Correction Notice: there are other states with more lakes. The statement at 0:26 was based on each state's own lake count, but their definitions of what constitutes a lake varies. So apologies about the oversight, Minnesota, we love you guys, you'll get a super bowl someday!
It's my understanding that Wisconsin had more lakes than Minnesota. But that may be because I live in Wisconsin. I once stumbled into a controversy by saying confidently that Cayuga Lake was bigger than Seneca. This sounds similar.
Wisconsin counts every bofy of water as lak3s, minnesota only counts actuallakes over 1o acres and they dont count swamps, other wise minnesotawould actuallybe over 18,000 lakes. @@snowmonster42
@@placesofthepast You might want to edit this video. The part about Buttes des Morts is incorrect. That legend is just a legend. I worked on that site as an archaeology student and it's definitely not a massacre. They predate contact with the French and are likely the result of Old World diseases arriving before the people.
Hi cold void I’m trying to write an essay about a historical Wisconsin politician who displayed courage in his political acts. Do u have any recommendations?😊
Seeing Holy Hill make this video is amazing as a local to that unique place. Even if youre not religious it is 100% worth visiting for its history, architecture, and amazing sight seeing. On a clear day you can see the skyline of Milwaukee and just about the best fall color scenery. Wisconsin and the midwest are not a flyover states, thank you for helping show why. Edit: my dentist is also a descendant of Governor Dodge.
So well done! I run a channel about Milwaukee real estate, which made me look into the history of the city - and I know how much work it took you to make this video! Well done, looking for part 2!
Grew up in Michigan , moved to Kenosha WI during my teen years and it was fantastic. The people are great and it was the first time I saw pots full of old style beer with brats in them. DELICIOUS 🤤
I think many people fail to realize just how beautiful this state is, and as a kid growing up in Milwaukee I used to be among them. I've often heard it referred to as "boring flyover country" or "flat farmland". I've traveled to a lot of places and the Driftless is still one of the most gorgeous areas I've ever seen.
The oldest house was not originally where they showed it. As a kid we would play near the first settlement. They moved it to Heritage Hill to make a park.
Surprisingly no mention of attempts to built a series of locks & dams from the Wisconsin River to the Bay of Green Bay. Today Appleton is restoring the portion thru the Jewel of the Fox Valley
@@placesofthepast You're whole concept is great, and there is a hunger for this kind of often neglected regional American history, especially the midwest. An example of the music being too loud for me is 2:38-3:08. I only mention this because you got everything else going for you magnificently. Just subscribed...
@@SidLaw500 I think I liked the music so much, I tended to err on the side of emphasizing it. Plus, it sounded more balanced in the headphones I was using to edit, so thanks for the feedback.
@@placesofthepast The music is of the sweeping Hollywood soundtrack style which if too loud can misrepresent the feeling/scale of an informational or visual moment. In such an instance, my tendency is to turn the sound off and watch the subtitles. At any rate, enough of my opinion...all the best to you and your channel!
I’d love to research the history of what their land was used for before their park days. I once somewhere saw a photo of Peninsula Park being used as sheep grazing land, and it looked just like Ireland
I definitely would have appreciated some more time dedicated to the native American tribes that first settled Wisconsin and the history of their civilizations, but this was a great video
Your story is quite whitewashed for several important historical factors - one being that an accurate historical accounting of what involved the Blackhawk group, clearly shaped the repercussions of later land sessions and broken treaties. You’re statement that . If you are going to relay a portion of history, tell the full story of that portion and how it affected all parties involved - especially if you’re attempting to tell a true story of wisconsin history. To state that ‘more Indians sold their territory and moved westward’, again this is quite whitewashed and untrue. Your “no telling of history includes everything”, well that just isn’t the case unless you wish to tell just one side of that story. What you tell is your own version of what you wish to express.
I'm Ho-chunk from Wisconsin. Incidentally, Minnesota counts their lakes only if they are 10 acres or more. Wisconsin has no minimum limits for their dnr count. If MN and WI both counted their lakes with no minimum, or both counted their lakes with a 10 acre minimum, MN would win either way. I still love this land, but that is just not factual.
