Should we like a video where you say "The end is finally here"? That's Incredible!!!! It's always sad when flag carrier quit operations and we should be happy? I wonder if that happened to the flag carrier of your country... 😂😂😂
And this begs the question: why did it take so long? Alitalia has been on life support for decades. This from Wikipedia: _It has reported only one year of profit (1998) since its foundation in 1946._
But the net effect here is they're changing names, and letting Alitalia default on it's debt. It's going to largely be the same managment, same markets, same planes, and generally the same cost structure (same planes/airports) with the same revenue base. And still in Covid. How do we honestly expect any change?
Note: everything owned by Alitalia, including the brand and the name, will be put up for auction. It is entirely possible that ITA themselves or someone else might buy the brand rights and Alitalia might rise again.
No way. It is a matter of writing off past debt. The new entity CANNOT bear the same name of the old entity. The brand Alitalia is finished for good, and I doubt anyone will be intersted in buying it as there is no brand value if there is no operating buiness that goes with it.
@RAVINDRA SWAROOP Hi! Yes, I knew that. By the way there is an excellent documentary on the 2001 financial collapse of Swissair. The name is "Grounding - The last days of Swissair". It's in German but with English subtitles. Maybe you can find it on-line. I watched it twice, really good.
What’s doubly disappointing is that many years ago, I flew a flight from Newark to Rome that was a codeshare between Continental and Alitalia. It was fantastic.
I'm Italian and never heard this joke 😂. Anyway the service of Alitalia isn't bad. It's just the economic to be bad (Being in Italy, favouritism and corruption probably increased the economic problems of the airline)
Alitalia is an an airline icon, just like Pan Am, TWA, SABENA, Swissair, Eastern, and no replacement airline can replace the history of once great airlines.
As Italian ITA raises more questions than answers, the first is that at least I hope that they’ll improve Alitalia and not be worse, an what end is reserved for Alitalia Cityliner? Since on the ITA Booking website I don’t see any flight operated by an ERJ (correct if I’m wrong), to be honest I’m very scared, and actually as an Italian to me ITA is not my flag carrier, because i just can’t see any future for them, and to me in some decades they’ll have the same problems that Alitalia had and became the same as Alitalia, for me there little Italian airline (like Ego Airways or Neos) that are much better than Alitalia (I personally flow on Neos B38M and 789 and on Ego Airways only E190) and to me the future of Italian aviation is made by little, expensive and good carrier and low cost carriers, but we’ll see, I’m ready to fly ITA and I’m organising to book a flight on the first day of operation of ITA (hoping to see something)
It seems ITA will keep just one Embraer, that is ridiculous as they'll have huge structure cost for just an airplane and also they'll keep the A330 instead of the B777. ITA is already doomed and won't last 5 years.
@@Guren74 Many of the airplanes alitalia flies are actually registered in ireland as they are actually leased. I can think of some contractual obligation towards a lessor that have to be uphold. The A330 are also newer than the B777.
No big deal.... Western, TWA, Northwest, Continental, PSA, AirCal, Allegheny, Mohawk, USAir, America West, Eastern, PanAm.....the list of failures and mergers is endless.
@@johniii8147 It hasn't been put up to auction yet. It's highly probable that they will get it and use it, at least that's what Italian news expect to happen
Maybe they had to give up all of Alitalia's Malpensa slots as part of the cost to secure the needed startup funding, and could explain why they still have 85% of nearby Milan-Linate's slots under their control.
Within one year or less most of Alitalia management, employees, airplanes, airports slots will be part of ITA, it is not because of a new certificate and planes painted in different colors that it is new airline , simply said it is ALITALIA 2.0 and I am glad it is.
Glad? Alitalia is bleeding money left and right, since decades. They only could keep flying because of the diligent italian taxpayers. It is in italy's best interest to not finance ITA, rather let it go bust for good.
I really don't think so. Unprofitable airlines like Alitalia are just dragging along, losing money every year, and unable to improve and innovate. A new airline is just what was needed. Italy will still have a flag carrier. Nothing to be sad about.
