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..... Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
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Ancient weights would be very interesting. There are examples of stones, with the handle held by the "Bird Headed" figures on Mesopotamia carving. Often referred to as a "Purse". There is a lady on UA-cam who has a video yet I believe there might be more widespread reference to these measures.
..... Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
I did a paper on silver rings in the transition from paganism to Christianity in southern Scandinavia and ~200 grams was a standard weight for silver back then too.
You got my vote for a weights and measures video of the bronze age. Knowing how they kept everyone as honest as possible back then would be fascinating
In a sense, a weighted slab of metal really is money by default. The uniformity of any object, whether it be these bronze rings, or something even simpler like the mass produced uniform clay bowls in Mesopotamia. Anything made uniform makes exchange and commerce so much easier. How much soup? One bowl's worth. If "bowl" is an accepted volume, we can easily get into credits and debts from soup. Let alone whatever else can fit in that bowl, or be compared to a uniform unit of measure (the metal rings).
@@matthewreynolds2384 Correct as one criticism of DD’s position but it seems (perhaps inadvertently?) to go along with his deeper error - got from such as Ialongo - that “commerce” in the EBA rather directly resembles modern retail activity. (by implication - DD’s pics of modern coins etc etc). A correct understanding of the appearance of coins around 600 BC is that state institutions appeared that encouraged modern style commerce - as Herodotus directly says. Before then state institutions were more directed towards to elite extraction, with market style retailing suppressed in favour of tax and redistribution by religious authorities. Even the propaganda on this matter is archaic and complex. The misdirection in this video is taken from very recent work by Ialongo and his funders (the EU’s European Research Council but advised by the Federal Reserve Bank). However it broadly resembles the misguided account given by Aristotle, which I would trace to the influence if his employer - the plutocrat - Hermias.
Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@@timoteo8024 sure, guy. Easy to be a hater, who is your preferred source of neolithic and bronze age European history? Because you're certainly not putting out any info of this quality
@@gastonmarian7261 Not saying I agree with him, but I have to assume the reason he said that was because of the video's use of AI-generated images. That doesn't always detract from the quality of a video, but some of it is difficult to look at.
..... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
I've been hearing all about the great empires - Rome, Greece, Babylon, Persia, Egypt, Mongols and so on my whole life. I love learning about those, but it's also great to hear about the ancient late Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures that came before these and gave birth to them. Things like videos on currency, weights and measures, and other mundane things that were a part of their lives help paint a picture of the entire culture and the people that make it up, not just their most famous members. So yes please, do the weights and measures.
I never realized how complex early monetary systems could be. The use of metal bars and rings as money in Bronze Age Central Europe shows that their economic systems were incredibly advanced for their time. Thanks for sharing this!
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Not... really. I mean, we tend to see the past like being "unga bunga bonk in the head", when societies were already REALLY complex and organised since... maybe thousands of years prior to the neolithic. And in neolithic we have societies in general being basically what we have today, minus the technological advancement we have today.
Thank you Dan. I am finding this video to be very interesting. I would indeed like to see a video on weights and measures used in various ages. Thank you all of the work that you put into all of your videos.
13:45 Honestly Dan, the more mundane the better. Everyone else talks about the 'exciting' stuff. You bring to life the details of history and its the details and thoroughness in your videos that keeps me coming back. Bronze age weights yes please!
Hi Dan, 13'25" ; everything you post is interesting and well researched. Just keep posting what you find interesting and I'm pretty sure we'll keep listening/watching. Kind regards, Alain
Bronze Age weights? Yes please! Surely, those 'ribs' are just un-formed versions of the circlets? And therefore, if they weigh the same as a circlet, they were just the same value (???) I also know that 'manillas' definitely WERE used as currency in west Africa until fairly recently (websearch "manillas as currency"). These manillas (from the Portugese word for 'bangle') were essentially identical in form to the circlets in the video. So yes, I would definitely support the idea that these bronze age objects were used as currency, due to the fact that similar forms were in use as exactly that for centuries, until fairly recently.
