Why would they give away this Murray Lawn Mower?
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This was a free mower, but once I cleaned it, it looks to be in really good shape. So why would someone give this mower away?
Believe it or not I actually enjoy cleaning carbs, and on strimmers, hedge cutters etc.
No carb is too dirty to at least give it a go, the satisfaction if it works.
Great video.
Great point! thank you MrSHAUNE55
I used to think like that, but I had a snowblower that I beat my brains out trying to get the old carb to work, without success (it sort of worked). Replaced it and so far so good. I think I spent $15 for the new carb. But I did have to wait 3 weeks for it.
I had a mower that wouldnt start. Took the carb off cleaned it replaced the plug and air filter. Got it back together and it fired up the first pull. I was very happy
Tecumseh Engines are usually simple, and easy to service. It's true that many people don't like them, and the company had quality control issues prior to the end of production in late 2008. Tecumseh got an undeserved bad reputation many years earlier, because people simply didn't take time to understand how to service them correctly, or know what they were working on. I really like Tecumseh Engines, and I preserve all of them I can get. This is the cleanest free lawn mower I have ever seen.
thank you shawneehills7 for the information
yea I had a couple on go karts, and the carb could be finicky compared to other brands I've used, but engine itself ran great.
I’d rather deal with a Briggs just because the parts are cheaper and easier to get.
@@brianandrews7099 meh parts seem to cost about the same for me usually, for aftermarket stuff at least.
Kohler engines are crap.
At my shop we always try to save original parts. So we definitely do more rebuilds than replacing carbs. The original carbs on these are a lot better compared to the chinese replacements. That's saying a lot considering how much I hate Tecumseh engines lol. I've seen these aftermarket carbs come back after just a couple months with all sorts of issues. Heated ultrasonic cleaner with simple green gets 90% of these varnished carbs back to new.
thank you Kevin Brown, and yes, I would suspect that the carbs will have issues come up later on Sooner than later, but the thing is, it was going to happen anyway, because the person using the mower isn't going to take care of it anyway. It's just a real shame.
Detailed tutorial and logical sequence. Still have to disassemble old carb to see if it is reusable. In this case, the old carb was cleaned and reinstalled to show that it still leaks. This, replacement was necessary. If it is just a solo project, then rebuilding would be also a good option. Really enjoy the calm narration and understandable pace. Excellent DIY video and worthy of sharing with others which I will do.
Thanks again for your time and patience!!!
thank you Mr G. Yes I had to at least try it out to find out it needed to be replaced.
Amazing find! The mower runs like new now and looks like new too!
I know right, it's a shame I probably won't keep it.
Can't know without some trying whether the new carburetor is running lean. Those engines don't like to run lean although I think the EPA tried to enforce lean running.
So jealous, what a great find and excellent information.
Thanks for watching Aaron John, I appreciate it.
That's the world's cleanest used mower,, that is a gem and an unbelievable find.
I know right, for something used, it's in good shape.
Great commentary on the repair. Mine has a different Air box and filter so I may go that route. I did order a carb but I have not swapped it yet.. That is chapter 2
Good luck with it and thank you Jim Lum
Great video! I have done both and now I just replace the carb to save time
thank you Marcus Scott
Excellent video. With both quality pictures and narrative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very clean! They probably kept it as a backup mower.
It's a really decent mower, I might just have to
I would have followed the same steps as you did. I am currently working on my friend's mower that was stored outside for years. I tried cleaning the carb but found it leaked afterwards so I ordered a new one. I really enjoy all of your videos about restoring free mowers.
I'm glad to see you working to keep this machines running. I think it's a better idea than buying a new one. Also thank you for watching as well.
Nice fix I have a older Murray lawnmower I found in the trash with the older tecumch. Engine and the carburetor will most likely need to be replaced you got to love it when someone throws away 2 lawnmowers at the same house
I know right, It makes my job a lot easier.
That's the nicest Murray I've ever seen. Congratulations, Home Garage.
