In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
That patriots game should've been a win as well, but something felt super fishy about that game. Sean didn't challenge any of the goaline touchdowns, the play calling looked super off, and what do you know, Russ gets benched the next game when they could've been wild card contenders.
Russ threw 26TDs and only 8INTs with a coach that tried to humiliate him last year. I think he’ll do quite well this year. Also some of the stuff the media has said about him the last few years has felt personal and not even to do with his game.
@@joshparkerson8390 except he beat the chiefs, bills, Vikings, Green Bay, and browns one after another. They were all great playoff teams and one won the superbowl.
@@patriciabrewer2143 The defense did, they were averaging 3 turnovers a game during that 5-1 period. If you think Josh Allen having 3 INTs, a fumble and 33% on third down is Russ then sure. If Mahomes throwing a pick 6 and fumbling while being sick then sure. I don't watch football, i guess Russ plays safety.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
@@EgyKics1t Fields has the physical and now he's got a coach and an example. Fields is basically doing what his little league baseball coach taught. It worked ok. But now he's got a football coach. He might make the Hall of Fame.
@@mandelharvey3429lmao u r reaching he’s in his fourth year in the nfl and doesn’t know how to play quarterback. Had one of the best college offensive minds at Ohio state. On top of that his physicals aren’t going to keep up forever by the time he finally learns how to play the position he’s not going to be as fast or physically gifted.
@@JasonFlemingMusic Ohio State has made one good NFL QB ever. All of the talent in the world from a succession of physical specimens. No I don't count any coach since little league.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
facts... OC-Smith may not be a good headCoach but he is a very decent OC... he will now be able to open up the playbook even more, something he was not able to do with Fields... if you watch when Fields was in, it was like plays were ran to "protect" him, offensive scheme looked a bit robotic when Fields was in
Wilson was picked as QB1 in the pre-season. The only reason Fields started was because Wilson was injured. As soon as Wilson was fit, coach gave the position of QB1 back to him. Fields, I hope (cause I really like this dude), will learn under Wilson and become a better quarterback of the future. Keyshawn uses a lot of words to say next to nothing. I feel sorry for Joy that she is stuck with these two. The Jets need to draft a new quarterback.
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it was honestly just a trend to hate on russ. Only the real ones still defended him especially with what he did for 10 seasons in seattle. I know a BUNCH of qbs who haven't lasted as long as Russ, plus Russ was a 3rd round pick.
You guys are forgetting, Russ beat Kansas City last year with Denver. He is a playoff winning quarterback. When they go to the playoffs they are going in with a guy who knows how to win in playoffs games
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
@@perryellis1423 I’m a Hawks fan through and through… and I’m over the whole Denver thing now, so I’d love to see Russ and Mike Tomlinson get another ring
Can somebody please explain this to me, they said Russell Wilson had a bad season in 2023. The man had a B+ quarterback rating, when did that become bad? I don’t care what you’re doing, the last I checked a B+ is good in anything or am I missing something?
I get tired of people talking about the steelers playing other teams in the north. Go back and look over the past twenty five years of history. We have owned every team in that division, year in and year out , including the ravens. We hold a dominating lead on all 3 of those teams.
Man, I thought I was trippin. After the Lions destroys the Cowboys and the Vikings, the undefeated team, just played “yesterday” as well. One of the “biggest” games of week 7 and we focus of popular franchise teams. The hate is real.