I vote for Bronze Age weights as well with the caveat that you explore the concept of “handbags” found across in depictions. They are never shown with a hollow and a UA-camr called Curious Being claims that they are a weights used for commerce. Something that seems depicted even in Gobekli Tepe
Like many people, I used to have the impression of mothing really happening in Europe north of the alps before the Romans; just huts and warrior tribes. But this is truly fascinating.
As an amateur history buff of Anatolia and Mesopotamia, I found this video startling and amazing. A whole new twist on the ancients has opened for me here. Oh my oh my oh my, what a wonderful rabbit hole I have found here upon discovering your channel. I look forward to diving deep into your past episodes and will look forward to future ones. Big Thanks
Of course we want more bronze age era videos of any kind, including the ones about the weights. Your videos on this era (not to diminish the other ones) are my favorite subject to listen to.
I'm going to say this yet again: your research and commentary are balanced, judicious, and sane. Everything is so well produced, too. I often pause the vid. at a map or diagram to absorb the loads of extra information they contain. A program on weights (and other measures?) of the Bronze Age would be welcome, thank you.
well, until he started trying to make connections between bronze age commodities and the metric system, that was plain silly. also, the leaping to the assumption that groups of 5's and 10's being common suggesting a decimal system is technically even more suggestive of a 5 based system but is not really definitive of any system at all. the rest is pretty good.
I've seen those bronze axe hoards all over the internet. When I saw how small they were I suspected that they were more like money than actual tools or weapons. Thank you for presenting this information.
It's interesting that they picked a shape that's so easy to hold bundled up in your hand. Coins require bags or pockets in any great quantity, but the bars seem distinctly handheld to me
I actually thought about this not too long ago; what was the very first day ever of money? I imagined a few thousand years ago someone in Europe saying 'I'll trade you your chicken for this nice flat piece of copper that I just hammered out. Maybe I'll make more and make them nice and round...', something like that, lol.
Yes, this clicks an entire series of images into place, right up to the gold Dacian armbands still being hunted for in the forests of the Balkans! I've been wondering about these types of objects, jewellery that really isn't, but is found alongside the jewellery, even in a single burial hoard... This very much makes sense... I'm glad I saw your video, and I'm looking forward to the weights!
Europe might not have been the peak of civilization in the Bronze Age, but we were well connected to it. The Bronze Age world was very "globalized", as in, there were loooong trading routes connecting large parts of Eurasia. And Europe was a part of this network.
Dan you are a pleasure to listen to. Your interest and passion for history shines through in all your videos. If you ask yourself if you should talk about a subject, as long is you are fascinated by it, you'll always have a listener
To my knowledge, early money and ingots are somewhat interchangeable. Early money systems were tied to the value of the metal they were made out of, English pennies for instance were made of pure silver and a pound (lb) of silver was a pound (£) of pennies. The minoans, Sumerians and Egyptians all traded in copper ingots, so my guess is that these items served a similar function of being a useful tradable commodity, but much more transportable than a bar or sheet of metal.
Just as in the evolution of writing, it took time for the idea of the symbol replacing the item being represented to catch on. It's logical to think that merchant might actually hand over a weight as an IOU for less portable items.
This was a very good introduction/overview to something I only had a very vague idea of. Thank you for highlighting your sources. I wish more people understood the value of doing this, that it adds to the value and credibility of what you do.
I would in fact love to see a video on Bronze Age weights and weight systems. But that shouldn’t matter. Make the videos that interest you and the people who like those subjects will watch. Feed the soul dude, keep up the hard work.
Yes, please bronze age weights! I think i speak for every subscriber when I say your meticulous attention to detail is why we are all here. Thank you for all your hard work
These rings as metal, could be considered money, as they have a large value. Bronze or iron rings, can always be blacksmithed into orchard pruning hook that are then blacksmithed back and forth to military spears, or military swords, axes, hatchets, halberds, adze blades, daggers, picks, ... So yes, these metal items could be considered trade items.
