You know, I was sceptical of this ambitious cross-over when it was announced, but now that I've seen this masterpiece... the director did a really good job blending the two fandoms :D
just finished my first day at a new job. had a great day indeed. good dinner. and finally I get tucked in to bed and what do I know but a new jingles video has just been released. splendid indeed.
I noticed that too. While the Lepanto's death ride was a fairly foolish move, and he could have done something else to better help his team. He did take a big chunk of health off the Stalingrad which allowed the sub to easily kill it soon after. So while not the best move still wasn't entirely useless.
Just wanted to say thank you Jingles. I had a moment last night where my team went from win to win more and as the only destroyer I recognized the atttempt and stayed alive to avoid a throw thanks to your public service vidoes.
I got anxiety from watching him shoot Preussen, then fudge around with torps to check moving directions. With Mino reload speed you gimp you damage output by doing that, he lost several salvos worth of damage.
Thunderer can actually citadel minotaur with its it's 114mm of HE pen. But the 457 AP often just overpens though has much better damage when getting those citadels.
Damn you, Jingles. Thanks to you, i played this game when it was in beta, then i took a few years break and now again -thanks to your videos, im hooked on this game again!
It's one of those "almost great" games. It seems like any day WG will fall over in the right direction and fix a bunch of glaring issues, but they never quite seem to do it.
2:56 The improved pen on Minotaur's/All of the British light Cruisers basically makes them more effective than if they had HE, as they end up dealing far more damage. I've been able to test this first hand by not only going up the British light Cruisers, but also the American Lights to T10. The best way to put this is, Fiji is still effective against T9 ships, Helena can't pen the deck of most T8+ Cruisers. Minotaur has some of the best applied damage of any T10 Cruiser in the game, honestly even just one of the best paper DPMs as well, purely because of her AP being so good. When everyone was bitching about Smol, I was always pointing out Minotaur as an actual problem.
Thing is, though: Mino has problems of its own. Let's start with that citadel that can be seen from space and the fact that it's made out of explodium... Smolensk only has these problems if it's up against a heavy cruiser, and even then it handles well enough and has a smoke screen.
@@dextercochran4916 Difference is Minotaur hurts you, Smolensk just lights you on fire and saturates your superstructure effectively reducing other damage sources. My Republique is afraid of Minotaur, it ignores Smolensk.
Thoroughly entertaining as usual. Bonus points for expert use of my favourite ship. Chorizo might be a very good doggy but Minotaur is a very good ship. In the right hands (I.e. not mine) she can be an exceptional ship.
In the enemy team's defence, not much hiding you can do faced with a Shima and a Sub. But sure, they could have retreated back and just tried to defend B and if they were all in a div together on voice coms that's probably what they would have done.
I had a game yesterday in my Harekaze II where I was really trying to carry my team to victory, even against all odds... but my last remaining "teammate" in a Veneto (with a lot of health) was being about as useless as he could be. Instead of helping me, instead he decided to rush into a bunch of enemies, and get himself killed in the process. And here I'm like: "Why do I never succeed in these carries?" I ended the game with 6 kills and 1.9k base XP... in a loss... I just don't know what to do anymore.
A 30% of games you lose no mattet what. Another 30% of games you win no matter what. The last 40% defines your WR and show how good of a player you are
I remember a similar experience where a friendly cruiser rushed headlong at the rest of the enemy team & got himself killed leaving. So I was left facing 4 enemy ships on my own, with no way to win on points. But I don't like fair fights. What makes it only "similar" was that his idiocy gifted me a Solo Warrior - I killed every single one of them & the replay is somewhere on UA-cam. I'll have to find it later.
While I do so love these types of videos from Jingles, at this point even making comments on what mutants like these do is a moot point. It’s like “The Chung Mu was hydroed by a Mino charging towards him and his guns were pointing the wrong way and he didn’t even launch torpedos?? Makes sense.”. The world is so effed.
