In preparation for skate. ive actually been getting back into Skate 3 and just feeling the difference between it Skate XL, Session, and even Skate 2. The Skate 3 modding community has also been making strides and been gaining more interest because of the new game which is really cool to see. I hope in 2025 all of them can do well so we can have choices, just like you mentioned.
Hey Pigeon just want to take the time to say thank you for introducing me into session I used to be a real huge skate fan and being someone who has never skateboarded (would always have my boards stolen from me as a kid so I never kept trying to ride irl) this game put me off at first but after watching your vids I can throughly say I’m glad I took the time I purchase the game I’m currently only a week into the game and I’m trying to learn manual catch any tips for getting better control over your flick and scoop my timing is shit lol
I think you hit the nail on the head mate when you said even trying to create new content for this game is now getting stale. With nothing new getting added for such a long time, it’s hard to find new ways to be creative in the game. As you say for the first two proper skateboarding in a decade to be released since skate 3 they fell massively short.
I will say Session will definitely survive but not thrive. with no multiplayer coming I think that deals a huge blow to session's success. And I am not sure if the updates will even be enough for the game to thrive. In my opinion if the devs don't want to bring multiplayer then it needs to be like the greatest single player experience. I think Session has a great foundation and feels really good to play. I feel the connectivity between my controller and the skater more than I do in skater xl. I think session needed to kinda be like a skateboard gta. like have many things you could interact with, and have a bustling city or map with pedestrians and moving cars and stuff. Along with great missions you could do to really bring the game to life.
I dont know if you have made a video like this before but maybe you could make a video reviewing your viewers session clips or a different idea is that you could ask your viewers for certain spots in each maps to skate and one final idea is that you should ask for combos and tricks to do from your viewers but the add a twist for example (kickflip into a nose grind and leave the rail with a 180 but you have to it with one hand) hope this helps love your vids bye now
the core gameplay of skate was the best ever for a skate game. not to mention changing skating games forever with a superior control system.............skate will break every other skate game im sure of it
waiting this long for the goofy update is kinda insane, I eventually had to switch to reg even though I don't skate that in real life, been doing it so long that I might as well stick with it I think it'll survive no bother, the community mods and things will carry it, I've been playing for like 2 years on the vanilla maps with no DLC or mods and only just got the year 1 pack, for me it's like skating IRL, skating the same couple of spots absolutely crushing them with different lines each day
that’s wild to me that the game has been out for this long and this is still a thing - if I skated goofy irl i would consider this game simply unplayable. I did some research and according to some reddit threads I found, the reason is because Unreal Engine 4 doesn’t have “Animation mirroring” and they were waiting to add it into the game in once they switched to Unreal 5. But in a more recent thread, I found that they’ve apparently just given up on switching to Unreal 5 at all, because apparently the “investment required[…] is too high”, with no guarantee of a return. My question is Why even make “switch” animations in the first place if they couldn’t be mirrored, or at least turned off? Did they just assume everyone who skates is regular?
As a fan about session contribuing in skate comunity, session make a good job. But unfortely session still a sensation its a unfinished game and the resorcers for save the lifetime has been spent, is just a matter of time skate 4 take over.
Skater XL is getting updates, but not enough for me to go back to it yet. 6 months later and I'm still playing Session like a maniac, so much so I'm very close to 1 million in-game currency. So I hope they add more items through the shop, any category. They've said no to a mod browser for maps, so I'd like them to change their mind on that. As for Skate, it's going to do well, but I don't believe enough for people to abandon the other games. I just want to play the game for the giant map/maps? and that's all.
I would definitely play if I could mod the game for a flick it system because the 2 foot controls are confusing to me like Im loving both games like skate cartoonish stuff and online but the realism of session is why I play it
@pigeonthief I'm new to modding session and wanted to ask if you have the illusory pro because when i download the free one it doesn't seem to work as my game just doesn't start when the pop up message says corrupted file, it doesn't allow me to click the ok button as my cursor turns into an hourglass which i think means its freezing. pls get back to me ive had no luck anywhere to fix this issue and just want to get mods onto session.