It’s a good problem to have, what if Russ gets hurt🤷🏽♂️ Fields gets to watch Russ how he goes about, he just has to stay prepared as if he’s starting, Russ did🤙🏽🏈
Russ stayed prepared because Russ was QB1. JF only started in the first place because Russ got injured. If Russ had started those games, the Steelers would be 7-0 right now. People act like JF got benched. He didn’t. He was always QB2. He just returned to his original spot. Russ’s 2023 stats were better than all three Steelers QBs’ stats combined! Theres a real probability that Russ would have led the 2023 Steelers to the SB, especially given the types of wins he racked up midseason, beating the Broncos’ toughest opponents. JF can’t spin it like Russ can, and if you go down and check all the mixes you want in a QB, JF wins maybe 5 out of about 25, and that’s barely. (1) Height: it hasn’t resulted in any great production for JF. He doesn’t even throw over the kiddie as well as Russ does. (2) Speed: His YPC are about 0.5 better than Russ’s, and Russ has a lower sack rate (9.1% vs. 10.9% in 2023) and much higher first-down% (47% vs. 37% in 2023). But let’s keep it 100, JF will juice Russ in the open field. The question is, how important is that in a balanced offense, especially when BOTH QBs can outrun first and second-level defenders? Russ was 8th in QB rush yards last season (2023) on almost exclusively non-designed runs, right behind #7 Mahomes. That means Russ was on his own and picking up yards. Btw, he only played in 15 games, and two of the QBs who finished ahead of him weren’t even full-time starters (e.g., Joshua Dobbs). Russ was ostensibly a borderline top-5 rusher last year. (3) Overall Size: Yet Russ has been the tougher, more durable player, missing just 7 of 195 games in his career until this year, and two of those were coach’s decision. In 3.3 seasons, JF has missed more games than Russ has. Again, what is the result of that overall size? (4) Likability: Russ is a socially awkward guy, but he isn’t nearly as disliked as the media will have people believe. Need receipts? Even after his Denver experience, players from multiple teams were RECRUITING Russ! That tells you how revered and respected he is for his ability and leadership. Even most of his Broncos and Seahawks teammates liked him, and despite their rocky relationship, Richard Sherman still defends Russ on occasion. JF is obviously beloved, and people can see why: he oozes charisma and humility. But he DID throw his Chicago coaches under the bus during an interview, which I believe led to his getting traded away. Still, he’s a very likable guy and a solid leader. (5) Youth: This one is tricky. I made a post about why this wasn’t the advantage people think it is, but I’ll give you the abridged version here. Only four QBs age 25 or younger have won SBs in the past 24 years: Brady: 23 Rothlisberger: 23 Russ: 25 Mahomes: 24 *Note that Russ won his SB in his TRUE second year while Mahomes won his in his third year. Russ played pro baseball before entering the NFL draft. Only 8 QBs have won SBs before age 30 over the past 24 years: Brady Rothlisberger Dilfer (29) Rodgers (28) Flacco (27) Russ Foles (27) Mahomes The four QBs listed among that list of 8 who did not win one at age 25 or younger were 27 or older when they did win, and only Russ, Foles and Mahomes were below the age-30 barrier while winning SBs over the last decade. If you include Flacco’s win from 2012, that still only gives us four. Two of those guys are HoF QBs, and Flacco is borderline. Only Foles is not a HoF QB and wasn’t when he won. These trends do not bode well for JF in the near future for one simple reason: With the exception of Dilfer and Foles, the other 6 QBs were showed HoF potential very early in their careers. Given these FACTS, what reason is there to believe that a one-dimensional QB like JF has the ability to replicate those other performances over the next 3-5 years, let alone this year? People get hyped up on young QBs, but BETTER QBs have all failed to win SBs recently, sometimes losing to so-called “old QBs.” Not counting Russ’s loss! Mahomes lost to Brady Goff lost to Brady Burrow lost to Stafford Cam post to P. Manning Hurts lost but lost to sub-30 Mahomes Foles lost to Brady Young guys just don’t win SBs, if they even get to SBs. Luck, Winston, Prescott, Watson, and other QBs never got to SBs before age 30, and Jackson, Allen, and Tua still haven’t. Love sat the bench behind Rodgers, and Darnold and Geno were journeymen. You get my point. Young stud doesn’t equate to SB.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
As a steeler fan. Im glad we have both Russ and Fields. I look at Fields as the long term QB of the future of my Steelers. They have to undo the 3 years of bad coaching from the multiple regimes in Chicago. Russ can teach Fields and Fields will be better for it in the long run. I still would want the Steelers to pay Tom Brady to work with Fields behind the scenes as well. I also hope the Steelers go get Max Crosby and pair him with TJ Watt.
Props to Joy and Shady for not letting the Payton brainwash them too. Been hearing a lot of stammering and double speak from tons of these jokers today otherwise though.
Great show all were professional and respectful of others time to speak🎉Joy very analytical with this game love her point of view 🎉didn't see any pervs 😅which is very mature as sports fans 🎉we're here for the perspectives
I like this take that I been hearing today from the media - now they saying well we don't see what the coaches see behind the scenes . With that said then stop questioning a HOF coach !!!!
This why I stopped watching shows like this. It's becoming more about having your voice heard and simply having an opinion than actually making a factual, logical assessment. Thank goodness Mike Tomlin is the coach
These coaches need to accept what is working best. Andy Reid is so good because when running the ball is working he will run the ball, when passing the ball is working they will pass the ball. A lot of coaches this season are in love with throwing the ball.
The first question should have read Was Russell Wilson Vindicated with win?...the coachs should give you the answers to the test its up to the players to go & do there job & have fun thats what there paid to do...Mike Tomlin Quoted saying "I want volunteers not hostages & "The Standard is the Standard...So all hands on deck next man up who can get us to the promise land who can i trust?...Lets find out!!!PAUL PIERCE SPEAKIN THE TRUTH!
In my opinion this was the best thing to happen to the Steelers Justin fields starting 6 games and going 4-2 was perfect for them most people are looking at it from a fan view but when you looking at it from a team view Russ got to get the proper rest he needed while Justin did his thing now Russ is back and they have 10 games left if they can win at least 7 which they will they’ll be good watch out for them in the playoffs!