I's honestly depressing, considering the community *loves* battlecruisers (between Battleship & cruisers) and they also appreciate light cruisers (between destroyers and cruisers) but instead of doing the Obvious and smart thing in adding official lines&traits for those 'classes', as in for example "light cruisers only take partial citadel damage" and "Battlecruisers have longer fires" they went with "we need Carriers and Submaries."
The sub had an impact with its spotting and the uncounterable threat- pushing the enemy team in the direction of suicide at the end. Subs cause people to have to drive into undesirable situations due to shotgun torps at any given moment
I was in the Chung Mu in the enemy Div. and that was my radar that he got hit by. My div. mate was in the F.D.G.. I love to send in the replay from the other side. And I was looking for the Lepantp and I got hung up on the island. my bad l0l. The other team chat was very spicy...
I like hearing the bit of echo from your recording space. Reminds me you've moved. I'm not sure what you could do to reduce that without potentially destructive post audio processing, or an echo pre-filter sampling from the room to eliminate it being 'captured' by the mic. Like how you can use your smartphone to talk with someone using headphones with a mic, that can reduce/eliminate the background noise. Brilliant commentary as always.
Next thing you know, Bruce Willis will be the voice actor for American commanders. Jingles will be on one team in a brit boat, Willis the other with an American one. Then Tom Hanks will produce / star in the movie about it Edit: CMD John MacLaine, gimmick ability: gain a 75% reload speed for one turret and +75% chance to have propulsion or rudder incapacitated when no allied ships are within detection range. You'll get to snap shot first, but you're still doing it barefoot.
Yup, the ships which should be most effective against subs, destroyers, are the least effective. A real convoy mode with like 20 transports, 3 or 4 escorts vs. 4 or 5 subs would be really fun an challenging.
It's mostly because of homing torpedoes and the fact that suvs can broadcast the DD's position while he's being chased down. Do something about that, and you have a serviceable sub-killer, especially if you nerf their depth charge cool down or explore more proactive ASW weapons like hedgehogs.
“Hammer every square peg into the round hole” Hmm, sounds like jingles needs to see the video on what shape goes in what hole. Its always the round hole
World war II, ya know, when Battleships were providing anti-aircraft and anti-submarine support for convoys because their AA and anti-sub capabilities were unmatched by any class. What? Destroyers? oh hell no, those things couldn't sink a sub or shoot a plane down to save their life, world of warships taught me that!
I always wondered why Wargaming didn't just put 'Hedgehog' anti-sub mortar/explosive type weapons systems on battleships, they were used by the British in WW2 and have a decent range and were quite effective. Instead they have some weird magic squadron thing...
To be fair to the Thunderer, the HE had a higher chance of deleting a broadside Mino than the AP would, because at that range, Thunderers AP would have most likely overpenned, while HE, if aimed correctly, would have citadeled him easily (exposed citadel with 101mm of armor VS 114mm of thunderer HE pen).
In terms of stealth the Mino is contested by the new Pan Asian light cruiser line. Although Mino is still top of the bunch with the Plymoth being close second.
i see these people all the time when i played WoT or WT , where they are at disadvantage , are losing , and think "ill expose myself to risk it for a kill" , i alweys sat there , takes 5-10 seconds for that panic to set in
Despite an enemy team throwing harder than humanly possible we've seen some actually pretty good teamwork. Damn, who could've guessed that if you actually think and act like a real TEAM you'd be successful in a TEAM-game... *shrugs*
I uninstalled WOWS about 2 weeks ago, it has become more rage inducing than WOT ever could and its just not fun to play anymore, I still get some fun out of WOT, I just cant with WOWS anymore, than being said its still fun to watch a wows video when jingles is commenting!