It's not exact. Italia (and me as one) is happy about that. And a lot also. Alitalia was a cancer in our economy. We pay 2 millions euros PER DAY, to let Alitalia survive. Was never profitable since the 46. Where really happy this giagantic failed company has finally closed
In 2000 there were negotiations for a merger between KLM and Alitalia. The negotiations were very difficult. 'The Dutch are complaining about the Italians because they promised to close one hub, Milan or Rome. It was not cost-efficient to use two hubs. And Alitalia would also be privatized, but when?' 'The Italians also complained about the Dutch. For example, the Dutch lunch consisted of cheese sandwiches and milk. They were dissatisfied with the food at KLM HQ.' Leo van Wijk (former KLM CEO) According to KLM, Alitalia did not want or could not restructure or work more efficiently. KLM eventually withdrew from the negotiations. As a result, KLM had to pay a fine of 250 million euros to Alitalia.
I remember flying from Rome to JFK on Alitalia. I was seated in the no-smoking section, but there was no barrier to stop the smoke from passing from the smoking section. I was the most unpleasant flight of my life.
When I lived in Chicago I worked for a company that transported the Alitalia crews from ORD to their downtown Chicago hotel. They were a fun group to transport.
The Alitalia Brand will surely survive! It will shortly be put for sale through an open tender that will see ITA partecipate. So or ITA or other carrier will eventually buy and operate an airline with the Alitalia Brand
I am honestly amazed to hear that "Alitalia gives bad services" when I have flown with them I had the same treatment as other major airlines like Lufthansa etc, Alitalia has an amazing safety record, it has been 30 years since an accident which had casualties, these result are not achieved by sleeping on the bed, so yes even though financial mistakes have been done in the last 10 years it does not mean mean that the crewe are not professional infact I think alitalia' crews have really high standard considering they kept working for this company with a smile kn their face even if the company struggled to stay alive day after day
so like.. they are just re-incorporating it into another state-owned thing? is this just a way to write of stuff for the bookkeepers and an opportunity to fire a few people?
I remember taking Alitalia in 2010 from Boston to Tel Aviv via Rome. Even as my memory decays I can remember that it was a very old gross plane for both flights and was legitimately worried we would crash. I was very happy we took a direct Delta flight back to the states.
Belive that delta had so many more crashes, off course bigger company, but i'l rather prefer so many others companies, what do you think about QF, even virgin Atlantic, the list is so long........
My thoughts that the new Italian Airline won't last long . Why ? Just looking that Alitalia closure it seems that the goverment had failed its well know state airline and according to Wikipedia It says the goverment will giving funds to the airline . What happen if the goverment lose money ? It is impossible that airline it self could earn by with the passangers fares . farewell Alitalia
Alitalia was not able to compete with AF/KLM and Lufthansa in europe. For long and short flight + Italy has opened to many slots for Ryanair easyjet which took the entire business in Italy. I saw a couple times some flights from Paris to NYC with Alitalia which were 20-30% more expensive than af with a direct flight or klm with a stop in Amsterdam. They have to reorganize the company…
Alitalia wouldn't be able to compete, even if they would be the only carrier in europe. Their ventures were always sponsored by the government, there was never a reason to actually deliver.
Best of luck to the new Italian airline! Hopefully they will be able to bring the Alitalia Business's class service (one of the best) to the entire new airline in its entirety!!!!
In 2008 or so we had to fly from Rome to Paris to then connect to a flight to Houston - holding both tickets on AirFrance and Alitalia we decided to take the AirFrance flight as we were able to find the check-in counter and gate for that flight…we always wondered where the Alitalia flight had wondered off to…. I think that speaks volumes about the operations of Alitalia
Because of italian laws. As many airplanes are leased, the italian law would: - Make the rightful owner of the airplane pay for the debts accumulated by the airplane - Lenghten the process of reposession of the vehicle, as the owner would have to prove their ownership in an italian court. Much easier to register the planes somewhere else.
Have not flown them for some time but have fond memories of friendly and courteous service from the cabin crew. Seems they were plagued by bad management, strikes, overpaying staff and seemed to rescued every couple of years in a restructuring in which a number of investors got their fingers burned. Am not sure what exactly is different this time. Is it basically not a retrenchment and a name change, i.e. a bigger restructuring than previous efforts. Hopefully this one works.