Dude idk but I love the game . I make edits constantly, I will say there could be so much added obviously but for me this is the standard for a skate game on console . I would keep playing skater xl but it’s not as clean looking on console for edits as sessions for me imo
yeah, as much as easy day has dropped the ball, they're actually picking up the rate at which they put in new maps and they're still not charging for them. seems like a better formula to keep things fresh than asking people to shell out money every time there's new content, feel like people are gonna hit a wall where they go "do i really wanna spend any more money on this game?"
The number one issue I've had with Session's developers is the complete lack of two-way communication. It's a very odd feeling to be in a community of players in which the game you all collectively enjoy is made by a team who doesn't even tell you what is occurring in the development cycle. Every dev is under these super odd NDAs, and they actually aren't working on the game that much at all, because for a ton of time, the studio has been working on the other game. The thing is, there are games in which there is a single developer who is able to release more updates/content than this studio can. Over the course of an entire year, they've done almost nothing but a couple of maps.... that's it. Respectfully, it's kind of bizarre to see people continue to rehash the same comments consistently... Why support and show love to a game in which the literal developers won't even give that back? Session is literally just a one-way community at this point, and the developers won't tell us anything that's going on, because honestly...... there just isn't anything major that's going to happen to this game. The studio does deserve all the criticism and shit they've gotten. There is no point in developing a game if you won't even clearly communicate with the player base to keep them informed, playing, and purchasing the material. @JLNightmare would you like to give us some updates on the game, besides the NDA-approved blanket message?
i wonder if the devs behind Session and Skater XL are both just waiting to see if skate by EA is a flop OR if Skate coming out helps both those games by bringing more people into the skate game community. Either could help them. Then would be the time to drop new content and put time into PR.
The fact skate 4 will be free i feel the micro transactions wouldnt be that big a deal if it sticks to clothing stuff. Probably similar to riders republic where some as in game currency and some are real money
Yeah like its not gonna be required for locations or tricks maybe variations but mostly cosmetics the devs dont sound like they are gonna pump microtransactions at you and you can just not spend money like its not required
Insane to me they are selling dlcs and saying the game is done, even if there are no throw down animations 😂 which would so doable even without an animator 😂
I still will be watching the channel and am exited for the content around Skate. but I am not playing session anymore, I enjoyed the game for years but just getting bored of it.
I think no matter how egregious the micro transactions are, Skate 4's going to have a dedicated playerbase. Think about how giant Skate 3 has been and is currently, and how many eyes are going to be on 4. I almost guarantee the game's going to flow and feel better than Session because Skate 3 arguably already does. And while yes, that's just my personal preference, we'd all be lying to ourselves if we said Session doesn't have issues. Animations, Vert, the general handling of the community. I'm positive both games will prosper in one way or another, and I'm not trying to say Skate's going to kill Session. Session's always going to have those die hard fans who love the control scheme, the realism, the mods or the customization. But for everyone else, ESPECIALLY non skaters, the feel of Skate 4's gameplay is going to make Session obsolete for them. Why spend money on a buggy, harder to learn game that doesn't get free updates when you can play a free to play game made by a triple A studio that's more than likely going to feel better to most people. Honestly, it feels like an unfair fight. But hey, I've been stabbed in the back by pre-release footage before, so I can't be 100% certain.
As much as I hate to say it, I think session is gonna die off. After the way the dropped the ball on multiple different occasions, the major disconnect between the devs and their fans. Just a couple things that will pave the way for Skate 4 to come in and pull people away. Anyways glad you had a good Christmas bro! Take it easy! ✌🏻
I just can’t back Creature Studios anymore. They’ve shown themselves to no longer be the company we all fell in love with during early access. Paris DLC was super lazy and showed a huge drop in quality. The School dlc was better but it was tied to paid hair with hats. Then they nuked the discord and got super ban happy on all social medias. Donovan has proven himself to not be a trustworthy person and one of the worst community managers the industry has ever seen.
