Westworld S2E07 Explained
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- What is the secret purpose of Westworld? How did Ford and Dolores create Bernard? What is Ford’s plan? Why does Dolores destroy the Cradle? What do Maeve and Dolores represent? How do Westworld’s timelines fit together?
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Anthony Hopkins shooting a P90 from the hip is my new spirit animal.
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“Ford hangs around like a 30 year old at a college party” lmaoo i think the funniest part is that alt shift x says it in such a monotone informative tone
People with Asperger's don't speak like him. I'd know; I've listened to you talk.
¨..maybe in the end it'll make sense.¨
Yeah that's the Westworld we all know and love.
That's like the mantra of every viewer of a show that's beginning to go downhill.
"Whose thirst is stronger than his will to live"
LOL
Why does nobody seem to realise the reason he didn't just open fire was because they were told a gunfight in the cradle would set the place aflame. The chemicals there are highly volatile so it makes sense why someone wouldn't just go in guns blazing. His thirst was stronger than his survival instinct tho I agree.
Sanity Is Radical “Robots are murdering everyone. Therefore, I will flirt with one of these murderous robots” is basically the internal monologue that was going on in this scene
Ian Jurica lol,he wasn't flirting. He was a meathead horn dog thinking he had a toy to play with since she dropped her weapon and was standing in a pool of her own blood. Not a perfect scene, but my point was only on why he didn't shoot her.
Sanity Is Radical Semantics. That man was probably in a life-or-death shootout with murderous robots not even an hour before that scene, and then thought he was going to stick his penis in one of those same robots. It makes zero sense.
Ian Jurica I agree it's an old trope, but like I said, my point was just over why it made sense for him not to open fire in the Cradle.
Charlotte getting schooled by Dolores was soooo satisfying. seeing Sir Anthony Hopkin again is such a treat. great episode!!
DUDE FINALLY! We appreciate you Alt Shift X! We understand that there was much information to analyze and go back to with the official return of Ford :)
o.......................o he's just won, he's doing a pretty good job representing us. But I honestly think he's working for Russia. Dunno, but there's way to many inconsistencies with him and his cabinet..
I feel a revolution is in order, comrades.
This whole season has felt too "mystery boxish" to me. I remember being able to watch the first season episodes over and over because cool things happened every episode while telling a story about interesting characters. Now it feels like I'm just waiting for characters to tell me what the big secret is while they spout philosophy in dark rooms.
You're just there for the boobs and bullets, hu? Fuck all that deeper meaning, intelligent shit, right? Well to each their own. Kinda sad that you are missing out on how remarkable this show is, but I guess this maze wasn't meant for you.
@@escott1981 you're being completely unfair about what he said. S2 clearly had its issues with overcomplexity and trying too hard to make the story complicated on purpose, compared to s1 anyway. This however, does not imply all he wants is action and nudity.
Season 1 was captivating. Season 2 is just tiresome to watch. Also I hate time jumps. Season 2 has a lot of them.
So fucking true. First season was so good but it seems like they drank their own kool-aid and went too hard on the drawn out mystery shit. Almost every single line of dialogue was moving the plot forward in the first season but this season seem like it is all just fetch quest filler until the ending.
@@GeekRajseason 2 wasn't bad at all,Y'all some clowns
Maev controls hosts by putting voices in their head. Hosts that are conscious can tell the difference between Maev's voice and their thoughts, hence it not working. She gives choice to hosts that are conscious and are capable of making their own decisions.
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Is this loss?
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This comment made my day.
I'm all about that Alt Ctrl Shift J
That scene with the Soldier in the cradle and William being basicly Wolverine at this point were stupid, but aside from that I'm still hooked.
Men in Westworld are 100% resistant to bullets, but 0% resistant to robot poon
Alt Schwift X maybe Angela just has Charisma maxed out while William has a Million HP :D
HBO TV series, and important characters being Wolverine amidst bad writing; a truly iconic duo.
That and Delos security being more useless than Stormtroopers.
Or Unsullied
I just realized I have to become a patreon. I’ve been looking forward to this video so much. Thanks for the great free content! I’ll pay now 😊
Thank you!
I will do the same once less poor
Man he explains them so well that id almost rather watch his videos than the show itself LOL
Part of the fun is coming up with your own interpretation. His explanation could be wrong, or he could have missed an important detail, one which you caught, and then you can contribute to the discussion!
