I've watched all the conversion videos on UA-cam and you win the award!!! I wish I could send it to all the other guys who tried to show us how to do this. They need to learn how simple the job should be! Thank you! Thank you!!
I watched 4 or 5 videos on how to convert fluorescent to Led. Each one was a bit different, in fact, one had me connecting each of the 4 end wires to the other ends wire. I tried one which had me removing all wires from one end totally and doing all connections for the other end. That one didn't work at all. Your simple method worked the first time. Thank you for the clear and simple instructions.
I appreciate your excellent video. A new ballast was more expensive than the LED upgrade. I got two nice 4 foot T8 bulbs at Lowes for $17 and they are 3 position adjustable which I really like. I followed your plan and everything was very simple. Now I have some much nicer and more efficient lighting for my wood shop. The little connectors are awesome and so much more convenient than wire nuts. The next time another light ballast goes out, I now know just what to do. Thanks again !!
This was the Video I needed - thank you - simplest conversion ever... Did mine in 15 min for the first one and 5 min there after... - All make sure you are wiring for Dual end Powered - that's probably the only gotcha. Some tubes are single end powered and are wired differently.
Thank you so much for your help. I fixed four tubes (two fixtures in less than ten minutes). Very helpfu! This is a big part of what UA-cam is made for.
@@Totallightingsupply I am replacing a ballast with battries one with four pins tube for two tube-AC. How can the wiring for done for four pins two tubes? Share if possible , thank you.
@@Dailymailnewz Here is a video that includes the most popular retrofit methods and a LED T8 tube that will work in all three. It may help 👉ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html
Outstanding instructions! Thanks for taking your time to help an otherwise helpless non-electrician. The directions that came with the LED lamps are simply ridiculous, so your video was crucial. Everything worked exactly as you stated.
By far the easiest and straightforward DIY video to convert fluorescent to led. Thank you! Completed 7 fixtures so far waiting on one 8' fluorescent fixture bulbs to give up the ghost then upgrade to led-)
Thank you for pointing out at 1:05 that the same tombstone can be used for both T12 and T8 sizes. The employee at the box store where I asked about this didn't know this, and told me I needed to buy a whole new fixture. Also good job explaining about the hot side vs. neutral side. 4:50 I think you meant "probably about 3/4 *inch* of the wire".
Of course, you needed a whole new fixture. More profit for them. More expense for you. Did you really think the employee was working for you? Yes, there were several wording errors in the video but most were respoken and corrected.
I wish I would have gotten my LED lights from you guys. You take all the guess work out of buying the right stuff and doing the job right. THANK YOU for this great video.
I wished in the video you would have discussed the types of bulbs. Ie type A, A+B & B. I did not realize there were different types so after converting per your instructions I inserted the type A , which I had on hand, and guess what, it lasted about 15 min. That is when I did more research and discovered the different types. Inserted the type B and success.
Glad you were able to troubleshoot it and resolve the problem 😃 At the making of this video there was talk of an A+B led lamp, which makes installation so much less confusing, but we were unable to get our hands on it. Now the A+B are more common. We did release a video last year discussing the differences between the A, A+B and B type LED lamps. You can see it here and it may help other future projects of yours, family members and friends doing a retrofit conversion to LED ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html - Have a blessed day!
Thank you for sharing! We are glad to hear that our video has helped give you the confidence to convert from Fluorescent to LED! Check out our complete kits that use the same components in the video to make the retrofit process even easier here www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html - Let us know if you have any questions 🙂
I just bought a vintage, mid century gooseneck desk lamp that I'm looking to convert to an LED as a small project. This was very helpful to let me know what I'm getting into.
Great video. All I do differently is to put the warning sticker where it can be seen without having to remove the belly pan, usually on the outside of the pan. That is rarely removed when just replacing lamps.
Thank you for sharing! Glad you enjoyed the video. The label should be placed in an area highly visible on the outside of the fixture. This was our bad and we didn't catch the mistake to later 🙂
6:04 'Be sure to put in your label'. That is a great point but why on the inside of the box. I would never open that part when replacing a bulb to see a warning label. Might I suggest on the outside of the cover?
If someone leaves the ballast wired in the fixture and simply swaps the fluorescent lamps for the LED lamps and they do light up, is the fixture drawing more power than it would if you removed the ballast?
Depends on what power the ballast is putting out but it sounds like if the LED lamps came on then the lamps are not Type-B dual end powered LED T8 Tubes. Sounds like Type-A which are designed to be used with the ballast still electrically connected and powered. Since our LED T8 Tubes are Type-B they are designed for use with 120-277VAC and leaving the ballast electrically connected and powering our tubes will probably cause unforeseen damage voiding any warranty and most likely shortening the lifespan of the lamp. Hope that helps 🙂
Finally a good explanation. Put more emphases on the replace bulb.. You are replacing T-12 or T8 with a T8 LED Double Ended? There is the confusion I replaced with P&P because they were up 14 ft in garage,
We are using our EZ LED T8 Kit you can find a link in the video description to or here ➡www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html 🙂
Is that for a "double ended" conversion? How do we know which one it is when we look at the innards (ballast and wiring) of the florescent tube before converting to LED? It would be very helpful to us "newbies" if you explained that first.
This video is for a double ended conversion. The best thing is to familiarize yourself with the wiring diagram and match the fixture wiring to the diagram. You can find wiring the diagram here www.totalbulklighting.com/ez-led-t8-installation.html 🙂
On my tombstones they are the type where they push in and no twisting needed. Both bulbs have ends with a single nipple on the ends. The fixtures are 8'ers. Do these fixture wire the same as like the ones in the video?
Our LED tubes are not compatible with that type of tombstone. We use to offer an 8 foot conversion kit that would allow for converting to the twist lock but unfortunately we are unable to keep a reliable source for these retrofit kits. As long as you follow the wiring diagram you when retrofitting you should be fine. If you are uncertain we highly recommend using a licensed electrician 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply I've got led bulbs that have the nipple ends on both ends and my fixture takes that type of bulb. So? If I wire it like your video and remove the ballast I should be ok. Correct?
@@russellhowell9854 Since we do not sell T8 LED Tubes with a single pin at the end like the one you are describing the only recommendation we can provide is retrofitting to the twist lock method like you see in the video. Doing so will most likely require the removal of the old tombstones and replacing with brackets that the new tombstones will attach too. As always follow the wiring diagram that comes with your LED Tubes and retrofit method. Hope that helps 🙂
I have a question. 8 have some old 8' fixtures with the single pin connectors. I kinda want to keep them using 8'bulbs but want to convert them to led since the old fluorescent bulbs that size are hard to find. Got any products like this?
We do offer a 8-foot option here but it is not compatible with all 8' fixtures so make sure yours is compatible 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
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4:10 Does it matter which end you pick to be neutral and which end is hot? Or do you have to put the tube in so that the end marked "L" is at the hot end?
I did exactly as the video lays out. I actually have the same keystone light fixture. When I turn the light on, they turn on, but they're incredibly dim. I'm using GE Led bulbs I got from the home improvement store. Do bulbs differ?
Yes, bulbs do differ. Some LED dims. Some LED does not. It's so important to know what the bulb's lumens, color temperature, CRI, double end powered, single end powered. There are so many variables and most online stores just sell a product with little to no support. It helps to talk with someone who knows the product in a market flooded by huge quality differences.