As a life long Jet fan and Native New Yorker I saw this coming 3 years ago. When AR first said he was interested in being traded and one of the teams was the Jets. I said to someone that he just was the wrong type of person to play in NYC.
The one thing that people are also missing is sitting Fields now if you see more in Russ, you're not hurting Fields confidence waiting for him to fail, and you can say, look you're doing great, but let's put the vet in there so you can continue to learn and grow.
Im a Steelers fan who hasn't missed a game since 1995. I always question Tomlins decisions. I'm one who believes when we win, the team overcame Tomlins coaching. Nice win but I don't think we will ever be a serious contender under Tomlin
Fact of the matter is, Jets have to take the ball out of Rodgers and hands to get the offense started. Get that going and then play action seems like the formula now.
Another thing ppl aren't speaking on is that the Steelers played a much cleaner game without penalties constantly taking back Big plays & TDs. The WRs also caught and held onto the ball instead of all those drops & whiffs.
Very smart of Mike Tomlin to insert Russell into the lineup. Tomilin puts Russ in during a forgiving stretch of the schedule. As well, Tomlin can showcase Russ to see what he can do witht he 2024 Steelers. This gives Pittsburgh a better idea to see what direction they want to go if they want to keep Russ or shop him. Tomlin has to play Russ for many reasons.
OC-Smith may not be a good headCoach but he is a very decent OC... he will now be able to open up the playbook even more, something he was not able to do with Fields... if you watch when Fields was in, it was like plays were ran to "protect" him, offensive scheme looked a bit robotic when Fields was in
That is irrelevant. No coach is going to throw his season, job, career, or legacy on the line to keep a 6th round pick from converting to a 4th, especially if he believes the player he got in exchange was worth it. JF was worth a #2 or #3 pick, so the Steelers are nut conserved either way that. It’s a pretty silly argument, TBH. Russ is just the better QB in just about every way possible. He doesn’t have JF’s size or open-field speed, but he has JF beaten in every other area, including some mobility stats that might surprise you.
@DeCurtaRican if you think that a coach with 2 Super Bowl rings who has never had a losing season, had his career on the line by deciding to bench a player for a week.. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm also not gonna argue that JF is currently any better or worse than Russ.. none of us knew how Russ was going to perform. I dont think this was a matter of skill or not. The one thing that we do know, which is the thing that I haven't heard one commentator speak on, is the fact that a pick is riding on whether JF gets 3 more starts or not. I think this is the best case scenario for everyone involved. Tomlin is a great leader with two options at the qb spot with ridiculous potential. If anyone is going to find the potential in either of these two players, it's this coach.
Nobody is missing that, it just isn't important. First dude said it perfectly. Also you gotta be smoking something if you think an owner cares more about a 4th round pick than winning
Hs takes are very basic, don't think he understands the nuances of football. Lowkey I like Stephen A and he definitely knows more about football than Paul but he's another example, he doesn't know the details of other sports like he does basketball.
This defense lookin like the LOB but better and Russ is lookin like a Seattle Russ so far. Idk how the future is gonna go but it’s off to a great start. Hats off to the greatest organization in football for making these adjustments to continue to keep up with the powerhouses in the NFL
Bottom Line. Russ is a way better QB than Fields. Fields was blessed to play those 6 games to show he can play but he's not gonna win u games against Baltimore or Bills. He threw one TD to a WR in 6 GAMES!!! He deserved to get benched
WRs made some circus catches and so did the TE. The throws weren't good. Give it more time and see how he does. They also played a horrible team that has lot of injuries on defense. Especially to the DBs. They were missing 4 starting DBs. Let's slow down little bit.
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When Russ went on a five game winning streak with Denver it was against the best teams in the league.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
Literally. People conveniently forgetting that
That’s because RUSSELL WILSON IS AN ELITE QUARTERBACK… He always has been. He was in a bad situation for a couple seasons and banged up.
That patriots game should've been a win as well, but something felt super fishy about that game. Sean didn't challenge any of the goaline touchdowns, the play calling looked super off, and what do you know, Russ gets benched the next game when they could've been wild card contenders.
@@kvang254 he wanted to lose to make my boi look bad
Russ threw 26TDs and only 8INTs with a coach that tried to humiliate him last year. I think he’ll do quite well this year. Also some of the stuff the media has said about him the last few years has felt personal and not even to do with his game.
Those were Dak yards/empty calories. Who cares when the game is lost.
@@joshparkerson8390 except he beat the chiefs, bills, Vikings, Green Bay, and browns one after another. They were all great playoff teams and one won the superbowl.
