Literally means there’s 3 more sets and you’re home and dry. Problem is I do 3x 3 drop sets Lol. Then at end of every drop set I do half reps to failure, then isometric hold. I take leg extensions over that bastard any day.
I feel calves are probably the most genetically limited muscles to build. Meaning that anyone can build theirs bigger, but some aren’t going to get the results they want. That goes with every body though, right? Calves are just even harder if you ain’t got them. I built much better calves by doing them every other day for years. Same lifts you show and talk here, Jay. Thanks
The shape (e.g. insertion points) of muscles is genetic. Calves are particularly sensitive to shape. My shins are very bowed and make my calves look funny.
exaclty, what most people miss about calves is the recovery period. you should literally work them every 2 days if you're have lagging calves. Once or twice a week youre wasting your time.
@@kingdribs9286 flexing/posing between sets, drop sets, supersets, was at one point also bro science. until enough people got results . but no one is forcing you.
@@devonmartinbasson It'll obviously work because as long as there's at least 2 days between workouts and enough stress being applied a muscle will grow. But you're on some BS saying 2x a week is useless,it'll work well too but not as fast. That's like saying training back or chest 2x a week is futile. It works but 3x is better for strength gains and hypertrophy too
Really 😂 but There are better ones for people who have lack of equipments - "Belt Calf Raises" "Smith Machine Calf Raises" "Single Leg DB Calf Raises" And maybe seated calf raises with Leg Curl Machine
“Are calves genetic or can you build them? “ -proceeds to not answer question. “Peak contraction at the top and a deep stretch at the bottom.” - proceeds to bouncing half repetitions 😂
@@jamesrevere2992I would love to see his before. Mf is a bodybuilder what does small mean to him ?😅 its like asking a pro power lifter what's lightweight.
Love training the calves. I like going for 7 reps toes pointing inward, 7 outwards and finally 7 straight. The rep range might be a little high but if you focus on progressive overloading and pushing yourself you get some insane results and a big pump :D
I’ve always struggled with small calves even after training them every day they weren’t sore for 2 years straight. Ive looked for just about every solution or workout routine possible and what I’d realized is most people with naturally big calves grew up with an athletic background or were overweight. When I started running 10 miles a week I grew almost an inch in two months. Sometimes the calves are not the issue, the ankle and tibialis muscle are just underdeveloped.
I do almost all sets in the 8-12 range for all muscle groups . . . except calves. I go 20-30 reps. For years I did 8-12 for calves too, but I never felt a burn or pump in that rep range, and the growth was so so. I get way better results with the high reps, who knows why. Might be worth a try for anyone struggling to beef their calves up.
Still a beast! Stay healthy and safe! I love seeing fitness content without all the drama, just teaching good exerises and consitencey. Youre a legend man
I for sure believe they are genetic. My whole family has small calves. Although mine have gotten a little tiny bit bigger ever since I started to really train them.
Every muscle is controlled more by genetics than anything else. I've noticed forearms and calves tend to be linked, like big calves mean you can grow big forearms.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.Tthere is this bodybuilder i saw on youtube yesterday. He was big, big upper legs but his calves were insanely tiny. Like he didnt train them at all
Best way to get massive calves is to get obese. I'm not even kidding. I used to be obese but even after I lost all my extra weight, I still have my big calves. I've never seen an obese person with calves that aren't massive and shredded
I've heard many people talk about this, I think it is relates to the concept of Nucleus Overload, when obese, your calves endure tons of volume (literally) every day just by you walking around, and thus over a long period of time become very well developed. I've never seen a fat person have small calves when they lost weight.
Appreciate that crucial n valuable tip ...knowledge n technique...from a legendary n iconic bodybuilder...thnk mighty JC for that unbelievably beneficial tip...👍🙏✌
I find Jay very likable and relatively humble. He cracjs ne up sometimes with what he teaches with his words and what he does with gis form. What he did worked for him and I think his unique way gets positive results for certain people. It's just funny when Jay says stuff like ass to grass squats while he does more parallel versions of hip to knee.
Im Tongan and sorry to brag but i literally never have worked out my calves and mine are big. Us islanders in the pacific naturally have massive calves. I think its due to the food that we eat thats really high in protein and carbs. Also they're considered superfoods..
