Ongoing Cases - If you believe you have or know any information which may help solve the cases of Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner or Lauren Cho, please get in touch with local authorities. You never know how vital one small piece of information may be. Trialling a new structure to today’s video! What do you think of this dual format? Apologies for the tired face, I had to record this one twice after the first video file corrupted haha. What do you think of the cases of Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner or Lauren Cho? See you again next Monday, folks!
I love how the father of the one murdered girl told the friend who found their bodies to get the hell out of there in case the killer was still around. Even through the shock and horror he must have been feeling his first instinct was still to be a Dad and protect that girl. He sounds like he was a very caring parent/good person
I can’t imagine the pain that man has been put through his son was shot and killed and then his daughter was murdered that’s got to be so hard on the parents😔
Kylen's dad is one treasure of a person. Not only did he notice his daughter's suicidal tendencies and pulled her out of it, his first reaction to the girls' friend discovering bodies was to immediately tell her to get out of there. Who knows, maybe it saved her life. I hope the murderer of his daughter and her wife is going to be found.
I absolutely agree with this sentiment. The only thing I may have personally done is snapped a few photographs of the crime scene that may reveal transient evidence (evidence that is temporary and may be dispersed by the environment). I agree safety is priority, but it takes a few seconds to take one or two photos. Even quick panic photos can reveal something. Still, nothing comes above the safety of the individual who is currently still breathing.
Yes, this father must actually be a very special person. And I'm so sorry for him that he lost all of his children and daughter-in-law. I hope from the bottom of my heart that he has loving people by his side.
“Seeing how they were both the same…. Human” For some reason, that hit me hard. Adrian has a great way with words and is so respectful to the victims of these horrific tales. According to Google there is still no cause of death for El as of Sept. ‘22
I gotta give Gabby’s father major props for calling out the media on their singular attention on his daughter’s disappearance. It’s understandable if a father is calling for all hands on deck to rescue his daughter, but for him to attempt to bring attention to others who are missing is very big of him. It’s a shame that the media didn’t follow through on it.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS CASE! I used to live in Moab. I knew Kylen and Crystal and they were such amazing, loving women. Sean-Paul is also an amazing father to them. Just when I thought this channel couldn't get any better. You even talked about Kylen's brother! And something about Kylen: I am a Native woman and she went out of her way to learn pieces of our language so she could greet all of us in our mother tongue. Crystal also started doing this as well. May they rest in Power!
Kylen was a treasure. I only worked with her once for a few hours a couple of years back, but she exuded reliability and strength. She was so proud of her home and the life she had for herself, she deserved every compliment we gave. I only had to meet with her once to remember her. I'm sure I was a forgettable piece in her memory, but I remember Kylen. May Kylen, Crystal, and Lauren find justice.
This is also a story of 2 great fathers. The first father who told the girl who found his daughter’s body to get out of there because the killer might still be around. Even immediately after hearing about his daughters death he still wanted to protect this girl and thought of her instead of most people who might understandably be a lot more selfish. And the 2nd father, Gabby’s dad who criticized the media for only focusing on his daughters case when there are many more missing people out there that are just as important. Which a lot of people wouldn’t do or think to say. Both of them caring about other people and everyone else shows just how great and caring they are.
Their friend Cindy who went above and beyond to search for them and then found their bodies is one true friend, also the father who warned her to leave the place asap 👍👍👍
@@LoowheezeBreeze Possibly. When she found the bodies my first thought was wow her intuition was spot on. I'm guessing the creepy guy camping next to them has been cleared and also the travel companion of the other.
It's nice that your covering cases that got drowned out during the Petito/Laundrie case. Not many true crime influencers are doing this. These victims families will thank you so much.
@@troyounce3295 spreading awareness of a case that has been buried under the weight of another is decent, regardless of whether or not he is compensated for his efforts
@@IrieRogue do you live in moab? Are you going to put in the footwork necessary to help? Are any of these subscribers going to remember this video 20 minutes from now? I don't think so.
Let's not forget that the police apparently "searched" for the ladies, yet it took their very brave and determined family friend to find them. They were right there the whole time, how come the police didn't find them if they had actuallysearched that area like they said ? 😒 this case has really stuck with me, I really hope they can find the pos that stole these two beautiful souls. ❤
I hate to say this, but I worked with parolees as a therapist and consequently I worked with MANY police officers, and parole agents...What I discovered was that the police (no matter where) absolutely do nothing unless there is a lot of public attention. I believe that the police simply get overwhelmed with how many cases of abuse, and missing persons cases that they get. None-the-less we continue to hope that the police are on it, and doing their jobs...but again, I have seen little evidence of that in over 25 years experience...
I am hoping they gave a complete description of their killer to SOMEONE! But why would LE withhold it? It makes me wonder if the killer sent that text.
Seriously! I thought the same thing. There's no way I'd be staying somewhere close to a guy that was giving me those vibes. I would have thought that would be fairly easy too, if you're living out of your van. I guess nobody wants to believe it will happen to them.
I thought the 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨! I doubt they were joking when they sent the text. Like, "LOL! Just kidding!😉" I agree - LEAVE the area a.s.a.p. if you feel creeped out enuf to spread the word! Also - text details. Person/people description. License plate, if possible. Vehicle description. WHAT is creeping you out? Don't feel bad if your description are remarks that aren't pleasant about their appearance. That's OK. It'll be important if something happens to you, or somebody else. Interesting thought: that person/people could be regulars who come to the area, or live IN the area. How sad that with zero description, local police don't have a thing to go on.
Fa real..seriously. This is just nuts. It was all right there warning signs to the 2 ladies about the wierdo. Friends were informed they could be in danger.. makes me feel like the ppl who has the ideology only white beautiful ppl get looked for. Keeps circling they were white but lesbians. The other lady was Asian. Why weren't they important enough. It hurts more to think because I'm a minority. My bffs are married lesbians. Scary to think about. I'm sorry to all the beautiful ladies this earth turned a lil darker without yall 💔💔💔
I went to high school and was in many choirs and musicals with Lauren. It feels so surreal that she went missing and has now been found dead, so unexpected. She was actually just an awesome person, and had a really fun goofy side to her. I feel so badly for her family and those who are closest to her, and I feel she should have been found sooner. I hope she is in a peaceful place.
There's alot of people that go missing in Jersey, sometimes they're bodies get found in NY some even in Massachusetts where there are still many cold cases to date .
@@howdareyouexist she mentioned how she had a relationship with her that's it. The rest is about Lauren I don't get where you're coming from other than being toxic and getting your jab in where it shouldn't be. You remind me of a bully or a big mouth,someone who needs to be told to shut up. Would you say something like that if she was speaking at her funeral. If you have anything else to say make it an apology.
Isn't it strange that there has been ZERO update on Lauren Cho since October 2021? No cause of death, no toxicology reports, no news media. It's been over a year and no answers...
after watching enough crime sci cases- no it’s not surprising. There’s stats to prove how pigs decide who is a perfect victim and worth investigating. Poc, lgbtq, different lifestyles.. it’s all too common how dehumanizing it is/ So much death is preventable.. there’s so many cases where young children and teen go missing, sometimes they immediately search but most of the time they wave it off and do absolutely nothing claiming the kid is a runway. If there’s anything about someone’s reputation, sadly cops will judge the victim more than the circumstances of their disappearance.
Please please PLEASE; if someone around you is acting suspicious and giving you the creeps and they have a vehicle- don’t just tell your friends, give them the tag number. My best friend and I aren’t even nomadic but if I feel unsafe when walking or in a parking lot I’ll quickly text her the tag number and description.
That is a good idea! Also, if someone grabs you, start screaming, kicking and scratching, and don't stop! If you're out in the wilderness, try kicking a kneecap sideways, if you connect good, they're going to have something else on their mind. I would also suggest kicking them while they're down. Too much? Oh, well, maybe you think so...but this person just ATTACKED me, and I'm not going to be nice about protecting myself. I actually did get grabbed by a guy one night, I elbowed him in the gut, stepped back, and let him see my knife. Pointing my knife at him, I said, "Leave." He did, backing up several steps before he turned and quickly walked away. I watched until he was out of sight, then went home and went to bed. It took a few days to sink in, but I realized I had remained calm and in control during the entire incident, and if I'd had to use violence, I could have. I find those things comforting, as it shows I can remain calm, react appropriately and am ready to defend myself, and if required, with bodily injury to my attacker. I've always feared freezing in a dangerous situation, but I didn't.✌😸
I think this is one of the most perfect descriptions of grief I have ever heard. It's so unexplainable as a concept and when one has not truly felt it, they do not understand it. The hole that rips open in your entire essence/world...how you spiral uncontrollably towards it at the most random moments. How uncontrollable the world seems and the terror that comes with the world not stopping and continuing unflinchingly.
Update on Kylen and Crystal! A suspect has been named...He worked at the same place as Crystal and after doing what he did, left Utah and commited auicide. I can't imagine how Sean Paul feels, having lost two of his own children, and his child's life partner 💔
I heard this as well. But what confuses me is why didn't they say his name when telling their friends that there was a creepy guy around? Since Crystal worked with him, why not name him by name when talking to friends about the creepy guy?
@@BlitzinMackGaming From reports I read they said he was a former worker at that McDonald's, perhaps he didn't work there when Crystal did? But that's a good point, he was gay as well so you would think they might know each other in a small town through those circles?
I know absolutely nothing about Lauren Cho or her case, but the ex BF needs to be checked out thoroughly. Then he should be re-checked out thoroughly. He admited they were having an argument, no one else was around, and she is found within a thousand feet of where she was last seen? I hope someone is keeping an eye on this guy.
ByeongCheol - Is it possible that after the argument, whilst Cody went to the bus to cool off, Lauren may have gone for a walk , also to cool off? Perhaps had a fall and was injured badly/fatally? How the heck she wasn't found within a 1000 feet is bewildering though. Tragic case all round.
@ByeongCheol I agree whole heartedly. It's so sad that pple feel the need or urge to take another humans life. I'll never understand. Evil lurks everywhere.
@@davidearea242 I'm not a Dr or a police person. I am however, a human. My human instinct tells me the guys story stinks. So he yells for her but does not go looking for her and yet she is found only 1,000 ft away? Hmmm just doesn't add up. I do not t believe it takes a rocket scientist.... but what do I know?
We don't know what the police have been doing, but I suspect that the boyfriend was the key suspect from the off, but without additional evidence, or a body, there is a limit to what they can do.
I’ve seen another true crimer cover Lauren, however they didn’t do her true justice. After that vid I thought Lauren went missing near the Salton Sea…not in the Yucca Valley. You did a great job of showing geographically how her body was found so close to the Air BNB. How could they have missed her? I’m wondering if she was abducted and later placed there? Just so heart breaking for these lovely people.💔
If she was planning on leaving for a walk or even for the day, she would have taken her phone, some water and food. Why did her ex call 3 friends to let them know that Lauren is missing, and then he calls the police? Wouldn't one call the police right away if they thought someone was missing? And they had an argument prior too, he just walks back into their van and suddenly she "vanishes"? That's very sus to me. Why didn't the police interview him? He seems to me like the most likely suspect. How come a gorgeous young woman like Lauren didn't get much coverage on her case especially with it having been around the same time as Gabbys dissappearance? I feel like maybe they didn't care as much with Lauren, they didn't do enough search effort, they didn't look into the suspects properly. They just did one sweep of everything and that's that. Kinda breaks my heart. No disrespect to Gabby, hope she is resting in peace, but Lauren deserved just as much media coverage as Gabby. Having looked into Lauren's case further myself, there are so many holes and unanswered questions involved in her case. Definitely a cover up of some sorts. All her family want is closure and justice and that's fair enough, they most likely would have got that if her case were spread around more. Hope they find the bastard that did this to her soon. Hope she is singing and laughing in the heavens, Rest in peace Lauren Cho ❤️💛
@@DeliriousSquid 🤦♂️🤦♂️why do you say the police didn't interview the boyfriend? He absolutely got interviewed and I'm sure he was the prime suspect for at least a time.
The picture of Lauren and her bird at 12:13 is so adorable. I can't believe she was found 1000ft within the air bnb...how did it take them so long to find her?!
More importantly, it was such a near distance she couldve easily walked back this says a few things. 1 she was murdered. 2 she was probaly dumped there or went there to cool off while the killer came from behind 3 it was probsaly Cody after finding out she got a new boyfriend
I've seen this time and again, there was one case where they found the missing guy's truck, he was 1000 yards away and despite "extensive" searches he wasn't found for 3 days.
This was well done. Kylen's dad must be an amazing human. Immediately after having his worst fears confirmed he still had the presence of mind and humanity to be concerned for the safety of the woman on the phone.
Yes- many posters noticed that, as I did. For all of the victim's families, I hope there's breakthroughs in finding the killers. Sometimes, things are happening behind the scenes ( investigation-wise ) that the public won't find out till later. Hoping for the best.
My god, I can’t imagine the sheer terror the friend of those 2 women experienced when she was running back to her car :( it’s terribly sad how there’s been multiple cases just like this one in the past few months… the idea of living a nomadic lifestyle like that is so appealing, even to me, but after the recent events, it makes me kinda wary, of that way of life, but that’s what a proper self defense weapon could turn stories like this one around.
Personally I'm more afflicted by the terror the two victims experienced. I really think the whole community needs to try to uplift and build up a channel on UA-cam and populate it that deals with missing person cases as they develop and helps get more coverage for cases the MSM seems to deem not as newsworthy. Naturally it only works if we all participate and pushing the stories as far across the internet as we can.