@@Totallightingsupply I guess i should have prefaced my comment with this small bit of information. Before I retrofitted anything I first installed the led bulbs in the original fixture with the ballast in place. They came on, and were very bright, but they would only stay on for 2 or 3 seconds then they would go out. Which is what brought me to this UA-cam video. What kind of bulb do I need to buy to run in this retrofitted setup?
@@stevenrasmussen23 This video deals with retrofitting for double end powered LED T8 lamps. Meaning the power comes into the LED at each end. You may have purchased single end where the power comes in at only 1 end. Single end LED tubes will not work in this retrofit application.
@@stevenrasmussen23 We offer an easy kit that includes the lamps that is used in the video. You can find it here www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html
I bought 2 led tubes, removed the old bulbs and install the led bulbs. I didn’t change any wiring or remove the ballast. The worked just fine. Why remove the ballast?
I just took down a fluorescent fitting. Gone in the dustbin. Unboxed the Led replacement. They r like holding some feathers and so difficult to install as it is so flimsy. Regreting destroying the old one. Now i just want to upgrade my existing fittings. Dont know about the ballast. But if it works, who cares. From Cyprus
Some reason to remove the ballast is that It removes a point of failure, helps reduce energy consumption, is require for certain rebates and is also required for type-B LED T8 tubes as shown in this video. Hope that shines some light on the topic 🙂
I recently replaced a 2 lamp fixture T12 with LEDs. No conversion needed, just replace the bulb without removing ballast. Is there an advantage to this method?
The biggest advantage for the double end retrofit method shown in this video is that it's not dependent on the ballast and it is the fastest and easiest ballast by-pass retrofit method we have found. The issue with using Type-A LED lamps that are dependent on the existing ballast is that eventually the fluorescent ballast is going to fail and you will have two choices to make. 1️⃣Either purchase a new fluorescent ballast and continue to be dependent on outdated lighting technology that will most likely not be manufactured in the years to come and pay more in electricity to power the ballast or 2️⃣Retrofit the fixture and by-pass / remove the ballast, replacing the Type-A LED lamps with Type-B. Fortunately, a new LED T8 Lamp has arrived in the market. It is a Type-A+B and works in all retrofit situations. We have a video on this flexible LED T8 lamp here 👉 ua-cam.com/video/28YBLBNmhKo/v-deo.html. This lamp is the best of both worlds. You can use it in your existing fluorescent fixture as long as the ballast is a compatible T8 electronic ballast. Once that ballast fails you can retrofit your fixture like the method in this video and the lamps will still work. It is a great alternative and will save you money in the long run. Hope this helps 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you for the answer. I had already replaced the T12 ballast right before seeing your video. I wish I had seen the video first.
Electricians quoted me couple thousand to do this job few years back for one of my property. I paid a couple hundred for him to do maybe 4 of the fixtures, I watched and realized how ridiculously easy it was and then I did the rest myself. Contractors in the US are such scammers.
The tombstones at the end where you connected to the hot wire had two wires coming out of each tombstone. Can this procedure be used if the tombstones only had one wire coming out of each tombstone? Like a shunted tombstone?
As long as you follow the wiring diagram in the video description above, shunted or non-shunted will work. However, we have found that the majority of LED T8 or T12 fluorescent fixtures tend use shunted tombstones. Hope that helps :)
The beautiful thing about Double End Powered LED T8 tubes is that they are very versatile. They can be used with both shunted and non-shunted tombstones as long as you following the wiring diagram and your local code. Here's the diagram 👉www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf
Sounds like you have the wrong LED T8 tubes for the retrofit method you used. The tubes you are using sound like Type-A tubes that require an electronic ballast to operate. The video is demonstrating Type-B dual powered or double powered LED T8 tubes where the ballast has been bypassed and in the video completely removed. Maybe you can exchange the tubes for dual powered Type-B.
Enjoy you video and am about to convert 2 shop lights for my garage but a question first because I want to get it right. When I opened up the lights, there are 3 bulbs. All are 48 inch T8 bulbs with G13 pin bases. Is the conversion the same for a 3 light fixture and if not would the light work with just 2 bulbs? I don't want to get it wrong and have fireworks! I intend to use ballast bypass bulbs as well.
As long as you follow the wiring diagram and are using Double End Powered LED T8 tubes there shouldn't be any issues converting a 3 tube T12 or T8 fluorescent fixture to LED. You can find the wiring diagram in the video description or click on it here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf
This is the first time something doesnot work for me. My wires weren't long enough so I had to buy 2 wires white and black taped them up took balast out what do you think it could be
First, make sure you have the correct LED T8 Tubes. This video is for converting to dual end powered LED T8 tubes. It will not work with single end powered LED T8 tubes. Then I would check to make sure you are getting power to the LED tubes. Get a voltage multi-meter to check the tombstones / sockets to make sure there is power. Hope that helps 🙂
Typically no but if you have a Universal / A+B LED T8 Tube like then ones here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html than it will work with this retrofit method.
Very cool. I need to convert my kitchen florescent ceiling tube lights to LEDs but some of the clips that connect the done of the tubes are cracked/ broken so... what then? Replace the entire housing? I'd rather just put in an LED panel if that's the case as i hate the design of the double ended tubes and trying to align them and locked in place always drives me crazy.
If the sockets are cracked or broken replacing them is the best thing to do. As for an LED panel vs tubes that's a more personal decision. I like the ability to easily replace the tubes if for some reason the tube fails prematurely or I want a higher lumen light or different color temperature 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply right, its a small squarish thing, but the one wire runs from the ballast to to the starter then from the starter to the tombstone...i think ill just buy a new fixture...lol...
@@ToddYoungonline There are so many light fixtures out there that it makes it difficult to know what would be best without being there on site 🙂 So a new fixture may be the best choice as an electrician can be costly 😊 Have a happy new year!
Can I mix match LED with Regular Tube Florescent light fixtures? In my kitchen ceiling lights, I have a total of 3 DUAL T12 Florescent Tubes. Can I replace only ONE set with LED and the remaining TWO DUAL T12 Florescent tubes will stay active. All 3 DUAL Tubes used only ONE POWER ON/OFF Switch. Will there be a long term effect on the LED lights? Please advise
The tubes used in this video you will not be able to mix and match fluorescent and LED tubes. We offer a universal Type A+B LED T8 Tube that works with many existing T8 electronic ballasts but not T12. Best thing is to start here as it will help you find the right LED tube for your application www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html 🙂
Just finished removing the ballast, but the bulbs are dim not bright. Of course after I removed the ballast I noticed the bulbs said, “Ballast compatible”. Any advice?
Sounds like you have Type-A LED T8 bulbs which require the ballast to work. If you used the retrofit method shown in this video you have a Dual End Powered method and will need Type-B Double End Powered LED T8 tubes. Thankfully we sell a Universal LED T8 Bulb that will work in all 3 popular retrofit methods including the Dual End Powered method shown in this video. You can find those tubes here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html - Hope this helps 🙂
In this video, the type of conversion shown here prevents you from using fluorescent tubes. So you can not have LED tubes and fluorescent tubes together. Hope that helps 🙂
Before I found this video, I went ahead and replace 2-tube (48")T8 fluorescent lights with 2 LED tubes that I got at home depot that said for T8. I didn't have to do any of this conversion. Why is that? Do I need to be concerned about anything done wrong?