@@placesofthepast You might want to look up what truth means. Minnesota only counts bodies of water that are 10 acres or more as lakes, if they used the same classification as Wisconsin they would have a lot more claimed lakes.
I worked with the excavation site on Buttes des Morts as an archaeology student and I can tell you it's not a massacre site that's just a local legend. The legend about the bodies piled up from the French war there is false. The remains predate the French-Meskwaki conflict and show signs of likely disease as a cause of death. If you stand on the location and look down over the lakes it's a nice view. I can't blame for thinking it's a nice site to have to put something as unfortunate as a mass grave.
Wow, very cool that you worked on the site! So is it possible that bodies were simply added to an existing burial mound? I only wonder if there is a way to harmonize the archaeological facts with the legend, which has been told for hundreds of years. Unless the story originated from a different (maybe much smaller) mound no longer known or in existence.
I love the history, good editing, and beautiful visuals. My suggestions to make this even better is to take the Indigenous view into account for a more nuanced approach. Looking forward to the next video!
The Nicolet/ Chequamegon national forest gives a small glimpse of it. Unfortunately, we don't have any of our old growth timber remaining besides a few scattered trees now.
On the video? No. Actually I might have attempted to consult Chat GPT for errors, but it doesn’t really know anything, and makes up facts when it feels like that’s what you want to hear.
Thank you for the compliment, and sadly yes about Bad Axe - I used the historical name that is on the markers, though there was certainly some fighting involved. Apparently Black Hawk tried to surrender a couple times, but some sources said the gesture was misunderstood. I wonder if it’s possible to determine how sincere the “misunderstanding” part was.
"It has more lakes than any state but Alaska" wrong. Minnesota has more. Wisconsin only has more by THEIR metric of what is considered a lake. Minnesota defines a lake as a body of water greater than 10 acres. That’s how it got the 11,482 number in its Public Waters Inventory. Wisconsin defines a lake as, well, anything it feels like calling a lake. Thousands are less than 10 acres. Of the 15,074 "documented lakes" in the state, 60% don’t even have a name. If we use Wisconsin’s lake database and apply the same 10-acre standard as Minnesota, Wisconsin has only 5,898 lakes.
Correction Notice: there are other states with more lakes. The statement at 0:26 was based on each state's own lake count, but their definitions of what constitutes a lake varies. So apologies about the oversight, Minnesota, we love you guys, you'll get a super bowl someday!
How could you forget to mention Lake Superior in the beginning also?
They won't get a super bowl, but they will get a DUI in La Crosse
LOL.... that was the perfect response. I love both states. Still; hopefully moving to wisconsin in the next year or two.
It's my understanding that Wisconsin had more lakes than Minnesota. But that may be because I live in Wisconsin. I once stumbled into a controversy by saying confidently that Cayuga Lake was bigger than Seneca. This sounds similar.
Wisconsin counts every bofy of water as lak3s, minnesota only counts actuallakes over 1o acres and they dont count swamps, other wise minnesotawould actuallybe over 18,000 lakes. @@snowmonster42
As a Wisconsinite, this is fantastic. I cant wait to see this series in its entireity
Thank you, I’m excited to make the rest - though it will be a little while until I’ll be able to get to the next one
Me too!!
@@placesofthepast You might want to edit this video. The part about Buttes des Morts is incorrect. That legend is just a legend. I worked on that site as an archaeology student and it's definitely not a massacre. They predate contact with the French and are likely the result of Old World diseases arriving before the people.
As a local Wisconsin history buff I absolutely loved this. Cant wait for part 2
me too,i love wisconsin history,im originaly from cassville,wi home of wisconsins first governer,cassville almost got nominated as a wisconsin capital
Belmont home town travel in USA Wi people ask where I from say 1st state capitol no one yet has answear
Me too!!
Hi cold void I’m trying to write an essay about a historical Wisconsin politician who displayed courage in his political acts. Do u have any recommendations?😊
It’s practically all lies though. At least he spelled Wisconsin right.
I’m happy part 2 will focus some on Northern Wisconsin. Very well done.
I love our Wisconsin
Always and Forever.
Great magazine too. Search for it..
hell yeah
We all seal friendship by feasting on beaver!