I know right! thanks 999thenewman
I honestly thought the Tecumseh company went out of business years ago. Surprised to see this mower... I did rebuild a 3HP Tecumseh horizonal engine on an old Craftsman edger and still have it too. Thumbs Up!
nice edger, I do find their side shafts pretty good engines. Thank you Gary Mucher
They are temperamental engines. They will run, however they are hard to start.
Only if you do not know how to do so. I have Tecumseh engines that are 20, 30, 40 and 50 years old in some cases and they still run like brand new. Many of them came right from the curb just like this one. Many times it’s just the “mechanics” that attempt to “fix” them.
Even if the motor was damaged it was worth picking up. Properly maintained engines will out-live multiple mower decks. I have a "Frankenstein" mower with the motor off a Poulin that rusted out, and the deck from an MTD that had a damaged engine. Almost all store brands were built by MTD anyway.
Definitely learnt a good idea to check the needle and seat operation before carb cleaning thoroughly. If not just replace.
you make a good point. I should have looked at it first.
Great video! I've just overhauled the carb on my 20 year old Tecumseh mower, also removed the cap that hides the small jet on its side. Bad news in the UK - we have E10 petrol from 2 days ago, E5 has been phased out. Glad I've got plenty of fuel lines and carb diaphragms for future repairs!
thats a shame, thank you Mark Pablo
One thing's for sure, from now on I'll be taking your advice and will run my equipment dry over the winter - something I've never needed to do before.
it's what I do, and I rarely have a problem.
Of all these types of videos out there, you do the best closeup shots.
I appreciate that
I have a Tecumseh snowblower that would start but kept dying out. I disassembled the carb, heavily cleaned and assembled with little luck. $8 carburetor off of eBay had it running like new. Well worth the purchase.
nice work
I recently worked on my father's Earthquake Versa garden tiller and narrowed the problem to the carb. I knew someone else had worked on it and tried to clean the carb with with some kind of ultrasonic device with limited success. I noticed a new carb was only $20 online, so I ordered a new one and it runs perfectly. I judged that another removal and cleaning of the carb with low chance of success was well worth $20 and I was right in that instance. A lot of parts are amazingly cheap these days, and that question is worth asking. Great videos, thanks!
well reasoned out, the new carb, has very good chance to succeed and the re-clean would have a lower chance,.
Great video. I would have to say that I agree with you on what you said about the carb.
thank you Rob Kercheval
Excellent video, the narration instead of live talking is great, and unlike most, you actually respect the viewer's time. So many of the ramblers just don't get that. Going to watch your others now!
I really do appreciate that Al Legory, that means a lot to me.
You have helped me and got me into small engine repair career change. Thanks for what you show us
Glad to help
I definitely would clean it....when its that dirty I'll just let the carb soak overnight in a container, however, I remove the rubber seat and bowl gasket and just replace them with a new ones upon reassembling, great vid as usual, keep 'em coming !
thank you Massimo Terenzi
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
You are very welcome!
Great video! I like your process. The only things I typically see go wrong with these carbs are dirty jets and needle and seal. The cleaning part was helpful and informative making for a good video. If no video was involved, as soon as I saw the needle and seat, it would be new carb time. No further cleaning necessary, but that wouldn’t be much of a video.
I recently worked on a two year old mower for a customer. It had a Honda GCV160 engine. He was using ethanol gas, and the entire fuel system was destroyed. I replaced everything but the tank. All of the gaskets crumbled in my hand, and both fuel lines were collapsed internally. That was the worst fuel system I have ever seen, and I have worked on 20 year old mowers that sat outdoors for years. I was amazed that ethanol could do that much damage in such a short amount of time.
wow, ethanol really sucks.
I personally enjoy cleaning carbs. I've had ATV carbs that people were gonna throw out and buy new ones and I cleaned them up to where the ATV's ran great. But I do know what you are saying about time wasting on cleaning them. Fortunately I am a loner and so I have lots of time to tinker on stuff that most people don't. Great video by the way!!
you and me both Livin' The Dream, thank you for watching and the comment
I don't know where you are in the US but here in NJ my boss charges $85/hr labor. That carb would be changed, check out the rest of the mower and out the door. Been watching your channel for couple years. Very informative. 👍👍👍
Thank you Joe Apicelli, I'm in the Midwest.