Hey had to do this 10 years ago. Pilots blocked any options back then. Let's wait and see the new contracts and procedure detail for the personnel to see if they are aligned to the current market. In my understanding they were a big part of the reason why Alitalia was a money shredder.
If the EU had not intervened to say stop, the Italian state was ready to inject another 3 billion euros in this company almost run by unions and endowed with too many staff. They refused the 2019 pay cuts when the company was already on the knees, living on state aid. The best thing ITA could do from launch isto start with a lot of new staff with fresh minds
They shed the debt of Alitalia, the union contracts, and buy the Alitalia assets and hire the personnel unsaddled by the contracts. It may not work in the long run but it’s a new start.
So ITA is sort of like Alitalia 2.0 except it will start much smaller and not be bankrupt, but will acquire much more of Alitalia's planes and assets in the future. Interesting business move.
This now will give boost to Middle eastern airlines which are dominating the Aviation sector due to their geographical presence. They will now increase the frequency to the Italian cities. Sadly, Same is the case here in India, Air India which is the country's flagship carrier is also on Ventilator.
Ummm yes and no. I’m in finance. This is a classic ‘Phoenix’ move. Close the old, get rid of the unwanted including surplus and troublesome staff and unions, debt etc. Start fresh with cherry picking hiring, airplanes and routes and a clean debt slate. Classic move.
Flew them short-haul at least twice and had very pleasant experiences. Nice crews & adequately comfortable. They'll be missed. Hope the new airline joins SkyTeam.
How can an airline survive with so many different unions competing for power over this airline? Plus on European connections I hardly ever saw a remarkable service attitude, maybe due to the tiring effect of almost constant threat of insolvency. Let's hope that the new airline has a better future.
ITA? If they are serious, they should have put in some effort to come up with a strong brandname. This is poor marketing and branding right at the start. Moreover, an Italian airline will have it difficult. Management issues are probably built-in by design and they will never go to extents like Gulf/Middle East carriers to offer something that the markets will lap up. I neither like the new name nor do I have high hopes for the new entity. Really sorry for all the people at Alitalia.
the Alitalia that is shutting down has not been around for 74 years. It has gone through rebirths as a new company a couple of times, a new company that bought the brand name from the former bankrupt one. In some of the changes, the union that had caused the previous bankruptcy due to strike wanted to prevent the new carrier from restarting without giving in to the union's demands (arguing that by getting the Alitalia brand and buying aircraft from Alitalia creditors, the new version must inherit union contracts). This time around, it looks ike ITA can truly start from scratch without any baggage from its previous self. Remains to be seen how long this one lasts. And I bet that once old Alitalia is formerly disolved, the new one will start marieting its fligsht as Alitalia, albeit with different airline code.
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@Simple Flying would you consider doing a video on the history of other Italian airlines?
I think it would be very interesting
@@michele3135 thanks for the suggestion Michele. I can’t promise that we’ll do it, but I’ll pass it onto the content team. :) - TB
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Should we like a video where you say "The end is finally here"? That's Incredible!!!! It's always sad when flag carrier quit operations and we should be happy? I wonder if that happened to the flag carrier of your country... 😂😂😂
And this begs the question: why did it take so long?
Alitalia has been on life support for decades.
This from Wikipedia: _It has reported only one year of profit (1998) since its foundation in 1946._
Because Italy is a state run economy when it comes to it's airline industry.
My god... I wonder what happened in 1998 haha
It was profitable until deregulation in 1997, and later just for one year due to the KLM fine that had to pay to not merge
But the net effect here is they're changing names, and letting Alitalia default on it's debt. It's going to largely be the same managment, same markets, same planes, and generally the same cost structure (same planes/airports) with the same revenue base. And still in Covid. How do we honestly expect any change?
Because the government cannot support it anymore.
Note: everything owned by Alitalia, including the brand and the name, will be put up for auction. It is entirely possible that ITA themselves or someone else might buy the brand rights and Alitalia might rise again.
There is some hope
hopefully
I remember when Swissair went out of business, the same thing happened.
No way. It is a matter of writing off past debt. The new entity CANNOT bear the same name of the old entity. The brand Alitalia is finished for good, and I doubt anyone will be intersted in buying it as there is no brand value if there is no operating buiness that goes with it.