It would have been better to show these smaller daylight bulbs, installed in a fixture, in a garage of workshop and turn them on. I can not speak for others, but I would like to see what the illumination appears in a real work situation. Thanks for the info.
Sounds like you installed Type-A LED T8 tubes that don't require any rewiring or socket replacement. We now offer a universal T8 LED tube that works in all three retrofit applications with or without a ballast. Check it out here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html
I bought a pack of 2 LED at Walmart but it only works with the ballast ,The moment I delete the ballast it won't work.Can you tell me why?I did the wiring right and checked the voltage it is 125 volts so must be the LED is made for ballast to work.
The retrofit method shown in this video is strictly for Type-B LED T8 tubes which require the ballast to be removed. If the tubes you purchased require the ballast it sounds like you have Type-A tubes that are designed to work with a ballast. Hope that helps 🙂
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I have a question. When you wire the light like this with all hot on one side and all neutral on the other, it does not matter whether the tombstones are shunted or non-shunted?
As along as you follow the wiring diagram making sure power is flowing properly to the tube it should not matter the type of tombstone you are using. Keep in mind shunted tombstones are electrically separated and may require jumping so that both tabs that contact the tube pins are providing power. We always recommend consulting a local licensed electrician to make sure local code is followed and connections and wring are done correctly. Hope that helps 🙂
Thank you for your video explaining how easy it is to convert light fixtures to LED. I would like to convert the light fixtures under the kinchen cabinets to LED.
Unfortunately we do not offer a kit that retrofits fluorescent under cabinet lights to LED. We do offer LED under cabinet light fixtures that can be found here if that helps www.totalrecessedlighting.com/under-cabinet-lighting/led-under-cabinet.html 😊
@@Totallightingsupply I have never had very good luck with LED lights, and I guess it is just me, but I cannot be in a room lit by them because i get a headache in like 10 minutes. so all of my shops are lit by fluorescent lights, but the newer ones with the electronic ballast seem to not last very long and always burn up in less than 3 years. so I use old lights that are from the 1950s that i got from an old shop that was closing and they still have the original preheat magnetic ballasts and they still work great and never give me any issues.
We do have a LED conversion kit for 8-foot T12 fluorescent 2-tube lights 🙂 You can find it here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you for the reply! I ended up recycling the twist on connectors that were already there. Sad part, my electrician buddy forgot to get me his contractor discount, so I paid way too much for my tubes.
Great Video! My light fixture, the ballast has 2 wires on one side and 4 on the other. The neutral side termination will have 5 wires, the hot side will have 3 wires. Will this be acceptable?
As long as the electrical follows the wire diagram shown here www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf then it should work just fine :)
I have a neutral wire running between two tombstones one the one end does this make a difference on weather I make that end my hot end or neutral end? Great video by the way!!!
I have a fixture using F48T12-CW-HO BULBS. These have a different base . I would like to change the bases to tombstone type and replace with LED ‘s. I don’t ned high output devices. Is there a kit for this?
I am sorry we do not have a retrofit kit for those type of fluorescent fixtures. However, an electrician might be able to rewire your fixture to accept LED version of the F48T12-CW-HO bulbs.
They now make LED lamps that use the ballast. No rewire necessary. Occasionally an older ballast will need to be replaced if they don't come back on when the switch is cycled or after power goes out.
You are right and it makes it super easy. However, not every project is the same and a direct replacement won't work. That is why we offer the universal Type A+B bulb that works without wiring and with retrofitting. It's a great way to convert to LED and when the ballast fails you can still use the tube with rewiring like shown in this video. We did a video on this a few months back. You can see how that tube works here 👉 ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html 🙂
We do but the single end powered retrofit method is not the ideal way to retrofit fluorescent T8 or T12 fixtures. The double end powered retrofit method shown in this video is recommended but here's the single end video 👉 ua-cam.com/video/Zjw2UXVJaS0/v-deo.html 🙂
I have what I believe is a important question ??? Can I use an off the shelf double ended t8 LED ??? The reason I ask is because the package says ballest dependent ?
Any Type-B (ballast bypass) double end powered LED T8 lamp will work with the retrofit method in this video. Sounds like you have a Type-A LED tube that requires the t8 ballast to be electrically connected to the fluorescent fixture. Type-A will not work with the retrofit method shown in this video. I hope that helps clarify 🙂
I have a T12 fluorescent 1tube light. I followed the directions to convert to a T8 LED. After the connections, I have power to the wires but my light does not work. ????
There are lots of variables but make sure the LED tube is a Type-B not a Type-A. We see this common mistake often. Type-B bypasses the ballast where as Type-A can only be used with the existing ballast. When in doubt contact the business you purchased the tube from for more information on the tube Hopefully that helps 🙂
We do offer a solution but unfortunately this kit is for single end powered LED T8 tubes. You can find out more here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
It is 80 but since LED technology is improving all the time I recommend going to our website for the most accurate information 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/ez-t8-led-tubes.html
Simple instructions; I have GE single pole 8 ft led light follow your steps, change the sockets, still no light, tested the wires coming in the fixture and it works, what I'm doing wrong?
Make sure your LED Tubes are Type-B and receive power from both ends. See this video on popular LED Tube types and retrofit methods. ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html maybe it will help shed some light on your situation 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply thanks for the reply. You mention that about 99 percent of fixtures this will work for. How do I know if it will work for mine before trying/buying your kit
@@zootybeano Gotcha, LOL 😊 Sounds very interesting and challenging too 🙂 Most of our T8 / T12 Fluorescent parts are specific to converting to fluorescent to LED. We do offer a variety of low voltage electronic transformers with small form factors where many of our customers have used them to prolong the life of their light fixtures, saving them from the landfill. Here's a link to those 👉 www.totaltransformers.com/electronic-transformers.html
This ballast bypass install on liner led lamp is dangerous due to the sockets not being rated for it. I checked with Leviton and talked to an engineer and he confirmed that the sockets are not rated for it.. Bi pin lamps make limited contact in the socket which overheats and melts, out here in California I've see 5 fires do to this install one burnt half a Bed,Bath,and Beyond down. On liner led lamp alway have an led driver or fluorescent compatible ballast to protect the sockets. You can do a ballast bypass on CFL lamps as the pins are making a 360 degree contact. A little background I'm a 25 year electrician working for one of the largest electrical contractors in Sacramento.
Interesting point. The lamps are UL approved to be used in this manner. The question I would have in those 5 cases you mention is were the fixtures wired correctly and were the lamps rated for the application? Thanks for sharing your concern 🙂
I agree Jerry. Some videos show using one-sided LED tubes and state how the one-sided are safer than dual-sided. Then there's the shunted, non-shunted tombstone issue, using an ohm meter. The difference in approaches to these conversions has given me a headache.
Seems to be three types. One is the single-ended bulb where al, the power connections are at one end and use the non-shunted tombstones. Another is the double-ended bulb as shown in this video. Third is the type you just simply install without changing anything. The third one doesn't make sense unless you're totally freaked out by electricity and don't want to mess with wiring; the ballast is still there sucking power and prone to failure. If you watched right to the end of the video, he mentioned all three types being available for purchase in the store (last 10-20 seconds). The only caution I never see them mention is you probably should stick with one type of conversion and clearly mark it on the outside of the fixture. Putting a single end bulb in a double end conversion after a bulb failure (or vice versa) could cause some problems. They all seem to believe the 50,000 hour bulb life guarantee is real. They may not all fail, but some certainly will, and LED's degrade over time. Might not fail, but probably change color and brightness down the road.