How unbelievably kind and unselfish of Gabby’s Father to bring awareness of others missing.. That shows you the type of wonderful parents that Gabby was brought up by.. I think it has so much to do with the quote “squeaky wheel gets the oil”.. You need to aggressively advocate for yourself, family and others to get proper attention… PRAYERS to all those affected by such tragedy and to their loved ones! I hope Justice is served ASAP!
It is so frustrating that the media does this constantly. It's all about sensationalism not news really. My heart breaks for these girls and their families. It must have been devastating to not get the help they needed. Well done Adrian, you are always so compassionate.
That’s what the news is there for, the gabbby case is still unbelievable with twists and turns. UA-cam is the only place that’s more diverse in cases than big news companies who choose stories on if it will sell not to find the victims killer
@@KatherineLaura6564 yeah the news media companies led by geriatric old people used that label as if she was already an established figure. When in reality, she just started to upload one of her vlogs. The term "UA-cam vlogger" just added fuel to the flame and unfortunately led to the case overshadowing everything else.
@@wraithreaper22 unfortunately you are right. It is so inappropriate and maddening. As far as we've come as a society we have so much further to go. 😡☹
I really respect Gabby's father for trying to bring attention to other missing people as well. It's way too easy to prioritize the situation of a public figure so much that it drowns out regular folks facing the same issue.
Gabby was not really a public figure, she had like 10 k followers, some of my friends have that...her case was well publicized because of to the police footage (btw I hope that cop who just believed Brian and implied she was the abuser even though all witnesses including the cop himself said they saw him hitting her not vice versa has sleepless nights for the rest of his life).
Here we are nearly a year after Lauren Cho's remains were found and there still isn't a resolution to her case. Toxicology reports don't take THAT long.
There been sickos like this operating like that for awhile, I remember local case where a young Asian women was assaulted and murder in a local park. Never resolved. Police chalk it up to a random thing. SMH.
as far as Lauren's case goes, I am FLOORED that she was found so close to where she disappeared, how tf was there a search of any kind done without finding her?! ugh it's so heartbreaking, both stories are. just wow, I can't believe they didn't get more coverage💔
@@tillyjames5180 This is just my speculation. It is also possible that she wandered off, got lost and died there. She wasn't found because the heat made it impossible to do so. But the theory of murdered and dumped is possible too.
I don’t believe her autopsy report has been made public yet. Hopefully it will soon, to answer whether or not Yet another murder is on the loose or heat stroke is too blame
..and when they were creeped out by him lurking around their campsite and uncomfortable with his unwanted presence, they didn't pack up and go find another location to camp because Why??
What a coward, he took the easy way out instead of doing the right thing. Usually I wouldn't say that about suicide as I too have attempted but it angers me when a criminal murders someone and then just kills themselves. I'd rather have them locked up and tortured.
It's kinda stupid, IMO, but "safety" is proportionately linked to "your instincts/observation of danger and subsequent actions". Not victim blaming, BTW, but if they felt this guy was "creepy" or dangerous, and they said they'd be murdered if they were missing, they oughtn't have remained in that spot. It's VanLIfe so it's not like they couldn't have driven to another place less secluded.
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 I agree. They were not even in the van (not that it may have been safer), bc the van was at McDonald's lot. The few times I was creeped out by someone, I overtly video recorded them and the car. One time I knew someone was clocking me on a trail where I walk my dog, and I loudly FaceTimed a friend and said " if anything happens to me, it is this guy" and I flipped the camera toward the man. The guy quickly did a 180° and started to walk the other way. Never assume that the person does not have malicious intent, especially in such a secluded environment. Even if the man was friendly, I would've been cautious.
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 I agree. I wouldn't have stayed there a minute longer if someone was giving me a creep vibe. We all know it never ends well. It's sad that women have to always be so cautious wherever we are.
Yeah it doesn't make sense all that searching and fly overs only for it to be not even 1000 feet away. Couldn't they have used dogs granted they don't get over heated to pick up her scent?
I feel so badly for each of them. Kylen and Crystal seem like they had seen dificult times and had finally found one another. They had so little time together before they were killed. Seems like Lauren was doing much the same, making her own place in the world, exploring. They all deserved so much better.
@Ms Bliss it took me quite a while to find a comment like this. Does no one else see what’s so painfully obvious? The older woman has all the hallmarks of a life on drugs.
@Chloe KM Lmao, it certainly doesn't make them stable! And some people have such fierce addictions that they will do whatever they must to get the drugs they want. The older broad looks gross af. Looks like a common meth head, tbh. Not all drug users are bad or dangerous but they certainly possess more of a potential for bad or dangerous behavior than someone who doesn't partake in drugs.
@@CasperInkyMagoo She does. I was surprised to find she was only 38 years old. I thought she was around 50, but their age difference was actually less than 14 years, which isn't so bad.
@Ms Bliss man, that is a disgusting comment on a dead person. What in the world is wrong with you? Because someone has the signs of drug usage, means they're a bad person automatically? Do you even know she WAS still using drugs by the time she got In a relationship? Do you know if she even got sober? How do you know it was a relationship based on drugs? Because seriously, you made one hell of an assumption and it was a gross one. Unless you are personal family to them, I don't think you should be saying stuff like that. G. R. O. S. S. Go fix your brain.
honestly adrian, your timing is insane. i’ve been fasting all day (for religious reasons). i was just finishing cooking and now i can enjoy this vid while eating,, this is PERFECT
Lauren worked at the tattoo/piercing place that I go to and it's so heartbreaking to see what happened and how it affected everyone at the shop. I never met her, but I remember seeing a lot of the artists pushing for an investigation to find her to be opened.
That’s most murders despite what it may seem like. Nationwide, most police don’t have a gcood homicide clearance rate. A lot of cities only solve like 20% of murder cases. It’s actually slightly abnormal to get caught. Odds that a murderer gets caught is increased when the victims family has money and/or is pretty and white. Not a racial thing but no one can argue this fact.
I just read an article about the first case, yesterday! Never heard of it before that & was so disappointed on the lack of details. So I was happy to run into this video.
@@CasperInkyMagoo not necessarily. Even if that is/was the case what’s your point? Plenty of people who do not use drugs are nomadic. It’s called traveling. Whole families live in buses.... I could go on and on. And so what if they were on drugs. Doesn’t appear that has a THING to do with their murder and as such DESERVE coVerage nd justice.
@@CasperInkyMagoo No. “Nomadic” and “van life” are the kewl terms kids use to feel like they’re doing something profound. In my early 20s me and a bunch of dudes lived in our cars. We wanted to climb as much as possible, everyday so we’d sleep at the crag…for months on end. People called us “dirtbags”. No drugs…no alcohol…just climbing, training, comradery and a WHOLE bunch of assumptions from the Karens on the outside trying to peer in. Know your role, Karen. You’re making assumptions about a group of people you’re not even knowledgeable about. Grow up.
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Good of you to draw attention to these cases. I'm in Salt Lake City, UT so this is very close to home. Also there is still NOTHING as to an update on Lauren Cho. That is upsetting.
The picture of Lauren with a sleepy parrotlet broke me - in that single picture alone, you can tell what kind of relationship she must have had with that bird. That bird has to have deeply trusted and loved her in order to nap while perched on her finger, and I can only imagine that that love and trust was mutual. If the poor thing is still alive, it must be devastated. RIP Lauren, you will be missed by human and animal alike :(
That's a good observation. Animals are so perceptive. I always think about the person's pets in these stories. Luckily most people love animals and make sure to care for them ✨
Well put, birds are especially intelligent and bond intensely with a person. When they lose their person, be it to death, another individual, another pet, even just a change in routine, they start becoming stressed, anxious, and depressed. They start feather 🪶 pulling, self mutilation, even vocalizations equal to screaming. Other species recognise those of us that are open, understanding, and trustworthy. I hope it's being cared for by someone she loved.
Great work, Adrian. Thank you for putting the spotlight on Lauren Cho's murder. Seems scary that Kylen and Crystal could have been killed by a serial killer. Hopefully he gets found, fast. Blessings to Gabby's parents for expressing their concerns that all missing people deserve to be found. Sympathies to all the families who lost their dear ones. 💞
Thank you for bringing up some of the cases that occurred in this time frame. In Canada, indigenous women go missing alarmingly often but it never gets reported to the extent that Gabby’s case was.
@@xPaulxPhoenixx Unfortunately I’m starting to believe Indigenous women of the Americas go missing at alarming rates and even more so if they don’t speak the dominant languages like English, Spanish, Portugués. For example, in Mexico, Non-Spanish speaking Indigenous women are quite literally enslaved specifically because sometimes they dont know how to read or write (bc there are hardly any schools in their villages) and that makes it harder to ask for help making them 10x more them vulnerable. It’s so sad but I really hope this epidemic stops in my lifetime🤍.
Updated; 12/05/22 on 12'th May ' 22 it is reported via Court TV with interviews local county sheriff's office & the victims relatives that a Suspect has been identified as Adam Pinkusiewicz, who was a co_worker of Crystal Turner. He apparently confessed and subsequently took his own life. He is treated as a credible suspect. Hope it's okay to post.
Thanks for posting but i find it hard to believe. Some locals are saying a certain cop in town was harassing them and feel something isnt right. Who really knows but there have been many people killed by cops and the cops pinned it on someone else and then they suddenly kill themselves.
If it were this Adam guy who Crystal new why would she not have identified him when she said there was a creepy guy around ...makes me think they did not know that person
The reports I read said that he was a former worker at that same McDonald's not that he was a co-worker, they may not have worked there at the same time.
In Lauren’s case, I wonder if her remains were out there later, after the area was searched. Just seems hard to believe that you wouldn’t find someone who was 1000 feet away from where they were last seen.
The tricky part about finding bodies in wilderness areas is that it all depends on a lot of factors. The way the sun is hitting, how well you know the area, where the person died (i.e. near a tree or around an area that's cluttered and easily crossed over by the eye), the condition of the body. But surely there would have been carrion to draw scrutiny to the area, crows and vultures make a hell of a racket when they've descended on a meal. I would consider that she was murdered, her body hidden away somewhere, and the killer panics when media attention ticks up and they pull the body and stash it by the air bnb to make it look like maybe she wandered off and committed suicide. If they were looking for her in earnest the first few days then they surely would have found her by way of carrion birds. I guarantee that area is rife with crows and vultures.
I had never heard of any of these cases, so thank you for bringing them to our attention. The media needs to give equal attention to ALL people that are missing. Prayers of healing and strength lifted for the victims' families. I hope their murderers are found and brought to justice.
Thank you, Adrian. Gabby's case is horrific but it was blown out of proportion by the Media. There are so many other terrible cases which were overshadowed. Thank you for showing us these
I remember being very confused when the case got attention. I honestly thought she was a celebrity that I never heard of bc I could not understand what made her case so exceptional.
Well done video Adrian. It really is disheartening that the media focused so much on just one case. Everyone deserves that coverage & attention to details. You’ve done a fantastic job at bringing this topic to the forefront.
I disagree with Adrian's comment about white victims getting more media coverage, in fact it's the exact opposite. The vast majority of the US media is "progressive," that is, it is extremely left wing. When a black person (say the latest school shooter last month) terrorizes a school with multiple rounds, it is kept out of the media, whereas when a white student does the same, it is in the media for weeks. When a black person (say the black man who executed a 5 year old white child while he was playing in his driveway in 2020) is arrested at the scene, and admits to what they have done, it is not in the media and if it is, it's buried quickly, with no mention of the race of the killer or victim. Where as if a white male executed a black 5 year old it would be a story on Yahoo for months (like Dylan Roof). If and black person (say the black man who recently punched a white woman in the face on the New York metro because she told him to "take a chill pill) is recorded committing the assault, it is still not in the media, and the race of the victim and attacker is never brought to light. In fact BLM is still lauded by the media as peaceful and just and career criminals like George Floyd, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin are worshipped like martyrs.
I watched this video the day it was posted and was shocked by the second story. As I was watching the video, and they showed the map, I realized I stayed in that Airbnb 9 days after the body was found. I knew NOTHING about any of it. I had never heard, or seen, anything about Lauren. It blew my mind. Once the body that was found was confirmed to me Lauren's, it appears they closed the Airbnb complex because none of the locations are available via the hosts profile anymore. Thank you for sharing this story. I feel terrible that I was so unaware.
Lauren's situation of lack of media coverage reminds me of similar situation here in Australia, 6yr old white girl goes missing and everyone is in a frenzy, while the is barely anything on a missing young indigenous boy. Sadly, found in many places.. not new 😔 Thank you for sharing these 3 women's stories, I and others appreciate it
Sadly the level of media coverage is determined by the colour/tone of your skin, it’s like that in most western countries and it is sad because at the end of the day we’re all human and all life is equally important regardless of skin colour. I liked what Gabby’s father had to say about this issue, but seems like it fell on deaf ears in the media.
And the media dare to consider themselves diverse... The story of 4 year old Cleo, I believe you are referring to was international news though, because she was found alive! It made everyone happy..
I love when True Crime channels cover unsolved cases. You never know who is out there that knows something that they don't even realize they know! Getting the story out there is so important, especially when its multiple stories in one location.
