I'd just like to comment that Colin did a great transfer for me yesterday on 3 old DATs and a damaged CD from the 1990s. I'd pretty much given up on them but he saved the data and with no fuss. An absolute gent as well. Thanks Colin.
Very nice to see another conversion option for the PCM-1630.and one that is so simple to boot. Regarding PCM-1630 I/O from what I can gather a stock unit came with analog I/O only not even SDIF-2 so all Digital I/O was an option and many users unless they had other digital gear to interface to it, would not opt for any sort of digital I/O. Another strike against the SDIF-2 I/O is that the SDIF chips run rather warm and seem to go bad.
I do like your tenacity in finding a way to get a better way of extracting the digital audio. nice to find the ADT box. Digital audio on a 3.5mm jack, yikes. And yes, I quite agree, that menu on the Tascam is enough to drive anyone to drink.
It's worse, that's a 2.5mm jack with non-standard wiring. The Tascam menu is even worse when the rotary wheel gets a bit worn and doesn't always go where you expect it to.
@@video99couk Rotary wheel, ah yes, I have a Marantz SR4200 amplifier with an 'encoder' volume knob which needs looking at, the slightest touch and the volume shoots up past 0db, connected to my Tannoy DMT 10's it can give your ears and neighbours quite a shock!
Hi! Great video as always.. I have seen digital audio on betamax and svhs.. I don't have any PCM module to access to the digital audio of those tapes.. can you suggest me, please, what module do i have to get for these tapes? Thanks
I have covered those too:ua-cam.com/video/OPjOeir4iEQ/v-deo.html PCM F1, PCM501 and PCM701 units turn up on eBay quite often, but don't pay silly money for them. Somewhere there is some software which can decode these from video files, though personally I didn't have much luck with that.
@@video99couk Thank you. Gonna test that software and if it doesn't work, I'm gonna wait for a reasonable price at Ebay for the PCM modules. Greetings from Chile
These are cool, we do all of our PCM in software now - just capture the tape _as per_ then unpack it in software and extract a PCM audio file. These are cool machines though, I get the appeal :)
Hi Colin, I have a Sony-1610 Processor playing my large collection of Umatic Studio master CD production audio tapes via my Sony VO-5850DA with D75 mod. I have seen an ADT Sample Rate converter Model SRC, (rear connections are different to your Converter), and I'm asking if this would operate with my equipment in the same way as your set up here.
If you're looking at the ASC SRC1 Digital Audio Sample Rate Converter, no this doesn't have an SDIF input set. S/PDIF is the modern signal type and is completely incompatible. If you have a different model in mind, include a link to see it.
Huh. It appears there is an option card for the 1630, the DABK-1630, which replaces the AD-32 and DA-15 that comes in the unit, and which changes the XLR audio connectors into AES/EBU on input 1 and output 1. I discovered this in the manual while I was poking around looking at what would be involved in making a newer SDIF2 converter, possibly with the ability to record directly over USB.
Yes that's true. It disables the analogue output though, which some customers prefer, so it's a really clunky solution. Not to mention almost impossible to find.
Very nice and informative content. Good stuff. Oh, and may I complement you on your audio quality? Very clear, well balanced sound and dead silent. As I often listen on good quality headphones to YT videos, I am often disappointed in the audio. Not here.
Lucky you were able to find the a.d.t daf converter, ideal :-D I expected it to be half empty for some odd reason, if they didn't have fpga chips i imagine it would be full to the gills. I think the loose screws were just lack of regular checking of the equipment. The sockets got loose and the stressed joints were the result. Hope you had all your windows open, this weather is a bit warm lol.
1992 is _very_ early for FPGAs. I cannot imagine that, at such a low volume, this would have been cheaper than discrete logic. Also there might be a little SPI EEPROM next to the FPGAs holding the configuration data. I still think that doing it with a digitized version of the video would be more efficient, particularly as there is a better chance of detecting dropouts that way.
@@video99couk Actually no, you could just capture _both_ streams, sync them in post and therefore use them both. It might even be possible to use a frame synchoniser to sync up both signals to a reference sync (the VCR would need to be synced too in order to avoid dropped frames) and to feed them into the component inputs of a frame grabber to record both at the same time.
Love your videos on early digital audio. Keep them coming.👍❤🎶
I'd just like to comment that Colin did a great transfer for me yesterday on 3 old DATs and a damaged CD from the 1990s. I'd pretty much given up on them but he saved the data and with no fuss. An absolute gent as well. Thanks Colin.
Very nice to see another conversion option for the PCM-1630.and one that is so simple to boot.
Regarding PCM-1630 I/O from what I can gather a stock unit came with analog I/O only not even SDIF-2 so all Digital I/O was an option and many users unless they had other digital gear to interface to it, would not opt for any sort of digital I/O. Another strike against the SDIF-2 I/O is that the SDIF chips run rather warm and seem to go bad.