There is a lot of confusion out there. You are correct, there are three ways to convert a fluorescent T8 or T12 fixture at this time as you have mentioned. With our kits, we include a label you a-fix to the fixture to help convey to anyone doing maintenance that the fixture has been retrofitted to LED. Our Double End Powered Kits label indicates the type of retrofit applied. If you compare the wiring of the LED T8 fixture with our our wiring diagrams you will quickly see which type is being used. If you are unsure, knowing electrically based on the wiring is the best approach as things can be easily mislabeled. We made this FAQ recently to help mitigate the confusion out there 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/blog/2020/01/10/converting-fluorescent-t8-or-t12-to-led-t8-tubelight-faq/
Hi total lighting guy's :-). OMG what an Awesome tutorial. Straight to the point :-)! I was in the process of deciding whether to convert my fluorescent to an LED. My issue is that I just recently purchased several 8 watt 12 inch T5 fluorescent bulbs and need to know if I change the fixture over, will I be able to use those bulbs, or does your company carry this size in LED? Also, is the LED brighter than the fluorescent? I need brightness under my kitchen cabinets and cost effective options....Please advise...Thanks
Unfortunately we do not carry a 12 inch t5 LED tube for retrofit applications. We do provide LED under cabinet lights which you can find here: www.totalrecessedlighting.com/under-cabinet-lighting.html We find LED is typically brighter but you have to look at the lumens of the LED and fluorescent to know if you will have a brighter LED.
Hi... Nice Video EXCEPT at the end you rush thru "single-ended" Double-ended" and one more that you flashed by so quickly I did not catch. What's the story please with the different "ends"
It depends on the LED Tube you are using. If it is Type-B that brings power into both ends then this retrofit method concept would work. You just need to know what type of LED T8 Tube you are using. Best thing is to contact the place you purchased from 🙂
Please see our website that better explains the difference between Double End Powered Tubes as shown in this video and Single End Powered tubes that require non-shunted sockets here 👉www.totalbulklighting.com/led-t8-double-end-powered-tubes-vs-single-end.html
Unfortunately at this time, we do not having kits to convert over a Dazor desk lamp. I would check to see what type of fluorescent is used in the lamp and see if there is a replacement LED tube 🙂
Only a superior mind could have produced such an outstandingly clear and concise instructional video about this confusing topic.
Thank you for the kind words! Sounds like our video was very helpful for you 🙂
I've watched all the conversion videos on UA-cam and you win the award!!! I wish I could send it to all the other guys who tried to show us how to do this. They need to learn how simple the job should be! Thank you! Thank you!!
Awh, thank you for the 🏆 and you're very welcome 🙂
I recently converted a 36 year old fixture to LED lighting with this same conversion. Your video was much easier to follow than the one I utilized!
We are so glad our video was easier to follow 😃 We try to keep it simple 🙂
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I watched 4 or 5 videos on how to convert fluorescent to Led. Each one was a bit different, in fact, one had me connecting each of the 4 end wires to the other ends wire. I tried one which had me removing all wires from one end totally and doing all connections for the other end. That one didn't work at all. Your simple method worked the first time. Thank you for the clear and simple instructions.
You're very welcome! So glad to hear you found our video helpful 🙂
I appreciate your excellent video. A new ballast was more expensive than the LED upgrade. I got two nice 4 foot T8 bulbs at Lowes for $17 and they are 3 position adjustable which I really like. I followed your plan and everything was very simple. Now I have some much nicer and more efficient lighting for my wood shop. The little connectors are awesome and so much more convenient than wire nuts. The next time another light ballast goes out, I now know just what to do. Thanks again !!
Glad to hear our video was helpful 🙂
This was the Video I needed - thank you - simplest conversion ever... Did mine in 15 min for the first one and 5 min there after... - All make sure you are wiring for Dual end Powered - that's probably the only gotcha. Some tubes are single end powered and are wired differently.
Glad our video could help 🙂
Thank you so much for your help. I fixed four tubes (two fixtures in less than ten minutes). Very helpfu! This is a big part of what UA-cam is made for.
We are so glad our video helped! We agree, UA-cam is a great resource for projects like this 👍
Enriching Exchanges originally it was, now it’s made for ads.. lol
@@Totallightingsupply I am replacing a ballast with battries one with four pins tube for two tube-AC. How can the wiring for done for four pins two tubes? Share if possible , thank you.
@@Dailymailnewz Here is a video that includes the most popular retrofit methods and a LED T8 tube that will work in all three. It may help 👉ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html
Outstanding instructions! Thanks for taking your time to help an otherwise helpless non-electrician. The directions that came with the LED lamps are simply ridiculous, so your video was crucial. Everything worked exactly as you stated.
Glad to hear you found our video helpful 🙂
Best instruction out there. Didn’t over complicate it (coming from a guy who tends to over complicate / analyze things). 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed our video 🙂
By far the easiest and straightforward DIY video to convert fluorescent to led. Thank you! Completed 7 fixtures so far waiting on one 8' fluorescent fixture bulbs to give up the ghost then upgrade to led-)
You're very welcome! So glad our video helped 😊
All I can say is, WOW. I thought the Conversion to LED would be Expensive and Complicated. Thank You for the Great Video.
Glad you found our video helpful!
Thank you for pointing out at 1:05 that the same tombstone can be used for both T12 and T8 sizes. The employee at the box store where I asked about this didn't know this, and told me I needed to buy a whole new fixture. Also good job explaining about the hot side vs. neutral side. 4:50 I think you meant "probably about 3/4 *inch* of the wire".
So glad our video was helpful 🙂
Of course, you needed a whole new fixture. More profit for them. More expense for you. Did you really think the employee was working for you? Yes, there were several wording errors in the video but most were respoken and corrected.
Kit is as easy to use as seen in the video. The light is so much brighter in my garage. Thank you for a great product.
Thank you for sharing your experience! We are glad to hear it was easy to install and brings brighter light to your garage 😃
I wish I would have gotten my LED lights from you guys. You take all the guess work out of buying the right stuff and doing the job right. THANK YOU for this great video.
You are very welcome! Glad our video was helpful 🙂
I wished in the video you would have discussed the types of bulbs. Ie type A, A+B & B. I did not realize there were different types so after converting per your instructions I inserted the type A , which I had on hand, and guess what, it lasted about 15 min. That is when I did more research and discovered the different types. Inserted the type B and success.
Glad you were able to troubleshoot it and resolve the problem 😃 At the making of this video there was talk of an A+B led lamp, which makes installation so much less confusing, but we were unable to get our hands on it. Now the A+B are more common. We did release a video last year discussing the differences between the A, A+B and B type LED lamps. You can see it here and it may help other future projects of yours, family members and friends doing a retrofit conversion to LED ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html - Have a blessed day!
The first video that I watched got me confused. But your video was so clear and easy that it got me motivated to do the conversion.
Thank you for sharing! We are glad to hear that our video has helped give you the confidence to convert from Fluorescent to LED! Check out our complete kits that use the same components in the video to make the retrofit process even easier here www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html - Let us know if you have any questions 🙂
I just bought a vintage, mid century gooseneck desk lamp that I'm looking to convert to an LED as a small project. This was very helpful to let me know what I'm getting into.