Skate 4 looks like a micro transaction game thats gonna be a trash game. Its gonna be Fortnite of Skateboarding. Very cartoonish and boring after an hour.
@@iDrive100 No its not, Session exist and by far the greatest skateboarding game to exist. You're lying to yourself if you think anything EA sports makes is good. Skate Franchise was always mid and we only had Tony Hawk to compare it to. Now we have Session and Skater XL that actually has better controls, and feels like Skateboarding should feel. It's not cartoonish, and you actually have to put real effort into learning how to catch and time the board, Rather than like Skate where you aren't actually catching the board. Skate 4 is gonna be a flop and in 3 years EA will shut down the servers to the game and the game is unplayable in 3 years.
With the awesome community with this game I think it will surely survive
The community is dying at light speed even most modders disappeared check illusory there’s barely any messages anymore
I think session is a timeless game. But hopefully the developers don't stop adding new maps and updates
In preparation for skate. ive actually been getting back into Skate 3 and just feeling the difference between it Skate XL, Session, and even Skate 2. The Skate 3 modding community has also been making strides and been gaining more interest because of the new game which is really cool to see. I hope in 2025 all of them can do well so we can have choices, just like you mentioned.
Regardless of what happens, I love this game and will continue to play. Give me the Philly map and I’m sold.
Hey Pigeon just want to take the time to say thank you for introducing me into session I used to be a real huge skate fan and being someone who has never skateboarded (would always have my boards stolen from me as a kid so I never kept trying to ride irl) this game put me off at first but after watching your vids I can throughly say I’m glad I took the time I purchase the game I’m currently only a week into the game and I’m trying to learn manual catch any tips for getting better control over your flick and scoop my timing is shit lol
I think you hit the nail on the head mate when you said even trying to create new content for this game is now getting stale. With nothing new getting added for such a long time, it’s hard to find new ways to be creative in the game. As you say for the first two proper skateboarding in a decade to be released since skate 3 they fell massively short.
If they keep dropping banger maps and the community continues to rock!!! Then this game will survive for a while
I will say Session will definitely survive but not thrive. with no multiplayer coming I think that deals a huge blow to session's success. And I am not sure if the updates will even be enough for the game to thrive. In my opinion if the devs don't want to bring multiplayer then it needs to be like the greatest single player experience. I think Session has a great foundation and feels really good to play. I feel the connectivity between my controller and the skater more than I do in skater xl. I think session needed to kinda be like a skateboard gta. like have many things you could interact with, and have a bustling city or map with pedestrians and moving cars and stuff. Along with great missions you could do to really bring the game to life.
I dont know if you have made a video like this before but maybe you could make a video reviewing your viewers session clips or a different idea is that you could ask your viewers for certain spots in each maps to skate and one final idea is that you should ask for combos and tricks to do from your viewers but the add a twist for example (kickflip into a nose grind and leave the rail with a 180 but you have to it with one hand) hope this helps love your vids bye now
the core gameplay of skate was the best ever for a skate game. not to mention changing skating games forever with a superior control system.............skate will break every other skate game im sure of it
I have almost 400 hours on ps5 sessions and man I wish I had mods, it’s my favorite game to play when I’m just sitting around zoning out
The title had me thinking this was a collab with willsurvives
From a business perspective it surprises me that Session doesn’t pump out smaller content updates, that would surely make the game dominate right now?