I wish we went back to a similar system for our monetary supply today. Coinage made from an alloy of valuable metals would solve much of our inflation and debt problems.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848paper money were invented because metal money could not keep the pace with economy. For example you have 1000 coins and 1000 people, economy is working. Then you have 2000 people for same coins, you have 1000 people who poor because of lack of coins. Also you could have resources from your 16 century colonies or international trade, these resources need to be covered by coin, you can't use barter
@Kannot2023, The paper we use today is not money. It is currency. There is a big difference. In any case I never said anything about doing away with paper currency. I suggested we go back to placing valuable metal in our coinage (which was common practice as recently as the latter half of the 20th century). Fiat currency is a disaster.
'Bronze Age weights' video, yes please. I find trade related issues very interesting. Weight system is certainly part of the category. [Edit] ...and measure systems, too.
The more I learn about the Bronze Age the more I am coming to realise what a fascinating and complex society that was. A lot of my knowledge has come from your excellent videos, always well researched and gripping to watch. I cannot imagine how much time and effort go into these beautiful and informative productions. And yes, Bronze Age weights for me too, please 🙂.
I'd be happy to see a video on bronze age weights. I love all aspects of prehistory, but am particularly interested in prehistoric trade. Thanks for the new video! Very interesting!
This is great, and an underrated topic in historic discussions. I did my own research into money being created as a form of commodity vs. a form of credit, and in the end, it seemed to be more of a "gift" based economic model, that turned into credit (taxes) and commodities (standardized goods that can be traded by nations/tribes/organizations, instead of individuals). Over time, monarchies develop, anarchy and democracies take hold (workers' rights), and the systems balance back out, since-in the end-we are subject to the natural world around us. If the mythological structures of the Kings and their Kingdoms are torn down, what are we left with? Besides ourselves... This topic really makes me think of Tolkien's intention in Lord of the Rings. The Ring of Power was drawn from Germanic folklore, so it makes sense that the deep history of Germany is plagued by corrupt rulers who hoard their metal rings-all for the sake of power -🤔 A video on bronze age weights would be great! Whenever you have one-sixtieth of a second 😹
. .... Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
The Hoops are clasps for closing a sleeve or cuff. The Rib Ingots are bits for a herd animal: like deer or goats, as to be harnessed. The Small spirals were the currency: and you would cut a spiral. Grains were also common, and as you know larger ingots were available in the south. Beads obviously held a value: and thus the spirals would be included in such arrangements. Yet the barter system was still in greater formulation, and currency was more of a ledger of stuff owed by or to a house of trade.
@@DanDavisHistory The bits for a horse are still brass today. A deer pulling a pulka would require a metal bit to prevent them biting through. Oxen, Deer, or even goats would use the Rib ingots, and allow for the pulling of the head in a direction with reigns. The Rings have Eyelets to allow them to be cinched closed, and secured. As teams of deer would be used at times: they would be traded with or without the animals. Some of the Ribs still have teeth marks in them. A common practice was to remove two of the animals teeth to place the bit through. Check for animal skulls with missing teeth, or the common wear pattern of such a bit and tack.
@@johnhunt2390 Bits were often secured with hoops or rings used to hold the straps of the bridle. The reigns attach to the head and the rings, providing a direct control of the animal. The Bent heads of the rods are rational to fit through these rings and provide a stable connection which was then locked with another thong of leather and the reign head. The rings of a reign would be heavier than the closing hoops for the cuffs of a sleeve.
I remember one of the characters in the book Atlas Shrugged says that money is a tool that we use to trade with one another. That's a pretty good definition
@VictorianTimeTraveler Another good thing with that is that it removes the abstractivity about money. Questions like what is money anyway?, or money does not make you happy, looses their lustre.
Yes please to the ancient weights and measures video! Metrology is always interesting, and to know how our ancient ancestors approached the problem would be fascinating.
Claiming the copper rods are currency is like claiming that gold bars are currency. They aren't because they are not symbolic representations of wealth, They ARE wealth. Also they cannot be currency because they are not being exchanged for other symbols of wealth.