I am glad I am not the only one who giggled like a 12 year old at that.
LOL …
Because of our cooler climate some have been known to sport thick burly pelts.
Love this, waiting for the next part.
Fantastic and Beautifully Shot!
Wisconsin is just an amazing state.
Absolutely love it! Well done!
This is a realy well done history of Wisconsin. I enjoyed all your shots
Thanks!
Seeing Holy Hill make this video is amazing as a local to that unique place. Even if youre not religious it is 100% worth visiting for its history, architecture, and amazing sight seeing. On a clear day you can see the skyline of Milwaukee and just about the best fall color scenery. Wisconsin and the midwest are not a flyover states, thank you for helping show why.
Edit: my dentist is also a descendant of Governor Dodge.
Man! Your videos are amazing!! Keep up the great work, don’t stop!
Wisconsin, which originally spelled Ouiconsin by the French, is an Ojibwa word meaning “a great meeting of waters.”
On the very old French trading maps you can see it spelled that way. I didn't know it until a few years ago.
The Ouisconsin spelling was still being used on some maps in the 1830s
Another great video!
Very cool!
Fantastic video and very informative!
Thanks! Glad you appreciated it
So well done! I run a channel about Milwaukee real estate, which made me look into the history of the city - and I know how much work it took you to make this video! Well done, looking for part 2!
Thank you for the comment! It was a ton of work, but also fun
Fantastic! So well done, Bravo!
This is a fantastic video! Great footage and great info!
Been here my whole life and still learning new things. Very informative video.
I really appreciate the wisconsin history. The last time I learned about my own state was fifth grade
Such great drone shots. Awesome work!
Back in 1962 we had a excellent class taught by Mrs Clark..History of Wisconsin.
I hope your channel grows. This is very well done. On Wisconsin!!!
Grew up in Michigan , moved to Kenosha WI during my teen years and it was fantastic. The people are great and it was the first time I saw pots full of old style beer with brats in them. DELICIOUS 🤤
Great Documentary! Very informative! Thank you!
I just love Wisconsin
wisconsin is easily the best state. The Fox Valley is paradise, i would do anything to go back in time and see what it was like before cities
Fox Valley is paradise? Have you been north of 8?
As a French Canadian .. great read. Nicolet is my ancestor from his mariage with his wife from the Algonquin tribe near the Nipissing river.
Wow! I wonder how many generations back that is.
As You probably know,the names of many of our towns and cities testify to the French presence.❤
I'm French Canadian also. Trepanier. That's a French name
The lead mining part was really informative.
What an amazing thing you've produced here. bravo 👏
Lived in WI for 30 years and learned from your interesting video-thanks
Well done, Sir! You have a real talent for conveying the interesting. I hope you stick with it
Thank you very much
Good job. That was a well done piece.
The badger thing is news to me that's so cool!
Great video. As a Wisconsinite I think it is fun to hear how others pronounce names of Wisconsin. I do not mean for that to be disrespectful.
Oh I know what you mean
One can usually tell a native by the pronunciation their of😊
This is incredible. Thank you for this
I loved this! Thank you!
I think many people fail to realize just how beautiful this state is, and as a kid growing up in Milwaukee I used to be among them. I've often heard it referred to as "boring flyover country" or "flat farmland". I've traveled to a lot of places and the Driftless is still one of the most gorgeous areas I've ever seen.
Even the "flat farmland" really isn't. A rolling landscape whose main feature are the long mostly north south Drumlins.
More dates would really help flesh-out events.
Thanks for the observation, I’ll keep it in mind for next time.
My family lost their land north of Hayward to the wild river act! A bit salty still myself! Awesome video though!
So cool hearing about who our streets, schools, and towns are named after. I swear they didn’t teach us that when we were kids.
Wow. Just watched this series. Amazing footage, editing, and narration! Can’t wait to see more!
Thanks so much, I’m pumped to make more
Fantastic.
Driven on Doty street hundreds of times in Madison but never knew the historical meaning of that street name until I saw this. Very cool.
As a descendant of the first settlers of Madison, WI, it would be interesting to hear the history behind our state’s Capital!
