just because we could not make a decision). Sometimes that happened if we were confident an applicant is going to another school. We would sit on the app in the hopes they would be admitted there and withdraw from us before we had to make a decision. Finally, for efficiency, schools tend to send out decisions in batches. As such, if a decision is rendered on an applicant immediately after a batch of those decisions went out, it may be several weeks before another batch goes out, and that applicant receives a decision. I hope this answered your question! -Nick
Very helpful. Thank you!
At Columbia, how much weight did softs play into your decision? I understand that most law schools claim they read files holistically, but if you had to quantify the softs, are we talking about something in the 10% range, or are softs more of a tie breaker.
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Could you provide some average stats for each scoring bracket at Yale? (i.e. 6-7, 8-10, 11-12) What about average stats for admission at Columbia?
i doubt yale has disclosed any of the stats for each bracket, and if they did it would most likely look pretty similar amongst them as everyone who has made it to the top 25% is going to be competitive. You can find the average stats for admission for Yale and Colombia with a simple google search though :)
When applying for law school, should I contact the dean of admissions before hand and let them know my interest?
Very helpful!
How about some non T14 schools like Notre Dame? Do they care about religious affiliation? If I went to a Jesuit undergrad (and did well, 3.83GPA) would it be a benefitting factor?
The audio is really bad.
Thank you for publishing videos regarding the law school application process. I am looking forward to being accepted to Stanford, Harvard, or Yale in the near future.
I have a question
So I transferred from my community college with a low GPA of 2.7
I have a cumulative GPA at my current undergrad university of 3.9 (expected to reach a 4.0 by the time I graduate)
So my overall Gpa is 3.2 currently
I was not motivated at my community college but I have gotten all A's at my current institution.
It's my dream to go to Columbia law school, so do you think they will look at my overall GPA or the Cumulative GPA I have from my current school? Or do you think if they look at both, they'll look at the fact that I really increased my performance when I transferred to a university? I worked insanely hard to get to where I am with my academics but I am really worried that columbia Law school won't notice my performance boost at my current institution.
Congrats I'm in a similar situation I apply to Transfer from community college to Under University. My goal is to get a 4.0 when I transfer. I hope it goes well with you.
I know they look at your overall GPA. They do have your transcripts and will see how you did where, but that 3.2 is the GPA you’ll be applying with. Frankly I would have to say your chances of getting in are very low. Columbia gets so many top applicants and one thing about law school is where you went to undergrad plays a role. A 3.5 from Harvard compared to a 3.5 from your typical state school aren’t the same. If you went to a prestigious undergrad institution it helps your chances a lot. Your essay will have to be absolutely stellar in explaining your growth and maturity, but honestly you really shot yourself in the foot with not caring at cc.
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@aaron you're just a dick lmao. She's still got a shot, ain't nothing wrong with cc.
Try your best to get above Columbia’s 75th percentile on your LSAT, write an addendum explaining why your gpa at community college was low (maybe you worked a lot, family issues, mental health etc.) but that you’re now doing a lottt better at your transfer school. Make sure the rest of your app is flawless- your resume, personal statement should all be top tier work. Then shoot your shot!! Praying for you girl 🥰
Sorry, I've put the volume on full and still it's hard to hear what you're saying, it looks like you have lavalier mic on but the audio quality absolutely blows man.
audio could use some work, otherwise solid video. subtitles are necessary
Auto admits at Yale...who would've thought haha -sarcasm font
How apps are read: have you been oppressed? If yes, have you graduated any school? Else have you heard of a pen? Congratulations!!!!!!!! You're accepted.
Damn you cracked the code
Both indoctrination centers require that an applicants right leg be sufficiently longer than their left to ensure a student's consistant left leaning bias in all aspects of their pathetic existance.