Glad our video was helpful to you 🙂
Great video. All I do differently is to put the warning sticker where it can be seen without having to remove the belly pan, usually on the outside of the pan. That is rarely removed when just replacing lamps.
Thank you for sharing! Glad you enjoyed the video. The label should be placed in an area highly visible on the outside of the fixture. This was our bad and we didn't catch the mistake to later 🙂
Ordered twice - these work great and so easy to install.
So glad to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience 🙂
Couldn't be easier, super satisfied with the kit, and it only took a few minutes :) Thanks
Glad to hear our kit and video helped make it an easy install! Have a blessed day 🙂
Your video was the easiest to follow of them all. Direct to the point and brief, what more can you ask for?!
Glad you found our video helpful and informative 🙂
Thank you! This is so helpful! It's just me and my mom in the house, and this was simple enough for us to follow!
You're very welcome! So glad to hear our video helped with your project 🙂
Wow, after 8 video’s, this is the easiest explanation
So glad our video was easy to follow 🙂
Best video I’ve seen. Easy to understand and simple instructions. Thanks a million
So glad to hear our video was helpful! Have a blessed week 🙂
T-8 or T-12 Tube Ends = the Same Size 👍 woooooo
Thanks. I was a little confused about the T sizes and you clear that up!
So glad that our video could be of some help 🙂 If you haven't done so already please like and share the video so others too can benefit 😊 Blessings!
6:04 'Be sure to put in your label'. That is a great point but why on the inside of the box. I would never open that part when replacing a bulb to see a warning label. Might I suggest on the outside of the cover?
Yes, this was our mistake. It should go on the outside of the ballast cover 😊
If someone leaves the ballast wired in the fixture and simply swaps the fluorescent lamps for the LED lamps and they do light up, is the fixture drawing more power than it would if you removed the ballast?
Depends on what power the ballast is putting out but it sounds like if the LED lamps came on then the lamps are not Type-B dual end powered LED T8 Tubes. Sounds like Type-A which are designed to be used with the ballast still electrically connected and powered. Since our LED T8 Tubes are Type-B they are designed for use with 120-277VAC and leaving the ballast electrically connected and powering our tubes will probably cause unforeseen damage voiding any warranty and most likely shortening the lifespan of the lamp. Hope that helps 🙂
TYYYYY Fond this video when searching for why the brand new LED T8 bulbs I just bought were not working. Figured they were just plug and play.
You're very welcome 🙂
3:31 This works for the two pin 90 degree twist in / out. What about the push pin style? Do they make LED push pin bulbs?
We have not been able to source an LED version like that but doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Sorry we couldn't be of more help 🙂
Finally a good explanation. Put more emphases on the replace bulb.. You are replacing T-12 or T8 with a T8 LED Double Ended? There is the confusion I replaced with P&P because they were up 14 ft in garage,
We are using our EZ LED T8 Kit you can find a link in the video description to or here ➡www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html 🙂
You could just gang them together and use a spin tight connector. Possibly yellow or red.
My light fixture only have one tube,, how do I go around?
One end would be neutral and the other end would be positive
Is that for a "double ended" conversion?
How do we know which one it is when we look at the innards (ballast and wiring) of the florescent tube before converting to LED?
It would be very helpful to us "newbies" if you explained that first.
This video is for a double ended conversion. The best thing is to familiarize yourself with the wiring diagram and match the fixture wiring to the diagram. You can find wiring the diagram here www.totalbulklighting.com/ez-led-t8-installation.html 🙂
On my tombstones they are the type where they push in and no twisting needed. Both bulbs have ends with a single nipple on the ends. The fixtures are 8'ers. Do these fixture wire the same as like the ones in the video?
Our LED tubes are not compatible with that type of tombstone. We use to offer an 8 foot conversion kit that would allow for converting to the twist lock but unfortunately we are unable to keep a reliable source for these retrofit kits. As long as you follow the wiring diagram you when retrofitting you should be fine. If you are uncertain we highly recommend using a licensed electrician 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply I've got led bulbs that have the nipple ends on both ends and my fixture takes that type of bulb. So? If I wire it like your video and remove the ballast I should be ok. Correct?
@@russellhowell9854 Since we do not sell T8 LED Tubes with a single pin at the end like the one you are describing the only recommendation we can provide is retrofitting to the twist lock method like you see in the video. Doing so will most likely require the removal of the old tombstones and replacing with brackets that the new tombstones will attach too. As always follow the wiring diagram that comes with your LED Tubes and retrofit method. Hope that helps 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks
I have a question. 8 have some old 8' fixtures with the single pin connectors. I kinda want to keep them using 8'bulbs but want to convert them to led since the old fluorescent bulbs that size are hard to find. Got any products like this?
We do offer a 8-foot option here but it is not compatible with all 8' fixtures so make sure yours is compatible 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
Thank you
Why do florescents have to be soooooo complicated?
Because it is invented by filipino.
@@ligayaen01 Agapito Flores was a brilliant man. It's arguable that he invented it, but definitely contributed greatly. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1932359870145922&id=1068783669836884
Removing the ballast also makes it easier to hold the fixture to re-mount to the ceiling.
4:10 Does it matter which end you pick to be neutral and which end is hot? Or do you have to put the tube in so that the end marked "L" is at the hot end?
No, for dual end powered tubes or universal LED t8 tubes we sell it does not matter which side is hot or neutral 🙂
Finally a good wiring explanation.
Glad you found it informative 🙂
wow this is stupid simple. i just ordered enough for 4 bulb replacement. thanks!
You're welcome! Glad you found our video helpful 🙂
I did exactly as the video lays out. I actually have the same keystone light fixture. When I turn the light on, they turn on, but they're incredibly dim. I'm using GE Led bulbs I got from the home improvement store. Do bulbs differ?
Yes, bulbs do differ. Some LED dims. Some LED does not. It's so important to know what the bulb's lumens, color temperature, CRI, double end powered, single end powered. There are so many variables and most online stores just sell a product with little to no support. It helps to talk with someone who knows the product in a market flooded by huge quality differences.
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I guess i should have prefaced my comment with this small bit of information. Before I retrofitted anything I first installed the led bulbs in the original fixture with the ballast in place. They came on, and were very bright, but they would only stay on for 2 or 3 seconds then they would go out. Which is what brought me to this UA-cam video. What kind of bulb do I need to buy to run in this retrofitted setup?
@@stevenrasmussen23 This video deals with retrofitting for double end powered LED T8 lamps. Meaning the power comes into the LED at each end. You may have purchased single end where the power comes in at only 1 end. Single end LED tubes will not work in this retrofit application.
@@Totallightingsupply
Okay. Thanks. I'll take them back and see what they have. Do you offer them?
@@stevenrasmussen23 We offer an easy kit that includes the lamps that is used in the video. You can find it here www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/ez-t8-led-4-foot-kits.html
Just an FYI, you don't remove the spring clip, you just turn it 90 degrees to remove the panel.
Thank you for sharing 🙂
I bought 2 led tubes, removed the old bulbs and install the led bulbs. I didn’t change any wiring or remove the ballast. The worked just fine. Why remove the ballast?