I cant belive that even tho they spot the torps basically once the torps got launched til they hit em, they still somehow manage to not avoid em, while i staying hidden for 20 min and lauching torps basically not missing the mark whenever they are ready torps in all sorts of manners cant hit for shit
A pair of quick questions: 1. Has the 'Ise' made it out of the test servers, or was it dropped as a bad idea? 2. Does anyone think that WG is planning on springing the 'Surcouf' on the player base? Big fat submarine with a cruiser's guns . . .
I remeber jingles saying that he doesn't show battleship games because they were boring, i don't desagree, but i rather watch battleships than "smoke" games.
Yesterday same idiocy over here: my team got 3 of 4 caps after 5 minutes, only 1 ship per team down. All we had to do was back up a little and let enemy make the mistakes. But gues who had to continue pushing into crossfire and die one by one and throw the game? It was a T9-7 match btw...
This is Throw Hard, the Collab Special between Try Hard and A Game of Throws
You know, I was sceptical of this ambitious cross-over when it was announced, but now that I've seen this masterpiece... the director did a really good job blending the two fandoms :D
Throw Hard: A Game of Tries.....
I'm the Shimakaze in division with Ramison, thanks so much for featuring us! This was a joy to watch!
Great job to you and your div mate! Credits to the sub as well.
@@AnnihilateUTM thank you! o7
just finished my first day at a new job. had a great day indeed. good dinner. and finally I get tucked in to bed and what do I know but a new jingles video has just been released. splendid indeed.
Congrats on the new job. May it continue to be good.
Seconded
Nice brother. Here's to many more days like that
3:04 AKCHUALY Jingles the Minotaur came first so the Daring has Minotaur torpedos not the other way around
Thats proper actually
14:03 - "The only good thing he's doing..." Stalingrad health bar disappears....=)
I noticed that too. While the Lepanto's death ride was a fairly foolish move, and he could have done something else to better help his team. He did take a big chunk of health off the Stalingrad which allowed the sub to easily kill it soon after. So while not the best move still wasn't entirely useless.
"Get 1000 ribbons for reward" - one game in Minotaur - "That ought to do it..."
My favorite mission. Run mino, follow it up with a sherman if you like. Mission accomplished
😂
Just wanted to say thank you Jingles. I had a moment last night where my team went from win to win more and as the only destroyer I recognized the atttempt and stayed alive to avoid a throw thanks to your public service vidoes.
I got anxiety from watching him shoot Preussen, then fudge around with torps to check moving directions. With Mino reload speed you gimp you damage output by doing that, he lost several salvos worth of damage.
Yo! I'm the Mino! TY for the feature!!!
They weren’t thinking, they were reacting, an ameba can react. Thinking requires intelligence.
*amoeba
Before writing on intelligence, check what you write.
@@RamdomGuy1337 what ever
@@geoffreyrichardson8738 it’s “whatever” 🤣
So does being able to spell "amoeba" correctly. Stop trying to use words (and lifeforms) that are obviously smarter than you are.
Thunderer can actually citadel minotaur with its it's 114mm of HE pen.
But the 457 AP often just overpens though has much better damage when getting those citadels.
Can confirm, have citted many minos at point blank range with HE
Damn you, Jingles. Thanks to you, i played this game when it was in beta, then i took a few years break and now again -thanks to your videos, im hooked on this game again!
Welcome back cotter! 🤪😂
It's one of those "almost great" games. It seems like any day WG will fall over in the right direction and fix a bunch of glaring issues, but they never quite seem to do it.
@@dextercochran4916 An "almost great game" or any kind of game for that matter has nothing to do with WG. Only the players involved...
2:56 The improved pen on Minotaur's/All of the British light Cruisers basically makes them more effective than if they had HE, as they end up dealing far more damage. I've been able to test this first hand by not only going up the British light Cruisers, but also the American Lights to T10. The best way to put this is, Fiji is still effective against T9 ships, Helena can't pen the deck of most T8+ Cruisers.
Minotaur has some of the best applied damage of any T10 Cruiser in the game, honestly even just one of the best paper DPMs as well, purely because of her AP being so good. When everyone was bitching about Smol, I was always pointing out Minotaur as an actual problem.
yes. that continuous avalanche of pain.