Just want to say, I have binged so many of your videos! I can see how you’ve grown as well. Something I really enjoy is that you say great things about the city of the crime, I think it is so important… so people can avoid forming biases and it reminds us, this stuff happens everywhere. I also really love your tributes to the victims at the end. It’s always so touching (I cry almost every time) and I have seen how much it means to the people who knew the victims from the comments. Both of these things just seems very thoughtful and I think your channel deserves all the success and love! Keep working hard. ❤
I had such a problem with everyone focusing ONLY on the Petito case, and got quite a bit of pushback over that opinion. I'm so glad you're covering the cases that weren't seen by so many eyes. While I'm glad the virality helped the Petito case.. Such virality can help EVERY case, and it's sad cases such as these didn't get the same potential breakthroughs.. Love your channel, hope you're doing well!
@@shayhoff7064 I watch a few True Crime videos, and got such passive aggressive replies from the creators.. I dunno, it felt like everyone was bandwagoning because it was getting views... Which is a shame even when real human people aren't behind it
@@Danigoddamnit they said nothing about them, but that’s normal for all death cases 😶 they are so focus on the vaccine shot other than the injustice crimes that happen to innocent people in a daily basis
Sounds like Cody killed Lauren. It's usually the last person who saw them alive. They argued then suddenly she vanished, and the owner of the airbnb is their friend. Not fishy or anything.
@@word42069 Nah she didn't get lost. If you look at other similar cases, it turns out the victims never left after the argument. They likely didn't find any blood evidence to convict Cody, but I bet you they will find strangulation marks on Lauren's body.
Lauren Cho’s cause of death was confirmed to be strangulation. There are no current leads on her case as of August 2022. It’s so sad to see ‘missing white girl syndrome’, it truly undercuts the urgency in cases involving POC. I hope she’s resting peacefully. Crystal and Kylen’s alleged killer was later identified as Adam Pinkusiewicz when he confessed to authorities in Utah.
It's not some made up missing white girl syndrome. Leave that sh@t for Joy(less)Reid. Gabby was a UA-camr and known quantity and the nature of her channel was mysterious disappearances. The other girls weren't widely known. There's your answer.
Geez I bet that last line gets you alot of tang. It's called sensationalism, or in modern day term going viral. Also, Adrian just did a case of near carbon copy of Gabby's that didn't get the same attention for the same reason most missing persons don't, fickleness.
It makes you realize that if you ever get enough of the creeps to text someone about it, jot down a quick description. So sad. Many people feel free in nature and close to God. Yet evil lurks...
The reason the Gabby Petito case got so much publicity and interest is because of the known activity of her boyfriend Brian Laundrie. It’s not because people thought Gabby was “more important” it’s because the facts of the case were playing out in real time with Brian returning home in her car without her, then on the run, then vanishing. It was a mystery still unfolding in the eyes of the media. That’s why. If any of these other cases had similar circumstances the same thing would have happened. The other equally tragic cases were static without any ongoing drama unfolding so they didn’t elicit the same fascination as Gabby’s case with her probable killer on the run in real time. The other cases had no leads or suspects. Nothing ongoing - nothing new to follow.
Poor Kylen's dad. He loses his son to a shooting and then his daughter. The man lost both his children, that is so sad, especially as he sounds like such an amazing person, upping sticks to help Kylen's mental state, being totally cool about her relationship with Crystal (when, even in these enlightened times a lot of parents aren't good with their child having a same sex relationship) and his first thought when her friend discovered the bodies was to warn her to get out of there in case the killer was still present somewhere. On the face of it Kylen and Crystal seemed an unlikely pair but they found true love with each other and had many good, fun and happy years stolen from them by some shitbag that's still out there somewhere. Let's hope it's not for much longer. As for Lauren, how could she have been less than 350 yards from the airBnB for all that time without somebody finding her. It does explani why she had no phone, money or water with her, she had clearly not intended to go very far and didn't. Maybe the autopsy will shed some light, maybe she tripped and fell, knocked herself out and died of exposure while unconscious. Hopefully her final moments weren't filled with fear whilst facing a killer but only time will tell.
It’s people like u that help get these victims stories out! I think it’s sad the police didn’t even try but that seems to happen more often now! Thank u for sharing I’ve not heard about these girls ! I’m praying these families one day find Justice for these beautiful young woman!
"There's a super creepy guy at the campsite who's been lurking around our tent and intimidating us. If anything happens to us, we were murdered" And you GO BACK TO STAY at that campsite??? Not a f*cking chance in hell
@@Derfinater I didn't say it was smart, but blaming the victims like that is a shitty thing to do imo. Also side note, it's very easy to say after the fact what a dumb idea it was to go back to the campsite, but there's no chance they (or anyone else in their situation) could have known that the creepy guy would end up murdering both of them.
Thank you Adrian. You, Mike from That Chapter and Giles from Monsters are the three crime channels I HAVE TO WATCH...I love your work, and you have a beautiful way of telling these tragic stories. Thank you for the vivid imagery your story telling invokes and for how you always respect the victims... Love your channel so much xx
I'm also a big fan of That Chapter. There are several other good crime channels, like Disturban and the Crime Reel (who has cases from the mid 1800's to the mid 1900's, generally speaking), Crimeatoreum (although this one does have video's on a regular basis). I'm not familiar with Monsters, so I'll check that out.
@@marleennijland4244 Monsters is absolutely awesome.... Very gruff biker guy called Giles doing it... He curses.... Get the fk outta here and the likes... But I absolutely love him. Adrian, Mike and Giles are all very different in how they approach and present their work, but I love the 3 of them so much :)
I've watched and read so many things about the first couple and so few sources ever mention their poor pet rabbit. Thankfully she was left alone by the killer, but the police just treated her as part of the crime scene instead of a sentient being and left her at the crime scene for days. She's now being taken care of properly.
Not even a thousand feet from where she was staying, just like Gabby was found about a thousand feet from where the van was sighted. There are so many of these people that go missing and yet are found deceased so close to where they went missing from. It makes you wonder how are these searches done. Even Brian's remains were found within several thousand feet of where the cadaver dogs were running. But they did not find him! Prayers and blessings to the families of these three young women that had so much potential!
It’s cause of how the radius of a circle contributes towards area, a 1km radius is a big ass circle and it’s a lot of ground to cover, but I agree I personally think in any investigation a certain radius should be searched thoroughly thoroughly
Brian Laundrie's remains were also completely submerged when the search initially covered the area, and they DID find Gabby very soon after the sighting of the van was reported. The last message sent from her phone said they were in Yosemite and by the time anyone knew she was missing the van was obviously not there so I don't know what your point is. Up until the coincidental sighting and video of the van was reported, they certainly didn't have a 1000 ft radius to start from. Honestly your sense of space and geography sucks and you are insulting the good people who search for missing persons.
Maybe this will help you wrap your mind around it: a circle with a 1000ft radius is over *72 ACRES.* If you believe you would do a better job of efficiently coordinating a search over 72 acres of desert during the summer then quit criticizing the people actually making the effort and share your magic solution.
"She started dating again, but Cody didn't know who" makes me super sus of Cody. I would bet my entire savings account she thought they were good friends, and he thought they could get back together after spending time together nomad style, so he went into a murderous rage when he found out she was seeing someone new. Someone that wasn't him. Also makes sense how the body was so close and never found. Cody hid it well, and since we don't know how the police found the body, either he confessed, told someone, or someone else somehow managed to find the body.
He certainly has a motive. It doesn't help that these remote police depts, not being under such close scrutiny as the bigger city departments, can become corrupt and nobody is none the wiser. Maybe Cody is related to one of the officers, who knows?
So beautifully presented. I believe the ex-boyfriend will be the one answering to the reasons behind this amazing and vivacious lady's death. Sadly I have a terrible feeling she likely met a very similar fate as Gabby. It's highly unlikely she would wonder off without her phone, as it's a contact, entertainment and time piece in this day & age. As for the beautiful couple, someone has seen an opportunity and taken advantage of the solitude. Here's hoping they tell someone, or mess up and are caught very soon. May these women now be at peace and surrounded by love and light. X
In Lauren’s case I think it’s clearly the ex boyfriend she was travelling with. He’d just split up with her ten found out she was dating someone else. There was no one else out there. No woman walks away into the wilderness without a phone etc, it’s the first thing she’d pick up so she could contact her girl friends after the argument.
But wouldn't the other people staying at the airbnb have seen the 2 of them walk off together? With all that open land, it would be hard to just walk off and not be seen. He only went to the bus for 10 minutes at 3pm and then began calling out for her. He called 3 friends and then reported her missing at 5pm. I don't know, doesn't seem suspicious to me. That's a pretty quick reaction from going missing to calling friends and police. Especially if he had killed her only 1000 feet away, I doubt he'd call police so quickly.
Her father is an incredible man. Helping her start a new life in a new town to help with her depression and having the presence of mind to tell the girl who found them to leave the area is amazing.
Just notice something: the date on which Kylen and Crystal went missing (16 August 2021) was the same day on which you uploaded the case of Mollie Tibbetts, another young woman who went missing and with a devastating end. Terrible tragedies in our society. Prayers to all their families
it always really bothers me how the media focuses on single cases like Gabby, EVERYONE is of equal importance, people shouldn’t be given more airtime… i can’t imagine being a parent of another child that went missing at the same time, the pain they must go through seeing another child get all of the media coverage and so little for their own child… we need to be better
As nice as it would be for everyone to get equal coverage, it's simply not physically possible. There were 540,000 people reported missing in 2020. If every one of them got equal coverage each person would only get 1 minute for their story and they would have to run stories 24/7 without pause or commercials. That leaves no time for real meaningful coverage anyways much less funding to be able to run stories.
How do you propose being better? Most people are dealing with life happening to them too. Raising children, dealing with making a living, people have medical conditions and problems of their own. There's little to no information to cover many of these cases. Nice sentiment, difficult in practice.
Yeah, I heard "The HOLE" and thought it sounded creepy, but maybe just meant to be ironic. Once I realized it's "The Whole" I got some Jonestown vibes. Come for the b&b, stay for the cult!
The Whole as in The Hole. Meaning they probably have an underground bunker hidden beneath the property. I mean if you were doing ritual sacrifices what better place than in the desert with a tiny ass population. Reminds of of True Detective tbh.
I like how you made Bombay Beach look like a normal beach. It isn't. It's part of a lake, located in a BAD part of town and is littered and and disgusting. People who hang out at Bombay Beach are typically homeless individuals with drug habits (artists and other bohemian creatives). Those that don't stick around go to Slab City across the way. That's an even WORSE part of town. I'm a local. I know.
Oh hey, another desert dweller! 👋 I’m surprised he didn’t explain that the Salton Sea and Bombay Beach aren’t just littered, but are literally rotting and destroying air quality in the local area. Nothing can even survive in the water, the whole beach is littered with fish and animal bones, and that SMELL…. I also find it really funny how a large portion of the “bohemian” / “artsy” people have really normal, even privileged backgrounds. They’re choosing to live in squalor for the “aesthetic” or something. Other residents are genuinely struggling with addiction and homelessness, but a lot of these people could just call their parents and all of it would be fixed for them.
@@peachylady Do you mean me or the narrator? Cause I live in Coachella and work for the County of Riverside, which is next to it.....and I've done sooooo many searches for clients in that area "as they have an artys experience" (tripping balls) out in the 120 degree weather.
Thank you for this report. I am flabbergasted at how many people disappear either with no trace or later found dead in an area that apparently wasn't searched! Along with that, it is very troubling that so few police get involved at the beginning when the possibility of solving the case is probably best. I can't help but feel this is the reason why so many disappearances are ever solved!
Thank you so much for bringing attention to the _many_ other cases that were overlooked during the Gabby Petito/Brian search. Their lives mattered just as much as Gabby's, and it honestly makes me mad to think that the media all but ignored them. Rest In Peace Kaylen, Crystal and Lauren 💔
It's a sad case but what about the delani the black man was found in the water. They show a lot of white people on the news but black people are always disregarded his life mattered too
There was a lot of help from the Van Life Community and became such a social media search in that community as well which offered a lot of help to Gabby Petito because she was a blogger with that community and generally posted daily but then it stopped. I give that a lot of credit to her case, but we have loads of people that they go missing that the media don't cover a lot and should be more of I agree. As a community of people, it's good that we get involved and push for more coverage for everyone. It upsets me about these two women as I read the LE searched their vehicle or camp and found drug products so they just let it go as involvement to drugs, like WTH. Prayers to their families as this is devasting.
The reason Gabby Petito’s murder took such spotlight is because she vlogged on UA-cam and there were so many witness testimonies and videos from police and security cameras. Plus it doesn’t help that her boyfriend drove all the way home and ran into the Everglades to die. That story was wild from start to finish, and we all had front-row seats to it.
She wasn’t even an influencer really (she had less than 1000 followers before her death), but the way she was portrayed as one, certainly made it more popular because so many women aspire to be one, and it’s a catchy title. Add to that the police video where she fought with Brian and they were broken up, and the speed at which she was considered missing, it was perfect for TV. Millions of women see themselves in her. They projected their own abusive relationships onto that police video, so they flocked to Facebook and Reddit to speculate and invent scenarios. It was an absolute shitshow.
As another person said. Her parents were rich white ppl and had more resources and she was a white girl. Id have never heard of these sad cases if it wasn't for this video nor lovelyti. Theres also other black ppl missing as well and Asian but media/cops only cares for this. It's really sad for all cases though. I just hate the media for this
Thank you for doing this case! I live in Utah and I was really upset that this didn't get more media coverage. Moab is a BEAUTIFUL town, surrounded by BEAUTIFUL country. That such horrible things happened there is horrific to me, and it's so close to where I live. I hope they find who did this.
You are the voice of those who can’t speak themselves anymore and I love and respect this side of your channel so much. It’s not just empty entertainment.