Wonderful historical coverage video about copper rings after those golden rings used as coins ( money) units in 4000 years ago ( Bronze age) ....thank you for sharing this magnificent video
Good video. I've studied the history of money for about 15 years. As you mention, the ingots and rings DO fit the characteristics of money. But they would typically fall under the category of an exchangeable commodity or proto-money. The first form of proto-money likely predates written history. But items like Cowrie Shells have been found in archaeological sites in Africa and Asia dating back as far as 120,000 years ago. The key difference between money and proto-money is (generally) the presence of standardized systems and centralized institutions, particularly a government or similar authority.
Yeah Unetice researchers like Harald Meller believe these were state level or proto state level societies with central control over people and the copper supply - the forms and the special metal content (giving an obvious silvery colour) - being their version of a stamp of issuing central authority. Everyone would have understood where they came from.
@@DanDavisHistory Hmm, very interesting. Yeah, maybe. Money as a concept is fascinating; I mean I obviously think so. Money is something everyone wants. But few are able to define why money is valuable beyond the circular logic: "money is valuable because you can buy things with it...and you can buy things with money because it's valuable."
@@baltimorelukeCircular logic isn't all bad, it just means that the validity of the statement derives from one's faith in it's validity, or, in merchant's terms, one's confidence in it. And business is all about building mutual confidence.
@baltimoreluke Contracts are just a scrap of paper. Meaningless. Doesn't stop the stupid from setting themselves on fire, and then you're also catching that.
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Acting like you have to ask if we would want to see a video on bronze age weights YES!
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Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
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Ancient weights would be very interesting. There are examples of stones, with the handle held by the "Bird Headed" figures on Mesopotamia carving. Often referred to as a "Purse". There is a lady on UA-cam who has a video yet I believe there might be more widespread reference to these measures.
Definitely do a segment on weights.
Yes, please Bronze Age weights!
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Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Bronze Age weights, Bronze Age Weights!
I did a paper on silver rings in the transition from paganism to Christianity in southern Scandinavia and ~200 grams was a standard weight for silver back then too.
Please!
@@Rasbiff That the Vikings used 6 Carolingian coining ounces had nothing to do with this Bronze age decimal fiction
You got my vote for a weights and measures video of the bronze age. Knowing how they kept everyone as honest as possible back then would be fascinating
Maybe it was habitual dodginess at the edges of the system that brought on weights and measures?
@@mikef.1000 Maybe all this is just a modern fiction? Who would know amongst people commenting here
Threat of castration usually keeps people pretty damn honest 😮😂
In a sense, a weighted slab of metal really is money by default. The uniformity of any object, whether it be these bronze rings, or something even simpler like the mass produced uniform clay bowls in Mesopotamia. Anything made uniform makes exchange and commerce so much easier. How much soup? One bowl's worth. If "bowl" is an accepted volume, we can easily get into credits and debts from soup. Let alone whatever else can fit in that bowl, or be compared to a uniform unit of measure (the metal rings).
@@matthewreynolds2384 Correct as one criticism of DD’s position but it seems (perhaps inadvertently?) to go along with his deeper error - got from such as Ialongo - that “commerce” in the EBA rather directly resembles modern retail activity. (by implication - DD’s pics of modern coins etc etc).
A correct understanding of the appearance of coins around 600 BC is that state institutions appeared that encouraged modern style commerce - as Herodotus directly says. Before then state institutions were more directed towards to elite extraction, with market style retailing suppressed in favour of tax and redistribution by religious authorities.
Even the propaganda on this matter is archaic and complex. The misdirection in this video is taken from very recent work by Ialongo and his funders (the EU’s European Research Council but advised by the Federal Reserve Bank). However it broadly resembles the misguided account given by Aristotle, which I would trace to the influence if his employer - the plutocrat - Hermias.
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@@timoteo8024 sure, guy. Easy to be a hater, who is your preferred source of neolithic and bronze age European history? Because you're certainly not putting out any info of this quality
@@gastonmarian7261 Not saying I agree with him, but I have to assume the reason he said that was because of the video's use of AI-generated images. That doesn't always detract from the quality of a video, but some of it is difficult to look at.