Thing is, though: Mino has problems of its own. Let's start with that citadel that can be seen from space and the fact that it's made out of explodium...
Smolensk only has these problems if it's up against a heavy cruiser, and even then it handles well enough and has a smoke screen.
@@dextercochran4916 Difference is Minotaur hurts you, Smolensk just lights you on fire and saturates your superstructure effectively reducing other damage sources.
My Republique is afraid of Minotaur, it ignores Smolensk.
Thoroughly entertaining as usual. Bonus points for expert use of my favourite ship. Chorizo might be a very good doggy but Minotaur is a very good ship. In the right hands (I.e. not mine) she can be an exceptional ship.
In the enemy team's defence, not much hiding you can do faced with a Shima and a Sub. But sure, they could have retreated back and just tried to defend B and if they were all in a div together on voice coms that's probably what they would have done.
They could have also not come around a corner one at a time, broadside on to a Minotaur’s guns and torps.
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Nope they shouldn't have. Once the Stalin died that push was never really on.
Morning Jingles and fellow salt miners
Seems that German hydro is always a total surprise to this Minotaur.
Nobody expects the German Hydrophone
There is never enough Dakka-Dakka.
more Dakka-Dakka vids like this please.
I was trying to imagine what the loaders looked like, keeping up that rate of fire! =@[.]@=
I had a game yesterday in my Harekaze II where I was really trying to carry my team to victory, even against all odds... but my last remaining "teammate" in a Veneto (with a lot of health) was being about as useless as he could be. Instead of helping me, instead he decided to rush into a bunch of enemies, and get himself killed in the process. And here I'm like: "Why do I never succeed in these carries?"
I ended the game with 6 kills and 1.9k base XP... in a loss... I just don't know what to do anymore.
A 30% of games you lose no mattet what. Another 30% of games you win no matter what. The last 40% defines your WR and show how good of a player you are
I remember a similar experience where a friendly cruiser rushed headlong at the rest of the enemy team & got himself killed leaving. So I was left facing 4 enemy ships on my own, with no way to win on points.
But I don't like fair fights.
What makes it only "similar" was that his idiocy gifted me a Solo Warrior - I killed every single one of them & the replay is somewhere on UA-cam. I'll have to find it later.
My Captain Jingles is nearing his 21. Skillpoint on the Minotaur :)
I'm surprised jingles didn't say anything about the message in chat. You have to know what a crumpet is to understand cricket. Loved it haha
Mister Jingles sir... with utmost respect, the first "standout" on this ship should always be it's name.
Ramison, fantastic match.
I love these, I literally come home and hope Jingles uploads another WOWS video.
hammering square pegs into every available round hole sounds like a title on a phub video.
While I do so love these types of videos from Jingles, at this point even making comments on what mutants like these do is a moot point. It’s like “The Chung Mu was hydroed by a Mino charging towards him and his guns were pointing the wrong way and he didn’t even launch torpedos?? Makes sense.”. The world is so effed.
WoWs - Throw Hard
by
Rear Admiral Giggles
Rear Admiral Babbles
Rear Admiral Contradicts Ones Self
Good vid.
I's honestly depressing, considering the community *loves* battlecruisers (between Battleship & cruisers) and they also appreciate light cruisers (between destroyers and cruisers) but instead of doing the Obvious and smart thing in adding official lines&traits for those 'classes', as in for example "light cruisers only take partial citadel damage" and "Battlecruisers have longer fires" they went with "we need Carriers and Submaries."
The sub had an impact with its spotting and the uncounterable threat- pushing the enemy team in the direction of suicide at the end. Subs cause people to have to drive into undesirable situations due to shotgun torps at any given moment
I was in the Chung Mu in the enemy Div. and that was my radar that he got hit by. My div. mate was in the F.D.G.. I love to send in the replay from the other side. And I was looking for the Lepantp and I got hung up on the island. my bad l0l. The other team chat was very spicy...