Love those old tecumsehs.
I know right
I would try to clean that carb, that's half the fun of it, plus here in New Zealand a new carb would be $100 or so, parts are expensive here. Can buy from China but it's a 4-8 week wait to arrive. Another great video, thank you!
Great point! thank you M C
Just found your channel and really like it. It's nice that you just show and tell us what you're doing and you do that without having your face in the video 90% of the time like so many others do. The only downside I saw was in the opening you do do what so many others do and that is that you start with "what's up everybody?" That annoys me because that's asking me a question that I can't answer because I'm here and you're there on the other side of a video. It seems to be the trend these days so I guess we're stuck with it but Hey I do enjoy your channel.
I've thought about changing it but I hate change, but I'm not sure what else to use. You are only the 3rd person ever, to mention having a problem with that greeting. So it must not erk most people. Do you have a suggestion for a greeting then?
GrEat vid man. Seems like many small engine issues start with the carb.
That is a great place to start at. Thank you Phil Del Giudice
I'd add a disclaimer on the "use brake cleaner instead," only use non-Chlorinated brake cleaner to clean intake and fuel system parts as the Chlorinated kind (usually labeled non-flammable) can decompose to phosgene gas if some of it gets into the combustion chamber and someone breaths just a tiny amount of the exhaust, it only takes a few ppm to do permeant lung damage and/or kill someone, many welders have found out the hard way using chlorinated brake clean to prep weld surfaces.
than you Brandon Upchurch for the information
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE The CSB (Chemical Safety Board) did a fatalgram on phosgene gas. Worth watching.
It’s a real shame that the only thing preventing you from saving the original carb was a replacement needle seat, especially given how easy and inexpensive that replacement is. There’s a special, inexpensive tool to remove and install the seat and the seats themselves are dirt cheap, especially if purchased in bulk. I just replaced my first one on a mower after cleaning and it started first pull and ran flawlessly. The carb is so simple and easy to clean compared to some 2-cycle engines I was amazed at the simplicity of the design.
thanks Rein Ciarfella.
Save them and find a small engine repair hobbyist. I am always happy to take in old parts myself, or save it for yourself. There's other parts you can always swap out.
I had an old Tecumseh 4hp push mower that ran for 12 or 13 years. The mower and deck and everything else wore out before that Tecumseh engine. You couldn't kill that thing. And it would cut thick high grass that would make other mowers cry. I actually ended up putting that engine on another deck and used if for another 3 or 4 years before giving it to a neighbor that needed a mower. Took him all of 3 weeks before he hit a brick and finally put the old girl to rest. God, I loved that mower, lol.
the engine had a good life up till the end. Thank you Old Skool
Since I’m just teaching myself small engine work and acquiring abandoned equipment to repair and sell on I’ll try to repair everything I can before replacing any parts. I want to see exactly what causes issues so I have mental images for the future, plus I’m just a curious person and like to understand how things work and/or fail. Also the satisfaction of solving an issue myself rather than throwing parts at it. Since this is hopefully going to be a secondary income for me my time is less valuable and also I’m not doing repairs for customers so there isn’t someone waiting for their equipment. Really excellent videography and lighting. It’d be nice sometime for you to do a video listing your equipment and showing how it’s set up in use. Thanks!
thank you, I appreciate you taking time out of your day to watch and respond.
INSIDE HOUSE GARAGE Already subscribed too! 👍🔧🧰
thank you Rein Ciarfella
Most of the time when I get an old mower with a Tecumseh engine like this on it, I find the primer bulb is super stiff, and I replace the carb with the same cheap ones you showed. I also remove the carb with the intake. Often the intake gasket doesn't survive and has to be replaced. I keep a few of these gaskets and carbs in stock.
yep, you're tips are priceless when it comes to working on one of these
I absolutely love your videos
thank you Rich Schafer.