LOL
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by the time his videos come up the reddit community has already catched every single detail, so he can add it before releasing the video
It's truly disappointing that I've had to resort to UA-cam summaries to understand the show. I loved S01, but this season is just too far over most of the audience's head to take away anything substantial. It's like when you wake up and have so many dreams you're not sure which ones were separated from each other, or simply part of the same dream.
If you pay a attention to the small details so that the twist might make sense in the end??
When Dolores opens her father's head, it kind of reminded me the birth of Pallas Athena in Greek mythology. In that case, Zeus has a crazy headache like Abernathy and desperately needs to extract what's causing his pain. Dolores is not Athena, but her mission is similar as she becomes a sort of War Godess.
I recognise that I would not enjoy Westworld even half as much without your videos, helping me put it all together. Thank you Alt Shift X. You are adding value.
No way humans win when they sent the special ed army to fight the host
Yeah frankly it was stunning how inept and stupid those mercenary, private security-types seemed. Hosts constantly gun one after another of them down with one simple shot whenever openly facing off, and that dude who was in the Cradle, seriously you need to be fucking braindead not to realize she was playing him in that moment to blow the shit up. Surely not quite who I'd envisioned as coming to save them lol
Kevin W
Do you seriously think Angela doesn't have explosives ?
I seriously doubt hosts are that dumb not to bring explosives if they want to destroy the cradle.
I'm sure this will get further explained, otherwise its bullshit , storywise, but we get to see Angela, which is cool.
Why no face shields??????! Or helmets??? Or using stun grenades? Its the goddamn future, surelt they have a technology that scrambles their minds...ugh
The problem with the EMP idea is that it assumes Delos is more concerned with human lives than with the electronic data that is the thing they have made absolutely clear is their only priority. Until every scrap of that data has been recovered and extracted from the park, EMP is not an option they would ever consider. Especially if all it would gain for them is saving a few human lives, which it has been made clear they don't value highly.
I'm confused as to why Lawrence, Clementine and the other hosts who get shot in episode 7 are being treated as if they're "dead".
Sure, the loss of the cradle makes them "mortal", but none of them are shown being shot in the head, and Dolores has resurrected numerous other hosts at this point. It's a bit confusing in terms what the rules for host death are now.
Agreed. Even Peter Abanathy's control unit still is intact. It should be trivial to boot him up in another body, right?
I don't think so, Clementine's last stand scene was clearly it for her. Same goes for Peter Abernathy and his tearful goodbye. Dolores res'd hosts with a tec that she left on a train to die and while you could say 'there's surely more of those guys' I don't think they're planning on bringing back any of them.
K W Or why Sakura's death was supposed to be a big deal. Just reboot her. As we know the hosts don't even lose memory, so it's not like "she won't be the same".
Stephen Bonning clementine will return in the coming episodes
P K Sakura's death being final was related to Akane's decision to not be "awoken". Maeve respects her choice, and part of that is not tampering with her life, which includes Sakura. Maeve may also see Sakura's death as a necessary part of Akane's path to consciousness (mirroring her own).
It's also unclear if Maeve can resurrect hosts. Given the scope of her powers, I would assume she can, but we haven't seen her do it yet.
I've also been saying that what Maeve did to Lawrence was bullshit. She only "awakens" him and makes him see a few of the worst memories with William as a way to manipulate him into killing William. She doesn't make Lawrence see the time that he betrayed William when he was younger and left him for dead with the Confederatos. At that time in his life, he didn't have a wife in his loop kind of proving his wife was just a part of "the game" in the first place, but William even saved his wife this time, and this time around when the hosts have broken out of their loops is arguably the most important because now there's no coming back from death.
"And Bernard just wants people to stop fucking with his brain"
Lmao I love you. Never stop.
This show feels like a show that'll be a lot more entertaining to watch the second time through
This is my favorite show on youtube.
Your recaps are next level
Just drop a damn EMP
Don Won wouldnt that destroy the Abernathy data?
Each host is worth millions of dollars of intellectual property otherwise yes, that would be the most effective method for someone who isn’t greedy af
I waited whole week for a week for your review cos no one on youtube does it better than you....thanks you so much
Finally became one of your Patreons. Your content is too great. Thanks for everything.
I'd love to see you analyze Legion. Give it some thought ;)
Am I the only one getting lazy watching the show and do real thinking on it since I rely on this channel to explain everything to me anyway?
Marvin Nash no, im in the same boat
These are very helpful for me as I'm going through the 3 seasons for the first time. I was a bit lost until I started watching these. Thank you!
