It's absolutely amazing to still see the love, vexare was my first favorite artist in the dubstep genre, and 12-13 years later his music still hits, slaps, and inspires my teenage self. Sending love, out to everybody who's here to go back to a better time where things were easier and life was brighter, where friends were friends, where the sweetest moments passed in a blink without you even noticing. I love you, everybody here loves you, through these songs were connected, with that never forget, always remember, youre never alone, and with that I say goodbye for now friends Have an amazing Night🌙 Day🌞 whatever time it is enjoy present 🖤🌌
Goosebumps and chills all over me rn. Im 16 and im getting into dubstep recently, but not the heavy ultumate "the one" drop, but the unique style and creative personality that dubstep used to have, at least in my eyes. If you see me in the future, im D1SRUPT0R, and im going to reshape this genre.
31 years old ... been listening to dubstep since it came about , Vexare and alot of others that oaved the way for the dubstep generation . I listened to dubstep on UA-cam 13 hours a day just randomly pressing any tune to see if it was a masterpiece or a piece of $**t .... NEVER ONCE HEARD THIS !!! How did I miss this ?? So glad I pressed this wondering why i hadn't seen it before 🔥🔥saying OMG !! outloud while it was building up into the drop 🔥🔥🔥👌👌
Vexare is so underrated. have so many good songs like this one, still remaining, the clockmaker, aimless, just so many good songs. but no one pays attention to good dubstep nowadays.
Where have they gone? We need to find them. None of this new "HEAVY ALTRA BASS 2099 REMIX XXX GOOD 420 YOLO DUBSTEP SWAGGGGG" I was about to change Genres till I started re listening to the good old music. Like old Metal, the original thing is sometimes (If not all the time) Better then the new stuff.
I remember hearing this back in like 2012 and buzzing tfwout that vexare was only a kid making this sick racket... still banging in 2019 bruv much love from New Zealand!
You will one day just keep focus on doing and stop thinking so much wanna go make some money performing tricks on the street DO ITTT i am 22 and i am just stating to do stuff finally and to be true i am not much differnt in my mind set i may be stronger and more respected now but i miss the wonders of that age which i live sometimes :)
One of my all time favorites right here. This was my ringtone for years. About to make it my ringtone now. Hope you are well Vexare. My Man. Blessings to you. Love peace unity
This came out during my senior year of high school. Super fitting for my time and experience in high school. I revisit once in a while when I dig through my favorites. Thank you for the memories.
WHERE HAS ALL THE GOOD DUBSTEP GONE?!!!!!. I just listened to one of his newer song and then heard this. His new songs are alright, but this is amazing
Richard Smithe His new stuff is amazing, don't get me wrong. But I just liked some of his older stuff better. However, as you noted, many of his older songs were very repetitive.
+King James Thing I find interesting ... you have this classical/jazz pianist that makes pretty traditional edm at first. As time goes by, he incorporates more and more of his total musical background to create something that doesn't maybe even sound exactly like edm anymore. Ends up being something interesting and unique. I like that. The stuff he wrote at 14 (like this) is most similar to traditional electronic artists:)
I'm very happy with what he has recently done. Vanishing Point, Crickets in the Wind, Time Wizard, Or What. This old stuff is nice in a different way (analogous to the insightful, uninhibited truths of a child's observations). I find the contrast awesome. He really has become a splendid artist. He creates sounds more sophisticated than most edm artists imo.
One of my all time favourites, this just slaps so hard. Usually don't even listen to the genre but this has been on my playlists probably for a decade now
This is the 4th song of Vexare I'm listening to now, (just discovered) and I can see I won't stop till I've listened/found all his music. THIS IS REAL DUBSTEP, THIS IS TRULY AWESOME STUFF!!!
high scool girls i keep getting older amd they just stay the same but i remember chillen those long nights finding all the good dubstep i could miss those days
Holy shit, I'm going through my old favorites playlist from forever ago, and this shit I used to listen to when I played skate 3 back in the day. Holy fuck, I can't
his drops are not always the same you noobs.. he is just using a specific set of audio samples on most of his tracks... and besides.. last i checked there where only 8 notes in music.. and he still manages to make this original. youtube = haters, much.
Such RAW talent I shudder to think what Vexare will be capable of when he is older! Imagine, this song was made by him at the age of FOURTEEN and that alone speaks volumes of ones potential. Keep it up!