Going back to skate 3 is so hard.
waiting this long for the goofy update is kinda insane, I eventually had to switch to reg even though I don't skate that in real life, been doing it so long that I might as well stick with it
I think it'll survive no bother, the community mods and things will carry it, I've been playing for like 2 years on the vanilla maps with no DLC or mods and only just got the year 1 pack, for me it's like skating IRL, skating the same couple of spots absolutely crushing them with different lines each day
that’s wild to me that the game has been out for this long and this is still a thing - if I skated goofy irl i would consider this game simply unplayable. I did some research and according to some reddit threads I found, the reason is because Unreal Engine 4 doesn’t have “Animation mirroring” and they were waiting to add it into the game in once they switched to Unreal 5. But in a more recent thread, I found that they’ve apparently just given up on switching to Unreal 5 at all, because apparently the “investment required[…] is too high”, with no guarantee of a return. My question is Why even make “switch” animations in the first place if they couldn’t be mirrored, or at least turned off? Did they just assume everyone who skates is regular?
Welcome back bro!
there's allot of content you could still make for session if you'd really want to, for example stuff like underrated spots, etc
take my subscription accent man 👏🏼
As a fan about session contribuing in skate comunity, session make a good job. But unfortely session still a sensation its a unfinished game and the resorcers for save the lifetime has been spent, is just a matter of time skate 4 take over.
There's also a Shredders 2 coming by the way, a successor to the snowboard sim. It's unclear if that happens in 2025 but i surely hope so.
Skater XL is getting updates, but not enough for me to go back to it yet. 6 months later and I'm still playing Session like a maniac, so much so I'm very close to 1 million in-game currency. So I hope they add more items through the shop, any category. They've said no to a mod browser for maps, so I'd like them to change their mind on that. As for Skate, it's going to do well, but I don't believe enough for people to abandon the other games. I just want to play the game for the giant map/maps? and that's all.
Don't you want them to make it so the skater doesn't look like a robot ?? That should be a priority
I would definitely play if I could mod the game for a flick it system because the 2 foot controls are confusing to me like Im loving both games like skate cartoonish stuff and online but the realism of session is why I play it
For me session can have a huge update again, without that skate. will take all the hype so i hope multiplayer in session
this game is awesome on steam deck oled fyi handheld session is something else
@pigeonthief I'm new to modding session and wanted to ask if you have the illusory pro because when i download the free one it doesn't seem to work as my game just doesn't start when the pop up message says corrupted file, it doesn't
allow me to click the ok button as my cursor turns into an hourglass which i think means its freezing. pls get back to me ive had no luck anywhere to fix this issue and just want to get mods onto session.
you bro you need to do a outfit video. like fit ideas or a guide or sum cuz i need something like that cuz my session skater is look super boring.
For skaters yes but gamers I don't know !
Pigeon theif one of my favourite youtobers
Yooo honestly I haven’t been playing it like that cause it’s really nothing going on in session but we still getting clips🤙🏾.
Its sad how abandoned this game is by its developers
Dude idk but I love the game . I make edits constantly, I will say there could be so much added obviously but for me this is the standard for a skate game on console . I would keep playing skater xl but it’s not as clean looking on console for edits as sessions for me imo
yeah, as much as easy day has dropped the ball, they're actually picking up the rate at which they put in new maps and they're still not charging for them. seems like a better formula to keep things fresh than asking people to shell out money every time there's new content, feel like people are gonna hit a wall where they go "do i really wanna spend any more money on this game?"
The number one issue I've had with Session's developers is the complete lack of two-way communication. It's a very odd feeling to be in a community of players in which the game you all collectively enjoy is made by a team who doesn't even tell you what is occurring in the development cycle. Every dev is under these super odd NDAs, and they actually aren't working on the game that much at all, because for a ton of time, the studio has been working on the other game.
The thing is, there are games in which there is a single developer who is able to release more updates/content than this studio can. Over the course of an entire year, they've done almost nothing but a couple of maps.... that's it.
Respectfully, it's kind of bizarre to see people continue to rehash the same comments consistently... Why support and show love to a game in which the literal developers won't even give that back? Session is literally just a one-way community at this point, and the developers won't tell us anything that's going on, because honestly...... there just isn't anything major that's going to happen to this game. The studio does deserve all the criticism and shit they've gotten. There is no point in developing a game if you won't even clearly communicate with the player base to keep them informed, playing, and purchasing the material.
