Disappointed? EPCOT World Celebration Transformation EXPLAINED
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Let me try to explain to you how EPCOT’s World Celebration Transformation let down a lot of Disney Parks fans. But all isn’t lost because there is some good things to discover if we dive deep on the design.
It's not the customers who need to manage their expectations, it's Disney who needs to meet the expectations they themselves set.
Wow, I think this is a really great way of putting it. It's when they give you concept art they should already have methodology of how to do it or something even bigger rather than providing something significantly smaller or different. Just like I try and do with my children the concept of managing expectations falls on the one providing not the one consuming. I don't promise my kids they will get a chocolate cake pop at starbucks because logistically there is no way I can be certain Starbucks hasnt sold out of them, I simply say "well if they have it that can be our top option."
Exactly!! Us diehard Disney fans who spend thousands upon thousands of dollars a year visiting the parks expect Disney to invest some of that profit and improve the parks. What we have here is catering to people who will visit once or twice in their lifetime. It's boring and not at all what we were told was going in or even close to what our expectations of a Disney park update should be. I loved the old EPCOT and they could have updated that without drastically dulling the entire area. I have not seen the new area in person yet as our last trip was August 2023 before the walls came down but we are heading down in 3 weeks so maybe I should hold my judgement until then, but all of the videos i've seen don't impress me.
The lack of a major water feature is unfathomable. Especially when fountain of nations was an incredible, integral part of the park
I also looked forward to that central pavillion
Yeah the Fountain of Nations is before my EPCOT time but I agree some water would go a long way in this location. Which is another reason why I think it’s just a sophisticated patch.
No, we don't want water in that area. I went after the rain on Saturday and there were pools of standing water on the grass carpet and concrete.
@@vivica8207do you not understand what a fountain is
I hate that you waited this long to visit Epcot. You would have been blown away in the 80s and 90s. It really was the future.
He’s talking the 1890s
The Epcot of the 80s and 90s was amazing. It had hands on learning pieces, was symmetrical, and the spaces had purpose. The asymmetry and vast space of nothing in underwhelming.
I still want my fountain of Nations
It also sucks its not called "Future World" anymore. That was such a cool name.
I’m sticking with it, join me 😂❤️
A lot of money spent and no increase in park capacity. Hopefully the pledged $17 Billion will fix the attractions shortage. All Disney minor parks need twice as many attractions. I used to think of Epcot as equivalent to the Magic Kingdom, the castle parks. It is now a shadow of its former glory. Communicore Hall should be a queue line to the next E-Ticket. It’s a complete waste of resources. Disney parks have a lot of buildings that are placeholders for attractions that never arrived.
I think regardless how amazing Disney made this area, taking 5 years to do it makes it a stinker.
Context is king. The last 5 years have not been a typical 5 years.
you killed me with the birth comments 😅😂
It just seemed like such a childish critique so many people were jumping on. Who cares it’s beautiful either way.
@@HeyBrickeytoo bad they got rid of the Morocco penis. They would have played off of each other so well 😂😆
It's ugly on the bottom
@@HeyBrickey 100% thought you were about to say "This was Walt's big vagina."
tldr: "This doesn't actually suck because everything you see can be replaced in 10 years."
You missed the point my man. This video was about explaining why we got what we got and judging it as as a patch from one designer to another. But I guess you just want an unintelligent bashing of things and not someone exploring how this became the creative solution.
@@HeyBrickey I dont have to pay 100$ a day to walk through a buisiness parklet or a college campus. The problem is they did not plus it, they made it lamer and more "modern" Disney.
The large Fountain of Nations is the least the Disney Co could have salvaged. However, the area is fine if business garden parks in Irvine, Ca or office lobbies in Silicon Valley are your thing. Also, if almost every other facet of today's Disney Co weren't a "WTF!?," the revamped center of Epcot's (former) Future World would be passable.
It's as bland as a modern McDonald's
Disappointment is an understatement, Brickey. I think a lot of the disappointment is coming from a place of, yet again, being promised something extraordinary and then under delivering - this coming from a company that was built on a reputation of constantly exceeding expectations.
Hey Bricky … never been to Disney World, but your honest opinion from a design point and history view is a good and refreshing point of view
They really just need to change the name of EPCOT, there is nothing EPCOT about it anymore.