It's absolutely beautiful that you brought attention to these stories. Gabbi's disappearance was the most talked about thing on all platforms for a while, but other people go missing and are killed, and they deserve to be talked about too. As you said, they're all the same: human. Thank you for making this video.
Gabby's case was more viral because she was an influencer with a pretty impressive fan base and had far more evidence to lead authorities to her killer. Rest in peace to all these women.
Gabbi didn't really have as big of a following as some people are making it out to be. It was only like, 10k followers, which is a lot of people, but not even close to being a major influencer.
@@Commenter839but that's an actual fan base, which the others did not have. Im not saying they don't deserve equal justice. Im just pointing out how information spreads.
I'm from the area Lauren went missing and unfortunately people go missing out here all the time. The location of the Airbnb is right on the edge to the national park and it's so easy to get lost there. On top of being lost, people underestimate how quickly they can die from dehydration. I'm not saying there was no foul play in that case but that's probably a reason why I only heard about it through my community and not on national headlines.
I can’t stand his weird little head and his voice lol. I keep trying so hard to enjoy his videos, but something about him throws me off. He seems very disingenuous and kind of creepy.
I think alot of what made Gabby's case so viral is that she was already a popular youtube with a strong following. When anything happens to an online figure they will always get the most media attention and google searches compared to someone who is not. It's sad and I truly wish that Lauren had gotten the widespread media coverage she deserved.
Thank you Adrian for bringing these 2 overlooked cases to the attention of your global community. With all my heart I hope the perpetrators will be discovered and brought to justice. Your compassion and gift in empathising with the families of victims of such horrendous crimes sets you apart from other true crime channels.
Ive never been so happy to see anyone uploaded!! Thank you for covering this and keeping it about the victims and not just talking about their stories. Really appreciate your effort putting into this. My heart goes to the victims’ family as well.
I think Gabbys case got more attention because it was well documented with a clear suspect who was on the run. There was simply more clues to talk about over a longer period of time.
Thousands of missing persons cases are just like hers: well-documented with a very obvious suspect in hiding. No missing person case has gotten that much coverage in probably at least a decade. There have even been plenty of missing kids that never got even a fraction of the coverage despite that "tugging at the heartstrings" more. There's no real explanation for why her case got such ridiculous coverage (at least that I've been able to find that doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory). Very odd situation.
II disagree with Adrian's comment about white victims getting more media coverage, in fact it's the exact opposite. The vast majority of the US media is "progressive," that is, it is extremely left wing. When a black person (say the latest school shooter last month) terrorizes a school with multiple rounds, it is kept out of the media, whereas when a white student does the same, it is in the media for weeks. When a black person (say the black man who executed a 5 year old white child while he was playing in his driveway in 2020) is arrested at the scene, and admits to what they have done, it is not in the media and if it is, it's buried quickly, with no mention of the race of the killer or victim. Where as if a white male executed a black 5 year old it would be a story on Yahoo for months (like Dylan Roof). If and black person (say the black man who recently punched a white woman in the face on the New York metro because she told him to "take a chill pill") is recorded committing the assault, it is still not in the media, and the race of the victim and attacker is never brought to light. In fact BLM is still lauded by the media as peaceful and just and career criminals like George Floyd, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin are worshipped like martyrs.
@@johnq.random1496 true, but white girls will always get more coverage if the case is a female (and prob) male victim of a crime. But white racists get more negative coverage than black racists It is what it is
Get less attention? I've heard a ton about Schulte case. There are over 20,000 homicides in the US every year. The media can't give extensive coverage to each one. Quit looking for a reason to be outraged.
Ikr. I am huge fan of true crime and I watch it all the time in UA-cam, but sadly this is the first time I hear about this case and as far as I know Adrian is the only one who has covered it. It sad ti know how many cases get little or no attention and coverage. It is so unfair.
Gabby already had a social media following and the videos from Moab got everyone interested in her case. It doesn't mean anyone else was less important ffs 🙄
I think it's sad when some cases get a ton of media coverage while others barely get any. So heartbreaking that Kylen finally found happiness & love. Kylen & Crystal looked so in love & happy then to be brutally murdered. My heart breaks for Kylens dad to loose his son then his daughter. I don't know if I could go on. Sending him lots of love❤My heart also goes out to Cindy. She'll have those images buried into her brain for the rest of her life. I really hope that she's getting the help she needs. The fact that Lauren had the guts to walk away from a stable life to go out there & make a new life for herself is amazing. Many people would be too scared to do that. I love that Gaby's dad brought attention to thae fact that these women's stories are also just as important. I hope that Kylen Crystal & Lauren their families & friends will get the justice they deserve. Thank you Adrian for bringing attention to these cases❤
Blame the media for picking and choosing what gets attention. They are the problem these days, nothing they say is accurate and always bias. Start searching these types of cases on your own if your interested. It's a waste of time waiting for the news to tell actually kinda sad people need the news to even tell them thing when we have internet.
@@Dhw997 I agree. 4 months ago I lost my boyfriend of 15yrs to a hit & run. It was all over the news & they got a ton of info wrong. One news report said it was a one person accident & some them got some info right. Just really really hope the police find the pos who took his life & destroyed mine. So I definitely have experience in this. And it's so heartbreaking.
There are over 20,000 homicides in the US each year. Do you expect round the clock coverage to be given to each one? Quit looking for a reason to be outraged.
Thank you so much for giving coverage to lesser known cases. Per usual, this channel is just absolutely beautifully tragic in delivery and i love how you humanize these victims. I hope all three of these women are in a better place, and that answers will be provided to their families soon.
Your compassion and the beautiful way you deliver the stories you cover are refreshing and inspiring. Thank you for caring about those lives that do matter. You’re a beautiful soul.
And those guys that were her friends made it out to be that they looked everywhere and all night for her. There’s no way they couldn’t have seen her back in June. Something is off
@PeRFeCT IMPeRFeCTiON that’s my thoughts too. I just can’t base facts on what just these guys have said and their timeline. People lie all the time and it’s hard for me to just trust these men’s words
Knowing that area fairly well, (Bombay Beach, Yucca Valley) I kept up with Lauren Chos story. As one comment said, It seems very, very odd that she was found so close to the AirBnB. The areas out there are wide open... The area she was found was easy to see from ground or air. Still following up on her case. Extremely... Unreal. Another exceptionally well done video. Thank you for bring attention to people who need it.
And she was last seen in a bright yellow shirt and the guys say there was a 10 minute window before they looked for her all night there. Doesn’t really make sense at all that she wasn’t found sooner
@@hushingsilence I’ve been trying to find a lot of different info about Lauren’s case. If you have a Instagram there’s someone called dumpster lemonade who has more info than anyone I’ve seen. It’s actually crazy
I really love that you're covering lesser known cases, it's both interesting and great for getting the word out about cases most of us would have never heard of.
Ongoing Cases - If you believe you have or know any information which may help solve the cases of Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner or Lauren Cho, please get in touch with local authorities. You never know how vital one small piece of information may be.
Trialling a new structure to today’s video! What do you think of this dual format? Apologies for the tired face, I had to record this one twice after the first video file corrupted haha.
What do you think of the cases of Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner or Lauren Cho?
See you again next Monday, folks!
After a few videos.. I'm finally on time..!!
Great video, the dual story was well done. I think this would be a good format for smaller cases
@@ankitachandravansi5958 im still late af always 🤣
Can you get a speech coach? You speak so slow, like your audience is Boomers.
I love this format
I love how the father of the one murdered girl told the friend who found their bodies to get the hell out of there in case the killer was still around. Even through the shock and horror he must have been feeling his first instinct was still to be a Dad and protect that girl. He sounds like he was a very caring parent/good person
I can’t imagine the pain that man has been put through his son was shot and killed and then his daughter was murdered that’s got to be so hard on the parents😔
@@Stinger9516
Absolutely unfathomable.
@@Stinger9516 my goodness! I do not believe but may all blessings come his way…. Strong human….
@ashley Bravo for pointing that (morbid) fact. It makes this whole case so much…. Why? Questions in our short lives… rest in piece Kyla
I agree, that was absolutely a solid move on his part.
Kylen's dad is one treasure of a person. Not only did he notice his daughter's suicidal tendencies and pulled her out of it, his first reaction to the girls' friend discovering bodies was to immediately tell her to get out of there. Who knows, maybe it saved her life. I hope the murderer of his daughter and her wife is going to be found.
his mental/logic in that situation is truly incredible. I learned something.
@@xgunnas32 yes, i wouldn't have thought about that!
I absolutely agree with this sentiment. The only thing I may have personally done is snapped a few photographs of the crime scene that may reveal transient evidence (evidence that is temporary and may be dispersed by the environment). I agree safety is priority, but it takes a few seconds to take one or two photos. Even quick panic photos can reveal something. Still, nothing comes above the safety of the individual who is currently still breathing.
Yes, this father must actually be a very special person.
And I'm so sorry for him that he lost all of his children and daughter-in-law. I hope from the bottom of my heart that he has loving people by his side.
Yes, I felt that too. He sounds like one hell of a good father and friend. Losing his daughter and her wife so awfully must have torn him apart.
“Seeing how they were both the same….
Human”
For some reason, that hit me hard.
Adrian has a great way with words and is so respectful to the victims of these horrific tales.
According to Google there is still no cause of death for El as of Sept. ‘22
I gotta give Gabby’s father major props for calling out the media on their singular attention on his daughter’s disappearance. It’s understandable if a father is calling for all hands on deck to rescue his daughter, but for him to attempt to bring attention to others who are missing is very big of him. It’s a shame that the media didn’t follow through on it.
he and the petitos actually went a step further and have already started an organization to help find missing people: the gabby petito foundation
How is a connection between all 5 or 6 cases ruled as unrelated? I hear rumors of a man's body found recently as well.
Well said, I agree 🙏🏽
I feel like it's because Gabby was a social media influencer who already had quite the following.
Deep down (as much as I absolutely hate to believe the world is like this) I think it has to do with gabby being an attractive blonde girl
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS CASE! I used to live in Moab.
I knew Kylen and Crystal and they were such amazing, loving women. Sean-Paul is also an amazing father to them.
Just when I thought this channel couldn't get any better. You even talked about Kylen's brother!
And something about Kylen:
I am a Native woman and she went out of her way to learn pieces of our language so she could greet all of us in our mother tongue. Crystal also started doing this as well. May they rest in Power!
This made me smile. They sounded like beautiful people.
Thank you for sharing a beautiful story.
I'm so sorry for your loss, as well as the world's loss of two beautiful souls.
You're a $5
Kylen was a treasure. I only worked with her once for a few hours a couple of years back, but she exuded reliability and strength. She was so proud of her home and the life she had for herself, she deserved every compliment we gave. I only had to meet with her once to remember her. I'm sure I was a forgettable piece in her memory, but I remember Kylen. May Kylen, Crystal, and Lauren find justice.
Damn it’s sad that this happens to good people, hopefully the killer is brought to justice
This is also a story of 2 great fathers. The first father who told the girl who found his daughter’s body to get out of there because the killer might still be around. Even immediately after hearing about his daughters death he still wanted to protect this girl and thought of her instead of most people who might understandably be a lot more selfish.
And the 2nd father, Gabby’s dad who criticized the media for only focusing on his daughters case when there are many more missing people out there that are just as important. Which a lot of people wouldn’t do or think to say. Both of them caring about other people and everyone else shows just how great and caring they are.
Their friend Cindy who went above and beyond to search for them and then found their bodies is one true friend, also the father who warned her to leave the place asap 👍👍👍
Or she's the killer...
@ LoowheezeBreeze 😳
@@LoowheezeBreeze Possibly. When she found the bodies my first thought was wow her intuition was spot on. I'm guessing the creepy guy camping next to them has been cleared and also the travel companion of the other.
It's nice that your covering cases that got drowned out during the Petito/Laundrie case. Not many true crime influencers are doing this. These victims families will thank you so much.
Why would they thank him? Thank you for making money off of our misery? Are you being intentionally dense?
@@troyounce3295 spreading awareness of a case that has been buried under the weight of another is decent, regardless of whether or not he is compensated for his efforts
There isn’t any info to cover beyond what we already know. Which is very sad but that’s why it wasn’t covered more.
@@IrieRogue do you live in moab? Are you going to put in the footwork necessary to help? Are any of these subscribers going to remember this video 20 minutes from now? I don't think so.
@@troyounce3295 thanking him for brining our attention to their loved one. Imagine losing family and nobody cares or knows.
Let's not forget that the police apparently "searched" for the ladies, yet it took their very brave and determined family friend to find them. They were right there the whole time, how come the police didn't find them if they had actuallysearched that area like they said ? 😒 this case has really stuck with me, I really hope they can find the pos that stole these two beautiful souls. ❤
@@AFDM007 the coward offed his self
@@evagilkerson2288 cowards tend to do that instead of accept or face consequences.
Police are the ones doing the killing.
sorry, at the end of the video another name is mentioned, emilly. Does anybody know who is emilly?I thought 4 were the victims in this video not 5.
I hate to say this, but I worked with parolees as a therapist and consequently I worked with MANY police officers, and parole agents...What I discovered was that the police (no matter where) absolutely do nothing unless there is a lot of public attention. I believe that the police simply get overwhelmed with how many cases of abuse, and missing persons cases that they get. None-the-less we continue to hope that the police are on it, and doing their jobs...but again, I have seen little evidence of that in over 25 years experience...