The Gym I’m currently training at doesn’t have calve machines so I do the ol Calve Presses(been doing em for years) usually with the same weight I press with so super set with high reps 20-15 at least. Though I do enjoy Toe Raises when I find a machine
Ya I just do it on the leg press too, as long as you can get a good stretch at the bottom by having your heels hang off there isn’t much difference in these exercises, basically just the same thing at different angles.
Same! I've previously heard that a lot of people bounce too much which actually doesn't give that "deep stretch" at the bottom that he mentions. Apparently it helps to let the mechanical tension dissipate before doing the next rep. It looks like Jay might be doing an extra squeeze at the top of his movement to get that maximum contraction. So he's not bouncing, i think, instead I believe he's doing: Lift, squeeze, lower He just does it fast so it looks like a bounce. But I'd love to hear if someone has other thoughts.
"Frequency and prioritization" People who complain about small calves seem to do the same "few sets of standing and seated calf raises at the end of my leg workout". Try this, do them FIRST on your leg days and at the end of your upper body days.
Your insertions are what they are no matter what you do. Really high insertions means with a lot of work it'll look like a fist on the back of your leg. Work 'em anyway.
1. If someone has bad genetics for calves. Can taking PEDs increase the size ? 2. Does that mean that all competitors for Olympia open have good genetics for calves ?
I was scrawny growing up. Life tragedies accrued, and I ballooned to almost 300lbs for a few years. Got my life on order, and took fitness very seriously. I'm now in the best shape of my life. My calves are the most shredded - which I believe is from carrying around all that fat for years.
When I first started gym, I didn't noticed much difference in my upper body but my quads and calves both became big and defined. For calves I only did calve raises 3 sets of 12 reps on smith with heavy weight. So I would say that its genetics that really matters.
Heres a tip Do Leg extensions and right after ur done with 10-12 do Standing calves for 50 then right back to Leg extension once done get up immediately and do 50 again and repeat that 3-5 sets Youll definitely Feel it and see it
Arnold did them on every workout. That's the best and sure proof approach if you have small calves. Do them every time you train. Between 6 and 12 sets
I’m sure you’ve all heard this, but calves have insertions and origin points as do all muscles and like all other muscles, genetics dictate those insertions and origin points. So yes, anyone can build bigger calves. The problem comes when your calves aren’t long, as in when the gastrocnemius and the solus turn into the Achilles tendon. That is decided by genetics and typically the longer the calf muscle is, the most aesthetic or the more “big” it will look as well as the better training will have on it. You can train your calves to get bigger like any muscle, you just cant train it to get longer
I love training calves- because that means leg day is over.
brooo we have the same mindsettt xd... i fking love that part
😁😁
Literally means there’s 3 more sets and you’re home and dry. Problem is I do 3x 3 drop sets Lol. Then at end of every drop set I do half reps to failure, then isometric hold. I take leg extensions over that bastard any day.
calves my second exercise after my first three sets of leg press
@@stewpleee leg presses as 1st and calves as 2nd exercise? who's your trainer!?
Dudes been retired for like over a decade and still looks insane
Happens when you use gear. Not even impressive .
@@Oneofthemones1 he takes radically less than when he was competinG
Trt benefits
@@Oneofthemones1 yea surely No work and dedication required
@@Oneofthemones1 Still. He has preserved his body integrity, lifts the way he wants and became a well rounded guy.
I feel calves are probably the most genetically limited muscles to build. Meaning that anyone can build theirs bigger, but some aren’t going to get the results they want. That goes with every body though, right? Calves are just even harder if you ain’t got them. I built much better calves by doing them every other day for years. Same lifts you show and talk here, Jay. Thanks
The shape (e.g. insertion points) of muscles is genetic.
Calves are particularly sensitive to shape.
My shins are very bowed and make my calves look funny.
exaclty, what most people miss about calves is the recovery period. you should literally work them every 2 days if you're have lagging calves. Once or twice a week youre wasting your time.
@@devonmartinbasson that sounds like some serious bro science
@@kingdribs9286 flexing/posing between sets, drop sets, supersets, was at one point also bro science. until enough people got results . but no one is forcing you.