I love your thoughts regarding the possibility that this area could be considered “temporary” and was designed in a way that would be easy to update more dramatically in the future. Makes a lot of sense!
Thanks ❤️
I don’t know Brickey. As they say: Nothing’s more permanent than a permanent solution! I appreciate your comments but even if it’s just in UA-cam video, check out the enormous and I thought wonderous Fountain of Nations. We didn’t just lose a field and an artist’s rendering of a festival center.
I get that from a design point of view, I’m a design student myself . And haven’t been there yet but I believe it’s Beautiful and peaceful, and that’s terrific (although personally it makes me feel like I need my briefcase and resume to prepare for the interview I’m headed to in the business park setting!!). 😄 But I sympathize with the average guest who’s just spent over two hundred dollars a ticket. They don’t want to see a tasteful place holder. It looks like they were designing a senior center. Not to mention how hot 🥵 it’s gonna be even in the shade!
It’s nice to watch a true fan discuss the park design, it’s so crucial! Although on this one I think you went a little easy handed. Which is fine! I see your point. I just want you to know where so many people saying they hate it comes from. Maybe not the whole remodel, but I would say for the money spent it was outright failure. The designers are excellent. I think it might have been management at the time!
I openly admitted it wasn’t good and then explained why we got this instead of something better. I’m not sure why everyone is acting like I went too soft in my criticism. I openly admitted it wasn’t good and stated it would be easy to say it sucked and just moved on.
I don’t think people are understanding the critique that this video is more about why got this versus what we got.
@@HeyBrickey Hey Brickey! I sure hope my post didn’t offend you. I think you do a great job and enjoy your content. I was just trying to explain people’s (my) frustration with the remodel. You do a great job. Thanks for all your hard work and careful analyses!
The business interview thing was always kind of the vibe of EPCOT to be fair. As a kid in the 90's I actually had stomach pains going there because I thought there would be tests or something at the end of the day. lol
You’re being kind and generous. It’s no surprise that the non-Imagineering lady in charge of Imagineering, quit days before this was pronounced “complete”. The ability to start over AGAIN is faint praise indeed.
I wish we had gotten to find what John DeCuir and Hench were after in the sunken core of this future town shaped like a huge splash crown…with real urban planning surrounding. Fun fact, John Hench wanted the orb of Spaceship Earth to be the center point of the EPCOT project, but sponsors said “no, everyone has to walk past our attraction coming and and going out”.
Love your take on ‘vulva-planter’. Obviously a new fountain is needed immediately…if only to further the uhm, circle of life, thematically.
I don't think what they've done is *bad.* The center is nice, and I think they did a good job with it. The exterior of Communicore Hall is very pretty (I've not seen the inside in person). My beef is that it took so long and cost so much, and they didn't really upgrade anything. Yeah it's nice but it's not significantly nicer than what was there. They could have done so much more with the time and money they had. I hope you're right that it's all just a place holder for something better.
The center is empty and too big to be that too bare.
Budget cut destroyed the vision
It's easy to say it sucks.
Because
IT SUCKS!
The why it sucks?
Bob Iger's overspending for FOX and other IT'S
Disney is broke across the company except the parks and cruise divisions and the cuts at Epcot, ironically are being spent right now at Universal.
Getting rid of fountain of nations will go down in history as the biggest mistake epcot made. Including future world.
90's Epcot was a 2-day park.
that is so, so true.
but, to be fair, during food & wine, it's a multi-day park, because you can't eat and drink everything in one day.
I’m sure I’m biased because I live on the East Coast, but I think your WDW videos are unmatched. Your second argument tying the park to Walt’s urban dream is pure genius. Thank you once again!
The new Epcot area is nice. I wish we got the original 2019 plans. I wish they would fix Figment & fix the Wonders of life pavilion. I’d like to see new countries and the return of Horizons. Great work.
Thanks Mike. Mondays. Video is all about Figment.
I mea. Tuesday.
I don't need new countries, but Imagination needs a reboot and get rid of Mission Space.
@@lilliandonaldson8121 New countries! India, Spain, Australia, Brazil.
The old future world was a bit monotonous, but to replace it all with just a different kind of monotony and trees and sculptures rather than adding to what was already there and filling it in was a mistake. Thats really ultimately where i think they went wrong. Feels like a lateral move at best when the capital could have been used to build upon.