@RAVINDRA SWAROOP Hi! Yes, I knew that. By the way there is an excellent documentary on the 2001 financial collapse of Swissair. The name is "Grounding - The last days of Swissair". It's in German but with English subtitles. Maybe you can find it on-line. I watched it twice, really good.
What’s doubly disappointing is that many years ago, I flew a flight from Newark to Rome that was a codeshare between Continental and Alitalia. It was fantastic.
Business or First? LOL
I took the same flight in 2003.
Codeshare between Alitalia and Conti-Who?? Just kidding! I'm a CO former employee 😀!
We can make a Netflix series about how many Alitalia's rise and fall.
Airline heist
Which one of the 25 bankruptcies do you wish to cover ?
What's it called, Alitalia's Eleven
Prepare for 15 seasons!
This reminds me of the old joke that the reason the Pope kisses the ground when he lands is because he flies Alitalia.
Lmao I have never heard that but it's hilarious nevertheless.
@@kuber5987 Alitalia is bad so the Pope is thankful for meeting with the ground after landing
I'm Italian and never heard this joke 😂.
Anyway the service of Alitalia isn't bad. It's just the economic to be bad (Being in Italy, favouritism and corruption probably increased the economic problems of the airline)
@@kuber5987 In the past the flights and service were absolutely terrible.
the magiority of the Alitalia pilot's are ex military pilot.
Keep Alitalia’s livery and brand it ITA. Their concept paint scheme looks uninspiring
exact, I'm italian, the livery is really bad, we have amazing designers, and they took the baddest one
@@waltergreen3691 What is "baddest"? 🤣
@@matildesroka4471 another word to say "worst", search it if you want
The concept featured in this video is just a concept made by fans, no actual livery has been decided upon yet.
Alitalia is an an airline icon, just like Pan Am, TWA, SABENA, Swissair, Eastern, and no replacement airline can replace the history of once great airlines.
Such a shame. What a rich history lost to time
I didn’t like their service, but certainly an iconic name that disappears and sad for the employees for sure.
Truly the end of an era
As Italian ITA raises more questions than answers, the first is that at least I hope that they’ll improve Alitalia and not be worse, an what end is reserved for Alitalia Cityliner? Since on the ITA Booking website I don’t see any flight operated by an ERJ (correct if I’m wrong), to be honest I’m very scared, and actually as an Italian to me ITA is not my flag carrier, because i just can’t see any future for them, and to me in some decades they’ll have the same problems that Alitalia had and became the same as Alitalia, for me there little Italian airline (like Ego Airways or Neos) that are much better than Alitalia (I personally flow on Neos B38M and 789 and on Ego Airways only E190) and to me the future of Italian aviation is made by little, expensive and good carrier and low cost carriers, but we’ll see, I’m ready to fly ITA and I’m organising to book a flight on the first day of operation of ITA (hoping to see something)
It seems ITA will keep just one Embraer, that is ridiculous as they'll have huge structure cost for just an airplane and also they'll keep the A330 instead of the B777.
ITA is already doomed and won't last 5 years.
@@Guren74 I think that when the EU will stop founding ITA will collapse, I hope not but I think that’s this is the future
@@ivanmaggini which future can they have when stubbornly keep doing the same mistakes again and again?
@@Guren74 Many of the airplanes alitalia flies are actually registered in ireland as they are actually leased. I can think of some contractual obligation towards a lessor that have to be uphold.
The A330 are also newer than the B777.
Will they buy all those A220s Alitalia ordered?
No big deal.... Western, TWA, Northwest, Continental, PSA, AirCal, Allegheny, Mohawk, USAir, America West, Eastern, PanAm.....the list of failures and mergers is endless.
The end of an Italian icon
It is likely that ITA will get the Alitalia brand too, which makes this op a change in all but name (like in the Gattopardo)
They probably don't want the name or they would have already bought it
"For things to remain the same, everything must change"
they don't want the name, I agree.
@@johniii8147 It hasn't been put up to auction yet. It's highly probable that they will get it and use it, at least that's what Italian news expect to happen
Amazing video and RIP the best Italian airline to ever exist
Did I miss what happens to Milan-Malpensa airport?