@@devonmartinbasson It'll obviously work because as long as there's at least 2 days between workouts and enough stress being applied a muscle will grow. But you're on some BS saying 2x a week is useless,it'll work well too but not as fast. That's like saying training back or chest 2x a week is futile. It works but 3x is better for strength gains and hypertrophy too
"1 only stuck with 3 calf exercises in my career"
The only 3 calf exercises that really exist
There is more exercises pendeja
@@ricardoferreira2038hahaha what an insult
-casual
@@ricardoferreira2038eeey calmate guey
Really 😂 but There are better ones for people who have lack of equipments -
"Belt Calf Raises"
"Smith Machine Calf Raises"
"Single Leg DB Calf Raises"
And maybe seated calf raises with Leg Curl Machine
Jay really out here living his best life 👏
“Are calves genetic or can you build them? “
-proceeds to not answer question.
“Peak contraction at the top and a deep stretch at the bottom.”
- proceeds to bouncing half repetitions
😂
He did answer when he said he started out with small calves.
You really trying to make fun of the 50 year old dude that looks better than you ever will no matter how hard you try?
@@elpogio4890the point is he didn't demonstrate what he was teaching. doesn't matter what he looks like.
@@jamesrevere2992I would love to see his before. Mf is a bodybuilder what does small mean to him ?😅 its like asking a pro power lifter what's lightweight.
For real though. You’d think his reps would be slow and paused at top
My best advice ever is: Imagine pulling your heel into your knee. This really got me crazy pumps and definitely (finally) gains
I don’t know why more people aren’t realizing this is a great concept 🤷♂️
That's a good mental part to calf training, because that's literally what the whole muscle does essentially. Thank you for the tip!
I dont get it
Pull into your knee? What do you mean? Do you mean push into the knee?
Sorry but pulling your heel into your knee isn’t physically possible. We stick to science based training here not delusion but nice try
What are your favorite movements?
On “rest” days i like doing single leg raises on the stairs at home. Also supersetting any of these with tibialis anterior raises
Seeing you sir your r our motivation
All of them💪
Seated and straight leg raises on the leg press machine.
Non of yours
I preferred the leg press machine to do them.
Awesome coaching thanks !!! I’m actually getting ready to do calves NOW !!
This man is so humble. It's missing nowadays.
love to see you uploading so much Jay! you're one of my fav bodybuilders
Same here! 💪
he seems to have good genetics. maybe he could win a local but not a main event.
@Desi Boi nahh. guy would never make top 5.
Jay is a nice guy. Met him in Philly once.
thats pretty dope
Jay is the GOAT.
Best videos, short and straight to the point 👍
THIS!
Love training the calves. I like going for 7 reps toes pointing inward, 7 outwards and finally 7 straight. The rep range might be a little high but if you focus on progressive overloading and pushing yourself you get some insane results and a big pump :D
Ive seen highly respected pros say that pointing inwards or outwards is unnecessary, but the best growth I've experienced was doing just that
@@iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137 Same for me!
I tip toe around all day
@@popscola2574 i heard it builds bad habits tho, be careful
That's crazy...I thought I made this calf workout up. I do 10 reps and try for 3 sets. Genetics to pay a part but this will get you right!
I like to close my eyes when Jay talks and think he's Peter Griffin.
I’ve always struggled with small calves even after training them every day they weren’t sore for 2 years straight. Ive looked for just about every solution or workout routine possible and what I’d realized is most people with naturally big calves grew up with an athletic background or were overweight. When I started running 10 miles a week I grew almost an inch in two months. Sometimes the calves are not the issue, the ankle and tibialis muscle are just underdeveloped.
Love listening to Mr. Cutler, 4 Time Mr. Olympia
Jay cutler will always be one of my favorites
I do almost all sets in the 8-12 range for all muscle groups . . . except calves. I go 20-30 reps. For years I did 8-12 for calves too, but I never felt a burn or pump in that rep range, and the growth was so so. I get way better results with the high reps, who knows why. Might be worth a try for anyone struggling to beef their calves up.
That’s a great bit of advice there I took the same steps as he did
I noticed lighter weight but full range of motion is really what made them burn.
