How Jonny Greenwood was Influenced by Penderecki
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Jonny Greenwood is best know as the lead guitarist and keyboardist in Radiohead. But, increasingly, he is becoming know for both his stand-alone concert and film music, which are full of sounds drawn from his fascination with the work of the late Polish composer, Krzysztof Penderecki. In this video, I look at the sounds in Radiohead songs that can be directly linked back to the first time Greenwood hear Penderecki's music in college and I also look in depth at Jonny Greenwood's own concert work.
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FURTHER READING/RESEARCH
Timbral Aspects of Orchestration [Mathias Langfeldt]: www.duo.uio.no/handle/10852/5...
Jonny Greenwood Scores the Western: Music as Generic Subversion in There Will Be Blood: dalspace.library.dal.ca/handl...
FURTHER WATCHING
Jonny Greenwood & Krzysztof Penderecki - Talk about their collaboration: • Video
Paths Through The Labyrinth, a portrait of Krzysztof Penderecki: www.medici.tv/en/documentarie...
How Jonny saved the Ondes Martenot [David Bruce]: • How Jonny saved the On...
FURTHER LISTENING
Jonny Greenwood - Popcorn Superhet Receiver/48 Responses to Polymorphia: open.spotify.com/album/4DMWDL...
Jonny Greenwood - Smear: • Jonny Greenwood - Smear
0:00 Introduction - Greenwood and Penderecki
2:15 Greenwood and Radiohead
5:29 Greenwood's concert works
7:51 Popcorn Superhet Receiver
12:12 Bringing it all together
This video was made in collaboration with David Bennett Piano! Take a look at David's video analysing Radiohead's 'Karma Police' here: ua-cam.com/video/IgjmSoSmaoc/v-deo.html
Hello! As a Pole I'm very satisfied and astonished that Jonny compose such a very complex music inspired by classic music composed by Penderecki. Of course all of Radiohead music is very complex, comparing to the others famous rock bands. It reminds me by the way the music composed by Red Hot Chili Peppers band and this one created by John Frusciante (I mean his solo electronic music and this one created as Trickfinger project). I'm just curious if you could be inspired to make some material about this topic. Although his music is very different from RHCP one.
@@krzysztofkalinski2616 not sure it's fair to call rdhd more "complex" than other bands. prog rock for example is much more complex and virtuousic. complex doesn't mean good. imho what makes rdhd good is their ability to combine aspects of many music styles into the song format. similar to the beatles more than anything.
@@dbkarp Yes I'm not a musican so you must forgive me. 😱 Maybe I should use other words to appreciate their music.
The reason Jonny is so introverted and quiet is because all of his personality and soul goes into his arrangements
no, it's because he's too busy biting on actual geniuses
Great video! It was lovely to work with you!
Thanks David - it was great working with you too!
Thank you, David, it was a really interesting video, I learned a lot and helped me appreciate Jonny even more.
You make great videos
Somehow just seeing the title I knew you were going to have something to do with this
no
How he didn't win an Oscar for There Will be Blood is beyond me.
I think it was because he decided to include a piece of another album of his in the movie, "Convergence". But he totally deserves an Oscar for any of his film scores.
Phantom Thread too. And he was actually nominated for that one.
The Oscars don’t deserve Jonny Greenwood.
I got the impression it was a technicality since the score wasn't produced solely for the movie
That, The Master, Phantom Thread, You Were Never Really Here, and Spencer. All deserved winners.
Radiohead's "A Moon Shaped Pool" (2016) really saw Jonny flexing those string arrangements. The ending of "Ful Stop" features glissandi that are almost identical to a passage from "Polymorphia". "Tinker Tailor..." is pure Messiaen with those ondes guiding the orchestra. And "Burn The Witch" features violins played with guitar plectrums (a technique Jonny also used in "Popcorn Superhet Receiver", a decade earlier).
I really love the strings in Burn The Witch
one of my favorite radiohead albums, for this exact reason :D
turns out I'm more of a Johnny Greenwood fan than a radiohead
Jonny was the reason I gave Radiohead a shot because I really loved his work with PTA. Now I can safely say I love both equally. They are a fantastic band.