Maybe they had to give up all of Alitalia's Malpensa slots as part of the cost to secure the needed startup funding, and could explain why they still have 85% of nearby Milan-Linate's slots under their control.
ITA? They could have called it a FerrAIRi !!!
Within one year or less most of Alitalia management, employees, airplanes, airports slots will be part of ITA, it is not because of a new certificate and planes painted in different colors that it is new airline , simply said it is ALITALIA 2.0 and I am glad it is.
Glad? Alitalia is bleeding money left and right, since decades. They only could keep flying because of the diligent italian taxpayers. It is in italy's best interest to not finance ITA, rather let it go bust for good.
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I really don't think so. Unprofitable airlines like Alitalia are just dragging along, losing money every year, and unable to improve and innovate. A new airline is just what was needed. Italy will still have a flag carrier. Nothing to be sad about.
It's not exact. Italia (and me as one) is happy about that. And a lot also. Alitalia was a cancer in our economy. We pay 2 millions euros PER DAY, to let Alitalia survive. Was never profitable since the 46. Where really happy this giagantic failed company has finally closed
People across the world still want to visit Italy. And they need an airline to take them there. Everything will be fine. ;)
You guys are like “we did it boys and girls Alitalia is no more”
In 2000 there were negotiations for a merger between KLM and Alitalia. The negotiations were very difficult.
'The Dutch are complaining about the Italians because they promised to close one hub, Milan or Rome. It was not cost-efficient to use two hubs. And Alitalia would also be privatized, but when?'
'The Italians also complained about the Dutch. For example, the Dutch lunch consisted of cheese sandwiches and milk. They were dissatisfied with the food at KLM HQ.'
Leo van Wijk (former KLM CEO)
According to KLM, Alitalia did not want or could not restructure or work more efficiently. KLM eventually withdrew from the negotiations. As a result, KLM had to pay a fine of 250 million euros to Alitalia.
Beter that way, or KLM would be no more.
Isnt the whole country shutting down?
i thought they closed down a couple years ago ??!!
I will miss one of the greatest liveries ever
Do you mean Alitalia will rebrand as ITA?
I remember flying from Rome to JFK on Alitalia. I was seated in the no-smoking section, but there was no barrier to stop the smoke from passing from the smoking section. I was the most unpleasant flight of my life.
When I lived in Chicago I worked for a company that transported the Alitalia crews from ORD to their downtown Chicago hotel. They were a fun group to transport.
Any news about all pending refunds , PLB incentives & liability towards travel agents …
The Alitalia Brand will surely survive! It will shortly be put for sale through an open tender that will see ITA partecipate. So or ITA or other carrier will eventually buy and operate an airline with the Alitalia Brand
Well, i try to book tickets from alitalia and they still have flights until may next year.
I am honestly amazed to hear that "Alitalia gives bad services" when I have flown with them I had the same treatment as other major airlines like Lufthansa etc, Alitalia has an amazing safety record, it has been 30 years since an accident which had casualties, these result are not achieved by sleeping on the bed, so yes even though financial mistakes have been done in the last 10 years it does not mean mean that the crewe are not professional infact I think alitalia' crews have really high standard considering they kept working for this company with a smile kn their face even if the company struggled to stay alive day after day
Clearly it’s the same airline, they are just shedding all the employee deadweight
so like.. they are just re-incorporating it into another state-owned thing? is this just a way to write of stuff for the bookkeepers and an opportunity to fire a few people?
Which alliance will ITA join? Will they go the same route to skyteam or join another?
I remember taking Alitalia in 2010 from Boston to Tel Aviv via Rome. Even as my memory decays I can remember that it was a very old gross plane for both flights and was legitimately worried we would crash. I was very happy we took a direct Delta flight back to the states.
Belive that delta had so many more crashes, off course bigger company, but i'l rather prefer so many others companies, what do you think about QF, even virgin Atlantic, the list is so long........
My first thoughts were “NO AIRLINE”
No bailout?