Don't argue with STOOPID @@patriciabrewer2143
@@patriciabrewer2143you can’t convince these haters.
@@patriciabrewer2143 The defense did, they were averaging 3 turnovers a game during that 5-1 period. If you think Josh Allen having 3 INTs, a fumble and 33% on third down is Russ then sure. If Mahomes throwing a pick 6 and fumbling while being sick then sure. I don't watch football, i guess Russ plays safety.
Tony Dungy was at practice two weeks ago, and said that with the backups, Russ was lighting it up against the 1's defense. That's what coaches see...
Press Taylor destroyed the jaguars
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
Dungy did say that.
Sure did
Russ will continue to prove haters wrong. Hasn't played in 11 months but still heated up like left over lasagna. He outplayed Aaron Rodgers by far
Russell in Denver was 26 TD 6 Int. 15 games I will take that
And he threw for over 3,000 yards and had a five Game winning streak.
I wish he came to da Raiders him or Fields cuz our QBs r terrible
Thats 20 more than kenny picket in 2 years
Yes they are...Chiefs Kingdom!!@@JJwestoakland1200
People who wanted Fields to start really don’t know football 😂 same people who wanted fields to stay in Chicago lol
First time Justin Fields has the opportunity to learn from a proficient veteran.
Russ is our QB1 going forward, Fields will replace him. We're set.
@@EgyKics1t Fields has the physical and now he's got a coach and an example. Fields is basically doing what his little league baseball coach taught. It worked ok. But now he's got a football coach. He might make the Hall of Fame.
@@mandelharvey3429lmao u r reaching he’s in his fourth year in the nfl and doesn’t know how to play quarterback. Had one of the best college offensive minds at Ohio state. On top of that his physicals aren’t going to keep up forever by the time he finally learns how to play the position he’s not going to be as fast or physically gifted.
@@JasonFlemingMusic Ohio State has made one good NFL QB ever. All of the talent in the world from a succession of physical specimens. No I don't count any coach since little league.
Russ a savvy and seasoned QB general, and thats need right now.
"I wouldn't have done it" well good thing you're not the coach Keyshawn 😂
Keyshawn gets exposed all the time he's the reason the ESPN show got cancelled
Facts 👌✨
Lol 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. They know what y'all don't and that's why they are the coach
Bro there winning like key is right what coach wants to mess something up when there winning...
Russell's only going to continue to get sharper as the rust wears off and he gets more familiar with the team/offense.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
facts... OC-Smith may not be a good headCoach but he is a very decent OC... he will now be able to open up the playbook even more, something he was not able to do with Fields... if you watch when Fields was in, it was like plays were ran to "protect" him, offensive scheme looked a bit robotic when Fields was in
Joy deserves so much better
How? She sucks
If I had millions, I'd go get her.
Joy is da Bomb❤❤
Foreal! How is Molly Q. With stephen a. And joy is relegated to this?!
Wilson was picked as QB1 in the pre-season. The only reason Fields started was because Wilson was injured. As soon as Wilson was fit, coach gave the position of QB1 back to him. Fields, I hope (cause I really like this dude), will learn under Wilson and become a better quarterback of the future.
Keyshawn uses a lot of words to say next to nothing. I feel sorry for Joy that she is stuck with these two.
The Jets need to draft a new quarterback.
The Jets ALWAYS need to draft a new quarterback. I'd feel bad for the fans, but...
Didn't see your comment, made basically the same argument. 😅
The jets deserve that backstabber
Wow Paul Pierce makes better points than Keshawn
I said the same thing
It’s because you’re listening as a fan and not as an actual player/ insider
Key is a dope. U think they would play a bad passer in fields during the 2nd h.of the season. No chance. Rw is way way better even at 60%
Keyshawn sounds dumb AF‼️🙄
Keyshawn is completely unwatchable‼️WTF‼️🙄💯💯
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I noticed everyone hating on Russel I looked at the entire NFL Analysis all of them hate on him I couldn’t believe it
I guess they are jealous of his wife 😂😂😂
This could be true
it was honestly just a trend to hate on russ. Only the real ones still defended him especially with what he did for 10 seasons in seattle. I know a BUNCH of qbs who haven't lasted as long as Russ, plus Russ was a 3rd round pick.
And he's done nothing wrong. It doesn't make sense. Maybe it's ring envy. Winners are hated on for no reason.
We can pickup on the anti Russ attitude. It’s all uphill for Russel.
You guys are forgetting, Russ beat Kansas City last year with Denver. He is a playoff winning quarterback. When they go to the playoffs they are going in with a guy who knows how to win in playoffs games
Beat Buffalo too
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning.
He won a Superbowl and should've won two if they would've handed the ball to Beast Mode.
@@gaddyifyMaybe. No one knows that answer..