I don't know who came up with it, but the spark checker is the greatest invention since sliced bread as far as I'm concerned 😊
very true
I’d always try and clean the carb first, love a challenge. I add a 150 micron screen Briggs fuel filters on all my equipment.
thank you 60 Gunner
Glad to see the "just shoot it with gas and see" recommendation got through. Saves 20 minutes off each repair and only costs 10 seconds if it's wrong. I recommend an ultrasonic cleaner if you want to save time on carbs. Take it apart and Chuck everything in and run it for 20 minutes. Change the water once or twice till it runs clean. It'll clean everything out of the small holes with little to no effort.
I've considered it but I'm trying to see if I would even use it, It's just so easy to buy a new carb.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE You will. I've found so many things I've used mine for. Derusting bolts, quick cleaning parts, fixing stuck locks, circuit boards, unsticking EGR valves.... The little desktop 2 piezo units are more than sufficient for small engines and if you like it, then upgrade to something more substantial.
wow I had no idea they were so versatile!
I have one, but the carbs I get are so gummed up from old ethenol fuel that I usually have to replace. I now keep several of the more commonly used carbs in my parts inventory
@@dave1135 I started doing that as well especially as the company I deal with has package deals like the four pack of Tecumseh Snow King carbs I bought that were under $45 delivered so about $11.25 each. Obviously they're not OEM but 5 years in and the two I put on machines I sold to neighbors are working great.
I have only bought one mower, a Troy Built self propelled that I paid about half price for. All of the others were given to me and one I literally found outside an abandoned house in very tall grass.
All had been abused and neglected. One could use a rebuild but it doesn't smoke. It does use about half its oil in about an hour of running though.
nice finds, glad to see you didn't have to buy them.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks and I feel the same way! We live in a throw away society and most people underrate and neglect lawn mowers. Today I saw one stored under a deck while two were in a storage shed with no door.
I miss old techumseh motors.
I haven't watched all the way. In all my 20+ years of working on mowers. Only once, I have ever bought a new carb.
They haven't made techumseh stuff in years minus air filters and some gaskets and needle seats.
thank you chef soufflé
I tried fixing up a Honda HRR mower that was overrevving but there were several things wrong with it that made me conclude that the engine was a total loss. The first is that the oil was low and completely burnt, meaning that this thing was revving very high with low dirty oil. It made a scraping noise as it ran, which meant that the piston was rubbing against the cylinder wall. Second, someone screwed with the engine so bad that even the slightest adjustment to the governor would cause the engine to either run at a very low speed or an extremely high speed, there was no in between. It couldn’t have been the carburetor because it was completely spotless on the inside. This one was free, so I decided to use it for parts since the carburetor was still good along with several other parts
sounds like almost every honda engine I get
Love the Tecumseh engine, they are so economical in fuel compared to Briggs and Honda.
Cleaning is difficult especially getting the centre fuel jet out of car by.
really? I'm going to have to do some economy testing in the future. thank you Rick Thelian.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I've ran them side by side and a Briggs has more power. Might use more gas for that reason.
very informative vid!
Glad you think so!
Seeing that the carburetor is only $11, replacing it is the obvious, economical solution; but I enjoy the challenge of trying to repair the original as long as the time spent is considered recreational.
me too, and I typically try to save it, If possible
these old engines bring back the 2000s nostalgia where everyone had one like it
you got that right.
i bought a cheap ultrasonic cleaner ..and i use carb dip which can be re used lots and bought at local auto parts store!! i usually always try cleaning first!!
yes you're right Kurt Parker, thanks for the comment.
The first thing I noticed was how clean the deck was. I thought maybe you washed it. The second thing that stood out was that the tires looked barely worn. I'm surprised that someone who clearly took good care of there mower would let the carb get dirty and just give up on it. Their loss is your gain. Thanks for your time.
A Patterson, yes I washed it to get the hold grass and dirt off of it, but what you see, is the real beauty of this mower. I usually wash mowers so they are nicer to film.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks! Yep, it was a diamond in the rough for sure!