I also think it would be cool to mimic world showcase a bit in future world by showcasing different imaginary futures. Little mini lands like a green city, or a cyberpunk future. And if theyre too expensive to build at scale, make cool diaramas/sculptures for people to walk past
I think part of what he goes over in the video is that it is intended to be a bit of a lateral move because Covid caused budget cuts and uncertainty. I would say it is not quite lateral because it added a LOT of extra green space and so much extra shaded seating. It is so easy now to find a place to sit to slow down or wait for members of your party now. It is not extravagant but functional.
I suspect Disney will be investing a lot around this space over the next decade: Journey into Imagination, something where Wonders of Life is, finally redoing Spaceship Earth and its exit building, and a revamping of the Seas - and maybe Mission Space as well. I think the last thing they do after that time is come back to this central area and work on a new vision that they are pleased with. This does feel like it is a temporary solution that solves a lot of problems but it not the finished product.
@@MrMac1138 very valid
@FlyRick78 one thing i havent really heard anyone mention is the similarities between epcot and epic universe. With celestial park, they said they wanted to "put the park back in theme park." It i has so many of the same elements as fiture world now
@davidnevolo4402 as no Celestrial Park will infact become the World Celebration that Epcot was supposed to been. Brickey seems right Epcot's hub there like a Park looks temporary idk.
@@davidnevolo4402Celestrial Park is going to be sophisticated not cheap like this my guess.
Well?...what they built is incredibly un-inspiring. It looks like a small town high school lunchroom. It literally could NOT be more bland if they tried. It took 6+ years for THIS? Well...on the positive side, at least its better than staring at a dirt hole for 6+ years. (But not tio much better)
The Epcot theme park was not Walt's idea. Walt wanted to build an actual city, based on the latest urban planning concepts, in which people lived and worked. However, after Walt died, Disney executives didn't want to be in the business of running a city, so they decided to instead build a theme park based on the idea of a permanent world's fair, with pavillions for showcasing technologies and countries.
As for Communicore Hall, for better or for worse, Disney built that to be a multipurpose building that would serve as a venue for corporate events and to support various Epcot festivals.
Thanks for the history lesson dad.
I clearly started that they took Walt’s very ambitious ideas for making a small city and converted those ideas into something more realistic.
@@HeyBrickey Fair enough. Love your content, son!
@@Primogen16 😂😂😂
If this was the response to prepare for the arrival of Epic Universe they beyond missed the mark. This whole build out wreaks of Chapeck. As usual the concepts were there, but the execution was lacking. We can only hope this travesty gets some love. Thanks as always Brickey for keeping it real.
Celestial Park actually looks whimsical and beautiful. Like a park from a modern fairytale, and a place people would want to relax in. EPCOT just looks sterile and like an Apple Store. Honestly, EPCOT serves absolutely no purpose anymore. As the concept is outdated and a distorted stain on Florida.
I love your WDW vlogs. I know you prob don't get the same amount of clicks as your DL videos, but I really hope you keep them coming
Backwards usually works for Epcot. If Disney had placed Spaceship Earth by the lake, it would have felt as if they tried too hard to replicate the success of the castle parks.
Where the sourness lies is not in what they did, but what they didn’t do. They refused to update Spaceship Earth from its only unpleasant version to give it its long overdo overhaul. That would have tied the “new”Epcot to old EPCOT Center. Then, there is poor Imagination. A re-imagined Imagination would tie the original attraction into whatever they could imagine for the future, with Dreamfinder and without Idle of course. These two pavilions are elephants in the room at WDW. I would have accepted Wallcot for another 10 years had Disney started with these two former great attractions. They put the cart before the horse. This example of going backwards has backfired. It was a big misfire.
I appreciate this video, and your many different approaches to thinking about the new center of EPCOT. However, I like to dream big (as I know you do, too), and I feel that this signals a failure of Disney to dream big. You might be right that this is a temporary measure until something better comes along, but it leaves me with no hope of that.
What they did is moderately cool. I love all the extra seating. All the pretty greenery is great too. But that’s where it ends. The design is lazy and extremely underwhelming. The fountain of nations was literally the coolest fountain on property. And it’s gone for some cement with lights that don’t work. I know Covid had a big hand in all this but come on! Everything Disney does lately is lazy and half assed. And date I say cheap. In Disney standards anyways.