My thoughts that the new Italian Airline won't last long . Why ? Just looking that Alitalia closure it seems that the goverment had failed its well know state airline and according to Wikipedia It says the goverment will giving funds to the airline . What happen if the goverment lose money ? It is impossible that airline it self could earn by with the passangers fares . farewell Alitalia
If your government gives you money, regardles of your effort, would you work hard or lean back?
@@eslofftschubar206 Is not about working hard , if u say hv studies to make i can only say that is work hard but is an AIRLINE
Hasn't 'neos' replaced Alitalia?
No, Alitalia is being replaced but ITA. Neos is a totally separate entity. - TB
Alitalia was not able to compete with AF/KLM and Lufthansa in europe. For long and short flight + Italy has opened to many slots for Ryanair easyjet which took the entire business in Italy.
I saw a couple times some flights from Paris to NYC with Alitalia which were 20-30% more expensive than af with a direct flight or klm with a stop in Amsterdam.
They have to reorganize the company…
Alitalia wouldn't be able to compete, even if they would be the only carrier in europe. Their ventures were always sponsored by the government, there was never a reason to actually deliver.
Best of luck to the new Italian airline! Hopefully they will be able to bring the Alitalia Business's class service (one of the best) to the entire new airline in its entirety!!!!
In 2008 or so we had to fly from Rome to Paris to then connect to a flight to Houston - holding both tickets on AirFrance and Alitalia we decided to take the AirFrance flight as we were able to find the check-in counter and gate for that flight…we always wondered where the Alitalia flight had wondered off to…. I think that speaks volumes about the operations of Alitalia
Is that ITA livery official?
I guess I have failed to see every at Toronto Pearson
Managed to fly on Alitalia at least once. Ciao Bella
Why did they use an Irish Registered aircraft cuz as far as I know they use (or used) EI- and now the newer EJ- for Irish registered Aircraft
Because of italian laws. As many airplanes are leased, the italian law would:
- Make the rightful owner of the airplane pay for the debts accumulated by the airplane
- Lenghten the process of reposession of the vehicle, as the owner would have to prove their ownership in an italian court.
Much easier to register the planes somewhere else.
Have not flown them for some time but have fond memories of friendly and courteous service from the cabin crew. Seems they were plagued by bad management, strikes, overpaying staff and seemed to rescued every couple of years in a restructuring in which a number of investors got their fingers burned. Am not sure what exactly is different this time. Is it basically not a retrenchment and a name change, i.e. a bigger restructuring than previous efforts. Hopefully this one works.
Hey had to do this 10 years ago. Pilots blocked any options back then. Let's wait and see the new contracts and procedure detail for the personnel to see if they are aligned to the current market. In my understanding they were a big part of the reason why Alitalia was a money shredder.
If the EU had not intervened to say stop, the Italian state was ready to inject another 3 billion euros in this company almost run by unions and endowed with too many staff. They refused the 2019 pay cuts when the company was already on the knees, living on state aid. The best thing ITA could do from launch isto start with a lot of new staff with fresh minds
Emmm... Is the new airline government-funded or personal (company)-funded?
Rip ailtalia last day of service is today 😔
In 2020
Were they not part of a group like IAG or KLM-AF? As a legacy carrier you have to be part of a group nowadays. It's impossible to survive otherwise.
Just curious,does anybody know why ITA's first Airbus is going to be carrying an Irish registration ?
It's one of Alitalia's aircraft that is leased from an Irish leasing company hence the EI- registration
As a car/rally enthusiast, I will always remember them from the Lancia cars
I will be flying on one of Alitalia's last flights and will post my experience on UA-cam
Again?
Yep. This time permanently
Thank goodness. Was so sick of hearing how they couldn’t figure it out.
Pity for the legendary Alitalia logo. The new ITA one is disappointing to put it politely.
ITA has trouble finding employees, they also cancelled talks with the union.
It still does sound akin to a reorganization and not a entirely new, separate entity.
I just hope they actually become profitable and not just another failure with different branding
Status Matched back in ~2016 and got Skyteam ELITE PLUS with Alitalia...
Those old good days
Didn't even know this was happening, got to say I like the new airline's livery.
Will ITA like Alitalia join the SkyTeam Aliance?