Mino having depthcharges that need dropping off the back is ridiculous... amazing mino game,
You could hire Ramison for your next big stuff moving with that back on him !!!
I've gotten hundreds of citidels in Thunderer firing HE at minotaurs and smolensks. Anything with better armor I'd switch to APs.
Perhaps a new level.... "Throw Harder!" ?? You know for those special potatoes!
I resemble that remark.
My name is Steve and I have a Jingles addiction.
Is it just me or does our Great Mighty Overlord seem very chippa ? Oh well back to salt mines for a triple shift for such insolence.
827 shells.. those barrels probably took a month or 2 to cool down from that
Probably no barrels left.....
Another great Minotaur game ! Very well played!
I saw Flamu's video about ping changes, and holy crap it was disheartening. Also, amazing ship handling and a help from Shima to spot the targets ;p
I like how WG devs apparently arbitrarily decided that hydrophone sets can't detect submerged subs
Why knot?
Makes as much sense as radar being able to see through land masses as if they weren't there.
I like hearing the bit of echo from your recording space. Reminds me you've moved. I'm not sure what you could do to reduce that without potentially destructive post audio processing, or an echo pre-filter sampling from the room to eliminate it being 'captured' by the mic. Like how you can use your smartphone to talk with someone using headphones with a mic, that can reduce/eliminate the background noise. Brilliant commentary as always.
Next thing you know, Bruce Willis will be the voice actor for American commanders. Jingles will be on one team in a brit boat, Willis the other with an American one.
Then Tom Hanks will produce / star in the movie about it
Edit: CMD John MacLaine, gimmick ability: gain a 75% reload speed for one turret and +75% chance to have propulsion or rudder incapacitated when no allied ships are within detection range.
You'll get to snap shot first, but you're still doing it barefoot.
And in my best jingles voice " oh dear oh dear oh dear"
Also at 15:45 Thunderer HE can actually citadell a Mino if I am not mistaken.
Thanks Jingles
Good synergy with the team.
Thanks Jingles.
“Gotta know what a CRUMPET is to understand CRICKET” 😂😂😂 respect to the og live action ninja turtles movie! 1:03 in chat
Enjoyed the show Jingles!!
Great review!
That Hipper overturning and eating that torp almost made me punch my monitor xD
He got a pants-on-head moment by getting crossfired by a gunfighting Shima on his flank.
Looks like the Shima was paired up, so ya no wonder why they where working as a team together....Oh Jingles please don't ever change... LOL
Title suggestion: "Try Hardly." It also works as "Try, Hardly."
Yup, the ships which should be most effective against subs, destroyers, are the least effective. A real convoy mode with like 20 transports, 3 or 4 escorts vs. 4 or 5 subs would be really fun an challenging.
It's mostly because of homing torpedoes and the fact that suvs can broadcast the DD's position while he's being chased down. Do something about that, and you have a serviceable sub-killer, especially if you nerf their depth charge cool down or explore more proactive ASW weapons like hedgehogs.
“Hammer every square peg into the round hole”
Hmm, sounds like jingles needs to see the video on what shape goes in what hole.
Its always the round hole
Don't mess with a well positioned Mino... brutal fire and great torp angles too.
Thank you great video replay
13:59 Lepanto slaps the shit out of the Stalingrad. Might not be smart, but it chunked him down to like 10%.
This guy worked his rear off!
Sorry to tell you Jingles, Thunderer can citadel Minotaur with its HE, the Mino lived because the Thunderers aim was bad and hit behind the rear guns.
Turtles reference in early game chat for the win lol
Gotta be honest. . .I wasn't sure which team was gonna throw this. They were both doing their damnedest to snap defeat from the jaws of victory.