I thought that the SDIF-2 interface was always included, but I could be wrong.
Saw you last Sunday bud, I was coming out of Ben's farm shop, I was in my black astra, nice to see you toodling about in the Avenger.
I do like your tenacity in finding a way to get a better way of extracting the digital audio. nice to find the ADT box.
Digital audio on a 3.5mm jack, yikes. And yes, I quite agree, that menu on the Tascam is enough to drive anyone to drink.
It's worse, that's a 2.5mm jack with non-standard wiring.
The Tascam menu is even worse when the rotary wheel gets a bit worn and doesn't always go where you expect it to.
@@video99couk Rotary wheel, ah yes, I have a Marantz SR4200 amplifier with an 'encoder' volume knob which needs looking at, the slightest touch and the volume shoots up past 0db, connected to my Tannoy DMT 10's it can give your ears and neighbours quite a shock!
Hi! Great video as always.. I have seen digital audio on betamax and svhs.. I don't have any PCM module to access to the digital audio of those tapes.. can you suggest me, please, what module do i have to get for these tapes? Thanks
I have covered those too:ua-cam.com/video/OPjOeir4iEQ/v-deo.html
PCM F1, PCM501 and PCM701 units turn up on eBay quite often, but don't pay silly money for them. Somewhere there is some software which can decode these from video files, though personally I didn't have much luck with that.
@@video99couk Thank you. Gonna test that software and if it doesn't work, I'm gonna wait for a reasonable price at Ebay for the PCM modules. Greetings from Chile
These are cool, we do all of our PCM in software now - just capture the tape _as per_ then unpack it in software and extract a PCM audio file.
These are cool machines though, I get the appeal :)
That's certainly one approach, though you lose the RAR (read and read) error correction of the PCM-1630 that way.
Hi Colin, I have a Sony-1610 Processor playing my large collection of Umatic Studio master CD production audio tapes via my Sony VO-5850DA with D75 mod. I have seen an ADT Sample Rate converter Model SRC, (rear connections are different to your Converter), and I'm asking if this would operate with my equipment in the same way as your set up here.
If you're looking at the ASC SRC1 Digital Audio Sample Rate Converter, no this doesn't have an SDIF input set. S/PDIF is the modern signal type and is completely incompatible. If you have a different model in mind, include a link to see it.
Huh. It appears there is an option card for the 1630, the DABK-1630, which replaces the AD-32 and DA-15 that comes in the unit, and which changes the XLR audio connectors into AES/EBU on input 1 and output 1.
I discovered this in the manual while I was poking around looking at what would be involved in making a newer SDIF2 converter, possibly with the ability to record directly over USB.
Yes that's true. It disables the analogue output though, which some customers prefer, so it's a really clunky solution. Not to mention almost impossible to find.
Nice to see a XILINX FPGA. No surprise since the product is from 1990s, not 1980s.
Very nice and informative content. Good stuff. Oh, and may I complement you on your audio quality? Very clear, well balanced sound and dead silent. As I often listen on good quality headphones to YT videos, I am often disappointed in the audio. Not here.
Neewer microphones on stands, Rhode wireless mics when required. I've had a few audio problems in the past but got it all sorted now.
Lucky you were able to find the a.d.t daf converter, ideal :-D
I expected it to be half empty for some odd reason,
if they didn't have fpga chips i imagine it would be full to the gills.
I think the loose screws were just lack of regular checking of the equipment.
The sockets got loose and the stressed joints were the result.
Hope you had all your windows open, this weather is a bit warm lol.
It has an impressively small PCB.
All windows closed or the bugs get in.... We have Air Con!
1992 is _very_ early for FPGAs. I cannot imagine that, at such a low volume, this would have been cheaper than discrete logic. Also there might be a little SPI EEPROM next to the FPGAs holding the configuration data.
I still think that doing it with a digitized version of the video would be more efficient, particularly as there is a better chance of detecting dropouts that way.
There might be mileage in the digitised video route, though that would kill the RAR error correction system.
@@video99couk Actually no, you could just capture _both_ streams, sync them in post and therefore use them both. It might even be possible to use a frame synchoniser to sync up both signals to a reference sync (the VCR would need to be synced too in order to avoid dropped frames) and to feed them into the component inputs of a frame grabber to record both at the same time.
There's an 8 pin socketed device between the FPGAs, that's probably the EEPROM.
hi what about betacam digi can they take in this i have seen a;pt of funny in puts as it's a sony things
No, SDIF-2 inputs were never fitted to any video equipment as far as I'm aware. They were fitted to a few DAT recorders, hence my previous solution.
hi i have seen his kind of unit before you know them germany studio gear for the home THE B bring lot there's been alot of models over the years
Love it !!
But not much to see the ,really nice, big fat guy doing his job 😣
Anyway, keep going, u doing great !