ImJustinKAY TELL THAT DUDE THANK YOU D'S UDBDHH By far in my opinion a masterpiece maker. Like Woah. He needs more songs like The Clockmaker, this one, Silent Majority, and etc. *-* Tell him pweeze
Holy shit dude, this song has gotten a lot of attention. The last time I was checking into Vexare's music they all head around 1000 views. Pretty proud of the kid for doing so well.
vexare is good because his dubstep actually has a tone vexare atleast adds parts of real music in his dubstep he will put piano and shit his dubstep you can also see a meaning in and he can actually make his dubstep sound sad other dubstep artist just make bull shit with robot voices yelling in the back round
Vexare plays with your suspense, he puts his drops much later into the song than say...skrillex, and his drops are almost complete opposite to the rest of the song, creating the perfect dubstep.
I had my headphones on today at school with this song on..Some kid tried talking to me. I slammed my hand straight into his face and next thing you know "YOU WOULDNT ME "WUBWUBWUB" Just as my hand connected with his face. Dude, Vexare, You make awesome music. Dont give up. You keep this shit UP. - All the Vexare fans
Faith in dem hatuz - Absolute zilch. Faith in the Internet - Armageddon can't come soon enough. Faith in Vexare - The God of Dubstep. The Eternal... One and only... The Godsteppist... The Vexare!
+how long can my name beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pollo
Voetsik Official To me the remarkable thing is that he's created a recognizable "Vexare sound" while using different melodies, chords and production sounds. I think it has more to do with how he composes his tracks:)
That's really the big thing, though. Most GOOD dubstep artists have a distinct sound to their drops, even if you notice it in ALL their songs. A drop is kinda like signing a piece of paper in cursive, y'know? Only YOU can do your cursive EXACTLY right.
Yeah you guys are right, but what i meant was that he could at least put a few more sounds in to make it more interesting. But still great. And btw thx for not the nice answers and no rage ;D
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It's absolutely amazing to still see the love, vexare was my first favorite artist in the dubstep genre, and 12-13 years later his music still hits, slaps, and inspires my teenage self.
Sending love, out to everybody who's here to go back to a better time where things were easier and life was brighter, where friends were friends, where the sweetest moments passed in a blink without you even noticing. I love you, everybody here loves you, through these songs were connected, with that never forget, always remember, youre never alone, and with that I say goodbye for now friends Have an amazing Night🌙 Day🌞 whatever time it is enjoy present 🖤🌌
This comment brought the biggest of smiles to my face you're spot on
I agree dude
Yup fucking wow
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Always loved this track and still do
You too dude, have a great night ! :D
Goosebumps and chills all over me rn. Im 16 and im getting into dubstep recently, but not the heavy ultumate "the one" drop, but the unique style and creative personality that dubstep used to have, at least in my eyes. If you see me in the future, im D1SRUPT0R, and im going to reshape this genre.
31 years old ... been listening to dubstep since it came about , Vexare and alot of others that oaved the way for the dubstep generation . I listened to dubstep on UA-cam 13 hours a day just randomly pressing any tune to see if it was a masterpiece or a piece of $**t .... NEVER ONCE HEARD THIS !!! How did I miss this ?? So glad I pressed this wondering why i hadn't seen it before 🔥🔥saying OMG !! outloud while it was building up into the drop 🔥🔥🔥👌👌
What's crazy is this dude was only 14 when he made this. Put out a bunch of really good songs back then. Staggering, really.
Vexare is so underrated. have so many good songs like this one, still remaining, the clockmaker, aimless, just so many good songs. but no one pays attention to good dubstep nowadays.
and also firing my lazer
+😈-Lilith-😈 I Love The Clockmaker ^^
Trust Me, Brother, I agree with You, and I pay proper respects to this Artist on my channel.
ua-cam.com/video/N-7JDe5tdJo/v-deo.html Check it out! :)
And now.. you're jamming to our favorite Ghostemane with respects to the classic Vexare
This kid has talent. I member I was 19 when this first came out and I’m listening to it on New Years day 2020
Still dope
Hello from the future... listening in 2021
He works for Roblox now
@@mightbethreeopossumsinatre513 wait for real?? Lol
@@mightbethreeopossumsinatre513 откуда инфа?
miss those days when dubsteps still this good...