Cleaning hasn't been a waste of time for me and always has to be a first diagnostic step. I don't mind the intake and exhaust same side. I'm envious of your dexterity connecting the linkage; I find that a hassle. My linkage assembly is somewhat different. It's inconclusive how you determined the seat was damaged @6:14. The seat didn't leak until after priming which meant (to me) that the float properly rose and the needle sealed at fill up.
the video had to be truncated for time, I do apologize. The seat had basically deformed and caused the needle not to sit well
Have you ever worked on a leaf vacuum me . I have a craftsman yard vacuum with a Tecumseh engine, it works great, but wen you run it on high, you use lots of fuel, but I guess that’s cause it needs too move that Giant impeller. I leave it at about half throttle since I don’t clean up wet leaves, i stays top of it for general maintenance. And i will be tearing apart our yard machines snowblower, the belts are all stretched so they need to be replaces, and i will work on some of the rusted spots, any pro tips on how to remediate some of the rusted spots.
yes I have a yard machines walk behind leave vacuum with a Tecumseh engine on it. it's not fun to work on and yes its uses a lot of gasoline too. good luck on the snow blower.
You can remove the carburetor without removing the muffler, just use a Phillips driver.
You should get an ultrasonic cleaner. You can get a cheap one for $80 at Harbor Freight. They are a lifesaver when it comes to carb cleaning. Mine paid for itself in the first month that I had it.
I've thought about it,
Here in Australia I have three old Tecumseh Victa mowers I have come to, non run. All have a similar engine to this.
One runs when you use starter spray. It has oil weeping it near the carburettor area and the air cleaner like this one is saturated in oil and dirt.
The other has a cracked fuel tank and the previous owner said he replaced the carburettor but the motor stalls when it warms up.
The third I got for the fuel tank and any other parts I can use for the other two. Person I got it off says the engine is no good -didn't specify.
good luck with them. Hopefully you can get most of them running well.
Thanks. Your video came at the right time.
Looking at the overall condition of this mower, it looks like it was used for a season or two, and then had likely been sitting for at least four or five years, if not longer. It was likely still running when they stopped using it. The issues it had were related to it sitting.
I know right, aside from under the deck, the mower is just dusty when got it.
Adjust the floats. Use the shank of a 11/64 drill bit as a spacer .
If that doesn’t work, new seat, I have been successful in using a Briggs seat in a Tecumseh carburetor
But with new Chinese carbs it’s pretty much easier to replace it , but the Chinese carbs seem to corrode easier
Thanks for the info!
Yes i would have tried to clean it first, but you are right it is quicker just to replace the carb, but i feel it is a waste just throwing things away .
Oh I wasn't going to throw the old carb away, I would just clean it later on off camera , so I can take my sweet time , and enjoy cleaning it. Thank you Alan Lake.
i have a 1996 tecumseh snow blower still runs good today american made there great motors it just takes knowing something to work on them btw people are to damn lazy to put in any effort to repair something i grab mowers off the curb all the time
I completely agree with you.
a simple storage trick to keep the carb clean is to run the mower until there is no gas left in the system. then put half a cup of transmission fluid in the gas tank. pull the engine a few times to work the fluid through the system.
the trans fluid prevents any drying gasoline residue from forming sludge thus keeping the carb clean. tranny fluid will not harm any of the plastic or rubber components.
in the spring then fill the tank with fresh gas and let the mower sit for an hour. the mower will then start normally. the first tank will be smoky as the mower burns of the tranny fluid gas mixture. just use the mower normally and refill with fresh gas for the rest of the season.
this works for any gas powered equipment.
do you use this method yourself then?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE always
nice
like all the information ty
Thanks for watching David Mcquay
That mower looks great..
It does! I was surprised.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I would like to find one in similar condition.. I'm not a lawn care guy but I do collect lawnmowers & rarely use them. I have invested time & money on a few in order to make them look new & run like new.. It's a hobby, I stopped mowing my lawn now that I hired a lawn care company. I've had offers but I don't think I will sell any of them. I have a thing for lawnmowers lol.
I admire your devotion to this hobby. I only wish I had the time to do the same. I just get them running is all.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thank you... I was thinking of asking you if by chance you find a mower in mint condition, I will pay you top dollar for it. That's if you ever decide in looking to sell them. I can definitely pay you for that Honda HRR216VKAA you just picked up I believe.. those are classic mowers & probably the best Honda made for the market...