I just took down a fluorescent fitting. Gone in the dustbin. Unboxed the Led replacement. They r like holding some feathers and so difficult to install as it is so flimsy. Regreting destroying the old one. Now i just want to upgrade my existing fittings. Dont know about the ballast. But if it works, who cares. From Cyprus
Some reason to remove the ballast is that It removes a point of failure, helps reduce energy consumption, is require for certain rebates and is also required for type-B LED T8 tubes as shown in this video. Hope that shines some light on the topic 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply thank u
@@antonios4926 You're very welcome! Have a blessed week 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Have a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year to u too.
I recently replaced a 2 lamp fixture T12 with LEDs. No conversion needed, just replace the bulb without removing ballast. Is there an advantage to this method?
The biggest advantage for the double end retrofit method shown in this video is that it's not dependent on the ballast and it is the fastest and easiest ballast by-pass retrofit method we have found. The issue with using Type-A LED lamps that are dependent on the existing ballast is that eventually the fluorescent ballast is going to fail and you will have two choices to make. 1️⃣Either purchase a new fluorescent ballast and continue to be dependent on outdated lighting technology that will most likely not be manufactured in the years to come and pay more in electricity to power the ballast or 2️⃣Retrofit the fixture and by-pass / remove the ballast, replacing the Type-A LED lamps with Type-B. Fortunately, a new LED T8 Lamp has arrived in the market. It is a Type-A+B and works in all retrofit situations. We have a video on this flexible LED T8 lamp here 👉 ua-cam.com/video/28YBLBNmhKo/v-deo.html. This lamp is the best of both worlds. You can use it in your existing fluorescent fixture as long as the ballast is a compatible T8 electronic ballast. Once that ballast fails you can retrofit your fixture like the method in this video and the lamps will still work. It is a great alternative and will save you money in the long run. Hope this helps 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you for the answer. I had already replaced the T12 ballast right before seeing your video. I wish I had seen the video first.
Electricians quoted me couple thousand to do this job few years back for one of my property. I paid a couple hundred for him to do maybe 4 of the fixtures, I watched and realized how ridiculously easy it was and then I did the rest myself. Contractors in the US are such scammers.
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Isn't that what people do?
The tombstones at the end where you connected to the hot wire had two wires coming out of each tombstone. Can this procedure be used if the tombstones only had one wire coming out of each tombstone? Like a shunted tombstone?
As long as you follow the wiring diagram in the video description above, shunted or non-shunted will work. However, we have found that the majority of LED T8 or T12 fluorescent fixtures tend use shunted tombstones. Hope that helps :)
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks, that helps a lot.
Excellent! Short and concise. Thanks for posting this video.
You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙂
You didn’t talk about shunted and non-shunted tombstones. What if you have shunted tombstones (one wire to it) would this install work the same way?
The beautiful thing about Double End Powered LED T8 tubes is that they are very versatile. They can be used with both shunted and non-shunted tombstones as long as you following the wiring diagram and your local code. Here's the diagram 👉www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf
I did this like you did and nothing. The t8’s I have says power with electronic ballasts only. Is there a difference
Sounds like you have the wrong LED T8 tubes for the retrofit method you used. The tubes you are using sound like Type-A tubes that require an electronic ballast to operate. The video is demonstrating Type-B dual powered or double powered LED T8 tubes where the ballast has been bypassed and in the video completely removed. Maybe you can exchange the tubes for dual powered Type-B.
you are correct. got the right ones and they work perfectly. thanks
@@Totallightingsupply
@@slim22nun So glad to hear things are working great! Have a blessed week 🙂
If you shut off the circuit breaker, how would a plug-in light work? Just a thought.
That's my problem, one loooong extension cord to the basement.
You have not been talking about the condenser present in old fluorescent circuit. Does it need to be removed?
If you mean starters, yes they need to be removed. You need to re-establish the contact to the pin of the tube.
Great Video! very easy to follow .. You guys do a wonderful job! Actually makes me want to try an electrical project.. !!
Thank you! Glad our video helps build your confidence 😃
Enjoy you video and am about to convert 2 shop lights for my garage but a question first because I want to get it right. When I opened up the lights, there are 3 bulbs. All are 48 inch T8 bulbs with G13 pin bases. Is the conversion the same for a 3 light fixture and if not would the light work with just 2 bulbs? I don't want to get it wrong and have fireworks! I intend to use ballast bypass bulbs as well.
As long as you follow the wiring diagram and are using Double End Powered LED T8 tubes there shouldn't be any issues converting a 3 tube T12 or T8 fluorescent fixture to LED. You can find the wiring diagram in the video description or click on it here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks for the info.
@@gregg-wb8yys517 You're very welcome! Have a blessed rest of your week 🙂
Was this video for a double powered LED tube or for a single LED?
The video is for double end powered LED tubes 🙂
This is the first time something doesnot work for me. My wires weren't long enough so I had to buy 2 wires white and black taped them up took balast out what do you think it could be
First, make sure you have the correct LED T8 Tubes. This video is for converting to dual end powered LED T8 tubes. It will not work with single end powered LED T8 tubes. Then I would check to make sure you are getting power to the LED tubes. Get a voltage multi-meter to check the tombstones / sockets to make sure there is power. Hope that helps 🙂
Thank you
@@genevievevalle3286 You are welcome 😊
I have a plug and play T8 Led tube, can I still use this method to bypass ballast and connect directly ?
Typically no but if you have a Universal / A+B LED T8 Tube like then ones here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html than it will work with this retrofit method.
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks for the quick reply ! I will check.
Very cool. I need to convert my kitchen florescent ceiling tube lights to LEDs but some of the clips that connect the done of the tubes are cracked/ broken so... what then? Replace the entire housing? I'd rather just put in an LED panel if that's the case as i hate the design of the double ended tubes and trying to align them and locked in place always drives me crazy.
If the sockets are cracked or broken replacing them is the best thing to do. As for an LED panel vs tubes that's a more personal decision. I like the ability to easily replace the tubes if for some reason the tube fails prematurely or I want a higher lumen light or different color temperature 🙂
Im wanting to do this to the small light fixture over my bathroom mirror, but it has a starter in it as well?
If it's fluorescent there is a ballast to power the light 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply right, its a small squarish thing, but the one wire runs from the ballast to to the starter then from the starter to the tombstone...i think ill just buy a new fixture...lol...
@@ToddYoungonline There are so many light fixtures out there that it makes it difficult to know what would be best without being there on site 🙂 So a new fixture may be the best choice as an electrician can be costly 😊 Have a happy new year!
Can I mix match LED with Regular Tube Florescent light fixtures? In my kitchen ceiling lights, I have a total of 3 DUAL T12 Florescent Tubes. Can I replace only ONE set with LED and the remaining TWO DUAL T12 Florescent tubes will stay active. All 3 DUAL Tubes used only ONE POWER ON/OFF Switch. Will there be a long term effect on the LED lights? Please advise
The tubes used in this video you will not be able to mix and match fluorescent and LED tubes. We offer a universal Type A+B LED T8 Tube that works with many existing T8 electronic ballasts but not T12. Best thing is to start here as it will help you find the right LED tube for your application www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html 🙂
Just finished removing the ballast, but the bulbs are dim not bright. Of course after I removed the ballast I noticed the bulbs said, “Ballast compatible”. Any advice?