Where have they gone? We need to find them. None of this new "HEAVY ALTRA BASS 2099 REMIX XXX GOOD 420 YOLO DUBSTEP SWAGGGGG" I was about to change Genres till I started re listening to the good old music. Like old Metal, the original thing is sometimes (If not all the time) Better then the new stuff.
We'll always respect classics, but there are still producers alive today that carry this amount of passion as well. It's never over until you say so.
how about now
@@SPACEHARICE how about now
@@LiMCRiMZ EXICISON, RIOT 10, BARELY ALIVE, JESSICA AUDRIFRED, VIRTUAL RIOT, SLANDER, 12TH PLANET, BRO AMAZING
if i passed you blulululululu lelelelellelele
omg
I feel u broe
loool
Josh Ward That profile pic is fascinating O.O!!!
Warlololock Well you just ruined the sing for me. xD Made me Giggle a little though!
I remember hearing this back in like 2012 and buzzing tfwout that vexare was only a kid making this sick racket... still banging in 2019 bruv much love from New Zealand!
I’m from NZ as well and i listened to the heck out of this when i was like 15 almost 30 now
woah i made these vids so long ago XD
Yeah I remember when you first posted these lol good classics for sure
It's on my brand new "Dubstep Classics" personal playlist. I'll never forget it.
this is still fire dude 2019
This has been one of my favorite songs no jk
I still love listening to these tracks!
I remember many years ago when i actually fell in love with a voice. This voice.
the melody, the vocals, the everything about this song is so perfect. nostalgia
Hes 14, and making badass music,
I'm 14, I can't even make anything other than ramen and cereal...
Max
he was 14 now he's an adult ;)
No shit, really? You became older and you didn't rewrite every single comment you wrote. >>Smile face but with wyr smile
You will one day just keep focus on doing and stop thinking so much wanna go make some money performing tricks on the street DO ITTT i am 22 and i am just stating to do stuff finally and to be true i am not much differnt in my mind set i may be stronger and more respected now but i miss the wonders of that age which i live sometimes :)
Eh, you just have undiscovered talent.
@@GreyPause Those comments were from the same year...
One of my all time favorites right here. This was my ringtone for years. About to make it my ringtone now. Hope you are well Vexare. My Man. Blessings to you. Love peace unity
this brings back so many memories
I am so nostalgic listening to this song...
Missing 2011 days...
🇧🇷 Representing Brazil!
acredita que esse mlk tinha 14 anos quando fazia esses sons? cacete
Caramba...
@@ruanpessoadosreis pica
Nossa senhora! Big tune, love from 🇳🇱
2024
My favorite track of him
I dunno why ...
And yet, not on spotify.. makes me sad.. /:
because when you listen to this while your high your guaranteed to space your fcking brains out lol
I never was high and I never will be. I'm sorry.
Kitty Soraki you become high from listening this end of discussion
sjaak hoek Not really.
This came out during my senior year of high school. Super fitting for my time and experience in high school. I revisit once in a while when I dig through my favorites. Thank you for the memories.
WHERE HAS ALL THE GOOD DUBSTEP GONE?!!!!!. I just listened to one of his newer song and then heard this. His new songs are alright, but this is amazing
+King James hmmm ... I like his new stuff better. Less repetition and more complex:)
Richard Smithe His new stuff is amazing, don't get me wrong. But I just liked some of his older stuff better. However, as you noted, many of his older songs were very repetitive.
+King James Thing I find interesting ... you have this classical/jazz pianist that makes pretty traditional edm at first. As time goes by, he incorporates more and more of his total musical background to create something that doesn't maybe even sound exactly like edm anymore. Ends up being something interesting and unique. I like that. The stuff he wrote at 14 (like this) is most similar to traditional electronic artists:)
I agree with you James, I miss the good DubStep
I'm very happy with what he has recently done. Vanishing Point, Crickets in the Wind, Time Wizard, Or What. This old stuff is nice in a different way (analogous to the insightful, uninhibited truths of a child's observations). I find the contrast awesome. He really has become a splendid artist. He creates sounds more sophisticated than most edm artists imo.
I was 12 when I discovered vexare, Im 29 now, and making music myself. Still here,
Nostalgy
This kid is an electronic music prodigy. Can't wait to listen to his long list of future music.
This comment dosent aged well... would love to hear from vexare again :/
@Slowed Palace I tried to reseach what happend to him but I can't find any Information sadly...