@JLNightmare would you like to give us some updates on the game, besides the NDA-approved blanket message?
i wonder if the devs behind Session and Skater XL are both just waiting to see if skate by EA is a flop OR if Skate coming out helps both those games by bringing more people into the skate game community. Either could help them. Then would be the time to drop new content and put time into PR.
The fact skate 4 will be free i feel the micro transactions wouldnt be that big a deal if it sticks to clothing stuff. Probably similar to riders republic where some as in game currency and some are real money
Yeah like its not gonna be required for locations or tricks maybe variations but mostly cosmetics the devs dont sound like they are gonna pump microtransactions at you and you can just not spend money like its not required
short answer. I think yes
Insane to me they are selling dlcs and saying the game is done, even if there are no throw down animations 😂 which would so doable even without an animator 😂
I still will be watching the channel and am exited for the content around Skate. but I am not playing session anymore, I enjoyed the game for years but just getting bored of it.
I think no matter how egregious the micro transactions are, Skate 4's going to have a dedicated playerbase. Think about how giant Skate 3 has been and is currently, and how many eyes are going to be on 4. I almost guarantee the game's going to flow and feel better than Session because Skate 3 arguably already does. And while yes, that's just my personal preference, we'd all be lying to ourselves if we said Session doesn't have issues. Animations, Vert, the general handling of the community. I'm positive both games will prosper in one way or another, and I'm not trying to say Skate's going to kill Session. Session's always going to have those die hard fans who love the control scheme, the realism, the mods or the customization. But for everyone else, ESPECIALLY non skaters, the feel of Skate 4's gameplay is going to make Session obsolete for them. Why spend money on a buggy, harder to learn game that doesn't get free updates when you can play a free to play game made by a triple A studio that's more than likely going to feel better to most people. Honestly, it feels like an unfair fight. But hey, I've been stabbed in the back by pre-release footage before, so I can't be 100% certain.
Has the developer fixed the garbage transition skating?
As much as I hate to say it, I think session is gonna die off. After the way the dropped the ball on multiple different occasions, the major disconnect between the devs and their fans. Just a couple things that will pave the way for Skate 4 to come in and pull people away. Anyways glad you had a good Christmas bro! Take it easy! ✌🏻
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I just can’t back Creature Studios anymore. They’ve shown themselves to no longer be the company we all fell in love with during early access. Paris DLC was super lazy and showed a huge drop in quality. The School dlc was better but it was tied to paid hair with hats. Then they nuked the discord and got super ban happy on all social medias. Donovan has proven himself to not be a trustworthy person and one of the worst community managers the industry has ever seen.
I've been playing Skate 4 on PS5 and it's not as good as Session imo.
first. What up Pigeon!
Animation Flow still looks whack and wonky
Game is dead to me, they just want to sell crappy dlcs and not work on the game anymore
Nah theyve been too cringe for too long now, actual lies and stuff sits pretty bad w me
Skate 4 looks like a micro transaction game thats gonna be a trash game. Its gonna be Fortnite of Skateboarding. Very cartoonish and boring after an hour.
You don't have to buy anything plus it's definitely gonna blow away any skating game out now.
@@iDrive100 No its not, Session exist and by far the greatest skateboarding game to exist. You're lying to yourself if you think anything EA sports makes is good. Skate Franchise was always mid and we only had Tony Hawk to compare it to.
Now we have Session and Skater XL that actually has better controls, and feels like Skateboarding should feel. It's not cartoonish, and you actually have to put real effort into learning how to catch and time the board, Rather than like Skate where you aren't actually catching the board.
Skate 4 is gonna be a flop and in 3 years EA will shut down the servers to the game and the game is unplayable in 3 years.
This game looks like your skater is a robot. Its horrible. Style is a huge part of skateboarding. And this game completely fails at that.