Yes, I want to learn about Bronze Age weights, scales, and standards.
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Bronze age weights !!!!!
Yeah !!!!!
I've been hearing all about the great empires - Rome, Greece, Babylon, Persia, Egypt, Mongols and so on my whole life. I love learning about those, but it's also great to hear about the ancient late Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures that came before these and gave birth to them. Things like videos on currency, weights and measures, and other mundane things that were a part of their lives help paint a picture of the entire culture and the people that make it up, not just their most famous members.
So yes please, do the weights and measures.
I find all aspects of historic technological inovation fascinating. Bring on the weights video please.
I never realized how complex early monetary systems could be. The use of metal bars and rings as money in Bronze Age Central Europe shows that their economic systems were incredibly advanced for their time. Thanks for sharing this!
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Not... really. I mean, we tend to see the past like being "unga bunga bonk in the head", when societies were already REALLY complex and organised since... maybe thousands of years prior to the neolithic. And in neolithic we have societies in general being basically what we have today, minus the technological advancement we have today.
@@Trotoloko yeah, it's not "Guga make stone axe" but rather "Gill,we have to meet the axe head quota for next delivery"
Thank you Dan. I am finding this video to be very interesting. I would indeed like to see a video on weights and measures used in various ages. Thank you all of the work that you put into all of your videos.
13:45 Honestly Dan, the more mundane the better. Everyone else talks about the 'exciting' stuff. You bring to life the details of history and its the details and thoroughness in your videos that keeps me coming back. Bronze age weights yes please!
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@@MuddieRain or in this case ... the lamentations of their bankers.
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Bronze Age weights? Yes please! Surely, those 'ribs' are just un-formed versions of the circlets? And therefore, if they weigh the same as a circlet, they were just the same value (???) I also know that 'manillas' definitely WERE used as currency in west Africa until fairly recently (websearch "manillas as currency"). These manillas (from the Portugese word for 'bangle') were essentially identical in form to the circlets in the video. So yes, I would definitely support the idea that these bronze age objects were used as currency, due to the fact that similar forms were in use as exactly that for centuries, until fairly recently.
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I vote for Bronze Age weights as well with the caveat that you explore the concept of “handbags” found across in depictions. They are never shown with a hollow and a UA-camr called Curious Being claims that they are a weights used for commerce. Something that seems depicted even in Gobekli Tepe
Was made that way to make it easier to check quality
Like many people, I used to have the impression of mothing really happening in Europe north of the alps before the Romans; just huts and warrior tribes. But this is truly fascinating.
Its depressing how baised world history is against tribal cultures.
Bronze age Europe is very underrated. Lots of great innovations and unique civilizations occured in this period.
As an amateur history buff of Anatolia and Mesopotamia, I found this video startling and amazing. A whole new twist on the ancients has opened for me here.
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Considering that the original Greek oboloi, the lowest value "coins", had the form of metal rods, this hypothesis checks out.
I would definitely like to see a video on bronze age weights and measures
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Cant wait for the bronze age weight video.
That final "not yet, anyway" was very poignant. Really lets it sink in that all things are temporary, as constant as they may seem now.
Wow. The consistency of weights is incredible.
Nope - the data looks rigged
Of course we want more bronze age era videos of any kind, including the ones about the weights. Your videos on this era (not to diminish the other ones) are my favorite subject to listen to.
I'm going to say this yet again: your research and commentary are balanced, judicious, and sane. Everything is so well produced, too. I often pause the vid. at a map or diagram to absorb the loads of extra information they contain.
A program on weights (and other measures?) of the Bronze Age would be welcome, thank you.
well, until he started trying to make connections between bronze age commodities and the metric system, that was plain silly. also, the leaping to the assumption that groups of 5's and 10's being common suggesting a decimal system is technically even more suggestive of a 5 based system but is not really definitive of any system at all. the rest is pretty good.