@@sebastianwinkler4697 shit is sad man dude was so fucking talented
@@sirens367 does he release new music on there? Or is it just a collection of his old stuff?
vexare is dope as shit whoo agrees
Yep.
BlakCStaR Wraith yeahh it's freken dope
llItzTrippsll myep
One of my all time favourites, this just slaps so hard. Usually don't even listen to the genre but this has been on my playlists probably for a decade now
Llevo 8 años escuchando estas melodias me llevan a otro estado quien en 2022 escuchando esta joya de música ♡
i’m still listening to this till this day
Note to self = *Never stop listening to vexare*
2021 still bumping Vexare! Where he at?
Each time... God damn it Vexare...
vexare you never cease to amaze me
This kid has talent that cannot be measured on the Richter scale
Where is he now????
I almost just drove myself crazy trying to remember this song/artist! So happy I found it again still goes so hard 7 years later 😭
Very relaxing...kinda....But I like the piano piece at the beginning. ..
@Adrian Retrepo did u know he plays the piano in the beginning? Since Vexare plays piano after all
Holy shit this guy was 14 when he made this ....
Really?
+Royal Erick y read the description
Juan Miguel El crapo That's crazy. This guy is seriously talented
Sir Xzeldor I take back my praise then lol
+Sir Xzeldor fuck me i tought it was real
hooo yess . I was 20 when this first came Vexare is so underrated
i still like this sound track ..
2016😍
+Alialmoot Al-Enzi Vexare was a god of his time. I wonder what he's up to nowadays.
10/10 PREDICTION MR DUBLECTRO SIR
Checked his Facebook, his last update was sept 2015 unfortunately.
+A Lunata Ghoul Me too ^^
This is the 4th song of Vexare I'm listening to now, (just discovered) and I can see I won't stop till I've listened/found all his music. THIS IS REAL DUBSTEP, THIS IS TRULY AWESOME STUFF!!!
Still here 🤘💀🤘
This is still one of the best songs that’s ever graced my ears. Wish it was on Spotify with good quality
why haven't you posted any more this is good you need to keeo going
14 year old producer? wow i am impressed. I am only 15 myself, and i have to say this guy is a genius :)
high scool girls i keep getting older amd they just stay the same but i remember chillen those long nights finding all the good dubstep i could miss those days
I think this is Vexare's best. It's so beautiful, perfect for every mood. I can't believe he is only 14!
2017 Legend 😍
I just found him today.
Already have a 8 song playlist for my friends to listen to.
Vexare.
So much love.
Elephant.
vexare ce eh um dos melhores q ja fez dubstep mlk
Vexare is so awesome and will always be
1:00 there is a background sound there that every time I hear it I think my mom is yelling for me from downstairs, so i pause there every time XD
There are so many songs in which I think "Oh sh*t, she must be really angry" but it was the songs background every time -.-
Kathi K. Lucky :(
95DubTrOniX95 Oh......I'm sorry
95DubTrOniX95
Why lucky?
soldier5645 it sounds like mine too but is the music lol
Damn this is a throwback. Gotta love the Listen again pop up on UA-cam. Big ups
Still here 2020
Fuck yea
Shared this 7 years ago on Facebook. Good times, still loving it!
I was 11 when I first heard this I think I good times
every Vexare song ive clicked on is some of the best shyt ive ever heard. straight up.
my bro vexare
"still remaining" and this one are my definite favorites from Vexare. The feel he brings with his tunes are ridiculously sick wit it.
Still Here. Never Left Vexare
Can't find this on Spotify, really sad because this song is just fcking amazing (^_-)
I tooooooo
Holy shit, I'm going through my old favorites playlist from forever ago, and this shit I used to listen to when I played skate 3 back in the day. Holy fuck, I can't
literally out loud had to shout oh my god at the drop
Haven't listened to this kid in years. Still the sickest shit out there
his drops are not always the same you noobs.. he is just using a specific set of audio samples on most of his tracks... and besides.. last i checked there where only 8 notes in music.. and he still manages to make this original. youtube = haters, much.
xlXilovedevinXlx late but there is about 16 and those expand infinitely based on octave. Vexare still is a king though.
Such RAW talent I shudder to think what Vexare will be capable of when he is older!
Imagine, this song was made by him at the age of FOURTEEN and that alone speaks volumes of ones potential. Keep it up!