Russ will continue to prove haters wrong. Hasn't played in 11 months but still heated up like left over lasagna. He outplayed Aaron Rodgers by far
Russ finally has another coach that believes in him and his skill set that will allow Russ to be Russ.
Man this is Seattle all over again. Physical RB. Great defense, but he never played with a guy like Pickens. This guys hands got glue on them lol.
I hope so, 🙏🏾
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
@@perryellis1423 I’m a Hawks fan through and through… and I’m over the whole Denver thing now, so I’d love to see Russ and Mike Tomlinson get another ring
Joy is amazing. Why is fox wasting joy’s talents with “bridge“ cohosts.
No she isn't. Her brother was.
Can somebody please explain this to me, they said Russell Wilson had a bad season in 2023. The man had a B+ quarterback rating, when did that become bad? I don’t care what you’re doing, the last I checked a B+ is good in anything or am I missing something?
Pittsburgh was 5-1 in the division last year with Kenny Pickett Relax
What was the end result?
I get tired of people talking about the steelers playing other teams in the north.
Go back and look over the past twenty five years of history.
We have owned every team in that division, year in and year out , including the ravens.
We hold a dominating lead on all 3 of those teams.
Man, I thought I was trippin.
After the Lions destroys the Cowboys and the Vikings, the undefeated team, just played “yesterday” as well. One of the “biggest” games of week 7 and we focus of popular franchise teams.
The hate is real.
But the problem is the media ...they want superbowls
@@micphyzics6945 Maybe if they make it to the game and win it. The media will satisfy your need for those teams to get thier props?
It’s a good problem to have, what if Russ gets hurt🤷🏽♂️ Fields gets to watch Russ how he goes about, he just has to stay prepared as if he’s starting, Russ did🤙🏽🏈
Russ stayed prepared because Russ was QB1. JF only started in the first place because Russ got injured. If Russ had started those games, the Steelers would be 7-0 right now.
People act like JF got benched. He didn’t. He was always QB2. He just returned to his original spot.
Russ’s 2023 stats were better than all three Steelers QBs’ stats combined! Theres a real probability that Russ would have led the 2023 Steelers to the SB, especially given the types of wins he racked up midseason, beating the Broncos’ toughest opponents.
JF can’t spin it like Russ can, and if you go down and check all the mixes you want in a QB, JF wins maybe 5 out of about 25, and that’s barely.
(1) Height: it hasn’t resulted in any great production for JF. He doesn’t even throw over the kiddie as well as Russ does.
(2) Speed: His YPC are about 0.5 better than Russ’s, and Russ has a lower sack rate (9.1% vs. 10.9% in 2023) and much higher first-down% (47% vs. 37% in 2023). But let’s keep it 100, JF will juice Russ in the open field. The question is, how important is that in a balanced offense, especially when BOTH QBs can outrun first and second-level defenders?
Russ was 8th in QB rush yards last season (2023) on almost exclusively non-designed runs, right behind #7 Mahomes. That means Russ was on his own and picking up yards. Btw, he only played in 15 games, and two of the QBs who finished ahead of him weren’t even full-time starters (e.g., Joshua Dobbs). Russ was ostensibly a borderline top-5 rusher last year.
(3) Overall Size: Yet Russ has been the tougher, more durable player, missing just 7 of 195 games in his career until this year, and two of those were coach’s decision.
In 3.3 seasons, JF has missed more games than Russ has. Again, what is the result of that overall size?
(4) Likability: Russ is a socially awkward guy, but he isn’t nearly as disliked as the media will have people believe. Need receipts? Even after his Denver experience, players from multiple teams were RECRUITING Russ! That tells you how revered and respected he is for his ability and leadership. Even most of his Broncos and Seahawks teammates liked him, and despite their rocky relationship, Richard Sherman still defends Russ on occasion.
JF is obviously beloved, and people can see why: he oozes charisma and humility. But he DID throw his Chicago coaches under the bus during an interview, which I believe led to his getting traded away. Still, he’s a very likable guy and a solid leader.
(5) Youth: This one is tricky. I made a post about why this wasn’t the advantage people think it is, but I’ll give you the abridged version here.
Only four QBs age 25 or younger have won SBs in the past 24 years:
Brady: 23
Rothlisberger: 23
Russ: 25
Mahomes: 24
*Note that Russ won his SB in his TRUE second year while Mahomes won his in his third year. Russ played pro baseball before entering the NFL draft.
Only 8 QBs have won SBs before age 30 over the past 24 years:
Brady
Rothlisberger
Dilfer (29)
Rodgers (28)
Flacco (27)
Russ
Foles (27)
Mahomes
The four QBs listed among that list of 8 who did not win one at age 25 or younger were 27 or older when they did win, and only Russ, Foles and Mahomes were below the age-30 barrier while winning SBs over the last decade. If you include Flacco’s win from 2012, that still only gives us four. Two of those guys are HoF QBs, and Flacco is borderline. Only Foles is not a HoF QB and wasn’t when he won.