I'll consider it but I have more plans for that particular mower.
Every carb can be saved if you clean it for hours in a ultra sonic cleaner and rebuild it. Or you can just order a new one and be done. Carbs in the states seem to be more or less free. Here in Sweden a Briggs carb can cost up to 100 dollars
wow did not know they where that expensive there
I always attempt to clean carbs first. I have only encountered one or two that could not be cleaned. I will occasionally replace them anyway if the cost of a new carb is low. For instance, the OEM carb on a GCV160 engine is $13. If the gaskets on the old carb need to be replaced, the cost of the gaskets will exceed the cost of a new carb. In that case, I just replace it and save the old one for parts.
do you have a link to that OEM GCV160 carb? That seems to be priced more like an aftermarket one.
Quick test you can perform with carb off is to hold it in position where the float is down, you should be able to blow through gas line, then hold it upside down (float should close with needle seated) then try blow through again, if you can’t that should quickly tell you it’s seating and not leaking
yes you are absolutely right
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE love your channel btw. Very well thought out trouble shooting, great advice, and fun to watch. Thanks for the time you put into it!
I appreciate that Illusion X
the tecumseh engine maybe a pain to remove the carb but it sure seems like these tecumseh engines were very reliable because there are still plenty of them out there still running. How do you compare it to other brands? I seem to be having bad luck with HF Honda clones having issues after just a few years. The latest is it starts to hunt after it gets hot. I've cleaned the carb, etc.
yes you make a good point.
Ethenol gasoline sells more carburators than any other cause.
Most small engine repair shops agree fuel damaged carbs are the most common repair they see!
Everyone seems to think it should be covered by warranty (because the owners manual didn't specifically tell them to not store the equipment for long periods of time with gas in it) the owners manual says it can RUN on fuel with up to 10, or 15% ethenol!
Their argument is there is fuel in my car all year long....
Another note: Tecumseh carburetor frequently leak if improperly assembled (the seat for the float needle if installed upsidedown will leak nonstop)! I have often found homeowners install a shutoff valve in the fuel line instead of correctly reinstalling the seat.
agreed
Nice find, good video. 👍 This may help others to start repairing/recycling. I love finding these mowers with Tecumseh engines. They are some of the most durable running units. Shame Tecumseh is out of production. Just additional information the long end of the needle valve clip should be pointing toward the choke end of the carb.
Stay well, Joe Z
I completely agree with you JOE Z. thanks for the comment
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE You're welcome.
I usually replace the seat and orings and bowl gasket, like to keep it original. Oem rebuild kits are super cheap.
yep! just got one for $6 on ebay. OEM kit, engine runs like a top. 👌
Great point! thank you Trent Williams
super affordable.
These tecumseh motors are not my favorite at all. You must take the muffler off to acess the bolt to remove the carb with a deep socket. You should not remove the intake manifold. Doing so tears the gasket which will cause it to leak not drawing a correct vacuum to pull in fuel. I always blast these in the ultrasonic cleaner at full temperature. After it's boiling for a while you can push out the emulsion tube. You must replace the O-rings (size 006). The idle circuit also is very weak and the only way I get them going is with the ultrasonic cleaner.
I gotta rebuild an old 3hp tecumseh dual output shaft for a troy built jr tiller, late 80s. 3hp rebuild kits are scarce to find
I haven't had the chance to rebuild one yet. good luck with it
The problem that I have with these types of push mowers is that the wheels break out of the frame well before the engine wears out. I have taken my current push mower to a welder twice to get a steel plate welded where the back wheels bolt onto the frame after having the wheels to break out of the frame.
Next time use a thick piece of plywood or scrap piece of 2x4 bolted on.
you are absolutely correct.
I just bought a new Murray last week,Then I read the reviews and they were bad..Hopefully I got a good one
I hope so too.