Sounds like you have Type-A LED T8 bulbs which require the ballast to work. If you used the retrofit method shown in this video you have a Dual End Powered method and will need Type-B Double End Powered LED T8 tubes. Thankfully we sell a Universal LED T8 Bulb that will work in all 3 popular retrofit methods including the Dual End Powered method shown in this video. You can find those tubes here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html - Hope this helps 🙂
Can one mix the two though? Say, have a coloured LED and your normal fluorescent tube? Will that work? Please assist.
In this video, the type of conversion shown here prevents you from using fluorescent tubes. So you can not have LED tubes and fluorescent tubes together. Hope that helps 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply In this particular connection or in general?
Before I found this video, I went ahead and replace 2-tube (48")T8 fluorescent lights with 2 LED tubes that I got at home depot that said for T8. I didn't have to do any of this conversion. Why is that? Do I need to be concerned about anything done wrong?
Sounds like you purchased Type-A tubes that rely on the ballast for power 🙂
It would have been better to show these smaller daylight bulbs, installed in a fixture, in a garage of workshop and turn them on. I can not speak for others, but I would like to see what the illumination appears in a real work situation. Thanks for the info.
What video , if any, do you have for LED emergency 4ft t8 bulbs? They are wired up differently, right?
At this time we do not have a video on emergency LED 4ft T8 lamps 🙁
I used led ready tubes and just put them in not removed or rewiring anything works just fine.
Sounds like you installed Type-A LED T8 tubes that don't require any rewiring or socket replacement. We now offer a universal T8 LED tube that works in all three retrofit applications with or without a ballast. Check it out here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/universal-compatible-led-t8-tubes-type-a-b.html
So, the same tombstones we’re used for fluorescent and LED? Just double checking since I’m not very good with this stuff
That is correct. Just make sure the existing tombstones are in proper working condition 🙂 Have a blessed New Year!
I bought a pack of 2 LED at Walmart but it only works with the ballast ,The moment I delete the ballast it won't work.Can you tell me why?I did the wiring right and checked the voltage it is 125 volts so must be the LED is made for ballast to work.
The retrofit method shown in this video is strictly for Type-B LED T8 tubes which require the ballast to be removed. If the tubes you purchased require the ballast it sounds like you have Type-A tubes that are designed to work with a ballast. Hope that helps 🙂
I really like this double ended T8 bulbs. Makes installation just a snap
We couldn't agree more with you Electronics61 👍
Can I convert some fixtures in my shop to LED and leave others with the old ballast-type arrangement??
That shouldn't be a problem 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I have a question. When you wire the light like this with all hot on one side and all neutral on the other, it does not matter whether the tombstones are shunted or non-shunted?
As along as you follow the wiring diagram making sure power is flowing properly to the tube it should not matter the type of tombstone you are using. Keep in mind shunted tombstones are electrically separated and may require jumping so that both tabs that contact the tube pins are providing power. We always recommend consulting a local licensed electrician to make sure local code is followed and connections and wring are done correctly. Hope that helps 🙂
Thank you for your video explaining how easy it is to convert light fixtures to LED. I would like to convert the light fixtures under the kinchen cabinets to LED.
Unfortunately we do not offer a kit that retrofits fluorescent under cabinet lights to LED. We do offer LED under cabinet light fixtures that can be found here if that helps www.totalrecessedlighting.com/under-cabinet-lighting/led-under-cabinet.html 😊
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you. That is what I need. I will measure and I will be contacting you tomorrow if you are open for business or Monday.
the LED tube to use are the ones that are not LED but are actually T12 fluorescent lights that are run on a magnetic ballast.
I am not quite following what you mean in regards to retrofitting from fluorescent to LED. Can you help us all here understand better what you mean?
@@Totallightingsupply I have never had very good luck with LED lights, and I guess it is just me, but I cannot be in a room lit by them because i get a headache in like 10 minutes. so all of my shops are lit by fluorescent lights, but the newer ones with the electronic ballast seem to not last very long and always burn up in less than 3 years. so I use old lights that are from the 1950s that i got from an old shop that was closing and they still have the original preheat magnetic ballasts and they still work great and never give me any issues.
@@WalterKnox Gotcha! We can understand 😊
Do you sell a kit for T12 fluorescent 2-tube lights 8' in length, that will convert to LED?
We do have a LED conversion kit for 8-foot T12 fluorescent 2-tube lights 🙂 You can find it here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
Hi! I am about to convert my shop lights to led, I have four, 4 tube fixtures. Do you have quick connectors for this?
You can find our quick connectors here 👉www.totalbulklighting.com/5-wire-push-in-wire-connector.html
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you for the reply! I ended up recycling the twist on connectors that were already there. Sad part, my electrician buddy forgot to get me his contractor discount, so I paid way too much for my tubes.
Great Video! My light fixture, the ballast has 2 wires on one side and 4 on the other. The neutral side termination will have 5 wires, the hot side will have 3 wires. Will this be acceptable?
As long as the electrical follows the wire diagram shown here www.totalbulklighting.com/downloads/dl/file/id/1215/led_t8_double_end_power_wire_diagram.pdf then it should work just fine :)
I have a neutral wire running between two tombstones one the one end does this make a difference on weather I make that end my hot end or neutral end? Great video by the way!!!
Also I'm using double ended LEDs if that helps
I have a fixture using F48T12-CW-HO BULBS. These have a different base . I would like to change the bases to tombstone type and replace with LED ‘s. I don’t ned high output devices. Is there a kit for this?
I am sorry we do not have a retrofit kit for those type of fluorescent fixtures. However, an electrician might be able to rewire your fixture to accept LED version of the F48T12-CW-HO bulbs.
They now make LED lamps that use the ballast. No rewire necessary. Occasionally an older ballast will need to be replaced if they don't come back on when the switch is cycled or after power goes out.
You are right and it makes it super easy. However, not every project is the same and a direct replacement won't work. That is why we offer the universal Type A+B bulb that works without wiring and with retrofitting. It's a great way to convert to LED and when the ballast fails you can still use the tube with rewiring like shown in this video. We did a video on this a few months back. You can see how that tube works here 👉 ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html 🙂
You mentioned "T8 double-ended", so I suppose there are T8 single-ended tubes. Do you have a video for single-ended conversions?
We do but the single end powered retrofit method is not the ideal way to retrofit fluorescent T8 or T12 fixtures. The double end powered retrofit method shown in this video is recommended but here's the single end video 👉 ua-cam.com/video/Zjw2UXVJaS0/v-deo.html 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply ...Thank you.
I have what I believe is a important question ???
Can I use an off the shelf double ended t8 LED ???
The reason I ask is because the package says ballest dependent ?
Any Type-B (ballast bypass) double end powered LED T8 lamp will work with the retrofit method in this video. Sounds like you have a Type-A LED tube that requires the t8 ballast to be electrically connected to the fluorescent fixture. Type-A will not work with the retrofit method shown in this video. I hope that helps clarify 🙂
I have a T12 fluorescent 1tube light. I followed the directions to convert to a T8 LED. After the connections, I have power to the wires but my light does not work. ????
There are lots of variables but make sure the LED tube is a Type-B not a Type-A. We see this common mistake often. Type-B bypasses the ballast where as Type-A can only be used with the existing ballast. When in doubt contact the business you purchased the tube from for more information on the tube Hopefully that helps 🙂
I have 8 foot HO bulbs in both the garage and our barn. do you sell that type of connector end?