We’ll see what they do in the next 5 years when they can’t blame things on Covid. The clock started ticking last year in my mind and so far nothing has been 5 stars.
Brickey, enjoy the channel but your being waaaay too nice and optimistic about the new EPCOT Hub. As a WDW AP and an 80's baby that grew up with the original EPCOT, this place is a disaster now. Cominicore Hall will be here for the long run, especially with how current Disney builds things. No way it's a place holder for a few years.
Had Disney built this in say 12-18 months cool it is what it is. But the timeline it took to build this makes it a complete joke. I don't even see how this is going to change even during a festival. It is flat out boring, at night with the lights it looks a little better, but not much. After seeing how jaw dropping EPIC Universe is going to be just down the road, it's a shame Disney can't keep up. My expectations for D23 are extremely low.
As a '70's WDW CM and being at EPCOT on their day #2 . I am 100% disappointed with this new concept
I get that. You were there in its glory
Was it really impressive in the 70's?
I feel like regime change is a possible explanation for the lackluster result. New leadership hadn't bought in to what old leadership promised, so they dialed it back to meet the commitment, but nothing more.
What this is for me is the foyer at Riviera. For a four star hotel/DVC resort the foyer is underwhelming. When imagineering is allowed to create you get Animal Kingdom Lodge or Wilderness Lodge; a wow factor. I don't get that as I walk into World Celebration. The original dream was "Wow" but then the budget for "Chapeked". Unfortunate.......
What an unrelieved eyesore. As if taking out the water feature in front of universe of energy wasn’t enough, now they have removed the much needed active water fountain in center court and replaced it with a static desert of concrete and spare greenery. Yikes! In Florida, yet! Talk about a wrong design move. Also, the statue of Walt is humiliating. A very bad remodel indeed.
Let's see what took the same amount of time building EPCOT originally. Oh...oh...well that's, uhm cute.
Brickey, If your looking for Walts idea's on urban planning you will find them in new cities around the world. Dubai is just one example. The new open park like spaces in and around Singapore have more wow factor both day and night. Than what we have here. I wonder why Disney did'nt send anyone to take a look? Communicore Hall, on the inside just looks like a campus cafeteria. Disney used to win Design awards once upon a time but not this time. All a bit sad really. More so when you think of all the years it took to build. Cheers, Chris Perry.
Also, I would love to have Imagination Pavillion brought back to its former glory. So sad this pathetic, downtrodden pavilion still exists 😢
That’s the topic for Tuesday.
I've had the same thought about Future World and Communicore; it's all pretty much a blank canvas still with lots of potential. They just had to get the construction walls down.
Brickey, you crack me up "fun fact, I came from a vagina" But all seriousness, I havent seen the space in person, but I appreciate the seating areas and shade and potential flex space. Anyome else tired of eating festival food on top of a garbage can?
😂 Glad you got a laugh and yes the garbage can dinning plan is indeed getting old.
Too bad you missed peak EPCOT. 1988 to 1993 was the best time since it still had 99% of opening day EPCOT and the phase 2 elements. However, 1999 & 2000 were enhanced by the millennium celebration and a great time to be there. The audacity of the original EPCOT attractions and park design was and still is unmatched in the US.
Great perspective on this as not a long term solution. You see it through a designer’s eye - very insightful.
They spent 5 years to move dirt and make a concrete hot plate. The 1980’s EPCOT offered so much in style, education, and future imaginations…… Disney movies loose money and soon their parks will follow. What the actual hell is going on with this company? Fix yourself and find the talent you need.
This was certainly a very interesting take on this whole area, especially the part about the vagina planter. Overall I do think the area is actually pretty good. All this area really needs to do to be good is the fountain of Nations and better themed communicor Hall other than that I don't think many people would have a problem.
I have 2 copies of the poster they released showing the multi story festival building.
What gets me is that this minimalistic effort to fix Epcot’s problems is still more effort than they have put in to solve Tomorrowland’s problems. I still think you are giving them too much of a pass here.
One day I’ll be there to visit Epcot-Manny Avocado
That background music seems really loud.
It is and it’s even louder when the park is empty without bodies to absorb it.