The oldest house was not originally where they showed it. As a kid we would play near the first settlement. They moved it to Heritage Hill to make a park.
I’m surprised you only have 1.59K subscribers!
Nice job, liked and subscribed.
Tons of stuff in Eastern WI is named after Jean Nicolet. Businesses, parks, museums, etc.
Well done
We all have seen the Minnesota lake counters out in th rain! Who out there remembers this one.?
excellent video, very well done!
Excellent A+.
Excellent work on this!
Thanks for watching!
The first private residence in the world to be powered by hydroelectricity was the Heritage House in Appleton WI on the Fox River
Surprisingly no mention of attempts to built a series of locks & dams from the Wisconsin River to the Bay of Green Bay. Today Appleton is restoring the portion thru the Jewel of the Fox Valley
This is great filmmaking
Good info, bro. Thanks.
Best place in the world!
So were they talking about really big musky or really big sturgeon when they said there are “dangerous creatures in those waters” ?
Can you do a video on the "Toledo War" and it's effects on Wisconsin?
Love what you're doing---I would have the music much, much lower in the mix however. Do this and you won't regret it!
Thanks for the tip!
@@placesofthepast You're whole concept is great, and there is a hunger for this kind of often neglected regional American history, especially the midwest. An example of the music being too loud for me is 2:38-3:08. I only mention this because you got everything else going for you magnificently. Just subscribed...
@@SidLaw500 I think I liked the music so much, I tended to err on the side of emphasizing it. Plus, it sounded more balanced in the headphones I was using to edit, so thanks for the feedback.
@@placesofthepast The music is of the sweeping Hollywood soundtrack style which if too loud can misrepresent the feeling/scale of an informational or visual moment. In such an instance, my tendency is to turn the sound off and watch the subtitles. At any rate, enough of my opinion...all the best to you and your channel!
Would love to see you cover WI state parks!
I’d love to research the history of what their land was used for before their park days. I once somewhere saw a photo of Peninsula Park being used as sheep grazing land, and it looked just like Ireland
Well done, Andy!
Thanks!
I definitely would have appreciated some more time dedicated to the native American tribes that first settled Wisconsin and the history of their civilizations, but this was a great video
Thank you, and I get it. My focus on existing buildings makes that challenging.
i just love wisconsin histry
15,000 lakes and a couple big ones , Superior and Michigan .
Did you take your own drone shots?
Yes, it was a blast, too
Wow you skipped an important part about Blackhawk's war. And the US army.
No telling of history includes everything
Your story is quite whitewashed for several important historical factors - one being that an accurate historical accounting of what involved the Blackhawk group, clearly shaped the repercussions of later land sessions and broken treaties. You’re statement that . If you are going to relay a portion of history, tell the full story of that portion and how it affected all parties involved - especially if you’re attempting to tell a true story of wisconsin history. To state that ‘more Indians sold their territory and moved westward’, again this is quite whitewashed and untrue. Your “no telling of history includes everything”, well that just isn’t the case unless you wish to tell just one side of that story. What you tell is your own version of what you wish to express.
I'm waiting for somebody to do a geologic history of Wisconsin starting as far back as it can be pieced together. And that's likely 2.5BY back.
I’d love to see that too
It's kinda weird that you skipped over the Father of Wisconsin, but mentioned one of hia descendents offhand.
Great video! I'm surprised that there haven't been any Minnesotans disputing "most lakes" statement in the comments.
I'm Ho-chunk from Wisconsin. Incidentally, Minnesota counts their lakes only if they are 10 acres or more. Wisconsin has no minimum limits for their dnr count. If MN and WI both counted their lakes with no minimum, or both counted their lakes with a 10 acre minimum, MN would win either way. I still love this land, but that is just not factual.
Wisconsin calls it a lake if they get a large puddle in the culvers parking lot after a rain. MN has more actual lakes.
@@placesofthepast You might want to look up what truth means. Minnesota only counts bodies of water that are 10 acres or more as lakes, if they used the same classification as Wisconsin they would have a lot more claimed lakes.
I always seal my friendships by feasting on beaver.
That’s wise.