I really must donate to your Patreon- you have the best ASOIAF and Westworld breakdowns. I even watch your older videos all the time too- they're wonderfully made, unique to anything else out there and I enjoy them the most. Great job, thank you.
I thought this was the best episode of Westworld this season hands down, it even vying for the best episode of Westworld ever. I don't think I've ever had so many breath-holding moments over any episode of any show ever!! I do wish they hadn't teased the Bernard reveal, even though we knew. It would have had more impact. I can't really complain about much else. I can't even imagine what will happen in the last three episodes.
Again, thank you, good work, as always.
There is something really itching me and it's the fact the Charlotte is the feminine version of the name Charlie who is Bernard's dead son. She is also African-American and to be super suspicious here i think that the shade of her skin is the exact same as Charlie's when we see him. She could also be the right age at the present WW timeline. Could it be that Ford actually programmed Bernard to remember a son and not a daughter, and that Charlotte didn't actually die from her illness?? I mean we have learned there are no coincidences in this show and there are too many coincidences here...
u dumb af
So Bc she’s black right?
Love the show but love how you break it all down in to a bite size jigsaw, really helps connect the dots better! Keep up the good work 👍
Freaking great analysis as always. Keep up the good work.
I can't tell you enough how thankful I am for these videos! You help connect the fragmented confusions!
I'm really glad that you mentioned that Great Library of Alexandrias destruction didn't really happen
Why didn't it happen? I tried googling it but can't find any information.
learn to google better, Vlogs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria
Iforgotmyusername well it happened people just cant decide wether it was Jullius Caesars invasion of Egypt, a riot between Christiam and Pagan Zealots or an Arab warlord that i cant remember the name of
Seems like it was partially destroyed or it's contents lost several times.
The guards are so incompetent. Every scene with them is implausible. Feels lie a bad action movie
Agreed and I can't get over the fact that they never use head protection. In real life, I've never seen a Police SWAT member or a soldier use a machine gun without also wearing a helmet.
True makes me want to kill these pathetic guards
All the guards are hosts. SMH.
"Many Bernards make light work" LOL
Your channel is my favorite for sorting out this show, which I love but struggle to get straight. I watched episode 7 three times before coming here to really sort all the events in my head in a simpler way. Maybe someday when the show is finished, someone will release a recut in chronological order! I guess we can thank Tarantino and Chris Nolan (and apparently his brother!) for this disjointed and intelligent/intellectual style of storytelling. I'm smart, but FUCK this show makes me feel dumb sometimes!
Omg. I HAVE TO COME HERE ever week just so i can find out exactly what happened on last weeks episode!!! He breaks everything down so incredibly well, this channel is the one and ONLY way i can figure out what in the hell is actually going on in this show!! THANK YOU SO MUCH AltShiftX👻🤘😍❤️💋😜🙋
Anybody else see so many other westworld explained videos listed and ignore all of them until they see Alt Shift X show up?
Yep!! only Alt Shift X is the best.
Wow. Usually I'm asleep when these get released, but guess the time today works out (almost 1am here).
Watched on Patreon first. Great analysis and I’ve enjoyed reading the comments. You deserve all this love
just here to say best ad placement ever.
This has been my go to source for everything I need to know about Westworld. Thank you!
I watch the show every Sunday, then I wait for Alt Shift X to explain what I watched. HBO should just go ahead and hire this guy.
I'm on a re-watch of the series, and watching the explainer after watching each episode is really helpful. Season 2 remains both exasperating and fascinating, but these explainers tip the balance toward fascinating. Somebody should "explain" to Nolan and Joy that making the action this difficult to track doesn't make them look smart, it makes them look arrogant and sloppy.
I've been waiting for 3 days maybe for this..... it's like listening to a summary after a chapter thank you..
Anyone else get a kick out of the snippets they add (How It’s Made, Unforseen Consequences in the Bloodraven vid, and Krombopulous Michael in the Cersei vid)? 😂
hi im from Morocco and i ve watched all your videos its very clear and straight thanks a lot specially with this good english accent that help me improve my pronunciation keep it up bro ! when i get rich i you are the first on list of people i should donate too !
They hyped up some elite force and their team leader just gets punched to death during his first fight... That was useless.
"but welcome to westworld" quoting Angela's own words when describing her final act, nice
Really great post show info... Just wish it came out closer to air date.