Never forgetti
best song dubstep song i have ever heard. and a 14 year old made this i am glad i am his age so i can keep hearing these songs
it's amazing the music....❤❤❤
Never fails to give me chills.
he is like 18 now... i go to school with him!!:)
nice
Tell him to do some awsome tracks soon ;)
How lucky you are ! :O
Yeh I go to college with Palmer and live on the same floor as him. Its cool hearing him mix and blast his unreleased material ahaha
ImJustinKAY TELL THAT DUDE THANK YOU D'S UDBDHH By far in my opinion a masterpiece maker. Like Woah. He needs more songs like The Clockmaker, this one, Silent Majority, and etc. *-* Tell him pweeze
This has got to be the dubstep song of the year! I demand it!
Where are your other videos?
2021 and this will always be a classic banger
found this on an old mp3. this was my shit
Bro been listening to this since it came out!!!! :)
Beautiful vocals and piano, and one hell of a filthy drop! 10/10!
Now if only I could find the sheet music for the piano...
The piano opening man, it just adds the the epicness of this song!
Holy shit dude, this song has gotten a lot of attention. The last time I was checking into Vexare's music they all head around 1000 views. Pretty proud of the kid for doing so well.
i cant leav this masterpiece i have to come back whole the fucking tine :3
me too!
some of their somber almost dark intros and outros stop being "dope" and are just flat out beautiful
vexare is good because his dubstep actually has a tone vexare atleast adds parts of real music in his dubstep he will put piano and shit his dubstep you can also see a meaning in and he can actually make his dubstep sound sad other dubstep artist just make bull shit with robot voices yelling in the back round
the story to this song is people walk past him and dont even know hes the best dubstepper in the world
theres no age for talent
Vexare plays with your suspense, he puts his drops much later into the song than say...skrillex, and his drops are almost complete opposite to the rest of the song, creating the perfect dubstep.
this dude 14? Damn son...
To be exact, he is going to turn 19 on january 28th 2015.
***** Senpai n_n Was 14 when he made this, so valid comment. Damn, son.
whic hmeans he should be about 20 now :D
@@VoidKyun and about 23 now!
And now 24 now, HE NEEDS TO COME BACKKK
I had my headphones on today at school with this song on..Some kid tried talking to me. I slammed my hand straight into his face and next thing you know "YOU WOULDNT ME "WUBWUBWUB" Just as my hand connected with his face. Dude, Vexare, You make awesome music. Dont give up. You keep this shit UP.
- All the Vexare fans
Omg!
Masterpiece song, so beautiful and emotional! 🎹🏆💖
I miss vexare wheres the guy
Faith in dem hatuz - Absolute zilch.
Faith in the Internet - Armageddon can't come soon enough.
Faith in Vexare - The God of Dubstep.
The Eternal...
One and only...
The Godsteppist...
The Vexare!
I'm the millionth view!!!!!!!!!!
You sure that there only has been 12 views in one day?
i would know you.
2019 back here brings back lovely memories
Someone in 2019 here?
I love this guy. Badass drops. Love it all. Glad I found found this.
かっけぇ
6 years later still come back for this and anthony loves dub..
Need to find a piano transcription :(
d-d-d-d-d-o f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-a re-re-re-r-r-r-e-e-e-e-e miimimimim-mim-m-m-m-mm-m--m-i-ii--ii--i-i-i
Cheers
+how long can my name beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pollo
im waiting for this to pop back up into my recommended
his drops were kinda the same always tho.. correct if im wrong
Listen to this track ... then The Clockmaker, Polar, Still Remaining, The Silent Majority, Where Did We Go. Sound pretty different to me:)
Yeah sure but often the same sound.. But still amazing for his age
Voetsik Official To me the remarkable thing is that he's created a recognizable "Vexare sound" while using different melodies, chords and production sounds. I think it has more to do with how he composes his tracks:)
That's really the big thing, though. Most GOOD dubstep artists have a distinct sound to their drops, even if you notice it in ALL their songs. A drop is kinda like signing a piece of paper in cursive, y'know? Only YOU can do your cursive EXACTLY right.
Yeah you guys are right, but what i meant was that he could at least put a few more sounds in to make it more interesting. But still great. And btw thx for not the nice answers and no rage ;D
I don't want to live in that world one bit. Vexare and electronic genres for life.
fucking song !! love §§§§§§
Still coming back to this