We do offer a solution but unfortunately this kit is for single end powered LED T8 tubes. You can find out more here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/retrofit-kits/t8-led-8-foot-kits.html
The question is, what is the CRI rating of the lamp you installed?
It is 80 but since LED technology is improving all the time I recommend going to our website for the most accurate information 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/t8-led-lamps/ez-t8-led-tubes.html
Simple instructions; I have GE single pole 8 ft led light follow your steps, change the sockets, still no light, tested the wires coming in the fixture and it works, what I'm doing wrong?
Make sure your LED Tubes are Type-B and receive power from both ends. See this video on popular LED Tube types and retrofit methods. ua-cam.com/video/xPOu-jSTrPc/v-deo.html maybe it will help shed some light on your situation 🙂
When running a string of lights do they need to be run in series or parallel
That is something I would ask an electrician as they would be the best resource for your specific application 🙂
Can all of these be used outside? Like in shed/garage? I know they sell specific fluorescent bulbs for cold
I have them in my garage with no issues. The working temperature on the spec sheet says -4°F to 113°F
Do only retro fit bulbs fit?
In this video for the dual end powered T8 LED Tube retrofit method only Type-B will work 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply thanks for the reply. You mention that about 99 percent of fixtures this will work for. How do I know if it will work for mine before trying/buying your kit
@@phsx2890 Best thing is to start here www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html
does it matter which side of the fixture you make the neutral side and hot side?
It does not matter which side is neutral or hot 🙂
I wonder if I could do my under cabinet minis. I don't see any 12" parts though.
We do not sell parts to under cabinet lights at this time only complete fixtures.
@@Totallightingsupply I restore antique lighting and use B&B for parts, gas to electric conversions, lol. Just a hundred years behind the times.
@@zootybeano Gotcha, LOL 😊 Sounds very interesting and challenging too 🙂 Most of our T8 / T12 Fluorescent parts are specific to converting to fluorescent to LED. We do offer a variety of low voltage electronic transformers with small form factors where many of our customers have used them to prolong the life of their light fixtures, saving them from the landfill. Here's a link to those 👉 www.totaltransformers.com/electronic-transformers.html
This ballast bypass install on liner led lamp is dangerous due to the sockets not being rated for it. I checked with Leviton and talked to an engineer and he confirmed that the sockets are not rated for it.. Bi pin lamps make limited contact in the socket which overheats and melts, out here in California I've see 5 fires do to this install one burnt half a Bed,Bath,and Beyond down. On liner led lamp alway have an led driver or fluorescent compatible ballast to protect the sockets. You can do a ballast bypass on CFL lamps as the pins are making a 360 degree contact. A little background I'm a 25 year electrician working for one of the largest electrical contractors in Sacramento.
Interesting point. The lamps are UL approved to be used in this manner. The question I would have in those 5 cases you mention is were the fixtures wired correctly and were the lamps rated for the application? Thanks for sharing your concern 🙂
i've watched at least 7 different fluorescent to led conversion videos and they all do it differently
I agree Jerry. Some videos show using one-sided LED tubes and state how the one-sided are safer than dual-sided. Then there's the shunted, non-shunted tombstone issue, using an ohm meter. The difference in approaches to these conversions has given me a headache.
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Jerry, true, just when you think you've nailed the conversion, there's a new video with a different approach.
Seems to be three types. One is the single-ended bulb where al, the power connections are at one end and use the non-shunted tombstones. Another is the double-ended bulb as shown in this video. Third is the type you just simply install without changing anything. The third one doesn't make sense unless you're totally freaked out by electricity and don't want to mess with wiring; the ballast is still there sucking power and prone to failure.
If you watched right to the end of the video, he mentioned all three types being available for purchase in the store (last 10-20 seconds).
The only caution I never see them mention is you probably should stick with one type of conversion and clearly mark it on the outside of the fixture. Putting a single end bulb in a double end conversion after a bulb failure (or vice versa) could cause some problems.
They all seem to believe the 50,000 hour bulb life guarantee is real. They may not all fail, but some certainly will, and LED's degrade over time. Might not fail, but probably change color and brightness down the road.
There is a lot of confusion out there. You are correct, there are three ways to convert a fluorescent T8 or T12 fixture at this time as you have mentioned. With our kits, we include a label you a-fix to the fixture to help convey to anyone doing maintenance that the fixture has been retrofitted to LED. Our Double End Powered Kits label indicates the type of retrofit applied. If you compare the wiring of the LED T8 fixture with our our wiring diagrams you will quickly see which type is being used. If you are unsure, knowing electrically based on the wiring is the best approach as things can be easily mislabeled. We made this FAQ recently to help mitigate the confusion out there 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/blog/2020/01/10/converting-fluorescent-t8-or-t12-to-led-t8-tubelight-faq/
I put that sticker on the reflector outside so people could see it
Hi total lighting guy's :-). OMG what an Awesome tutorial. Straight to the point :-)! I was in the process of deciding whether to convert my fluorescent to an LED. My issue is that I just recently purchased several 8 watt 12 inch T5 fluorescent bulbs and need to know if I change the fixture over, will I be able to use those bulbs, or does your company carry this size in LED? Also, is the LED brighter than the fluorescent? I need brightness under my kitchen cabinets and cost effective options....Please advise...Thanks
Unfortunately we do not carry a 12 inch t5 LED tube for retrofit applications. We do provide LED under cabinet lights which you can find here: www.totalrecessedlighting.com/under-cabinet-lighting.html We find LED is typically brighter but you have to look at the lumens of the LED and fluorescent to know if you will have a brighter LED.
@@Totallightingsupply I need five 12" WARM white undercounter and one 24", so maybe I can repair the one 12" flouro that quit. Tiny ballast?
Hi... Nice Video EXCEPT at the end you rush thru "single-ended" Double-ended" and one more that you flashed by so quickly I did not catch. What's the story please with the different "ends"
Maybe this video might help 👉ua-cam.com/video/28YBLBNmhKo/v-deo.html 🙂
How do you convert non-shunted into shunted sockets? The LED tubes I bought work for shunted...my sockets are non-shunted
It really depends on the tube. I would contact the business who sold you the tubes but you may have to return the tubes or get new sockets.
What do I do if the end of the bulb and ballast has the ONE nipple type connection??. Does that work the same way?.
It depends on the LED Tube you are using. If it is Type-B that brings power into both ends then this retrofit method concept would work. You just need to know what type of LED T8 Tube you are using. Best thing is to contact the place you purchased from 🙂
This video is so simple and easy to follow. In this video, the LED tubes are Single End or Double End?
Sorry, just found you have mentioned that your are using double ended tubes. Thank you.
@@charlesyue3891 No worries! Glad you found it 🙂
Are these non shunted sockets? I understand that led ballast bypass use non shunted.
Please see our website that better explains the difference between Double End Powered Tubes as shown in this video and Single End Powered tubes that require non-shunted sockets here 👉www.totalbulklighting.com/led-t8-double-end-powered-tubes-vs-single-end.html
I want to convert an old Dazor desk lamp to LEDs do you have anything for that? Thanks!
Unfortunately at this time, we do not having kits to convert over a Dazor desk lamp. I would check to see what type of fluorescent is used in the lamp and see if there is a replacement LED tube 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thanks. Unfortunately the ballast in my lamp died. Need to see if I can direct wire LED bulbs into my lamp.
does it matter which side is hot and neutral for the bulb?
No it does not matter 🙂