If you’re sending texts that say “if something happens to us, we were murdered.” It might be a good idea to pack up and leave. So sad. RIP ladies.
I am hoping they gave a complete description of their killer to SOMEONE! But why would LE withhold it? It makes me wonder if the killer sent that text.
Seriously! I thought the same thing. There's no way I'd be staying somewhere close to a guy that was giving me those vibes. I would have thought that would be fairly easy too, if you're living out of your van.
I guess nobody wants to believe it will happen to them.
I thought the 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨! I doubt they were joking when they sent the text. Like, "LOL! Just kidding!😉"
I agree - LEAVE the area a.s.a.p. if you feel creeped out enuf to spread the word!
Also - text details. Person/people description. License plate, if possible. Vehicle description. WHAT is creeping you out? Don't feel bad if your description are remarks that aren't pleasant about their appearance. That's OK. It'll be important if something happens to you, or somebody else.
Interesting thought: that person/people could be regulars who come to the area, or live IN the area. How sad that with zero description, local police don't have a thing to go on.
Fa real..seriously. This is just nuts. It was all right there warning signs to the 2 ladies about the wierdo. Friends were informed they could be in danger.. makes me feel like the ppl who has the ideology only white beautiful ppl get looked for. Keeps circling they were white but lesbians. The other lady was Asian. Why weren't they important enough. It hurts more to think because I'm a minority. My bffs are married lesbians. Scary to think about. I'm sorry to all the beautiful ladies this earth turned a lil darker without yall 💔💔💔
agree listen to your instincts
I went to high school and was in many choirs and musicals with Lauren. It feels so surreal that she went missing and has now been found dead, so unexpected. She was actually just an awesome person, and had a really fun goofy side to her. I feel so badly for her family and those who are closest to her, and I feel she should have been found sooner. I hope she is in a peaceful place.
There's alot of people that go missing in Jersey, sometimes they're bodies get found in NY some even in Massachusetts where there are still many cold cases to date .
We all hope that justice comes soon for Lauren and all the others... Adrian has done a fantastic job putting her story out there.
way to make it about you
@@howdareyouexist she mentioned how she had a relationship with her that's it. The rest is about Lauren I don't get where you're coming from other than being toxic and getting your jab in where it shouldn't be. You remind me of a bully or a big mouth,someone who needs to be told to shut up. Would you say something like that if she was speaking at her funeral. If you have anything else to say make it an apology.
@@putzycockle i wasnt talking to you bub so stay out of it
Isn't it strange that there has been ZERO update on Lauren Cho since October 2021? No cause of death, no toxicology reports, no news media. It's been over a year and no answers...
the guy who killed them, killed himself.. they found him through dna but he was already gone.
@@jamesroberts7262 link?
alright, after doing some sleuthing around her case... i think theyre building a new case for lauren.
They may have asked the media for privacy. Or they stoppes caring
after watching enough crime sci cases- no it’s not surprising. There’s stats to prove how pigs decide who is a perfect victim and worth investigating. Poc, lgbtq, different lifestyles.. it’s all too common how dehumanizing it is/ So much death is preventable.. there’s so many cases where young children and teen go missing, sometimes they immediately search but most of the time they wave it off and do absolutely nothing claiming the kid is a runway. If there’s anything about someone’s reputation, sadly cops will judge the victim more than the circumstances of their disappearance.
Please please PLEASE; if someone around you is acting suspicious and giving you the creeps and they have a vehicle- don’t just tell your friends, give them the tag number. My best friend and I aren’t even nomadic but if I feel unsafe when walking or in a parking lot I’ll quickly text her the tag number and description.
That is a good idea! Also, if someone grabs you, start screaming, kicking and scratching, and don't stop! If you're out in the wilderness, try kicking a kneecap sideways, if you connect good, they're going to have something else on their mind. I would also suggest kicking them while they're down. Too much? Oh, well, maybe you think so...but this person just ATTACKED me, and I'm not going to be nice about protecting myself. I actually did get grabbed by a guy one night, I elbowed him in the gut, stepped back, and let him see my knife. Pointing my knife at him, I said, "Leave." He did, backing up several steps before he turned and quickly walked away. I watched until he was out of sight, then went home and went to bed.
It took a few days to sink in, but I realized I had remained calm and in control during the entire incident, and if I'd had to use violence, I could have. I find those things comforting, as it shows I can remain calm, react appropriately and am ready to defend myself, and if required, with bodily injury to my attacker. I've always feared freezing in a dangerous situation, but I didn't.✌😸
or how about leaving the area if a creep is there. i wouldnt stay if a bear was in the area
That a good idea I'm going to tell my daughters that. I couldn't imagine losing them the world is a sad place
@@HenningBoerstad that's exactly what I'd do if I see a creep nearby.
@@HenningBoerstad sometimes the creep is in a grocery store parking lot 🤷♀️
"The depths of our collective sorrow feels endless, as grief demands space for its accompanying emptiness." That's beautiful, and so very true.
It is incredibly powerful. As a writer myself, it's felt deeply.
@Over It meh that’s debatable
I think this is one of the most perfect descriptions of grief I have ever heard. It's so unexplainable as a concept and when one has not truly felt it, they do not understand it. The hole that rips open in your entire essence/world...how you spiral uncontrollably towards it at the most random moments. How uncontrollable the world seems and the terror that comes with the world not stopping and continuing unflinchingly.
@Over It That's not the definition of "word salad". Has nothing to do with depth.
Update on Kylen and Crystal! A suspect has been named...He worked at the same place as Crystal and after doing what he did, left Utah and commited auicide.
I can't imagine how Sean Paul feels, having lost two of his own children, and his child's life partner 💔
I heard this as well. But what confuses me is why didn't they say his name when telling their friends that there was a creepy guy around? Since Crystal worked with him, why not name him by name when talking to friends about the creepy guy?
@@BlitzinMackGaming From reports I read they said he was a former worker at that McDonald's, perhaps he didn't work there when Crystal did? But that's a good point, he was gay as well so you would think they might know each other in a small town through those circles?
Any truth to this ?
@@BlitzinMackGamingOne article I read claimed that he was let go prior to her starting there and could have blamed her for taking his job.
I know absolutely nothing about Lauren Cho or her case, but the ex BF needs to be checked out thoroughly. Then he should be re-checked out thoroughly. He admited they were having an argument, no one else was around, and she is found within a thousand feet of where she was last seen? I hope someone is keeping an eye on this guy.
Byeong I agree
Cody needs to be looked at. Big time. The authorities dropped the ball on this case. Sloppy investigating.
ByeongCheol - Is it possible that after the argument, whilst Cody went to the bus to cool off, Lauren may have gone for a walk , also to cool off? Perhaps had a fall and was injured badly/fatally? How the heck she wasn't found within a 1000 feet is bewildering though. Tragic case all round.
@ByeongCheol I agree whole heartedly. It's so sad that pple feel the need or urge to take another humans life. I'll never understand. Evil lurks everywhere.
@@davidearea242 I'm not a Dr or a police person. I am however, a human. My human instinct tells me the guys story stinks. So he yells for her but does not go looking for her and yet she is found only 1,000 ft away? Hmmm just doesn't add up.
I do not t believe it takes a rocket scientist.... but what do I know?
We don't know what the police have been doing, but I suspect that the boyfriend was the key suspect from the off, but without additional evidence, or a body, there is a limit to what they can do.
I’ve seen another true crimer cover Lauren, however they didn’t do her true justice. After that vid I thought Lauren went missing near the Salton Sea…not in the Yucca Valley. You did a great job of showing geographically how her body was found so close to the Air BNB. How could they have missed her? I’m wondering if she was abducted and later placed there? Just so heart breaking for these lovely people.💔
Rachel Shannon did a good video on Lauren.
Who would abduct her in the middle of nowhere. Had to be someone there already or someone she told where she was going specifically.
@@truth4004 the boyfriend...
If she was planning on leaving for a walk or even for the day, she would have taken her phone, some water and food. Why did her ex call 3 friends to let them know that Lauren is missing, and then he calls the police? Wouldn't one call the police right away if they thought someone was missing? And they had an argument prior too, he just walks back into their van and suddenly she "vanishes"? That's very sus to me. Why didn't the police interview him? He seems to me like the most likely suspect. How come a gorgeous young woman like Lauren didn't get much coverage on her case especially with it having been around the same time as Gabbys dissappearance? I feel like maybe they didn't care as much with Lauren, they didn't do enough search effort, they didn't look into the suspects properly. They just did one sweep of everything and that's that. Kinda breaks my heart. No disrespect to Gabby, hope she is resting in peace, but Lauren deserved just as much media coverage as Gabby. Having looked into Lauren's case further myself, there are so many holes and unanswered questions involved in her case. Definitely a cover up of some sorts. All her family want is closure and justice and that's fair enough, they most likely would have got that if her case were spread around more. Hope they find the bastard that did this to her soon.
Hope she is singing and laughing in the heavens, Rest in peace Lauren Cho ❤️💛
@@DeliriousSquid 🤦♂️🤦♂️why do you say the police didn't interview the boyfriend? He absolutely got interviewed and I'm sure he was the prime suspect for at least a time.
The picture of Lauren and her bird at 12:13 is so adorable. I can't believe she was found 1000ft within the air bnb...how did it take them so long to find her?!
More importantly, it was such a near distance she couldve easily walked back this says a few things. 1 she was murdered. 2 she was probaly dumped there or went there to cool off while the killer came from behind 3 it was probsaly Cody after finding out she got a new boyfriend
I've seen this time and again, there was one case where they found the missing guy's truck, he was 1000 yards away and despite "extensive" searches he wasn't found for 3 days.
Laziness
This was well done. Kylen's dad must be an amazing human. Immediately after having his worst fears confirmed he still had the presence of mind and humanity to be concerned for the safety of the woman on the phone.
Yes- many posters noticed that, as I did. For all of the victim's families, I
hope there's breakthroughs in finding the killers. Sometimes, things are
happening behind the scenes ( investigation-wise ) that the public won't
find out till later. Hoping for the best.
So now basic humanity is deemed "amazing".
That's disturbing.
Could u imagine how scary that would be as the friend knowin the killer could just be lurking still
My god, I can’t imagine the sheer terror the friend of those 2 women experienced when she was running back to her car :( it’s terribly sad how there’s been multiple cases just like this one in the past few months… the idea of living a nomadic lifestyle like that is so appealing, even to me, but after the recent events, it makes me kinda wary, of that way of life, but that’s what a proper self defense weapon could turn stories like this one around.
It’s not all it’s cracked up to be. You’re better off trying to find the continuum transfunctioner again.
Recent events? This has literally always happened.
Be safe out there , pack a gun and have a big dog or 2. R. I. P. Ladies
Personally I'm more afflicted by the terror the two victims experienced. I really think the whole community needs to try to uplift and build up a channel on UA-cam and populate it that deals with missing person cases as they develop and helps get more coverage for cases the MSM seems to deem not as newsworthy. Naturally it only works if we all participate and pushing the stories as far across the internet as we can.
@@darktheories1758 True, don’t get me wrong, I feel for them too, but it is what it is, I just got the heebie jeebies after hearing that.
How unbelievably kind and unselfish of Gabby’s Father to bring awareness of others missing.. That shows you the type of wonderful parents that Gabby was brought up by.. I think it has so much to do with the quote “squeaky wheel gets the oil”.. You need to aggressively advocate for yourself, family and others to get proper attention… PRAYERS to all those affected by such tragedy and to their loved ones! I hope Justice is served ASAP!
It is so frustrating that the media does this constantly. It's all about sensationalism not news really. My heart breaks for these girls and their families. It must have been devastating to not get the help they needed. Well done Adrian, you are always so compassionate.
That’s what the news is there for, the gabbby case is still unbelievable with twists and turns. UA-cam is the only place that’s more diverse in cases than big news companies who choose stories on if it will sell not to find the victims killer
@@KatherineLaura6564 yeah the news media companies led by geriatric old people used that label as if she was already an established figure. When in reality, she just started to upload one of her vlogs. The term "UA-cam vlogger" just added fuel to the flame and unfortunately led to the case overshadowing everything else.
Why do you think the media exists to help? They exist to make money.
News only cares about traditional white women
@@wraithreaper22 unfortunately you are right. It is so inappropriate and maddening. As far as we've come as a society we have so much further to go. 😡☹
I really respect Gabby's father for trying to bring attention to other missing people as well. It's way too easy to prioritize the situation of a public figure so much that it drowns out regular folks facing the same issue.
Gabby was not really a public figure, she had like 10 k followers, some of my friends have that...her case was well publicized because of to the police footage (btw I hope that cop who just believed Brian and implied she was the abuser even though all witnesses including the cop himself said they saw him hitting her not vice versa has sleepless nights for the rest of his life).
It's about threat assessment....if the murderer is still at large they do a assessment and proceed accordingly...
@@222222ania Thank you! Everyone keeps thinking she had a million+ followers which those numbers were only from after she went missing 🤦🏻♀️
RACIST TO US ASIANS
Here we are nearly a year after Lauren Cho's remains were found and there still isn't a resolution to her case. Toxicology reports don't take THAT long.
There been sickos like this operating like that for awhile, I remember local case where a young Asian women was assaulted and murder in a local park. Never resolved. Police chalk it up to a random thing. SMH.
Well the last guy to see her was famous and had connections so…
Police can only do things with what they have, real life isn’t NCIS
Still nothing. Wtf
as far as Lauren's case goes, I am FLOORED that she was found so close to where she disappeared, how tf was there a search of any kind done without finding her?! ugh it's so heartbreaking, both stories are. just wow, I can't believe they didn't get more coverage💔
Maybe she was dropped there after her murder ? Sort of what happened to Alonzo Brooks.