These trends do not bode well for JF in the near future for one simple reason:
With the exception of Dilfer and Foles, the other 6 QBs were showed HoF potential very early in their careers.
Given these FACTS, what reason is there to believe that a one-dimensional QB like JF has the ability to replicate those other performances over the next 3-5 years, let alone this year?
People get hyped up on young QBs, but BETTER QBs have all failed to win SBs recently, sometimes losing to so-called “old QBs.”
Not counting Russ’s loss!
Mahomes lost to Brady
Goff lost to Brady
Burrow lost to Stafford
Cam post to P. Manning
Hurts lost but lost to sub-30 Mahomes
Foles lost to Brady
Young guys just don’t win SBs, if they even get to SBs.
Luck, Winston, Prescott, Watson, and other QBs never got to SBs before age 30, and Jackson, Allen, and Tua still haven’t. Love sat the bench behind Rodgers, and Darnold and Geno were journeymen.
You get my point. Young stud doesn’t equate to SB.
The best comment in the dam section everbody else talking all that jazz. The discusion us over. Please lead mike tomilon
Fields like Trubisky are trash from Chicago if you can't master the position in 4 years? You'll most likely won't.
Key tone changed pretty quick from last week 😂😂😂
that Johnson dude always has been a Russell Wilson hater.
In the end the cancer press Taylor will be fired hopefully he never gets another job in the nfl ever again. The damage and destruction the poison press Taylor has done to the jaguars is unfathomable. The second press Taylor is gone the jaguars will immediately start winning
If I remember correctly he is one of Sean's friends and neighbor. He mentioned it on Cowherd's show last year.
One thing not mentioned about Wilson's performance is it was against a legit Jets defense and he successfully challenged Sauce Garner a few times.
Russ will continue to prove haters wrong. Hasn't played in 11 months but still heated up like left over lasagna. He outplayed Aaron Rodgers by far
As a steeler fan. Im glad we have both Russ and Fields. I look at Fields as the long term QB of the future of my Steelers. They have to undo the 3 years of bad coaching from the multiple regimes in Chicago. Russ can teach Fields and Fields will be better for it in the long run. I still would want the Steelers to pay Tom Brady to work with Fields behind the scenes as well. I also hope the Steelers go get Max Crosby and pair him with TJ Watt.
You would have to give up way too much to get Crosby
All I heard was "he played well but what if what if what if " - Keyshawn
He won one game what does that mean nothing.. he got lucky he may not win another game. Then what
@@thedobermangang3503 The Jets are 2-5 for a reason, their only win was against bottom 5 teams. People are acting like they just beat the 18-0 Pats.
The same jets everybody said AR and Adam’s was gonna take over reunion victory 😂😂😂 yea move the goalpost every time it’s the Steelers winning
I'm a Pittsburgh fan but I love joy she keep it 100
Joy from The Steel City
Robert Saleh wasn't the problem. They fired him and let up 37 points lol
Tomlin kept his word to his QB1
Props to Joy and Shady for not letting the Payton brainwash them too.
Been hearing a lot of stammering and double speak from tons of these jokers today otherwise though.
Maaaan McCoy used to digging Russ grave
One game, relax. Russ will be benched before the season ends. You can save this comment if it makes you feel better.
Great show all were professional and respectful of others time to speak🎉Joy very analytical with this game love her point of view
🎉didn't see any pervs 😅which is very mature as sports fans 🎉we're here for the perspectives
Skip got himself cancelled. Key knows football and he has players mindset, but speak is a good show.
Skip left on his own regard choosing not to renew his contract - big difference! lol Do some research before spouting nonsense 🤣🤣
I like this take that I been hearing today from the media - now they saying well we don't see what the coaches see behind the scenes . With that said then stop questioning a HOF coach !!!!
The steelers stole 2 Qbs 😭
Paul gettin to that Truth status!!!!💪🏿
Russ can make all the throws Key you’re bugging
He missed like 9 passes, where is this "all the throws" comes from? Not one single pass in the middle of the field. Do your homework.
@@AilmanF2P Russ can make… all the throws that Justin can’t.
@@AilmanF2Phe hadn’t played a game in like 11 months
@@Lordperson3it don’t matter to these haters. Wilson could go 55-55 passing and it would be “none of them were over the middle” lol christ man
Russ will continue to prove haters wrong. Hasn't played in 11 months but still heated up like left over lasagna. He outplayed Aaron Rodgers by far
Lmao 😂 Keyshawn is always wrong 😂
Key is straight hating on Russ - He acts like Fields is better than Russ. He’s crazy!