I question how well the maintenance will be on the Communicore building with those "windows"......the upkeep on Tron has been lax and those pristine white "canopys" get black mold that grows like wild fire....and in this Florida weather, those windows are going to get gross and moldy as well (unless they have been treated with something that will help prevent that). I know: I am not thinking like a designer...I'm thinking like the mom who has to clean up that stuff!
As a person who has no stakes, and has yet to visit Epcot, I have found the garden space beautiful, and a place i wouldn't mind visiting. With the knowledge that this is the park dedicated to the Garden Festival, having a space dedicated to being able to present more of such an offering seems like a total win, when that festival comes, and from the picnic areas I've seen, this is a fabulous little park.
I had no preconceived notions of this area... and while I do agree on a level it feels underwhelming, I don't think I would say I was disappointed. I wish more Disney Parks could save space like this for green spaces. When and if I eventually make it to the East Coast, I will enjoy this for what it is, and I hope more people will warm up to it.
Yeah same. I think it looks beautiful. Are they laundering money somewhere? Perhaps. But it still looks nice.
Hey Brickey, I hope you are right, and that it’s not accountaneers skimping.
Well they did skimp but this is all my guess on why and what that could possibly mean. Thanks for watching
Thanks Brickey. Another really great video. I actually went to Epcot a few times when it was brand new. I lived in Orlando at the time. The park is FAR better than in the beginning. We all enjoyed it, but it was nothing as it is now. Very cool take on the future.
You’re right. That parks in my neighborhood are just as nice. And they’re free. I think I might stay home
As a west coaster, I've visited Disneyland 100's and 100's of times but have only made the trip to Florida once. Of the 4 parks there EPCOT was the most impressive even with the walls up. If you consider Walt's original vision of what EPCOT was to be then what currently exists is merely the welcome center for what has not been built. With the company now building a large tract of luxury homes in the Palm Springs area who's to say that they won't end up building a true EPCOT sometime in the future.
There are some of Walt’s ideas extracted into EPCOT but I don’t even know if he could have pulled off that plan, it was crazy ambitious. EPCOT is the vibe park, I think that’s why I love. It’s just all the things I like.
Great video! Glad I found your channel!! 😉👌💙
Great stuff man. Well said. Your next series should be called "designing with constraints." 😅
"The California Adventure Story."
It looks like they built it out for Live Entertainment areas. Walt's EPCOT was meant to be ever changing as technology and lifestyles change. I still hope for a truly built out city like he wanted. Not in my lifetime I imagine.
I wouldn't even mind if everything they built is permanent and instead they focused on finally putting in the Rhine river cruise boat ride in Germany since the ride building already exists and also maybe the building the Mary poppins ride as well.
No doubt this park needs more attractions and it’s ridiculous that show buildings have been built for decades.
Hey Brickey! Nicely done! I really like your take on the new World Celebration area in EPCOT, especially the possibilities you shared for future transformations. Though I haven't seen it yet, I think I feel the same way about the park-like setting being a temporary "stepping stone" approach, and it really is a nicely done "park". I think while they were building Moana's Journey of Water, they could have run some pipes over to the "vagina" to make an entertaining fountain. But, as you say, that might have been more permanent than they want to go for now. I especially like your use of the Walt Disney statue at Dreamer's Point in this video. Very effective use there. I appreciate all of your videos and work.
First, this version of EPCOT WASN'T Walt's dream. He dreamt of a working city that was ever changing and brought in all of the latest tech and for the betterment of design.
If you take Disney Legend, Marty Skalar's word, they scraped that idea and made it a changing world's fair, but had two different ideas one of the future and another of the current world of nations. Then couldn't decide on which one. Then just pushed the two together and THAT became EPCOT. This current park is NONE of either dream or idea and now is becoming just another IP pushing place that WILL be stale very quickly. No more originality. After almost 6 years all they could come up with is planters and a very HOT place to spend more money on merch. Stop giving corporate disney excuses of the pandemic. Universal built great rides, started Epic and did more while corporate disney did NOTHING.
hey give this lame excuse for "improvement" and raised prices on top of it. So all you pixie dusters can PAY MORE and GET LESS!
There was only one time at Epcot where I said “this sucks” and it was right after journey into YOUR imagination.
Whenever I see people ask "when is the best time to visit EPCOT?" I always have to hold back saying the late 80's early 90's. To me personally it just feels like they have butchered this park over the last decade.