Remember flying in 2016 in Alitalia route Miami - Rome onboard A330 and 2017 Rome- JFK A330 as well ;)
😢 one of my favorite airlines is now gone
so they're getting the sabena treatment?
I mean if Alitalia couldn't wing it, what makes anyone think another flag carrier can pull it off?
They shed the debt of Alitalia, the union contracts, and buy the Alitalia assets and hire the personnel unsaddled by the contracts.
It may not work in the long run but it’s a new start.
So ITA is sort of like Alitalia 2.0 except it will start much smaller and not be bankrupt, but will acquire much more of Alitalia's planes and assets in the future. Interesting business move.
So which airline are gonna replace their flights to Heathrow?
Empty slots get auctioned I believe.. Probably an airline with deep pockets and business travellers most likely.
Image the chaos , a new newer before operating airline
My sympathy lies with the Alitalia employees who are facing an uncertain future .
What? No huge bailout from their government like Lufthansa and Air France.
They were doing that for the last decades. thats why the EU had a say in this matter.
This now will give boost to Middle eastern airlines which are dominating the Aviation sector due to their geographical presence. They will now increase the frequency to the Italian cities. Sadly, Same is the case here in India, Air India which is the country's flagship carrier is also on Ventilator.
Super annoying background music, why not just silence or something neutral?
privatisation ???
This is sad. I'd be interested in the history of its collapse. This entirely passed me by.
Same!
me too. i flew with them on my trips to Rome😥
It’s been collapsing since shortly after World War II
Me an Italian: oh I’ve heard this one before, it’s a classic
Ummm yes and no. I’m in finance. This is a classic ‘Phoenix’ move. Close the old, get rid of the unwanted including surplus and troublesome staff and unions, debt etc. Start fresh with cherry picking hiring, airplanes and routes and a clean debt slate. Classic move.
Why does he say "Anlitanlian"?
Flew them short-haul at least twice and had very pleasant experiences. Nice crews & adequately comfortable. They'll be missed. Hope the new airline joins SkyTeam.
The question I was looking in the video: Why?
Press F to pay respects, for Alitalia
F
I remember this logo from old WRC Lancia cars
TWA, PanAm and all the others: _Welcome home, sister._
Im sad,but hope the best for the new airline ,I have never flew to Itali,one day,best wishes.
How can an airline survive with so many different unions competing for power over this airline? Plus on European connections I hardly ever saw a remarkable service attitude, maybe due to the tiring effect of almost constant threat of insolvency. Let's hope that the new airline has a better future.
Flew Alitalia in Sept 2019....never again. Hopefully ITA will be a better airline and improve passenger service.
*ALITALIA =*
Always Late In Takeoff And Late In Arrival
ok
All Landed In Turin, All Luggage In Amsterdam
ITA will replace Alitalia and will ITA become a Skyteam alliance member?
Rip Alitalia, long live Alitalia
Alitalia sounds so much better than ITA. It's unfortunate that the Alitalia name and brand have been soiled beyond saving
ITA? If they are serious, they should have put in some effort to come up with a strong brandname. This is poor marketing and branding right at the start.
Moreover, an Italian airline will have it difficult. Management issues are probably built-in by design and they will never go to extents like Gulf/Middle East carriers to offer something that the markets will lap up.
I neither like the new name nor do I have high hopes for the new entity. Really sorry for all the people at Alitalia.
Will miss their latest colours they are well smart
Bye Alitalia, you Will be Remembers ❤️
I never flew on Alitalia but I'm sad to hear about them closing down.
the Alitalia that is shutting down has not been around for 74 years. It has gone through rebirths as a new company a couple of times, a new company that bought the brand name from the former bankrupt one. In some of the changes, the union that had caused the previous bankruptcy due to strike wanted to prevent the new carrier from restarting without giving in to the union's demands (arguing that by getting the Alitalia brand and buying aircraft from Alitalia creditors, the new version must inherit union contracts).
This time around, it looks ike ITA can truly start from scratch without any baggage from its previous self.
Remains to be seen how long this one lasts. And I bet that once old Alitalia is formerly disolved, the new one will start marieting its fligsht as Alitalia, albeit with different airline code.
I had booket me onboard with Alitalia the October 5 and 7 so i can say goodbey to the proud national carrier of Italia.