People can vote for who they want to vote for. Black people, latino people are not a monolith, yet too many people look at each group as though they are one People. Using the word, "Betrayal" shows how some people don't want others to leave the plantation. Trump won the swing states becasue people in those states were really hurting economically, and when Kamal said that she wouldnt do anything differant form Biden; why would those peopple vote for her. Whn the professor spoke on the economy being seen as a social-economy, great point, problem is thats what keeps people dependet on the government, and look how that turned out for various communities.
The mistake is looking at it through a social lens, it wasnt about government handouts, it was about those that saw their economy get better under Trump, and worse under Biden. People in business saw the effects of those stimulas checks and handouts in keeping people at home, instead of going in to work, resulting in many, many small businesses closing down.
I think the difference is especially for the deportations black people knew they weren’t gonna just stop at illegals and we’ve been shouting it from the roof tops and Latinos voted for it anyway same with the Gaza voters Harris wanted a ceasefire Trump said he’s gonna wipe it all out and they voted for him anyway and now they are saying okay black voters even though we voted against yall we still need yall to support us and it’s like no because when we needed you you didn’t show up for us
I wonder if younger generations understand how different they seem to be to us baby-boomers. I don't know if this is a class thing or not. The language that younger generations use in itself, is A starkly different. Loggins called the protest and riots over George Floyd's killing, an "uprising". Of course this is a widely used term, but is it an accurate description of what took place? Was it really an attempt to wrestle power, from those who are doing wrong to you, which is what an "uprising suggest". Wasn't it merely another among a number of similar responses to wrongs done to one, or a number of us? Haven't they been merely outbursts, instead of up-risings? Isn't calling them more than what they are, a general practice among us? Isn't it hyperbole? Hip-Hop in celebrating its 50th anniversary, used the slogan it "changed the world" - really!? How could it change the world, but not the communities it came out of, and those like them? Black rhetoric has been unproductive for over half a century. We are no more aware today, in saying we are woke, than we were, when we were saying, we are conscious, down for the cause, right-on, for-real/keeping it real. What other people do, is the least of our worries, in our present condition. We have been fracturing more and more, since the days of the Civil Rights and Black Power Movements. We must deal with that problem first, before anything else will make a difference. As it stands now, woke rhetoric paints the picture, that all of our problems are the result of the external causes of racism in all its forms. We surely have long been making our situation worst. We at the same time, have been putting nearly all our attention on these external causes, with we have little to no power to control, and ignore changing the things we do have power over. This is the opposite of the general mode we must be operating in. It must be as systemic and structured, as the forces we wail against. It is at the least inconsistent, to talk about "safe-spaces", yet the most dangerous places for most of us, are in the communities we live. As Jessie Jackson was fighting for equal rights and Black Power, he was also saying to us "down with dope - up with hope", and he asked us "what does it matter, that the doors of opportunity are opened to you, if you are too drunk to stagger through them"? Who among those speaking publicly today, as if they represent all of most Black people, are saying anything like this, to us - asking anything like this, of us? Instead they say senseless counter-productive things, like calling for the defunding and abolishment of police and prisons, as if it were done, all crime would stop, and that all people in prison are innocent, yet they are allowed by us to say these senseless things. This is evidence of our dysfunction, and I don't see many at all calling it for what it is. Black people are truly in need of a "Greatest Generation" of our own, for it will surely require exemplary acts of truthfulness and courage, to reverse all we have been doing, to ourselves. I can only hope, that the generations now, can grow into the strength, truthfulness, and courage that is necessary to stop making our lives worse, so we can truly see how much of our problems are external. In terms of allies, calling for the people of the world, this country and us especially, as a group, to give ourselves a "peace dividend", is the most idealistic yet sensible and practical thing we could do, in terms of employing idealistic rhetoric. Why half step it, if one is going to be so idealistic? Why do we on the Left, not ask anything from us - the people? Why do we still operate under the - "vote for me and I'll set you free", and "power to the people", but not the power of and from the people - mentality? We boomers have failed miserably, so subsequent generation must distinguish themselves from us in productive ways, not with just different up-dated unproductive rhetoric.
This is the most sound position i've heard in year. While we most examine how our formation as a group from slavery play a part in our problems today, so to must we realize where we went wrong in the late sixies. Intergrarion was a class based solution and never addressed those internal issues that effect black americans. And, it can't be over look that in the late 60's those in our communities that were talking about those internal issues were silenced by white america and labeled nationalist. If we ever are going to get back to working for our community, we've got to do it for ourselves. In terms of politics neither party is looking out for our intetest.
The "uprisings" of 2020 can't be compared to the late 1960s and early 1970s, when radical groups like the SLA were setting small bombs off in cities across America. Soft, historically illiterate generation.
If you are not African/black american, I am not supporting your cause.. alot of foreigners of color dont see women in their culture as powerful and are used to living under authoritarian rule..