If that is a LEV 115 or LEV 120 engine it will be very powerful if the carburetor is adjusted properly. I wonder if the replacement carburetor has any provision for adjustment (such as different calibration bowl nuts to choose from)
the LEV engine seems to have reversed the placement of the exhaust and intake valves and ports compared to older model Tecumseh engines. The original carb might have had a plastic part inside the "center leg" that could get damaged by carburetor cleaner. "Nozzle" ?
Should splice a fuel shut off valve into the fuel line and use it before putting machine away after use.
Looking again I think the LEV 115 and 120 have slightly bigger air cool fins on the cylinder and head than that one does.
thank you David Powell I might have to took at it again and see if it has any adjustment on it.
I would clean it but only if using an ultrasonic cleaner or else the inner passages will not be cleaned. Also I would use a carb rebuild kit and change the needle and seat. I've had bad experiences with those knock off carbs and go for OEM rebuilds instead.
thank you Al's Repair and Restoration
Maybe you could do a video about searching for the correct parts. How do you find the right replacement carb or other part? If it's an older model or a less popular brand it could be tough. For example, I have an older Homelite trimmer and I don't even know where to begin. Are there more specialized sellers you would recommend above Amazon? Do I need to remove the old carb first to identify it? I would rather remove it immediately before replacing it, otherwise I'll probably screw up putting the new one on. Can you use a different carb or do you always need the exact replacement for your model? Thanks!
that's definitely an idea. thank you James Hinckley, I'll have to consider it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE And thank you for the great content. This is my first video. After I watched this one I saw that you already did one on my old Homelite straight shaft trimmer! And the links to replacement parts were great - I already have most of them in my shopping cart.
glad it was helpful. I appreciate the follow up
I keep carbs, and all the seats needed on hand. Cheaper to put in a $0.50 seat than an $11 carb, but I do small engine repair as a hobby, and most people probably can't justify spending $10 on 20 seats when they only need one. If you're just doing your own grab a new carb. If you do it on the side for fun, and a little extra pocket change grab some seats.
that makes sense to me, thank you Matt Piekarski
Hello, where did you get the carb at that price? Good video.
I got it from amazon.
i have a 2013 toro commercial with a kawasaki engine, it feels like it’s under powered and i think it’s the values, it always starts first pull and does run well
you might be right.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE the only thing is i’ve never done values before and not too sure how, do you have a video explaining this
sorry I don't have a video on that
If you don’t mind asking what a fair resale value would be on this Machine did you sell or keep?
for me, I think it would be $60 to $80, and maybe more in the spring time.
A simple mower.......but a perfectly good save.
You got that right! thank you DeadKoby
You should get a Amazon heated ultrasonic cleaner. They are awesome. Most cases you can take the bowl off and dunk it for 30 mins and it’s freed up and good to go.
thank you Stephen Brewer, is that that one you have?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I do not own one but I have access to one at my job. Occasionally I will clean some if needed, and it’s super easy. Barely have to even do a tear down. Good video by the way!
thanks again Stephen Brewer. I'll take a look at them.
Brilliant
thank you
With all the engines you work on, is it not time to consider getting an ultrasonic heated parts cleaner? Not a huge one just one big enough for carbs.
I've considered It but I'm still not sold on it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE It would make things SO much easier and more economical over time too.
Ultrasonic is the bomb!
On Tecumseh carbs that are that dirty I just replace them. That is a really clean old mower.
I know right. I didn't think that when I got it, but after I cleaned it, I was shocked.
I try to clean Tecumseh carbs. I try a cleaning, and a new needle and seat. Same with Briggs Quantum carburetors. Otherwise, I replace them.
Thanks for sharing
If I had the needle and/or seat readily available then I would clean it.
I know in the case with my dads Honda GSV190 powered lawnmower I'm not sure if there's any aftermarket carburetor available for it & the OEM carburetor Isn't very cheap so cleaning it is the best option in that case, there's aftermarket carburetors available for the domestic Honda lawnmower engines but I'm not sure about the higher non domestic grade of engine that I'm talking about.