@@mindfulnessnow3094 exactly what I thought. Weird the murderer would have brought her back
@@tillyjames5180 This is just my speculation. It is also possible that she wandered off, got lost and died there. She wasn't found because the heat made it impossible to do so. But the theory of murdered and dumped is possible too.
@@fc7307 what was the cause of death? Do they know?
I don’t believe her autopsy report has been made public yet. Hopefully it will soon, to answer whether or not Yet another murder is on the loose or heat stroke is too blame
Kylen & Crystal's case has recently been closed. Adam Pinkusiewicz was identified as the killer but unfortunately he already off'd himself.
..and when they were creeped out by him lurking around their campsite and uncomfortable with his unwanted presence, they didn't pack up and go find another location to camp because Why??
What a coward, he took the easy way out instead of doing the right thing. Usually I wouldn't say that about suicide as I too have attempted but it angers me when a criminal murders someone and then just kills themselves. I'd rather have them locked up and tortured.
@cantfindmykeys that's my question as well.
The “van life” doesn’t sound so safe. Not from nature or wildlife, but from human predators.
It's kinda stupid, IMO, but "safety" is proportionately linked to "your instincts/observation of danger and subsequent actions". Not victim blaming, BTW, but if they felt this guy was "creepy" or dangerous, and they said they'd be murdered if they were missing, they oughtn't have remained in that spot. It's VanLIfe so it's not like they couldn't have driven to another place less secluded.
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 I agree. They were not even in the van (not that it may have been safer), bc the van was at McDonald's lot. The few times I was creeped out by someone, I overtly video recorded them and the car. One time I knew someone was clocking me on a trail where I walk my dog, and I loudly FaceTimed a friend and said " if anything happens to me, it is this guy" and I flipped the camera toward the man. The guy quickly did a 180° and started to walk the other way. Never assume that the person does not have malicious intent, especially in such a secluded environment. Even if the man was friendly, I would've been cautious.
Exactly
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 I agree. I wouldn't have stayed there a minute longer if someone was giving me a creep vibe. We all know it never ends well. It's sad that women have to always be so cautious wherever we are.
All the more so when a stalker is spotted. At least make sure there's a security camera in the camping you choose if other people aren't in sight.
No way how close Lauren was to where she was staying is heartbreaking how long it took to find her RIP
Either it was planted months later, or it was extremely well hidden. Both sound like murder to me. I wonder if Cody is a suspect
@@alexxander966 If it was planted im guessing it was the owner. the one she was un happy with earlier in the night. the Prince..
Punctuation?
Yeah it doesn't make sense all that searching and fly overs only for it to be not even 1000 feet away. Couldn't they have used dogs granted they don't get over heated to pick up her scent?
@@Jfraire99 I thought they would have started by combing the area on foot, in all possible directions from the last known area she was at.
Thank you for bringing attention to these cases that NEED attention and justice for the victims.
I feel so badly for each of them. Kylen and Crystal seem like they had seen dificult times and had finally found one another. They had so little time together before they were killed. Seems like Lauren was doing much the same, making her own place in the world, exploring. They all deserved so much better.
@Ms Bliss it took me quite a while to find a comment like this. Does no one else see what’s so painfully obvious? The older woman has all the hallmarks of a life on drugs.
@Chloe KM Excuse me, I take drugs and I also rape kittens and puppies.
@Chloe KM Lmao, it certainly doesn't make them stable! And some people have such fierce addictions that they will do whatever they must to get the drugs they want.
The older broad looks gross af. Looks like a common meth head, tbh. Not all drug users are bad or dangerous but they certainly possess more of a potential for bad or dangerous behavior than someone who doesn't partake in drugs.
@@CasperInkyMagoo She does. I was surprised to find she was only 38 years old. I thought she was around 50, but their age difference was actually less than 14 years, which isn't so bad.
@Ms Bliss man, that is a disgusting comment on a dead person. What in the world is wrong with you?
Because someone has the signs of drug usage, means they're a bad person automatically? Do you even know she WAS still using drugs by the time she got In a relationship? Do you know if she even got sober? How do you know it was a relationship based on drugs? Because seriously, you made one hell of an assumption and it was a gross one. Unless you are personal family to them, I don't think you should be saying stuff like that.
G. R. O. S. S.
Go fix your brain.
honestly adrian, your timing is insane. i’ve been fasting all day (for religious reasons). i was just finishing cooking and now i can enjoy this vid while eating,, this is PERFECT
@@brandonborra5404
How awesome, that even during your religious fasting, Adrian dropped stellar entertainment for you to break your fast with!
*FIFY
Thankyou
@@brandonborra5404 no body care about ure opinion either
@@Kiefsti ha
the guy just delete the comment! total coward and try to learn to respect people religion in mean time.
Lauren worked at the tattoo/piercing place that I go to and it's so heartbreaking to see what happened and how it affected everyone at the shop. I never met her, but I remember seeing a lot of the artists pushing for an investigation to find her to be opened.
Whenever I see a video content where the Killer is yet to be caught or identified, it's just gives me huge dissatisfaction...
Same here. On another note. You should go back to full time Brock lol 😜
Yea I usually don't watch unsolved True Crime.
Especially with Moab police ignoring it completely. I was furious on how they handled Gabby and literally said “they did everything right”
Yeab i prefer to know it from the title
That’s most murders despite what it may seem like. Nationwide, most police don’t have a gcood homicide clearance rate. A lot of cities only solve like 20% of murder cases.
It’s actually slightly abnormal to get caught. Odds that a murderer gets caught is increased when the victims family has money and/or is pretty and white. Not a racial thing but no one can argue this fact.
I'm so happy that Adrian dug into this story. There hasn't been nearly enough coverage of these losses, and it's heartbreaking. 💔
He left out a lot of details in the first story. “Nomadic” and “van life” are euphemisms for unstable lifestyle and drug use.
I just read an article about the first case, yesterday! Never heard of it before that & was so disappointed on the lack of details. So I was happy to run into this video.
@@CasperInkyMagoo not necessarily. Even if that is/was the case what’s your point? Plenty of people who do not use drugs are nomadic. It’s called traveling. Whole families live in buses.... I could go on and on. And so what if they were on drugs. Doesn’t appear that has a THING to do with their murder and as such DESERVE coVerage nd justice.
@@CasperInkyMagoo
No.
“Nomadic” and “van life” are the kewl terms kids use to feel like they’re doing something profound.
In my early 20s me and a bunch of dudes lived in our cars. We wanted to climb as much as possible, everyday so we’d sleep at the crag…for months on end.
People called us “dirtbags”.
No drugs…no alcohol…just climbing, training, comradery and a WHOLE bunch of assumptions from the Karens on the outside trying to peer in.
Know your role, Karen.
You’re making assumptions about a group of people you’re not even knowledgeable about.
Grow up.
Nothing is covered....The most prolific serial killer was just caught recently... couple yrs.. ago...SAM LITTLE/ MCDOWELL....LOOK IT UP...93 KILLS...100 ARRESTS TOTAL IN HIS Life.....DID ONLY TEN YRS ALL TOTAL IN JAIL...African AMERICAN MALE IN HIS 70s now....
Good of you to draw attention to these cases. I'm in Salt Lake City, UT so this is very close to home. Also there is still NOTHING as to an update on Lauren Cho. That is upsetting.
The picture of Lauren with a sleepy parrotlet broke me - in that single picture alone, you can tell what kind of relationship she must have had with that bird. That bird has to have deeply trusted and loved her in order to nap while perched on her finger, and I can only imagine that that love and trust was mutual. If the poor thing is still alive, it must be devastated. RIP Lauren, you will be missed by human and animal alike :(
That's a good observation. Animals are so perceptive. I always think about the person's pets in these stories. Luckily most people love animals and make sure to care for them ✨
The bird passed away alittle after Lauren went missing. This whole situation is messed up
Well put, birds are especially intelligent and bond intensely with a person. When they lose their person, be it to death, another individual, another pet, even just a change in routine, they start becoming stressed, anxious, and depressed. They start feather 🪶 pulling, self mutilation, even vocalizations equal to screaming. Other species recognise those of us that are open, understanding, and trustworthy. I hope it's being cared for by someone she loved.
@@lifeunderwater451 oh f*cking hell, poor baby. Hopefully it will meet her on the rainbow 🌈 bridge, and they can soar 🪁 freely together.
Great work, Adrian. Thank you for putting the spotlight on Lauren Cho's murder. Seems scary that Kylen and Crystal could have been killed by a serial killer. Hopefully he gets found, fast. Blessings to Gabby's parents for expressing their concerns that all missing people deserve to be found. Sympathies to all the families who lost their dear ones. 💞
Beautiful post.
Not enough praise is given to this content creator. These nicely made videos are becoming a favourite of ours.
The dad and his presence of mind stood out to me, wanting to make sure his daughter's friend was safe! 💪🏼 Friday the 13th! 😱
Thank you for bringing up some of the cases that occurred in this time frame. In Canada, indigenous women go missing alarmingly often but it never gets reported to the extent that Gabby’s case was.
Not just Canada, but the United States as well and in many cases, the police are involved at worst or are negligently dismissive at best
Well it shouldn't just get kept silent, these are people not some killers playthings.
@@xPaulxPhoenixx Unfortunately I’m starting to believe Indigenous women of the Americas go missing at alarming rates and even more so if they don’t speak the dominant languages like English, Spanish, Portugués. For example, in Mexico, Non-Spanish speaking Indigenous women are quite literally enslaved specifically because sometimes they dont know how to read or write (bc there are hardly any schools in their villages) and that makes it harder to ask for help making them 10x more them vulnerable. It’s so sad but I really hope this epidemic stops in my lifetime🤍.
Updated; 12/05/22 on 12'th May ' 22 it is reported via Court TV with interviews local county sheriff's office & the victims relatives that a Suspect has been identified as Adam Pinkusiewicz, who was a co_worker of Crystal Turner. He apparently confessed and subsequently took his own life. He is treated as a credible suspect.
Hope it's okay to post.
Thanks for posting but i find it hard to believe. Some locals are saying a certain cop in town was harassing them and feel something isnt right. Who really knows but there have been many people killed by cops and the cops pinned it on someone else and then they suddenly kill themselves.
If it were this Adam guy who Crystal new why would she not have identified him when she said there was a creepy guy around ...makes me think they did not know that person
That last name is Polish. Never trust Polish men.
The reports I read said that he was a former worker at that same McDonald's not that he was a co-worker, they may not have worked there at the same time.
@@heavenbound3665 his a former worker so it’s possible that Crystal hired to her job when the suspect was not around anymore.
Whenever I camp, I always leave when I feel any discomfort with people. Camping is dangerous because of the human beings. This is heartbreaking.
Unfortunately common sense is in short supply.
In Lauren’s case, I wonder if her remains were out there later, after the area was searched. Just seems hard to believe that you wouldn’t find someone who was 1000 feet away from where they were last seen.
I was thinking the same. They would of found her. She was placed there.
People disappear in the wild easily. They have found remains of missing people 100f from the place they were last seen. It's just bad luck.
You would think that the use of tracker dogs could have picked up her scent
The tricky part about finding bodies in wilderness areas is that it all depends on a lot of factors. The way the sun is hitting, how well you know the area, where the person died (i.e. near a tree or around an area that's cluttered and easily crossed over by the eye), the condition of the body. But surely there would have been carrion to draw scrutiny to the area, crows and vultures make a hell of a racket when they've descended on a meal. I would consider that she was murdered, her body hidden away somewhere, and the killer panics when media attention ticks up and they pull the body and stash it by the air bnb to make it look like maybe she wandered off and committed suicide. If they were looking for her in earnest the first few days then they surely would have found her by way of carrion birds. I guarantee that area is rife with crows and vultures.
Maybe the property owner???
I had never heard of any of these cases, so thank you for bringing them to our attention. The media needs to give equal attention to ALL people that are missing. Prayers of healing and strength lifted for the victims' families. I hope their murderers are found and brought to justice.
Thank you, Adrian. Gabby's case is horrific but it was blown out of proportion by the Media. There are so many other terrible cases which were overshadowed. Thank you for showing us these
Because gabby is straight these 2 are lesbians
Gabby wasn't overblown, these cases were underblown
I remember being very confused when the case got attention. I honestly thought she was a celebrity that I never heard of bc I could not understand what made her case so exceptional.
@@MrMuaythai84 it's because she was a minor celebrity and they knew there was a market. Get over this gay vs straight argument
@@SandyTheDesertFox 100% 👍🏻
Well done video Adrian. It really is disheartening that the media focused so much on just one case. Everyone deserves that coverage & attention to details. You’ve done a fantastic job at bringing this topic to the forefront.
I disagree with Adrian's comment about white victims getting more media coverage, in fact it's the exact opposite. The vast majority of the US media is "progressive," that is, it is extremely left wing. When a black person (say the latest school shooter last month) terrorizes a school with multiple rounds, it is kept out of the media, whereas when a white student does the same, it is in the media for weeks. When a black person (say the black man who executed a 5 year old white child while he was playing in his driveway in 2020) is arrested at the scene, and admits to what they have done, it is not in the media and if it is, it's buried quickly, with no mention of the race of the killer or victim. Where as if a white male executed a black 5 year old it would be a story on Yahoo for months (like Dylan Roof). If and black person (say the black man who recently punched a white woman in the face on the New York metro because she told him to "take a chill pill) is recorded committing the assault, it is still not in the media, and the race of the victim and attacker is never brought to light. In fact BLM is still lauded by the media as peaceful and just and career criminals like George Floyd, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin are worshipped like martyrs.