World war II, ya know, when Battleships were providing anti-aircraft and anti-submarine support for convoys because their AA and anti-sub capabilities were unmatched by any class. What? Destroyers? oh hell no, those things couldn't sink a sub or shoot a plane down to save their life, world of warships taught me that!
0:54 Well, maybe Wargaming is just basing submarine mechanics on the encounter between HMS Dreadnought and the U-29. 🤣🤣
Yeah, I think you nailed the title.
I always wondered why Wargaming didn't just put 'Hedgehog' anti-sub mortar/explosive type weapons systems on battleships, they were used by the British in WW2 and have a decent range and were quite effective. Instead they have some weird magic squadron thing...
Can I just say, Hipper is a amazing cruiser, even in T10 battles. If you know how to use it it can be devastating.
Ahhh jingles. Aircraft carriers hurt this game so bad. Submarines have utterly killed it….
The battleships have expended their WHAT?!?
ACHKSTUALLY Jingles.. If the thunderer had fired AP. It would have overpenned.
HE can citadel Minotaur and other light cruisers like Austin.
To be fair to the Thunderer, the HE had a higher chance of deleting a broadside Mino than the AP would, because at that range, Thunderers AP would have most likely overpenned, while HE, if aimed correctly, would have citadeled him easily (exposed citadel with 101mm of armor VS 114mm of thunderer HE pen).
A very close game to watch
In terms of stealth the Mino is contested by the new Pan Asian light cruiser line. Although Mino is still top of the bunch with the Plymoth being close second.
Looking forward to throw hard 2: THROW HARDER
i see these people all the time when i played WoT or WT , where they are at disadvantage , are losing , and think "ill expose myself to risk it for a kill" , i alweys sat there , takes 5-10 seconds for that panic to set in
If only the Petropavlosk had torpedoes.
Minotaur AP?
* laughs in Kremlin *
Very nice video.
Beautiful game
I have a title recommendation: Game of throw harder, season 1 episode 1, a jingleflix original.
Actually, a Thunderer at that range can cit a mino with HE, and would have overpenned if he used AP. HE was actually the correct ammo type there.
Very epic!
Despite an enemy team throwing harder than humanly possible we've seen some actually pretty good teamwork.
Damn, who could've guessed that if you actually think and act like a real TEAM you'd be successful in a TEAM-game... *shrugs*
Audio is pretty much back to normal
Yet again, another minatour, this ship is pain.
I uninstalled WOWS about 2 weeks ago, it has become more rage inducing than WOT ever could and its just not fun to play anymore, I still get some fun out of WOT, I just cant with WOWS anymore, than being said its still fun to watch a wows video when jingles is commenting!
I cant belive that even tho they spot the torps basically once the torps got launched til they hit em, they still somehow manage to not avoid em, while i staying hidden for 20 min and lauching torps basically not missing the mark whenever they are ready torps in all sorts of manners cant hit for shit
EPIC GAME!! GG boys!
A pair of quick questions:
1. Has the 'Ise' made it out of the test servers, or was it dropped as a bad idea?
2. Does anyone think that WG is planning on springing the 'Surcouf' on the player base? Big fat submarine with a cruiser's guns . . .
This man needs a back massage.
No random, no balance and a bias matchmaker.
Morning from the Dutch Salt flats.
I remeber jingles saying that he doesn't show battleship games because they were boring, i don't desagree, but i rather watch battleships than "smoke" games.
If you play this ship like this in legends your dead already
the high explosive on the thunderer can still delete a mino, the belt is 101mm and the pen is like 117mm
World of Throwships
GJ to that div. I only play solo, no friends play the game. Would love to div up and make friends in the progress
Yesterday same idiocy over here: my team got 3 of 4 caps after 5 minutes, only 1 ship per team down. All we had to do was back up a little and let enemy make the mistakes. But gues who had to continue pushing into crossfire and die one by one and throw the game? It was a T9-7 match btw...
good video
So thunderer may have been hoping to slap shima with the he