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I've seen those bronze axe hoards all over the internet. When I saw how small they were I suspected that they were more like money than actual tools or weapons. Thank you for presenting this information.
It's interesting that they picked a shape that's so easy to hold bundled up in your hand. Coins require bags or pockets in any great quantity, but the bars seem distinctly handheld to me
That's what I thought, too. The fact that they have that bend means that not only could they be bundled, but also that they wouldn't roll anywhere.
I think they have the exact shape of a modern copper bracelet ;)
That's a yes for Bronze Age weights. I never knew I was even interested in it lol.
I actually thought about this not too long ago; what was the very first day ever of money? I imagined a few thousand years ago someone in Europe saying 'I'll trade you your chicken for this nice flat piece of copper that I just hammered out. Maybe I'll make more and make them nice and round...', something like that, lol.
Yes, this clicks an entire series of images into place, right up to the gold Dacian armbands still being hunted for in the forests of the Balkans! I've been wondering about these types of objects, jewellery that really isn't, but is found alongside the jewellery, even in a single burial hoard... This very much makes sense... I'm glad I saw your video, and I'm looking forward to the weights!
Europe might not have been the peak of civilization in the Bronze Age, but we were well connected to it. The Bronze Age world was very "globalized", as in, there were loooong trading routes connecting large parts of Eurasia. And Europe was a part of this network.
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To my knowledge, early money and ingots are somewhat interchangeable. Early money systems were tied to the value of the metal they were made out of, English pennies for instance were made of pure silver and a pound (lb) of silver was a pound (£) of pennies.
The minoans, Sumerians and Egyptians all traded in copper ingots, so my guess is that these items served a similar function of being a useful tradable commodity, but much more transportable than a bar or sheet of metal.
No - English pennies seem to be 15/16 fine and 240 were 15/16 of a bullion pound
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These were probably semi-standardized measures of raw material for trade and manufacture. They might have also been used as a medium of exchange.
Yes! Maybe comparable to the gold coins of our recent past (or even present), which also could well be used as a source of raw material.
Just as in the evolution of writing, it took time for the idea of the symbol replacing the item being represented to catch on. It's logical to think that merchant might actually hand over a weight as an IOU for less portable items.
This was a very good introduction/overview to something I only had a very vague idea of.
Thank you for highlighting your sources. I wish more people understood the value of doing this, that it adds to the value and credibility of what you do.
I would in fact love to see a video on Bronze Age weights and weight systems. But that shouldn’t matter. Make the videos that interest you and the people who like those subjects will watch. Feed the soul dude, keep up the hard work.
Can't wait for a weights video!
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Back in my village we would sometimes use onions as money. And nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. 'Give me five bees for a quarter,' you’d say
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*YES PLEASE MAKE THAT VIDEO!!!!*
A Video about the ability to weigh Stuff during the Bronze Age sounds *Super Interesting!!!*
Yes. Bronze age weights.
Fascinating video, ty Dan.
Yes, please bronze age weights!
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Great video! I always appreciate whenever you jump into obscure topics in even obscurer cultures.
These rings as metal, could be considered money, as they have a large value. Bronze or iron rings, can always be blacksmithed into orchard pruning hook that are then blacksmithed back and forth to military spears, or military swords, axes, hatchets, halberds, adze blades, daggers, picks, ... So yes, these metal items could be considered trade items.
I wish we went back to a similar system for our monetary supply today. Coinage made from an alloy of valuable metals would solve much of our inflation and debt problems.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848paper money were invented because metal money could not keep the pace with economy. For example you have 1000 coins and 1000 people, economy is working. Then you have 2000 people for same coins, you have 1000 people who poor because of lack of coins. Also you could have resources from your 16 century colonies or international trade, these resources need to be covered by coin, you can't use barter
@Kannot2023, The paper we use today is not money. It is currency. There is a big difference. In any case I never said anything about doing away with paper currency. I suggested we go back to placing valuable metal in our coinage (which was common practice as recently as the latter half of the 20th century). Fiat currency is a disaster.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 "This one weird trick will save the economy!" Sure grandpa.