I watched this video the day it was posted and was shocked by the second story. As I was watching the video, and they showed the map, I realized I stayed in that Airbnb 9 days after the body was found. I knew NOTHING about any of it. I had never heard, or seen, anything about Lauren. It blew my mind.
Once the body that was found was confirmed to me Lauren's, it appears they closed the Airbnb complex because none of the locations are available via the hosts profile anymore. Thank you for sharing this story. I feel terrible that I was so unaware.
Lauren's situation of lack of media coverage reminds me of similar situation here in Australia, 6yr old white girl goes missing and everyone is in a frenzy, while the is barely anything on a missing young indigenous boy. Sadly, found in many places.. not new 😔
Thank you for sharing these 3 women's stories, I and others appreciate it
Thought of the very same thing. So many FN kids go missing and crickets.
so true :(
Sadly the level of media coverage is determined by the colour/tone of your skin, it’s like that in most western countries and it is sad because at the end of the day we’re all human and all life is equally important regardless of skin colour.
I liked what Gabby’s father had to say about this issue, but seems like it fell on deaf ears in the media.
And the media dare to consider themselves diverse...
The story of 4 year old Cleo, I believe you are referring to was international news though, because she was found alive! It made everyone happy..
Cry more snowflake
I love when True Crime channels cover unsolved cases. You never know who is out there that knows something that they don't even realize they know! Getting the story out there is so important, especially when its multiple stories in one location.
Just want to say, I have binged so many of your videos! I can see how you’ve grown as well. Something I really enjoy is that you say great things about the city of the crime, I think it is so important… so people can avoid forming biases and it reminds us, this stuff happens everywhere. I also really love your tributes to the victims at the end. It’s always so touching (I cry almost every time) and I have seen how much it means to the people who knew the victims from the comments. Both of these things just seems very thoughtful and I think your channel deserves all the success and love! Keep working hard. ❤
I had such a problem with everyone focusing ONLY on the Petito case, and got quite a bit of pushback over that opinion. I'm so glad you're covering the cases that weren't seen by so many eyes. While I'm glad the virality helped the Petito case.. Such virality can help EVERY case, and it's sad cases such as these didn't get the same potential breakthroughs.. Love your channel, hope you're doing well!
All of the families that suffered because of the petitos case. I was straight up pissed.
@@shayhoff7064 I watch a few True Crime videos, and got such passive aggressive replies from the creators.. I dunno, it felt like everyone was bandwagoning because it was getting views... Which is a shame even when real human people aren't behind it
When they were trying to find Gabby and Brian, they found 9 other deceased missing persons, but I don't remember hearing anything about them.. ☹️💔🕊️
@@einienj3281 WHAT. I'm not in the US, sure, but I heard NOTHING about that....
@@Danigoddamnit they said nothing about them, but that’s normal for all death cases 😶 they are so focus on the vaccine shot other than the injustice crimes that happen to innocent people in a daily basis
Sounds like Cody killed Lauren. It's usually the last person who saw them alive. They argued then suddenly she vanished, and the owner of the airbnb is their friend. Not fishy or anything.
@@word42069 Nah she didn't get lost. If you look at other similar cases, it turns out the victims never left after the argument. They likely didn't find any blood evidence to convict Cody, but I bet you they will find strangulation marks on Lauren's body.
@@word42069 She didn't bring her phone with her, as stated in the video.
@@Thought_Criminal77 Bullshit, there is no COD available, police waiting on toxicology reports.
@@yewarrhorez They aren't, he made it up.
@@Thought_Criminal77 Lauren’s cause of death has not been released. The article that said that was talking about Gabby Petito
Lauren Cho’s cause of death was confirmed to be strangulation. There are no current leads on her case as of August 2022. It’s so sad to see ‘missing white girl syndrome’, it truly undercuts the urgency in cases involving POC. I hope she’s resting peacefully. Crystal and Kylen’s alleged killer was later identified as Adam Pinkusiewicz when he confessed to authorities in Utah.
Apparently he killed himself right after becoming a suspect
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Who was he? Why did he kill them?
Any DNA with Lauren?
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 unfortunately there’s no new DNA.
It's not some made up missing white girl syndrome. Leave that sh@t for Joy(less)Reid. Gabby was a UA-camr and known quantity and the nature of her channel was mysterious disappearances. The other girls weren't widely known. There's your answer.
It's a very good thing using your platform to spread the equal message that these were all humans killed. Equal yet treated differently.
Geez I bet that last line gets you alot of tang.
It's called sensationalism, or in modern day term going viral. Also, Adrian just did a case of near carbon copy of Gabby's that didn't get the same attention for the same reason most missing persons don't, fickleness.
It makes you realize that if you ever get enough of the creeps to text someone about it, jot down a quick description. So sad. Many people feel free in nature and close to God. Yet evil lurks...
I have taken a sneaky photo in past too, and sent to friends
Leave so you don't need it.
Go with your gut and get away even if you have to leave stuff behind.
Take a picture. And make it obvious. Might save your life if they know you've taken their photo and sent it off to others.
Its insurance
there is no god
The reason the Gabby Petito case got so much publicity and interest is because of the known activity of her boyfriend Brian Laundrie. It’s not because people thought Gabby was “more important” it’s because the facts of the case were playing out in real time with Brian returning home in her car without her, then on the run, then vanishing. It was a mystery still unfolding in the eyes of the media. That’s why. If any of these other cases had similar circumstances the same thing would have happened. The other equally tragic cases were static without any ongoing drama unfolding so they didn’t elicit the same fascination as Gabby’s case with her probable killer on the run in real time. The other cases had no leads or suspects. Nothing ongoing - nothing new to follow.
Adrian is such a gentleman. He has genuine compassion and understanding.
I couldn’t agree more
Poor Kylen's dad. He loses his son to a shooting and then his daughter. The man lost both his children, that is so sad, especially as he sounds like such an amazing person, upping sticks to help Kylen's mental state, being totally cool about her relationship with Crystal (when, even in these enlightened times a lot of parents aren't good with their child having a same sex relationship) and his first thought when her friend discovered the bodies was to warn her to get out of there in case the killer was still present somewhere.
On the face of it Kylen and Crystal seemed an unlikely pair but they found true love with each other and had many good, fun and happy years stolen from them by some shitbag that's still out there somewhere. Let's hope it's not for much longer.
As for Lauren, how could she have been less than 350 yards from the airBnB for all that time without somebody finding her. It does explani why she had no phone, money or water with her, she had clearly not intended to go very far and didn't. Maybe the autopsy will shed some light, maybe she tripped and fell, knocked herself out and died of exposure while unconscious. Hopefully her final moments weren't filled with fear whilst facing a killer but only time will tell.
agreed, it breaks my heart what his whole family had to go through, and the losses of three such special unique souls
It’s people like u that help get these victims stories out! I think it’s sad the police didn’t even try but that seems to happen more often now! Thank u for sharing I’ve not heard about these girls ! I’m praying these families one day find Justice for these beautiful young woman!
"There's a super creepy guy at the campsite who's been lurking around our tent and intimidating us. If anything happens to us, we were murdered"
And you GO BACK TO STAY at that campsite???
Not a f*cking chance in hell
Nice victim blaming 👍
@@addfuture its true though, thats not smart at all
@@Derfinater I didn't say it was smart, but blaming the victims like that is a shitty thing to do imo. Also side note, it's very easy to say after the fact what a dumb idea it was to go back to the campsite, but there's no chance they (or anyone else in their situation) could have known that the creepy guy would end up murdering both of them.
@@addfuture ok karen
@@janiznick right, I'm the Karen in this situation lmao
Thank you Adrian. You, Mike from That Chapter and Giles from Monsters are the three crime channels I HAVE TO WATCH...I love your work, and you have a beautiful way of telling these tragic stories. Thank you for the vivid imagery your story telling invokes and for how you always respect the victims... Love your channel so much xx
Yes! So agree!!!
I'm also a big fan of That Chapter. There are several other good crime channels, like Disturban and the Crime Reel (who has cases from the mid 1800's to the mid 1900's, generally speaking), Crimeatoreum (although this one does have video's on a regular basis). I'm not familiar with Monsters, so I'll check that out.
and me x
@@marleennijland4244 Monsters is absolutely awesome.... Very gruff biker guy called Giles doing it... He curses.... Get the fk outta here and the likes... But I absolutely love him. Adrian, Mike and Giles are all very different in how they approach and present their work, but I love the 3 of them so much :)
@@ilovecreepyclowns this is monsters!!!! I love that channel. I found that by accident best accident by far on these yotube streets. 😆
I've watched and read so many things about the first couple and so few sources ever mention their poor pet rabbit. Thankfully she was left alone by the killer, but the police just treated her as part of the crime scene instead of a sentient being and left her at the crime scene for days. She's now being taken care of properly.
That's so f**d!!!
Not even a thousand feet from where she was staying, just like Gabby was found about a thousand feet from where the van was sighted. There are so many of these people that go missing and yet are found deceased so close to where they went missing from. It makes you wonder how are these searches done. Even Brian's remains were found within several thousand feet of where the cadaver dogs were running. But they did not find him! Prayers and blessings to the families of these three young women that had so much potential!
It’s cause of how the radius of a circle contributes towards area, a 1km radius is a big ass circle and it’s a lot of ground to cover, but I agree I personally think in any investigation a certain radius should be searched thoroughly thoroughly
Brian Laundrie's remains were also completely submerged when the search initially covered the area, and they DID find Gabby very soon after the sighting of the van was reported. The last message sent from her phone said they were in Yosemite and by the time anyone knew she was missing the van was obviously not there so I don't know what your point is. Up until the coincidental sighting and video of the van was reported, they certainly didn't have a 1000 ft radius to start from.
Honestly your sense of space and geography sucks and you are insulting the good people who search for missing persons.
Maybe this will help you wrap your mind around it: a circle with a 1000ft radius is over *72 ACRES.*
If you believe you would do a better job of efficiently coordinating a search over 72 acres of desert during the summer then quit criticizing the people actually making the effort and share your magic solution.
"She started dating again, but Cody didn't know who" makes me super sus of Cody. I would bet my entire savings account she thought they were good friends, and he thought they could get back together after spending time together nomad style, so he went into a murderous rage when he found out she was seeing someone new. Someone that wasn't him.
Also makes sense how the body was so close and never found. Cody hid it well, and since we don't know how the police found the body, either he confessed, told someone, or someone else somehow managed to find the body.
I am right there with you! That's exactly what I thought!
Yeah, I think the same. Definitely suspicious.
I'm sure that the police were aware of that too, so he probably had an alibi.
He certainly has a motive.
It doesn't help that these remote police depts, not being under such close scrutiny as the bigger city departments, can become corrupt and nobody is none the wiser.
Maybe Cody is related to one of the officers, who knows?
prove it
So beautifully presented.
I believe the ex-boyfriend will be the one answering to the reasons behind this amazing and vivacious lady's death. Sadly I have a terrible feeling she likely met a very similar fate as Gabby. It's highly unlikely she would wonder off without her phone, as it's a contact, entertainment and time piece in this day & age. As for the beautiful couple, someone has seen an opportunity and taken advantage of the solitude. Here's hoping they tell someone, or mess up and are caught very soon. May these women now be at peace and surrounded by love and light. X
True how come you will invite your ex gf that you know dating someone in a camp tour.
1'000 YARDS - from where she went missing.
No one heard of a drone or a search dog?
Tragic!!!
In Lauren’s case I think it’s clearly the ex boyfriend she was travelling with. He’d just split up with her ten found out she was dating someone else. There was no one else out there. No woman walks away into the wilderness without a phone etc, it’s the first thing she’d pick up so she could contact her girl friends after the argument.
Absolutely!
I think it was murder suicide
I do and know alot of people that do it's good time to think alone
But wouldn't the other people staying at the airbnb have seen the 2 of them walk off together? With all that open land, it would be hard to just walk off and not be seen. He only went to the bus for 10 minutes at 3pm and then began calling out for her. He called 3 friends and then reported her missing at 5pm. I don't know, doesn't seem suspicious to me. That's a pretty quick reaction from going missing to calling friends and police. Especially if he had killed her only 1000 feet away, I doubt he'd call police so quickly.
1) ex-lover
2) last had an argument with Lauren
3) last person to see Lauren
4) familiar with the area
Her father is an incredible man. Helping her start a new life in a new town to help with her depression and having the presence of mind to tell the girl who found them to leave the area is amazing.
Just notice something: the date on which Kylen and Crystal went missing (16 August 2021) was the same day on which you uploaded the case of Mollie Tibbetts, another young woman who went missing and with a devastating end. Terrible tragedies in our society. Prayers to all their families
it always really bothers me how the media focuses on single cases like Gabby, EVERYONE is of equal importance, people shouldn’t be given more airtime… i can’t imagine being a parent of another child that went missing at the same time, the pain they must go through seeing another child get all of the media coverage and so little for their own child… we need to be better
Not everyone is equal. The first case were two hobo lesbians and the other, a chinese hippie. What do they contribute to society?
As nice as it would be for everyone to get equal coverage, it's simply not physically possible. There were 540,000 people reported missing in 2020. If every one of them got equal coverage each person would only get 1 minute for their story and they would have to run stories 24/7 without pause or commercials. That leaves no time for real meaningful coverage anyways much less funding to be able to run stories.