@@placesofthepast ❤️❤️❤️
@Tripplebeam To celebrate the New Year it's Beaver tartar
Way to put great visuals to text we’ve heard a lot over the years if you’ve lived in Wisconsin your whole life
PART TWO WHEN?!?!?!?
Early summer I think!
Grandpa’s family story stated that Milwaukee was built on marshes and swamps.
Goated
Only after Milwaukee annexed suburban Wauwatosa did it become the largest city
Is this the page admins real voice?
Yes
@@placesofthepast bro admino love your voice
My mom's side of the family is from Wisconsin
I worked with the excavation site on Buttes des Morts as an archaeology student and I can tell you it's not a massacre site that's just a local legend. The legend about the bodies piled up from the French war there is false. The remains predate the French-Meskwaki conflict and show signs of likely disease as a cause of death. If you stand on the location and look down over the lakes it's a nice view. I can't blame for thinking it's a nice site to have to put something as unfortunate as a mass grave.
Wow, very cool that you worked on the site! So is it possible that bodies were simply added to an existing burial mound? I only wonder if there is a way to harmonize the archaeological facts with the legend, which has been told for hundreds of years. Unless the story originated from a different (maybe much smaller) mound no longer known or in existence.
You forgot Lake Superior on our north border.
I didn’t forget, it wasn’t an exhaustive list of borders.
3:02 oh my, they feasted on beaver.
I love the history, good editing, and beautiful visuals. My suggestions to make this even better is to take the Indigenous view into account for a more nuanced approach. Looking forward to the next video!
Cant wait to move to wisconsin, do not like the state I live in now. I wish I could’ve seen what the state was like before colonization.
The Nicolet/ Chequamegon national forest gives a small glimpse of it. Unfortunately, we don't have any of our old growth timber remaining besides a few scattered trees now.
Let's give up on the number of lakes bit. Too many of these lakes would be considered ponds in Minnesota. And I am a 'Sconicie" born and bred.
Was any AI used?
On the video? No. Actually I might have attempted to consult Chat GPT for errors, but it doesn’t really know anything, and makes up facts when it feels like that’s what you want to hear.
Wisconsin has more water then Minnesota with all the rivers and chain of lakes But I hear Minnesota has more lakes
MN has more lakes if you use Wisconsin's definition of a lake
the Erie Canal is NO WHERE near Wisconsin. It's only 363 miles & originates in upstate NY
As a Minnesotan we have more lakes. Wisconsin DNR has a low standard for what they call a lake. 10+ sq acres in MN and whatever they feel like in WI
How epic can Wisconsin be, this is only 15 minutes long!
Asking for a Minnesota friend.
Never forget the purpose of Minnesota: to protect Iowa from Canada.
Grignon is French. It is pronounced Gree-No. Not Grig-Non
Most prisons too
world peace TRUMP vote ❤❤❤
You have done a wonderful job with this. However, the "battle" of Bad Axe was a massacre of mostly Women, children, and elderly.
Thank you for the compliment, and sadly yes about Bad Axe - I used the historical name that is on the markers, though there was certainly some fighting involved. Apparently Black Hawk tried to surrender a couple times, but some sources said the gesture was misunderstood. I wonder if it’s possible to determine how sincere the “misunderstanding” part was.
@@placesofthepast you are very welcome. And totally understand. I only live about 5miles as the crow flies from the park and marker.
@@justasimplecadjockey687 You're lucky, that's such a beautiful area!
"It has more lakes than any state but Alaska" wrong. Minnesota has more. Wisconsin only has more by THEIR metric of what is considered a lake.
Minnesota defines a lake as a body of water greater than 10 acres. That’s how it got the 11,482 number in its Public Waters Inventory.
Wisconsin defines a lake as, well, anything it feels like calling a lake. Thousands are less than 10 acres. Of the 15,074 "documented lakes" in the state, 60% don’t even have a name.
If we use Wisconsin’s lake database and apply the same 10-acre standard as Minnesota, Wisconsin has only 5,898 lakes.
Feasting on beaver 😳
Good stuff. Don’t be afraid to try it if you get the chance. It’s very red rich meat as you can imagine.
I’ve eaten my fair share of beaver in my day. Mostly hairless varieties. 🥴