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Surely flint was the first currency, it doesn't degrade with time (unlike food) it had universal value, and can even be split into smaller lumps.
after binging on 10 seasons of channel 4's time team this was my first thought.
This is fascinating!! Great stuff!!
'Bronze Age weights' video, yes please. I find trade related issues very interesting. Weight system is certainly part of the category. [Edit] ...and measure systems, too.
A video on Bronze Age weights would be quite interesting.
Dan, you’ve brought more insight into the Bronze Age than the History Channel, bring on the weights! Absolutely enjoy your research.
History Channel is, IMO, often sensationalised, dumbed-down and sexed-up chaff!
The more I learn about the Bronze Age the more I am coming to realise what a fascinating and complex society that was. A lot of my knowledge has come from your excellent videos, always well researched and gripping to watch. I cannot imagine how much time and effort go into these beautiful and informative productions. And yes, Bronze Age weights for me too, please 🙂.
Yes, please! A weights and measures video. The ability to measure is a lens into a people's sence of true value and excellence.
I'd be happy to see a video on bronze age weights. I love all aspects of prehistory, but am particularly interested in prehistoric trade.
Thanks for the new video! Very interesting!
This is great, and an underrated topic in historic discussions. I did my own research into money being created as a form of commodity vs. a form of credit, and in the end, it seemed to be more of a "gift" based economic model, that turned into credit (taxes) and commodities (standardized goods that can be traded by nations/tribes/organizations, instead of individuals).
Over time, monarchies develop, anarchy and democracies take hold (workers' rights), and the systems balance back out, since-in the end-we are subject to the natural world around us. If the mythological structures of the Kings and their Kingdoms are torn down, what are we left with? Besides ourselves...
This topic really makes me think of Tolkien's intention in Lord of the Rings. The Ring of Power was drawn from Germanic folklore, so it makes sense that the deep history of Germany is plagued by corrupt rulers who hoard their metal rings-all for the sake of power -🤔
A video on bronze age weights would be great! Whenever you have one-sixtieth of a second 😹
Yes, please, bronze age weights.
There is so many new discoveries being found in central Europe.
Have to say that really gripped my inner history nerd 😮 absolutely fascinating stuff Dan, a video on bronze age weights would be most welcome 🙏 😉
I absolutely do want to see a video about Bronze Age weights
Bronze age weights sounds like an awesome topic! Please make it
A video on Bronze Age weights would be a fantastic subject!
Great video! And yes, I'd love to watch a Bronze Age weights video!
Yes to Bronze Age weights. This was fascinating and as always well presented. Thank you!
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Definitely up for some Bronze Age weights, Dan, bring em on
The Hoops are clasps for closing a sleeve or cuff. The Rib Ingots are bits for a herd animal: like deer or goats, as to be harnessed. The Small spirals were the currency: and you would cut a spiral. Grains were also common, and as you know larger ingots were available in the south. Beads obviously held a value: and thus the spirals would be included in such arrangements. Yet the barter system was still in greater formulation, and currency was more of a ledger of stuff owed by or to a house of trade.
No they were not
@@DanDavisHistory The bits for a horse are still brass today. A deer pulling a pulka would require a metal bit to prevent them biting through. Oxen, Deer, or even goats would use the Rib ingots, and allow for the pulling of the head in a direction with reigns.
The Rings have Eyelets to allow them to be cinched closed, and secured. As teams of deer would be used at times: they would be traded with or without the animals. Some of the Ribs still have teeth marks in them. A common practice was to remove two of the animals teeth to place the bit through. Check for animal skulls with missing teeth, or the common wear pattern of such a bit and tack.
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@@williamcourtland5945Do you have a source for the use as animal bits? Especially the tooth marks? This sounds interesting.