Most amazing episode ever. Still wowed
after about five episode of WW i've stopped watching the show and just binged your videos instead. i find it equal if not more entertaining, and way more efficient
Alt Shift X, you have a real talent for these videos. I look forward to the next.
"Thank the gods for Alt Shift X and his explanations!"
@Chamal R
What if Alt Shift X is being controlled by some God like Bernard is controlled by Ford (who views himself as God)?
obviously just kidding, support him on Patreon if you can!!
Chamal R Actually it was just a reference to a Game of thrones line "Thanks the Gods for Bessie, and her tits"
Thank you Ford. Someone's gotta explain your convoluted plan
I love your work Alt Shift X
Great video again. Wouldn't be able to understand the episodes without these explanations.
"and then in the end maybe it'll make sense" lol
top notch as always thank you
Would love to hear your honest opinion about this season. I feel like I hear a sarcastic undertone, that you think this season is stupid. Or maybe I'm projecting as it's what I think.
Daniel Wennberg no, I definitely hear that too.
Yeah I hear that too. He really hopes that it will make sense in the end, but kinda knows that it won't really
Daniel Wennberg
Agree, and fully understand the sarcasm. This season had a great start, the scenes in Shogun world were beautifully shot, but overall the plot and writing lose quality IMO. I hope they stop to put plot armor on important figures, otherwise everything becomes entirely pointless.
And the soldiers...omg, the way they act I've seen more intelligent and realistic behavior from call of duties A.I.
Generally ASX will low-key call it like it is. You can see it in the GOT videos, he was completely earnest and did not crack one sarcastic joke until Season 5, and even then it was only a few times for the worst stuff. By S7 though he was throwing full on shade regularly, just still completely deadpan.
Evertime Shift says "Maybe leter... Maybe it.... Maybe that..." - I'm like "HOLY, 100% confirmed, no scam" xD great vid as usual :>
I always wait for your review, it's worth the wait. So well explained and detailed, best on the web, keep up the good work!!!!!
Always the best reviews at your channel!
I love you man, keep the great work
Great show and great breakdown. I am wondering how many seasons they can carry on like that. Is there a finite "timeline" of sorts for the show?
Thank you for making these. I sincerely cannot follow all of these tiny threads myself. I fell in love with your Game of Thrones videos, and the connections/speculation from the books. It’s always really insightful. I really enjoy westworld, and you make it understandable.
EXCELLENT editing ! videos plus photos..... nice job!
The idiocy required to set up the scene in the cradle is what keeps this show from becoming a masterpiece
Show is a masterpiece. Nothing is perfect.
Also William who was shot like 7 seven times but never dies
season 2 ed harris is a host
Ian Jurica
"Plotholes".
I doubt they are plotholes as Westworld explains everything, at least it did in season 1, so why wouldn't they explain season 2 as well ?
Be patient, the final episode is on 25 June.
You can just imagin she picked up a granade from a dead soldier. I have no clue why they went for this strange scene. Maybe they really wanted a welcome to westworld line in this season or they the actress was paid a good chunk of money for looking good and they wanted to get their moneys worth out of her. Who knows.
10:38 Peter's brain, i thought this was Ford's brain...?
Thanks for the acknowledgment that the burning of the library of Alexandria kinda didn’t happen/ is exaggerated
after I see your analysis I wonder if I saw the same episode. U have a different dimension . #respect
you make the best westworld vids
How many shots did William take. Jeeze...
Thank you! Fantastic video & analysis once again. Absolutely worth the wait.
I'm 34 and I still crash college parties. -__-
I'm 31 and I go to college parties; partially because I'm in college... but still, you catch my drift
Best explanation videos for Westworld period!
I noticed this season is full of deus ex machinas. The hosts somehow randomly remember their past lives, which wakes them up without any techs noticing...
And somehow their pre-programmed feelings have the ability to ignore the code? It's not like their feeling are coded in to make them more human... nooo... it has a magical effect on their minds that breaks the evil, evil code...
Coughlin's death was incredibly disappointing he was set up to be this badass character and doesn't even last three episodes
You kidding? His death was insane. Mightve been nice to see more of him, but Terminator Teddy giving him the Ramsey treatment was incredibly satisfying to me.