How do you propose being better? Most people are dealing with life happening to them too. Raising children, dealing with making a living, people have medical conditions and problems of their own. There's little to no information to cover many of these cases. Nice sentiment, difficult in practice.
I grew up with Lauren Cho in NJ and she was one of the nicest people I've ever met. Truly heartbreaking
I could see that just from her photos, just from her smile I could tell. Very sad.
"The Whole" Air B&B where they stayed literally sounds like the title of a Horror Movie.
Bates Motel , the perfect place just for you .....
Yeah, I heard "The HOLE" and thought it sounded creepy, but maybe just meant to be ironic. Once I realized it's "The Whole" I got some Jonestown vibes. Come for the b&b, stay for the cult!
@@LunarEleven Dude making up marketing slogans for them. Awesome 🤣✌️
The Whole as in The Hole. Meaning they probably have an underground bunker hidden beneath the property. I mean if you were doing ritual sacrifices what better place than in the desert with a tiny ass population. Reminds of of True Detective tbh.
I like how you made Bombay Beach look like a normal beach. It isn't. It's part of a lake, located in a BAD part of town and is littered and and disgusting. People who hang out at Bombay Beach are typically homeless individuals with drug habits (artists and other bohemian creatives). Those that don't stick around go to Slab City across the way. That's an even WORSE part of town.
I'm a local. I know.
Oh hey, another desert dweller! 👋 I’m surprised he didn’t explain that the Salton Sea and Bombay Beach aren’t just littered, but are literally rotting and destroying air quality in the local area. Nothing can even survive in the water, the whole beach is littered with fish and animal bones, and that SMELL….
I also find it really funny how a large portion of the “bohemian” / “artsy” people have really normal, even privileged backgrounds. They’re choosing to live in squalor for the “aesthetic” or something. Other residents are genuinely struggling with addiction and homelessness, but a lot of these people could just call their parents and all of it would be fixed for them.
How would he know if he isnt a local?
@@peachylady google??
@@peachylady Do you mean me or the narrator?
Cause I live in Coachella and work for the County of Riverside, which is next to it.....and I've done sooooo many searches for clients in that area "as they have an artys experience" (tripping balls) out in the 120 degree weather.
@@afreshloafofgarlicbread6307
Greetings from Coachella haha
We get the smell from the Salton Sea over here haha
Thank you for this report. I am flabbergasted at how many people disappear either with no trace or later found dead in an area that apparently wasn't searched! Along with that, it is very troubling that so few police get involved at the beginning when the possibility of solving the case is probably best. I can't help but feel this is the reason why so many disappearances are ever solved!
Thank you so much for bringing attention to the _many_ other cases that were overlooked during the Gabby Petito/Brian search. Their lives mattered just as much as Gabby's, and it honestly makes me mad to think that the media all but ignored them. Rest In Peace Kaylen, Crystal and Lauren 💔
It's a sad case but what about the delani the black man was found in the water. They show a lot of white people on the news but black people are always disregarded his life mattered too
There was a lot of help from the Van Life Community and became such a social media search in that community as well which offered a lot of help to Gabby Petito because she was a blogger with that community and generally posted daily but then it stopped. I give that a lot of credit to her case, but we have loads of people that they go missing that the media don't cover a lot and should be more of I agree. As a community of people, it's good that we get involved and push for more coverage for everyone. It upsets me about these two women as I read the LE searched their vehicle or camp and found drug products so they just let it go as involvement to drugs, like WTH. Prayers to their families as this is devasting.
They won't rest in hell I promise you that.
The reason Gabby Petito’s murder took such spotlight is because she vlogged on UA-cam and there were so many witness testimonies and videos from police and security cameras. Plus it doesn’t help that her boyfriend drove all the way home and ran into the Everglades to die. That story was wild from start to finish, and we all had front-row seats to it.
She wasn’t even an influencer really (she had less than 1000 followers before her death), but the way she was portrayed as one, certainly made it more popular because so many women aspire to be one, and it’s a catchy title. Add to that the police video where she fought with Brian and they were broken up, and the speed at which she was considered missing, it was perfect for TV. Millions of women see themselves in her. They projected their own abusive relationships onto that police video, so they flocked to Facebook and Reddit to speculate and invent scenarios. It was an absolute shitshow.
It's because she was blond, white, young, pretty and a domestic crime victim. Let's be real here.
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"she was blond, white, young, pretty"
they draw the highest price in sex trafficking let be more real.
@@Psyopcyclops Invent scenarios that were the stone truth.
As another person said. Her parents were rich white ppl and had more resources and she was a white girl. Id have never heard of these sad cases if it wasn't for this video nor lovelyti. Theres also other black ppl missing as well and Asian but media/cops only cares for this. It's really sad for all cases though. I just hate the media for this
Thank you for doing this case! I live in Utah and I was really upset that this didn't get more media coverage. Moab is a BEAUTIFUL town, surrounded by BEAUTIFUL country. That such horrible things happened there is horrific to me, and it's so close to where I live. I hope they find who did this.
You are the voice of those who can’t speak themselves anymore and I love and respect this side of your channel so much. It’s not just empty entertainment.
It's absolutely beautiful that you brought attention to these stories. Gabbi's disappearance was the most talked about thing on all platforms for a while, but other people go missing and are killed, and they deserve to be talked about too. As you said, they're all the same: human. Thank you for making this video.
Gabby's case was more viral because she was an influencer with a pretty impressive fan base and had far more evidence to lead authorities to her killer. Rest in peace to all these women.
Gabbi didn't really have as big of a following as some people are making it out to be. It was only like, 10k followers, which is a lot of people, but not even close to being a major influencer.
@@Commenter839but that's an actual fan base, which the others did not have. Im not saying they don't deserve equal justice. Im just pointing out how information spreads.
I'm from the area Lauren went missing and unfortunately people go missing out here all the time. The location of the Airbnb is right on the edge to the national park and it's so easy to get lost there. On top of being lost, people underestimate how quickly they can die from dehydration. I'm not saying there was no foul play in that case but that's probably a reason why I only heard about it through my community and not on national headlines.
Adrian, you have the most soothing voice and I appreciate how thoroughly you cover these stories. Thank you for all you do!! 💙
I can’t stand his weird little head and his voice lol. I keep trying so hard to enjoy his videos, but something about him throws me off. He seems very disingenuous and kind of creepy.
@@Psyopcyclops he seems like a nice honest guy. The plaid/checkered shirts though, every time without fail
@@d993s He looks like he’d sniff your daughters seat when she got up off the bus. I don’t trust his little goblin head.
I think alot of what made Gabby's case so viral is that she was already a popular youtube with a strong following. When anything happens to an online figure they will always get the most media attention and google searches compared to someone who is not. It's sad and I truly wish that Lauren had gotten the widespread media coverage she deserved.
She was not popular, she had only about 10k followers. (Which I know seems like a lot to us, but it isn't lol)
Gabby who?
Gabby was a pretty young white woman. Missing and murdered POC cases rarely get the same media response. It’s not my opinion, it’s a fact.
Thank you Adrian for bringing these 2 overlooked cases to the attention of your global community. With all my heart I hope the perpetrators will be discovered and brought to justice. Your compassion and gift in empathising with the families of victims of such horrendous crimes sets you apart from other true crime channels.
Ive never been so happy to see anyone uploaded!!
Thank you for covering this and keeping it about the victims and not just talking about their stories. Really appreciate your effort putting into this. My heart goes to the victims’ family as well.
I heard about this couple a little bit during Gabbys case… but the first time running across a video dedicated to them! 🙏🏾😇❤️ well done!
Lauren Cho worked in the piercing studio I go to. It's been heartbreaking watching her work beg for help for months.
I think Gabbys case got more attention because it was well documented with a clear suspect who was on the run. There was simply more clues to talk about over a longer period of time.
Thousands of missing persons cases are just like hers: well-documented with a very obvious suspect in hiding. No missing person case has gotten that much coverage in probably at least a decade. There have even been plenty of missing kids that never got even a fraction of the coverage despite that "tugging at the heartstrings" more. There's no real explanation for why her case got such ridiculous coverage (at least that I've been able to find that doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory). Very odd situation.
II disagree with Adrian's comment about white victims getting more media coverage, in fact it's the exact opposite. The vast majority of the US media is "progressive," that is, it is extremely left wing. When a black person (say the latest school shooter last month) terrorizes a school with multiple rounds, it is kept out of the media, whereas when a white student does the same, it is in the media for weeks. When a black person (say the black man who executed a 5 year old white child while he was playing in his driveway in 2020) is arrested at the scene, and admits to what they have done, it is not in the media and if it is, it's buried quickly, with no mention of the race of the killer or victim. Where as if a white male executed a black 5 year old it would be a story on Yahoo for months (like Dylan Roof). If and black person (say the black man who recently punched a white woman in the face on the New York metro because she told him to "take a chill pill") is recorded committing the assault, it is still not in the media, and the race of the victim and attacker is never brought to light. In fact BLM is still lauded by the media as peaceful and just and career criminals like George Floyd, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin are worshipped like martyrs.
Not only that she was a youtuber.
@@johnq.random1496 truth!
@@johnq.random1496 true, but white girls will always get more coverage if the case is a female (and prob) male victim of a crime.
But white racists get more negative coverage than black racists
It is what it is
Thank you for highlighting disappearances that are not given enough attention. Marginalized communities tend to get less attention 😭😭
Get less attention? I've heard a ton about Schulte case. There are over 20,000 homicides in the US every year. The media can't give extensive coverage to each one. Quit looking for a reason to be outraged.
Ikr. I am huge fan of true crime and I watch it all the time in UA-cam, but sadly this is the first time I hear about this case and as far as I know Adrian is the only one who has covered it. It sad ti know how many cases get little or no attention and coverage. It is so unfair.
Gabby already had a social media following and the videos from Moab got everyone interested in her case. It doesn't mean anyone else was less important ffs 🙄
That poor Dad losing both children like that...
Thanks for this video and bringing attention to these cases. You're truly a classy guy!
I think it's sad when some cases get a ton of media coverage while others barely get any. So heartbreaking that Kylen finally found happiness & love. Kylen & Crystal looked so in love & happy then to be brutally murdered. My heart breaks for Kylens dad to loose his son then his daughter. I don't know if I could go on. Sending him lots of love❤My heart also goes out to Cindy. She'll have those images buried into her brain for the rest of her life. I really hope that she's getting the help she needs. The fact that Lauren had the guts to walk away from a stable life to go out there & make a new life for herself is amazing. Many people would be too scared to do that. I love that Gaby's dad brought attention to thae fact that these women's stories are also just as important. I hope that Kylen Crystal & Lauren their families & friends will get the justice they deserve. Thank you Adrian for bringing attention to these cases❤
Blame the media for picking and choosing what gets attention. They are the problem these days, nothing they say is accurate and always bias. Start searching these types of cases on your own if your interested. It's a waste of time waiting for the news to tell actually kinda sad people need the news to even tell them thing when we have internet.
@@Dhw997 I agree. 4 months ago I lost my boyfriend of 15yrs to a hit & run. It was all over the news & they got a ton of info wrong. One news report said it was a one person accident & some them got some info right. Just really really hope the police find the pos who took his life & destroyed mine. So I definitely have experience in this. And it's so heartbreaking.
I remember constantly hearing about the disappearance of Gabby but nothing about Lauren. All lives deserve equal treatment RIP
There are over 20,000 homicides in the US each year. Do you expect round the clock coverage to be given to each one? Quit looking for a reason to be outraged.
Thank you so much for giving coverage to lesser known cases. Per usual, this channel is just absolutely beautifully tragic in delivery and i love how you humanize these victims. I hope all three of these women are in a better place, and that answers will be provided to their families soon.
Your compassion and the beautiful way you deliver the stories you cover are refreshing and inspiring. Thank you for caring about those lives that do matter. You’re a beautiful soul.
Thnx for giving these cases more visibility
Lauren was found less than a 1/5th of a mile from the place she was staying at. A 10 minute walk could of saved her
And those guys that were her friends made it out to be that they looked everywhere and all night for her. There’s no way they couldn’t have seen her back in June. Something is off
@PeRFeCT IMPeRFeCTiON that’s my thoughts too. I just can’t base facts on what just these guys have said and their timeline. People lie all the time and it’s hard for me to just trust these men’s words
Knowing that area fairly well, (Bombay Beach, Yucca Valley) I kept up with Lauren Chos story. As one comment said, It seems very, very odd that she was found so close to the AirBnB. The areas out there are wide open... The area she was found was easy to see from ground or air.
Still following up on her case. Extremely... Unreal.
Another exceptionally well done video. Thank you for bring attention to people who need it.
And she was last seen in a bright yellow shirt and the guys say there was a 10 minute window before they looked for her all night there. Doesn’t really make sense at all that she wasn’t found sooner
@@lifeunderwater451 Hadn't heard that detail! Makes this all the more strange... I'm thinking 'foul play' .
@@hushingsilence I’ve been trying to find a lot of different info about Lauren’s case. If you have a Instagram there’s someone called dumpster lemonade who has more info than anyone I’ve seen. It’s actually crazy
@@lifeunderwater451 Thanks! I'll check them out. I'm so curious about this event. Thanks for the tip.
@@hushingsilence you’re welcome. People need to start asking more questions about what happened
Y'all already know why no one heard about Lauren. Thanks for covering her case because I never heard about her.
I really love that you're covering lesser known cases, it's both interesting and great for getting the word out about cases most of us would have never heard of.