I love both, but i think Greenwood"s work is very different than Radiohead's work. It is more complex i think, and it conveys a catalog of emotions.
Same. Ever since listening to Bodysong, I knew how heavily Johnny was orchestrating the sounds of Radiohead, and those were the sounds that kept me coming back.
Yes i have outgrown radiohead but not jonny
I feel the same way about John Frusciante and the Red Hot Chili Peppers lol
I always loved Weird Fishes / Arpeggi because it turned the "boring" arpeggios I used to practice on the piano into something vibrant and textured, no wonder why!
Awsome. Johnny is most definitely genius. I love his almost childlike curiosity.
I cant believe the production quality and the depth of analysis that comes from your channel. the amount of time, effort and care for the craft is so deeply appreciated. thank you for the work that you do
Thank you so much Daryl. This means a huge amount to me. The videos do take a long time, but I love doing them and I’m so pleased your enjoying watching.
Pretty surprised you didn't mention Burn the Witch from AMSP! I think you can hear Penderecki's influence on this song quite well.
Amazing video!
influence is theft
The polyrhythm and and overlapping harmonies in Weird Fishes are certainly appreciated (it's one of Radiohead's most popular songs, I believe), but I don't know that we really state explicitly enough how cool it is that something as simple as having those two arpeggiated sequences played in different times (triplets vs. quarter notes) creates such a fluid sound. As if the driving harmony behind the song is bouncing around on the waves of the ocean.
It's a concept the band explored further in the looped samples of Bloom (especially in that orchestral arrangement they did for BBC, but also comes to the forefront on all sorts of live takes of the song, like Thom's solo piano version we can find on youtube), and its absolutely fascinating. It puts me in a trance not unlike some shoegazing kind of music, but with a more natural, organic feel.
But then on Weird Fishes, Jonny does that absolutely bonkers looped-and-played-backwards solo in the coda... and oh wow, I can only imagine how someone comes up with that part. It's genius.
awesome text man, really made me think a lot about what it is been done inside that music.
I came based on David Bennett Piano's recommendation. Excellent!
Excellent - welcome!
THIS VIDEO IS GOLD.
Extraordinary. Ten years I hosted a modern classical show, but I never came close to this kind of insight into the connection between Penderecki and Johnny Greenwood. Excellent. I am in debt to the producer for enriching my appreciation.
You could place Jonny into any band and he would completely transform it. His contributions are invaluable, Radiohead are so lucky to have him.
omg the title alone pulled me in
How can anyone not click on a video about both Radiohead and Penderecki?
Incredible. Thank you for this. Greenwood is the reason I’m in music school now.
NIN and Radiohead are some of my favorite artists, it's no surprise they're having a film scoring career on the side... Great video! Thanx!!!!👍🏻
It is also quite interesting to see Jonny find new ways to produce different sounds from the instruments he plays live with Radiohead. e.g. the way he uses a string bow to play the guitar when they perform Pyramid song live.
One interesting thing about this is it's the case of seperate influences merging because a lot these ideas are also present in a lot of 80s indie rock, especially Sonic Youth (Who've been cited as an influence by Radiohead multiple times and are also heavily influenced by Penderecki), you can find it in basically all the interludes of Bad Moon Rising, expressway to yr skull and Silver Rocket
wow, this essay allowed me to distinguish Greenwood's influence on Radiohead's sound much more than I expected, the pizzicato sounds soooo similar to 'Burn the Witch' and the similarity is not an accident, great vid!
This was so satisfying and begs closer attention and exploration
I know the Oscars aren't really a measurement of the quality of an artist's work and Jonny certainly doesn't need one BUT. I lowkey wish the Academy would stop snubbing his scores all the time. Yeah, There Will Be Blood wasn't eligible because of technical criteria but its exclusion left a bitter taste in many people's mouths. And as much as I liked Desplat's score for The Shape of Water, Phantom Thread was just something else!