I think is time to start looking at Rodgers.. this is all on him😢
I never knew Paul Pierce was a Steelers fan. I dig it!
Joy is also
@@oskinooa she's a dolphins fan. She grew up Pittsburgh but switched when Jason got drafted
Yall stay wrong on the show and I love it
Let's face it. Aaron Rodgers needs to retire. The handwriting is on the wall.
Agreed❤
Karma is biting him
Agreed💯
Dang these dudes are duds… snooze 😴 Key is horrible. His takes are all feel and no research. Joy needs a better supporting cast!
Key didn't even know how many points the Steelers had in the Jets game. So yeah, research isn't his strong point.
Anybody know what Keyshawn be talking about?
This why I stopped watching shows like this. It's becoming more about having your voice heard and simply having an opinion than actually making a factual, logical assessment. Thank goodness Mike Tomlin is the coach
Joy carries this show man…
These coaches need to accept what is working best. Andy Reid is so good because when running the ball is working he will run the ball, when passing the ball is working they will pass the ball. A lot of coaches this season are in love with throwing the ball.
Meshawn stupidly interrupts every one. He interrupts, which changes the trajectory of the persons commentary
Rodgers still thinks he can just throw guys open for 4 quarters every game. He’s strictly a pocket passer now, that won’t work anymore man
Joy needs to stop talking about the Steelers she said we’re going to finish last in are division
When did we ever have a problem beating the ravens minus ➖ them having Henry now 😂
The first question should have read Was Russell Wilson Vindicated with win?...the coachs should give you the answers to the test its up to the players to go & do there job & have fun thats what there paid to do...Mike Tomlin Quoted saying "I want volunteers not hostages & "The Standard is the Standard...So all hands on deck next man up who can get us to the promise land who can i trust?...Lets find out!!!PAUL PIERCE SPEAKIN THE TRUTH!
She makes the most sense out of the three.
Once again, national media, eating crow and making an excuse excuses, it’s a joke. This is why ESPN and Fox are jokes.
It's so funny to see
Maybe but when's the last time Pittsburg dd anything in the playoffs? They might not even make it that far, we'll see.
@@therealreason06 Steelers getting to the playoffs bro
@@bigcohiba298 Then doing what in the playoffs bro"?
@@therealreason06 that's to be determined
Off course Russ does better with organization & coaching like the steelers. Steellets are the most stable & suoeball driven organization in the NFL .
Aaron Rodgers is way past his prime. Another hopeless season for the Jets.
I have to agree Joy is great but the other guys just don’t make it
She looks great but her other talent is meh at best
Joy n her pretty face is 1 a my all timers!! But where is Ros Gold-Onwudae?? The 2 most adorable sports Sistas!!
Thank you for this! I was born in Pittsburgh but left when I was 4... it would be a dream come true to attend a home game to feel RENEGADE!!!
Man we nitpicking at this point.. it’s insane…
What Russ does well is the play action. He is one of the best at play action.
Its soo refreshing to be able to listen to people talk with Ocho cutting them off constantly 😊😊
In my opinion this was the best thing to happen to the Steelers Justin fields starting 6 games and going 4-2 was perfect for them most people are looking at it from a fan view but when you looking at it from a team view Russ got to get the proper rest he needed while Justin did his thing now Russ is back and they have 10 games left if they can win at least 7 which they will they’ll be good watch out for them in the playoffs!
This show is so much better since the revamp. I couldn't stand it before, but now it feels fun.
Paul Pierce has become a true analyst . He has a long career in this field ahead of him . Good for him
As a life long Jet fan and Native New Yorker I saw this coming 3 years ago. When AR first said he was interested in being traded and one of the teams was the Jets. I said to someone that he just was the wrong type of person to play in NYC.
You guys forget Steelers went 5-1 last year in the division with Mason and Kenny
Keyshawn was 100% wrong about Justin fields starting.
Keyshawn just a hater LMAO, homie said they did a good job beating the raiders, the raiders trash 🗑️
I’m not knocking Russ. He played great. But if the oc had the same play calling for Justin I think it would’ve been a similar game.
That’s the problem you can’t!
@@JohanLWill7_ I think he could handle it
@@Zaymack20fields should of started I still believe that
Russ will continue to prove haters wrong. Hasn't played in 11 months but still heated up like left over lasagna. He outplayed Aaron Rodgers by far
@@Zaymack20 no bro he can’t
The biggest thing for the Steelers is that it felt that we had a leader on offense for the first time since Big Ben.
Paul is speaking facts
The one thing that people are also missing is sitting Fields now if you see more in Russ, you're not hurting Fields confidence waiting for him to fail, and you can say, look you're doing great, but let's put the vet in there so you can continue to learn and grow.