If you're someone whose like Taryl who professionally rebuilds the B&S carburetors he has packets full of the needle seats in stock therefore he replaces them when the carburetor leaks fuel !
for some reason, I don't like to keep spare parts for mower carbs, I just like ordering new ones for some reason.
I'd absolutely try to clean it, but I don't run a small engine repair business where my time is part of the profits. I also have the benefit of an ultrasonic cleaner, so the time it's in there I can be doing other things.
thank you Clif B.
Ive been a small engine mechanic for forty years.Tecumseh is by far the easiest engine to work on. 80% or better of all repairs to a small engine is the carburetor.
I agree, It almost seemed like they wanted them to be easy to work on.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE, if they're simple to work on, they're easy to make, and if they're easy to make, then they're cheaper to produce.
I was talking to an Murray representative twenty five years ago, late 90's. At that time he told me that their economy mower, complete in the box, and on the loading dock, ready to ship, cost $28 to manufacture. Engine and all. It wasn't much different for AYP, and Made To Die (MTD) either.
I can believe that. If the mower cost $100 at the store, 28 seems right
I would clean the carb in my ultrasonic cleaner. Time spent, is a matter of Learning. You get a better of understanding of how things work.
you are definitely right about that. Thank you ThePheonix2009
Do you have a website that sells mower parts?
sure, I use Ereplacmentparts dot com.
An actual carburator needle seat kit is actually 10 dollars or so at your local mower shop. Either way, it worked out..
thank you Thomas Roche
Wish still made those engines :/
Personally I'm a fan of Tecumseh, especially with the muffler and carb on one side. It makes tipping it over really easy and eliminates guesswork on which side to tip it onto. I don't understand why you need to remove the muffler to get to the carb, I just use a skinny Phillips head and go bottom to top and boom it's off! The only thing that bothers me is the linkage, I'm always worried I'll stretch the springs. My personal opinion on the worst small engine is the newer Briggs classics that have plastic shrouding, for some reason the carburators are so volatile, too fast, too slow, and if it's not right it overheats. There's some sciences with that I need to understand better but until I do it just feels scary. This is all fairly biased because the first mower I ever had was a Briggs quantum that had a short rope and never ran for me, and the first one that did was a Tecumseh. I suppose the carb issues are from putting diaphragm and gaskets in the wrong order though. Great video and keep up the good work! I look forward to more!
Sometimes I find that small bolt, very tight, and difficult to turn with just a screwdriver, So I need the too, use. socket.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE that makes sense because I have a habit of working on stuff til it's completely perfect so the bolts are never cranked like they are when you find them
Here in my area of Ohio, I find at least two curbside mowers a week. At least 90% of them are there due to lack of proper Winter storage and have fuel issues.
I know right, it's just bad preventative maintenance. thank you Fran Leck
I’m on Cape Cod so similar climate. Do you tend to find those mowers more often in the Spring?
Honestly, in my area of NJ it's rare to find mowers on the curb. If it doesn't work, people search the internet to try to fix it. Many times they get lucky. I think they watch Inside House Garage lol.
@@Rein_Ciarfella For myself, mowers tend to pop up from April to late July. After that it switches to snow related equipment.
Fran Leck Thanks. That’s what I was thinking but wanted confirmation from someone with experience.
If the "bell" is broken off the inside of the gas cap the mower will constantly seep gas from under the cap even if the cap is tight while the engine is running.
I'd clean the carb because I like a challenge wth these Tecumseh carburetors.
Fair enough!
I have 3 push mowers with that same motor on them
nice!
I keep those carbs in stock as well as quantum’s. Quantum’s are around $8 a pop. I will do a quick and dirty carb job. If that doesn’t fix it new carb it is. I won’t even think about firing up my ultrasonic cleaner for a carb less than $50.
Great FIND! Nice $100-$125 mower!
you make a great point. would you mind sending me a link to the ultrasonic you have or maybe where you got it from. I am interesting in looking into one.
i,d go with a cleaning and rebuild first and if that does not solve the problem i,d install a new carburetor for sure no worries as it,s always a 50-50 chance of cure to success etc.
yes you are absolutely right.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yep never doubted myself on that topic of technical try outs and diagnostics etc.