People can vote for who they want to vote for. Black people, latino people are not a monolith, yet too many people look at each group as though they are one People. Using the word, "Betrayal" shows how some people don't want others to leave the plantation. Trump won the swing states becasue people in those states were really hurting economically, and when Kamal said that she wouldnt do anything differant form Biden; why would those peopple vote for her.
Whn the professor spoke on the economy being seen as a social-economy, great point, problem is thats what keeps people dependet on the government, and look how that turned out for various communities.
The mistake is looking at it through a social lens, it wasnt about government handouts, it was about those that saw their economy get better under Trump, and worse under Biden. People in business saw the effects of those stimulas checks and handouts in keeping people at home, instead of going in to work, resulting in many, many small businesses closing down.
I think the difference is especially for the deportations black people knew they weren’t gonna just stop at illegals and we’ve been shouting it from the roof tops and Latinos voted for it anyway same with the Gaza voters Harris wanted a ceasefire Trump said he’s gonna wipe it all out and they voted for him anyway and now they are saying okay black voters even though we voted against yall we still need yall to support us and it’s like no because when we needed you you didn’t show up for us
I wonder if younger generations understand how different they seem to be to us baby-boomers. I don't know if this is a class thing or not. The language that younger generations use in itself, is A starkly different. Loggins called the protest and riots over George Floyd's killing, an "uprising". Of course this is a widely used term, but is it an accurate description of what took place? Was it really an attempt to wrestle power, from those who are doing wrong to you, which is what an "uprising suggest". Wasn't it merely another among a number of similar responses to wrongs done to one, or a number of us? Haven't they been merely outbursts, instead of up-risings? Isn't calling them more than what they are, a general practice among us? Isn't it hyperbole?
Hip-Hop in celebrating its 50th anniversary, used the slogan it "changed the world" - really!? How could it change the world, but not the communities it came out of, and those like them? Black rhetoric has been unproductive for over half a century. We are no more aware today, in saying we are woke, than we were, when we were saying, we are conscious, down for the cause, right-on, for-real/keeping it real.
What other people do, is the least of our worries, in our present condition. We have been fracturing more and more, since the days of the Civil Rights and Black Power Movements. We must deal with that problem first, before anything else will make a difference. As it stands now, woke rhetoric paints the picture, that all of our problems are the result of the external causes of racism in all its forms.
We surely have long been making our situation worst. We at the same time, have been putting nearly all our attention on these external causes, with we have little to no power to control, and ignore changing the things we do have power over. This is the opposite of the general mode we must be operating in. It must be as systemic and structured, as the forces we wail against. It is at the least inconsistent, to talk about "safe-spaces", yet the most dangerous places for most of us, are in the communities we live.
As Jessie Jackson was fighting for equal rights and Black Power, he was also saying to us "down with dope - up with hope", and he asked us "what does it matter, that the doors of opportunity are opened to you, if you are too drunk to stagger through them"? Who among those speaking publicly today, as if they represent all of most Black people, are saying anything like this, to us - asking anything like this, of us?
Instead they say senseless counter-productive things, like calling for the defunding and abolishment of police and prisons, as if it were done, all crime would stop, and that all people in prison are innocent, yet they are allowed by us to say these senseless things. This is evidence of our dysfunction, and I don't see many at all calling it for what it is.
Black people are truly in need of a "Greatest Generation" of our own, for it will surely require exemplary acts of truthfulness and courage, to reverse all we have been doing, to ourselves. I can only hope, that the generations now, can grow into the strength, truthfulness, and courage that is necessary to stop making our lives worse, so we can truly see how much of our problems are external.
In terms of allies, calling for the people of the world, this country and us especially, as a group, to give ourselves a "peace dividend", is the most idealistic yet sensible and practical thing we could do, in terms of employing idealistic rhetoric. Why half step it, if one is going to be so idealistic?
Why do we on the Left, not ask anything from us - the people? Why do we still operate under the - "vote for me and I'll set you free", and "power to the people", but not the power of and from the people - mentality?
We boomers have failed miserably, so subsequent generation must distinguish themselves from us in productive ways, not with just different up-dated unproductive rhetoric.
This is the most sound position i've heard in year. While we most examine how our formation as a group from slavery play a part in our problems today, so to must we realize where we went wrong in the late sixies. Intergrarion was a class based solution and never addressed those internal issues that effect black americans. And, it can't be over look that in the late 60's those in our communities that were talking about those internal issues were silenced by white america and labeled nationalist. If we ever are going to get back to working for our community, we've got to do it for ourselves. In terms of politics neither party is looking out for our intetest.
The "uprisings" of 2020 can't be compared to the late 1960s and early 1970s, when radical groups like the SLA were setting small bombs off in cities across America.
Soft, historically illiterate generation.
I voted for Harris.
It's not just Latinos it was Africans as well.
Africans are in such low numbers! How can you even compare?
If you are not African/black american, I am not supporting your cause.. alot of foreigners of color dont see women in their culture as powerful and are used to living under authoritarian rule..
Ode.
Biden said, "Black women are the backbone of democracy", where were they when Harris ran? They ran from her.