Keyshawn is never impressed by anything 😂😂😂
Is Key hitting that?
No more fitted outfits for joy
🤣💯👀
Rogers gets credit for the loss! 💀
I like the girl on the shore I think she's genuine
I meant I like the girl that's commentating on the show she does a good job and she's genuine
Coach made The right Call !!
Sorry Keyshawn put your credibility and words are out the window
What NFL team did you play on?
Joy looks so bored
Im a Steelers fan who hasn't missed a game since 1995. I always question Tomlins decisions. I'm one who believes when we win, the team overcame Tomlins coaching. Nice win but I don't think we will ever be a serious contender under Tomlin
Fact of the matter is, Jets have to take the ball out of Rodgers and hands to get the offense started. Get that going and then play action seems like the formula now.
Paul Pierce is getting better with his takes.
I like this woman! Lol
Who doesn't??❤❤
@@JJwestoakland1200🤣💯👀
@@JJwestoakland1200 I’m new to her , my bad 😭😭
Another thing ppl aren't speaking on is that the Steelers played a much cleaner game without penalties constantly taking back Big plays & TDs. The WRs also caught and held onto the ball instead of all those drops & whiffs.
Very smart of Mike Tomlin to insert Russell into the lineup. Tomilin puts Russ in during a forgiving stretch of the schedule. As well, Tomlin can showcase Russ to see what he can do witht he 2024 Steelers. This gives Pittsburgh a better idea to see what direction they want to go if they want to keep Russ or shop him. Tomlin has to play Russ for many reasons.
Key is exactly correct.
OC-Smith may not be a good headCoach but he is a very decent OC... he will now be able to open up the playbook even more, something he was not able to do with Fields... if you watch when Fields was in, it was like plays were ran to "protect" him, offensive scheme looked a bit robotic when Fields was in
1:23 what yall are missing is that if Fields starts in more than 50% of the games then the Bears get a 4th round pick vs a 6th...
That is irrelevant. No coach is going to throw his season, job, career, or legacy on the line to keep a 6th round pick from converting to a 4th, especially if he believes the player he got in exchange was worth it. JF was worth a #2 or #3 pick, so the Steelers are nut conserved either way that. It’s a pretty silly argument, TBH.
Russ is just the better QB in just about every way possible.
He doesn’t have JF’s size or open-field speed, but he has JF beaten in every other area, including some mobility stats that might surprise you.
@@DeCurtaRicanlol maybe a coach won’t, but your paragraph left out the owner
@DeCurtaRican if you think that a coach with 2 Super Bowl rings who has never had a losing season, had his career on the line by deciding to bench a player for a week.. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm also not gonna argue that JF is currently any better or worse than Russ.. none of us knew how Russ was going to perform. I dont think this was a matter of skill or not. The one thing that we do know, which is the thing that I haven't heard one commentator speak on, is the fact that a pick is riding on whether JF gets 3 more starts or not.
I think this is the best case scenario for everyone involved. Tomlin is a great leader with two options at the qb spot with ridiculous potential. If anyone is going to find the potential in either of these two players, it's this coach.
Nobody is missing that, it just isn't important. First dude said it perfectly. Also you gotta be smoking something if you think an owner cares more about a 4th round pick than winning
Paul does not need to be on football segment tbh 😭😭 the discussion do not be good cause he not invested in that sport as a ex athlete go get rg3
Hs takes are very basic, don't think he understands the nuances of football. Lowkey I like Stephen A and he definitely knows more about football than Paul but he's another example, he doesn't know the details of other sports like he does basketball.
This defense lookin like the LOB but better and Russ is lookin like a Seattle Russ so far. Idk how the future is gonna go but it’s off to a great start. Hats off to the greatest organization in football for making these adjustments to continue to keep up with the powerhouses in the NFL
Russell Wilson playing Great Football !!
Joy is fire and she’s bright AF
Bottom Line. Russ is a way better QB than Fields. Fields was blessed to play those 6 games to show he can play but he's not gonna win u games against Baltimore or Bills. He threw one TD to a WR in 6 GAMES!!! He deserved to get benched
He scored 10 tds with only 1 pick In six games, that’s pretty good
And it helps that GP is making the catches he should again
WRs made some circus catches and so did the TE. The throws weren't good. Give it more time and see how he does. They also played a horrible team that has lot of injuries on defense. Especially to the DBs. They were missing 4 starting DBs. Let's slow down little bit.
Fields was not benched!! Russ was the starter from day1, he went down with an injury, now he is healthy
I love joy!
I continued to question tomlin until the 2nd half
I don’t agree with Paul often, but Mike SHOULD HAVE EARNED the right to do what he wants, to be a coach WITHOUT a loosing record
I'm happy Steelers scored some points finally.hopefully down the stretch they can repeat this.