I'll echo another writer's comment. Disney has been over-promising and under-delivering for years. Anything mentioned at D23 should be viewed as "would be nice to have in a perfect magical world". Otherwise, I'll believe it when I see it. Now we've seen it.
The vagina reference was hilarious. Hard to believe the imagineers never noticed the similarity. Reminds me of the cover for the little mermaid DVD. They didn’t catch that and that was even more obvious.
Glad you got a laugh ❤️
I have that cover. Bought my copy before it was fixed. I wonder where it is.🤔
They spent 5 years to move dirt and make a concrete hot plate. The 1980’s EPCOT offered so much in style, education, and future imaginations…… Disney movies loose money and soon their parks will follow. What the actual hell is going on with this company? Fix yourself and find the talent you need. Universal built a whole new park during the pandemic….. Disney planted trees and raised prices. Go to hell Disney.
Perhaps the old imaginers exceeded everyone's expectations (think Epcot for the first decade or two). Perhaps that's why we feel like the current version is so sterile and lacks inspiration. I don't know. The only thing I know for sure is...I'm not paying Disney prices for an experience I can get at a local mall.
There's too much new concrete, unused areas in the new section. The original design was great and the fountain should have been refurbished to current standards. That flower bed should be a new fountain to add movement and coolness, not another flower bed, yawwn.
I think the first mistake was putting Tron Light cycles in the Magic Kingdom. They should have created a "Tron Experience" in the future world area of Epcot. Imagine not just the light cycles, but an areal dog fight attraction similar the the climax of the second movie. Maybe figure out a way to include the "disc wars"? And why not an "End of the Line" club inside? This could have become the flagship attraction for the park had Disney invested the time and energy into it. The other thing missing is shade. Dotting the park with hanging tarps where guests could sit for a minute, maybe drink from a fountain, and catch their breaths would be helpful. This park needs rides and attractions.
Love this take on it!! I think it looks amazing. I went to Epcot in 2012 for the first time and I thought the whole future world area looked like an empty mall. Lots of concrete and walls. So to me this is an amazing upgrade.
I went a couple of weeks ago. It does suck. It’s boring, there is no dynamism, the music is bad. Old Future World while dated, had personality and was fun. And the music loop was goated.
Great perspective as always. Would be so fascinating to know what Communicore Hall actually cost versus what the original building was projected to cost. When something is truly received poorly, Disney does revise their plans, think, superstar limo, the first revamp of journey into imagination, or even the Star Wars hotel. Someone should start a pool to see how long there is a major revision to the section of the park, a new fountain? A new festival center? Two years? Five years? 10 years?
They should do an audioanimatronic show where Walt Disney returns to see what they've done to his "city of the future." Make it where he Three Stooges slaps Bob Iger and Bob Paycheck.
Budget cuts and the shut down wrecked the 2019 concept art…I agree with you that the Festival Pavilion getting the axe was sad…That would have been such an awesome piece of architecture and even had a landscaped roof.
There's so much coping in this video
You missed the point by a country mile cool guy.
Looks like thousands of “luxury” apartment buildings in college towns across the country. I really do not care for this aesthetic.
Are we not gonna talk about “thematic birthing canal” lol
While a beautiful landscaped park is desirable in a residential or office setting, spending $100+ per entry to visit a park is less than ideal. Also spending five years and millions of dollars to create a temporary space does not make sense when the business goal is to create attractions that people want to pay to experience.
I think it looks SO beautiful! I could watch your B Roll all day. We can look at any space and someone can show us how it could be better, but for me the beauty of the greenery, the water and building designs are just amazing together. I prefer to appreciate what we got instead of what we didn’t. EPCOT is a gem .#1313
If that were my home park id been in there all time. Hello it’s a vibe spot!!!
No doubt it is not as good as originally promised, but I do think it's much better than what was there before. Maybe not the fountain. That was a mini show a lot of people enjoyed. The rest is just nostalgia. How it was right up to construction started was not good. What is there now isn't leaps better, but it is better.