I've been listening the score from Phantom Thread for a while now. And it is without a doubt my favourite. Last night I watched The Master for the first time and again his music transports me into that world and characters mind. I love You Were Never Really Here Score too. I think that he is an artist with great passion. I want to hear right now his soundtrack for the upcoming "Spencer". And if some day Paul Thomas Anderson decides to make a horror film, well, Greenwood could be awesome un that way.
And the Oscars are a joke by now. I can feel what you say.
@@THE.N1KO The Master is so beautifully done all around. That film is a masterwork. One of the few films where I immediately went on to hunt down a vinyl of the score.
Do you happen to know the technical criteria it violated?
@@jackallenproductions I don't know that. Tell me more. And yeah, even today I listened some songs from the Phantom Thread score. I have experienced a lot of shocking things these times and I can say that his music save me in every way.
From a huge Radiohead and Jonny Greenwood fan : THANK YOU SO MUCH ! This is the best video i've ever seen about Jonny's music. Man, congratulations, your video just blew me away. You have really impressive editing skills ! You've got a new subscriber and a new fan from France. Peace and keep "Radioheading" the world :) Lio
MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS KIND OF MUSIC
From the time I first heard Blow Out, I was hooked. I love those explosions of sound. He carried it right through to this year's Under Our Pillows. So great to immerse yourself into in a live show.
Hmm, I always thought the dissonant drone in How To Disappear was inspired by Scott Walker's "It's Raining Today". Interesting!
I’m blown away by your wonderful analysis. I knew he was good, but this is a whole new level of appreciation for a musical master.
Jonny Greenwood’s film scores feel like the warmest hug
13:48 I would love more videos on Jonny Greenwood! Your videos are second to none when it comes to this kind of analysis
Listening in - David Bennet - Middle 8
The Radiohead Trios🔥
Thanks. Im going to check out Middle 8.👍
Middle 8 only talks about indie rock/pop overrated music.
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@@arturobelano6243 I wonder why i forgot to mention him. Thank you. There is also another one doing covers and tutorial of RH songs on acoustic guitar.
@@arturobelano6243 WARRENMUSIC. He is amazing.
Great video! I must add the outro of Blow Out is mainly Ed O’Brien, at least live it is.
Brilliant 🤩 thank you 🙏
penderecki was such a great composer. threnody for the victims of Hiroshima was a life changing listen.
also his dissonant string section on frank ocean's "seigfreid" !!
hes trying to hold the power of his brain inside his head, everyday a struggle for Jonny Greenwood
in researching for an essay on dissonance, Penderecki has been very interesting
super cool to see him here!
Wow. Just wow.
Genius everywhere you look. Many thanks for this.
Eye opening and maybe it explains my attraction to his music and the subliminal nature that keeps pulling at me....the sound of nature.
THIS is entirely the reason for UA-cam... I am eternally grateful for your content. So informative.... Thank you sir!
There's also a lot of Bartok in "There Will Be Blood" Such a seminal work of film scoring, cannot wait to see what else he develops for score/concert hall over the coming years
This is one of the best videos I have seen in a very long time.
There's a French band called Elend. Their work definitely absorbed Penderecki influence, especially in their second trilogy the Wind Cycle. It's a dark and mysterious journey listening to their music.
I'm going to definitely check them out
That was great! Thank you much, you inspired me to look into Penderecki when I’ll be finishing my first feature ☺️
Woah, that quarter of an hour really flew on by ;). I thought it would feel longer because the subject matter is so detailed and deep but it was thoroughly entertaining while also being very informative. Thank you so much :). As a side-note I feel a desire to know more about the very details about how Radiohead operate internally. It's collaborative, but I feel like I want to know what parts typically come from what source... if there is such a simple division to be made... I always knew that Jonny was experimental and liked to play with electronics but I feel like there is so much to learn about how the group dynamics influence the end result.
This is so well executed! Jonny Greenwood is, of course, absolutely a pleasure to listen to but I'd like to take a minute to thank you for this video.
Fascinating and inspiring (in altogether different medium) - thank you.
it's impossible not to admire Jonny Greenwood
This is an incredible video essay, well done, absolutely well done. It flows so well and has a coherent and rational thesis which is supported very nicely. Cheers. Grats on the collab with David, it brought me here.