Still a beast! Stay healthy and safe! I love seeing fitness content without all the drama, just teaching good exerises and consitencey. Youre a legend man
That moment when it’s finally time for claves and u know it leg day is over that feeling is so priceless
I for sure believe they are genetic. My whole family has small calves. Although mine have gotten a little tiny bit bigger ever since I started to really train them.
Every muscle is controlled more by genetics than anything else. I've noticed forearms and calves tend to be linked, like big calves mean you can grow big forearms.
Bingo! Not too many people realize that.
No way, I have cannon forearms and small calves
@@johnbenton6681 now that I'd want to see
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.Tthere is this bodybuilder i saw on youtube yesterday. He was big, big upper legs but his calves were insanely tiny. Like he didnt train them at all
Double contraction by adding a bounce? That's some high level shit right there. Will try it
Somebody noticed!
Awesome video, great teacher. Thanks.
Calves are absolutely genetic but that doesn’t mean you can’t make any gains by working the shit outta them!
Not a body builder or even a real fan of the sport but I love to workout and this dude just resonates...keep up the great content
Best way to get massive calves is to get obese. I'm not even kidding. I used to be obese but even after I lost all my extra weight, I still have my big calves. I've never seen an obese person with calves that aren't massive and shredded
get Obeast. got it.
Fatman calves are a real thing
I've heard many people talk about this, I think it is relates to the concept of Nucleus Overload, when obese, your calves endure tons of volume (literally) every day just by you walking around, and thus over a long period of time become very well developed. I've never seen a fat person have small calves when they lost weight.
Morbidly a beast
Then you'd be one of those fat dudes in powerlifting......your place won't belong on a Bodybuilding stage.....
Man Jay looks ten years younger now vs his competition days.
Appreciate that crucial n valuable tip ...knowledge n technique...from a legendary n iconic bodybuilder...thnk mighty JC for that unbelievably beneficial tip...👍🙏✌
jay cutler looks like will ferrel in a muscle suit
When jay talks I LISTEN up. Thanks champ
I find Jay very likable and relatively humble. He cracjs ne up sometimes with what he teaches with his words and what he does with gis form. What he did worked for him and I think his unique way gets positive results for certain people. It's just funny when Jay says stuff like ass to grass squats while he does more parallel versions of hip to knee.
Im Tongan and sorry to brag but i literally never have worked out my calves and mine are big.
Us islanders in the pacific naturally have massive calves. I think its due to the food that we eat thats really high in protein and carbs. Also they're considered superfoods..
Calves are considered superfoods?! 😳
Genetics period.
The Boss.... Standing version also activates core muscles a lot
Best Leg ever 💀 JAY CUTLER
Tge music natches with his movements
jay cutler is still in a damn good shape and looks young too
Cutler is the best ex-bodybuilder, lookin in shape, healthy and young. Excelent example
Calves looking crisp
Love his honesty
Perfect advice 🤘🤘
"now I wanna give you guys a little tip"
-🏋🏻♀️
You’re the man Jay 💪 legend status. Thanks for the video
It's all about peak contraction
* bounces *
The Gym I’m currently training at doesn’t have calve machines so I do the ol Calve Presses(been doing em for years) usually with the same weight I press with so super set with high reps 20-15 at least.
Though I do enjoy Toe Raises when I find a machine
Ya I just do it on the leg press too, as long as you can get a good stretch at the bottom by having your heels hang off there isn’t much difference in these exercises, basically just the same thing at different angles.
Jay the King! Why are you bouncing like that pls explain what's difference with and without bouncing?
I'd like to know as well.
Same!
I've previously heard that a lot of people bounce too much which actually doesn't give that "deep stretch" at the bottom that he mentions.
Apparently it helps to let the mechanical tension dissipate before doing the next rep.
It looks like Jay might be doing an extra squeeze at the top of his movement to get that maximum contraction. So he's not bouncing, i think, instead I believe he's doing:
Lift, squeeze, lower
He just does it fast so it looks like a bounce.
But I'd love to hear if someone has other thoughts.
Crl, Jay ainda tá gigante
Sim mkkkkk
"Frequency and prioritization"
People who complain about small calves seem to do the same "few sets of standing and seated calf raises at the end of my leg workout". Try this, do them FIRST on your leg days and at the end of your upper body days.