Just dont get how they decided to tear down half of communicore building, just to rebuild a smaller version? Do not like the idea that all of Disneys new stuff seems to be designed to be in your local mall or hotel/hospital,
18:30 things got a little weird there Brickey! 😜
Hey Walt (lol)! And, Hey Brickey - wondering about the music playing @ Epcot, and if you're risking a copyright strike? As a novice UA-camr, I'm preparing to release some long-lost 90's footage of mine from the monorail, and curious if the announcements/voiceover will result in a copyright strike ... thoughts? Appreciate you as always - keep up the great work!
SHAME ON YOU, Disney! You upset Brickey! (and the rest of us)
I completely agree. I think we got the “camp Mickey and Minnie” version of EPCOT. This is a place holder for 5-10 years until they have the time to develop a permanent solution and create the budget for it. The project that was actually green lit was more than a decade in the making. They had the worlds worst timing for construction that meant the had to vault and figure out FAST what to do with what they just destroyed…. This is a bandaid. We will get the real announcements for what’s to come in the next few years.
I completely agree. I think we got the “camp Mickey and Minnie” version of EPCOT. This is a place holder for 5-10 years until they have the time to develop a permanent solution and create the budget for it. The project that was actually green lit was more than a decade in the making. They had the worlds worst timing for construction that meant the had to vault and figure out FAST what to do with what they just destroyed…. This is a bandaid. We will get the real announcements for what’s to come in the next few years.
Brickey, I love your enthusiasm, but it is a disappointment what they did to that park.
In my opinion, Epcot should always be evolving because of the concept of the park. Time is still moving and things are still evolving. So I think, the park should not ever be “finished”.
The design elements look decent and a lot of effort was put in. I visited a month or so before you did. I think people are already sad about certain rides being replaced by movie IPs betraying the edutainment theme of the park. Some take the new redesign as another slap in the face. I do miss many of the elements of the 90s and 00s. I'm still on the fence, but i'll have fun wherever I am.
There's no Imagination to the Imagineering of EPCOT. 2:23 IT was all Cost ✂️ cutting at the base. 3:09
There was imagineering, then the bosses came in and neutered it. That's what happens in design and delivery, but EPCOT just got mangled to death with cut backs. As someone who works in a "creative" field that has to deal with non-creatives making changes/cuts/differ directioning...its soul crushing. I can't imagine what the actual imagineers must feel now hearing everyone shit on their work, not being able to point out the journey of their ideas (I want to see what was bluesky'd BEFORE the concept art) and the forks that they got stuck with.
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Brickey, lately you have been speaking my language. I went to high school in Florida and lived there into my early adulthood when I relocated to SoCal. And while I prefer DLR above WDW, I still have fond memories of Epcot and all that it was and still is. I really appreciate your comment about the planter being designed to mimic the birth of all because not a single one of us would be here if we were not birthed and instead of being offended or worried about how it’s perceived by our children, it is a teaching moment and opportunity for education and reflection. Art is subjective and also intended to provoke emotions. Whether people like this design or not, it’s done its job in subjectivity and inciting an emotional response.
between the hotels, DVC and Golden Acres WDW is a city people live in
In a digital sea of face-value, reactionary reviews this was very refreshing to watch.
I sincerely appreciate that ❤️
I needed this video!! 😂😂 I was just there today and was not impressed. I knew you would have a good explanation and honest review of this area. So glad you were here this week to put my mind at ease. 😂😂
Glad you enjoyed the honest but thoughtful critique
The construction went on for so long that I forgot what it looked like before the walls went up.
I haven't been with the Communicore update - but I LOVE the new World Celebration area with the plaza, the Walt statue, and even the Moana walk-through. At night especially, that plaza is simply magical.
The park/garden looks like one of the newer meta campus parks after they started having budget cuts in 2020. If one of their original roof top or classic campus parklets were replaced with that; you would have upset employees.
The food offerings I have seen in that area, meta has better food too, even after they gutted the funding.
I hope you are right on future expansion
I hate what Epcot has become because while I understand that they couldn’t create what Walt dreamed of, it at least used to have the essence of Walt’s dream. Epcot should be a park that educates & inspires.
We were just in Disney last week. On the way there my 8 year old son only asked about 3 rides Slinky Dog, 7 Dwarves, Living with the Land. Disney has the ability to mix education with fun experiences and when it comes to Epcot I feel like they have a responsibility not only to us but to Walt’s legacy to provide that.
They need a 5th gate so that Epcot can be Epcot again.
Love this comment, totally agree. But I love more is your sons top 3