Tank you so much for this wonderful analysis! It will be a great pleasure to discover the rest of your work!
this video brought a tear to my eye. beautiful work. thank you.
This was very well done & enlightening, thank you so much for putting these pieces together!
Thank you so much, really enjoyed this video.
Awesome video!! Thank you for it!
In love with this video. Thank you for sharing. And thank you David for suggesting 👌🏻
Man i love your videos it makes me so much happier thank you
Excellent video!! As a hardcore Jonny Greenwood fan, I really appreciate this. Still I have to say, I was waiting for Horror Vacui, but I get it might have been redundant to talk about it after all your amazing analysis of his previous work.
Very enjoyable and informative video, thank you kindly. Inspires me to further explore all these various influences and learn more about music.
Dude you are so good. Every single video is riveting.
Here from @David Bennett Piano . WOW 🙌.
Thank you & cheers from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦🎼🎶
Amazing video.
fantastic as ever - love your longer videos and that your channel is really starting to grow! I was in Poland for the Penderecki x Greenwood set at Open'er festival and the atmosphere created by their pieces performed sequentially combined with the huge space and fog was really something else! Thank you for reminding me
This channel is easily becoming one of my favorite channels in such a short time... Each video you upload sparks my enthusiasm incredibly! Thanks so much for your immense effort!
Man that was a superb video. Thanks.
Oh god what a fantastic video!
Such a great video! Thank you!!
This was really cool. Thanks for introducing me to this music - I’d never heard it before (except for all the Radiohead stuff, of course!) Well done. Keep up the great work!
Excellent video: thanks! It's so cheering to see this lively dialog between different streams in music! Another example but in the reverse direction can be heard in Fausto Romitelli's beautiful music.
This was such an excellent video
You guys - including David - do amaziiing things. So very interesting and such deep insights.....
Thank you this was wonderful.
I don't know why but Penderecki's music makes me calm and helps me sleep easier
Same. It is eerie yet somehow familiar, as if it resonated with a hidden part of the brain. As if it was the result of a dream
at one point i genuinely thought you and David Bennett were one and the same so thanks for clearing that up
this is the first time i have ever heard jonnys voice
Wonderful video! Wish I had more friends I could share this with, you clearly know what you’re talking about and it was a great watch.
Thank you! Well even if you share it with one friend, that would be lovely.
Love Greenwood
Brilliant video. Wouldn't be surprised to see your channel with million(s) of subscribers if you keep this up. I've been listening to Radiohead since OK Computer (wow, has it really been 24 years!?) and I learned so much in just 15 minutes by watching your video. Thanks!
Amazing video. Thanks for this :)
If you could I'd love to see more videos on Radiohead. Loved your last video on Radiohead . Indeed morrreeeee XD
Excellent, as always.
So interesting. Thanks so much!
Fantastic Video. Inspiring!!
Oh Boy, looks like I have a new channel to binge!
Totally fascinating. Thank you!
I love the Radiohead content! Keep it up with this amazing production quality and you'll be big time very soon.
lovely work!
David sent me 😏 An excellent analysis of Greenwood's work and I was pleased to see you tied references back also to Radiohead's music.
my dad’s orchestra was conducted by penderecki in the 90’s. interesting man!
And thanks for this wonderful essay! Also dope af
What the hell why does this have no views? This is fantastic.
Great video! He is doing amazing music for film 💜
My favorite is Proven lands yet until I hear sandy necklace in you were never really here... that one just beautiful and hunting at the same time
Please do a video on Scott Walker’s later work. Greenwood’s solo stuff reminds me of it a lot.
Great video, thank you. I am already familiar with Bennett's works, but you got a new subscriber now.
Great video👍🏻 thank you
🔥 Thank you as a fan 🔥
utterly wonderful
Thank you Paul!
David Bennett sent me. Great video. Subscribed!
I've been at that Penderecki's concert at Open'er. There was fog everywhere, clouding the festival space, it was unearthly. Avantgarde music at a pop-rock festival, amazing experience.