@@johnhunt2390 Bits were often secured with hoops or rings used to hold the straps of the bridle. The reigns attach to the head and the rings, providing a direct control of the animal. The Bent heads of the rods are rational to fit through these rings and provide a stable connection which was then locked with another thong of leather and the reign head. The rings of a reign would be heavier than the closing hoops for the cuffs of a sleeve.
I very much enjoyed this video, and I would likely enjoy one about weights, too.
Hell, I'll watch almost anything pre-history.
Can't wait for the weights! :-)
Yes! I love every video you make! So educational.
Thanks Dan! Really enjoyable video!
Very interesting, a follow up video on weight and measures will be greatly appreciated.
We aren’t learning in our educational institutions, so please do that weight video!!!
please do the video on bronze age weights. I'm absolutely fascinated
I remember one of the characters in the book Atlas Shrugged says that money is a tool that we use to trade with one another.
That's a pretty good definition
A better one i think is that money is work in another form.
That is why we can buy others work with it and we get it from our work.
@gustafduell4948 I definitely agree.
@VictorianTimeTraveler Another good thing with that is that it removes the abstractivity about money. Questions like what is money anyway?, or money does not make you happy, looses their lustre.
Nice one. You have done it again Dani boy
Bronze age weights sounds cool!
Yes please to the ancient weights and measures video! Metrology is always interesting, and to know how our ancient ancestors approached the problem would be fascinating.
I enjoyed this very much. And yes do the weights show.
Yes, please do a video on Bronze Age weights!
Fascinating work Sir. Thank You indeed.
yes to bronze age weights
Fascinating. I cannot help making connections with Viking Age silver. Metal is so versatile.
Always enjoy and learn from your vids, definitely enjoy this sort of topic as well!
Claiming the copper rods are currency is like claiming that gold bars are currency. They aren't because they are not symbolic representations of wealth, They ARE wealth. Also they cannot be currency because they are not being exchanged for other symbols of wealth.
You don't know that. They could well have been exchanged for just about anything... slaves, livestock, all manner of goods or services.
Definitely want to hear about bronze age weights
I don't see how someone watching your videos can find bronze age weight systems boring!
Bronze age weights video please, show me how it's thought these societies work
Wonderful historical coverage video about copper rings after those golden rings used as coins ( money) units in 4000 years ago ( Bronze age) ....thank you for sharing this magnificent video
Fascinating and discerningly made as always. thank you.
Good video. I've studied the history of money for about 15 years. As you mention, the ingots and rings DO fit the characteristics of money. But they would typically fall under the category of an exchangeable commodity or proto-money. The first form of proto-money likely predates written history. But items like Cowrie Shells have been found in archaeological sites in Africa and Asia dating back as far as 120,000 years ago. The key difference between money and proto-money is (generally) the presence of standardized systems and centralized institutions, particularly a government or similar authority.
Yeah Unetice researchers like Harald Meller believe these were state level or proto state level societies with central control over people and the copper supply - the forms and the special metal content (giving an obvious silvery colour) - being their version of a stamp of issuing central authority. Everyone would have understood where they came from.
@@DanDavisHistory Hmm, very interesting. Yeah, maybe. Money as a concept is fascinating; I mean I obviously think so. Money is something everyone wants. But few are able to define why money is valuable beyond the circular logic: "money is valuable because you can buy things with it...and you can buy things with money because it's valuable."
@@baltimorelukeCircular logic isn't all bad, it just means that the validity of the statement derives from one's faith in it's validity, or, in merchant's terms, one's confidence in it. And business is all about building mutual confidence.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Business is not about confidence. It's about contracts.
@baltimoreluke Contracts are just a scrap of paper. Meaningless. Doesn't stop the stupid from setting themselves on fire, and then you're also catching that.
Great work. A Video on Bronze age weights would be of great interest.
Great video. The Neolithic and Early Bronze Age are my favorite periods because we have many artifacts but so little written knowledge.
I would love a video on weights and measurements!
This is very well done. Yes to a weights study.
Great video as always... keep the pace dont slow down
I find it all interesting. Along with the weight system they used, I would also be interested in their smelting technology.
Yes we want to see a video on Bronze Age weights!