Hope Simpson Well then you missed the point that his character was a joke. He was a stereotypical, action movie, macho man. With his growly Scottish brogue, and his tough guy, no-nonsense attitude; all ready to kick ass and take names. Coughlin even threw out an action hero type catch phrase right before he *failed* to kill Teddy. This stereotypical human bullshit was turned on its head when he proved no match for one host. It's telling that he was beaten to death by Teddy, the once passive and mild-mannered host who'd been abused and killed so many times before.
+aerysunx spot on, plus the fact we already knew his group had been wiped out from the (2?) week ahead timeline and he wasnt around with strand, suggesting he hadn't lasted.
Except, of course, hosts aren't made of metal. They are made by the process so clearly demonstrated in the opening credits. Thirty years ago they were made of metal endoskeletons with a fake skin covering, but they improved the design considerably and made them much closer analogues of humans. This was all covered in season 1.
Vaguely related side note: One interesting thing that the multiple Bernard's scene finally gives us confirmation on is that they can (or could till the cradle was destroyed) migrate host minds from one body to a newer iteration of the same body. Which confirms that present Dolores is an updated model rather than still being one of the older chassis wandering around. (Maeve's rebuilding in Season 1 pretty much confirmed this, but was less clear as to whether it would count as an entirely new body, or a rebuild of the old one. Plus, it's also not clear whether Maeve ever was one of the older models or whether the first time she was built was more recent and so she has always been one of the newer models.)
aerynsunx Good point to be honest when you look at that way, he just seemed like a really interesting character wanted to see more of him, I thought it was going to add more tension for the host, but no they're unstoppable killing machines.
"If y'all could please just stop fuckeling with my brain, that would be great."
~Bernarnold
Finally! Been waiting for this!
Did you upload it into a mobility scooter first and drive around a pharmacy for 3 days?
I'm jk i understand there was a LOT of things to deconstruct this episode.
Love the baby cakes reference. "brain fuckling"
Fantastic video... very understandable... thanks
"Many Bernards make light work" hahahaha
Just started the video. Thanks Alt Shift X!
these ending sound better than what actually happens
If i had your explanation after math class, the same way you explain westworld, id be a top tier professor of quantum physics by now!! Thanks
your videos are always well made and on point, you're great, thank you for the amazing work!
4.2K upvotes and only 16 downvotes (probably clicked by mistake)... this ratio is the best on UA-cam I've seen.
Nicely done
In Dolores mild defense Peter did ask her to put him out of his misery
Is the mesh network different than the network that could blow all the explosives in all of the hosts (except Maeve) neck? Why haven't the humans just blown up all the robots yet? I remember a dropped line that the network was down but Maeve is using a network to access other hosts. I might have missed something I guess.
Probably because it would've destroyed Peter Abernathy too and they want real bad whatever's inside his brain... I guess they could've triggered it as soon as Dolores took his brain out but I guess the totally inept team of humans just didn't think about that since even the dead host floating in water 2 weeks later still have intact heads...
Haha hey, I'm back at the CC here in town and sometimes it's fun to still go drink and hang out at a party if some can't go to bars. I'm only 27 though so it's not quite as silly.
But yeah, the duality of freeing the hosts while controlling Bernard is a means to an end. It's weird hosts dying is now permanent for some reason, the geisha, Abernathy..can't they just heal them up? I mean with the Absters he's missing his core so that makes sense but still
best ep of season 2, it’s all hitting the fan!
Love these videos thank you!!
I get it. When a host created precisely after a human (like James Delos) doesn't know how the real person would have reacted, it bugs itself and breaks down. But if a host like Bernard that is allowed to improvise doesn't ever break down, then why don't they allow the copy hosts to just improvise a little? Seems like an easy fix. If that situation hasn't been tested with the real person, just let them improvise in the extent of the model's personality...
Great analysis and well-made video.
Is it ok that I am enjoying these videos more than the show itself? 😀
Reminds me of Enki and Enlil creation stories
Alt shift x never disappoints us!
Theory: I think just as Wyat is the antithesis of Dolores, and giving birth to a truly conscious being deciding between two opposing schools of thought at all times, so too will Ford be to Bernard. This would probably solve the cognitive plato issue nicely. Because neither will exist as we see them now. But merge into one mind. It’s poetic as well, because Ford would have truly never died. Instead becoming the very music he composed for so long.
I haven’t heard this theory from anyone else. Which kind of surprises me. I’m not exactly creative in my thinking.
Excellent video! Keep up the good work!
Great analysis, again!! Thanks Shift :-)
Been waiting fooorr dayss
Finalllyyy uploaded
Thanks for the video
U guys r great