With technique like that, calves are clearly genetic.
They are genetic
"I started with smaller calves"
Calves:🎈
Started with small calves, ended with small calves.
Politicians be like after a reporter asks a yes or no question:
Poses a question at the beginning… never answers the question 😂
What an absolute unit Jay is? 🔥💪
💯 calve burns and cramps. 😬💪
Why
Thanks for the tips jay and big up from Scotland 👍👍👍
The moment I saw that little double bounce he does: "HOLY SHIT REVOLUTIONARY"
Love the otomix. I got the old school sting rays
Masters Jay! you got this👍
Your insertions are what they are no matter what you do. Really high insertions means with a lot of work it'll look like a fist on the back of your leg. Work 'em anyway.
1. If someone has bad genetics for calves. Can taking PEDs increase the size ?
2. Does that mean that all competitors for Olympia open have good genetics for calves ?
Cutler is such a boss
Mountaindog, may he 🙏, was quoted saying, "If you have thick Calves and a Thick neck, you have good to even great genetics."
So, definitely.
THX Jay! Have a nice day! 💪🏻👊🏻
His calve is so huge that you dont even see it contract
Running/sprinting is a great way to build calf muscles.. also Olympic weightlifting movements..
You have to think that Arnold and Jay must have had good systems. They reached the top and are still banging
I was scrawny growing up. Life tragedies accrued, and I ballooned to almost 300lbs for a few years. Got my life on order, and took fitness very seriously. I'm now in the best shape of my life. My calves are the most shredded - which I believe is from carrying around all that fat for years.
LOL, He mentions he focused on a deep stretch at the bottom and proceeds to short stroke his standing calf raises.
I've never had to train calves. I've always had solid, vascular and shaped calves even as a kid. Did a lot of martial arts, soccer and running.
Jay, you don't have calves, you have cows.
Johnny Bravo 👏
Great. Advice
awesome light weight baby 💪
When I first started gym, I didn't noticed much difference in my upper body but my quads and calves both became big and defined. For calves I only did calve raises 3 sets of 12 reps on smith with heavy weight. So I would say that its genetics that really matters.
3 exercise for calves. Dude, that’s more than enough.
When all else fails, there's always synthols for calves
Skipping rope 10-20 mins before working out will get you bigger calves…. Seated calve raise, and doing calves on the inverted leg press… helps a lot.
Notice how he does the double rep. That’s important too
Heres a tip Do Leg extensions and right after ur done with 10-12 do Standing calves for 50 then right back to Leg extension once done get up immediately and do 50 again and repeat that 3-5 sets Youll definitely Feel it and see it
I have none of those machines at my gym
Doing calve raises on leg press are🔥
I have naturally big calves, so I'm pretty thankful I don't have to push them, I do some weightless donkey raises each leg day.
I just naturally have freakish calves.. I have to work the rest of my body extensively to keep up with them 😆
😂
Am I the only one who loves leg day ?
I was genetically born w amazing Calves. Best feeling when you walk in the gym and everyone is staring at those 3D rocks.
Calves still look shredded though.
Not the calves he had when he was competing.
Arnold did them on every workout. That's the best and sure proof approach if you have small calves. Do them every time you train. Between 6 and 12 sets
Love donkey...only ONE gym I've ever been to had the apparatus 😢 (Bally Total Fitness in the early 2000s)
Calves are genetic in certain ways which can’t be changed but they can get bigger more ripped and more defined
Perfect motion. Bouncy and explosive while pausing for contraction and squeezing at the top👍
The secret to big calves is do them as soon as you walk in the door. You will never skip them and its not like your gonna do calves and then leave.
Calves are absolutely genetic
Isn't it too fast?
Tiniest calves ever.
I’m sure you’ve all heard this, but calves have insertions and origin points as do all muscles and like all other muscles, genetics dictate those insertions and origin points. So yes, anyone can build bigger calves. The problem comes when your calves aren’t long, as in when the gastrocnemius and the solus turn into the Achilles tendon. That is decided by genetics and typically the longer the calf muscle is, the most aesthetic or the more “big” it will look as well as the better training will have on it. You can train your calves to get bigger like any muscle, you just cant train it to get longer