9:00 i love when youtubers forget to cut their previous takes edit: YOU COULD TRY TO COVER UP YOUR MISTAKES TMV, BUT YOU COULD NEVER MAKE US FORGET. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
Honestly surprised both tmv AND the community didnt vote for mixwell more, like i get why but I just think his impact on the culture of Spanish speaking valorant is so much larger than we see
I mean sure Shahz lead the team without a coach but honestly they had barely any set strats cuz they didn't need them. They were simply outskilling the others. I would rather put Sick in there or even Zombs
I think the ability to lead/coach a team and allow each of the 5 players to excel is what an talented coach/IGL should do, coaching isn't all about strats and in my opinion what is more important is the ability to allow the players to outskill the opponents/ just frag out. Its what most "superteams" lack is the ability to get everyone on the same page while still being able to play their own individual games.
Either you weren't there for the beginning of Val or your memories are being clouded from how annoying shaz is today. Go back and listen to old plat chat episodes, or the interview they had with him. He was consensus top 5 highest impact players for that entire sentinels era.
I was a 2021 Sen fan, watched their run live, and I agree with you. I think it's a bit of a "putting modern standards on old games" moment. The run wasn't some crazy IGL+coaching feat like it would have to be today. I mean they literally had a philosophy where they never took any timeouts. Ignoring the character of the players, Zombs clutch power was wayyy more valuable to how the game was played at that time
Just 2 things I'd like to point out:- 1. Benkai was with GE for the whole 2024 season and when I last checked I don't think he's retired (I may be wrong pls correct me if I am). So just like ardiis 2:26 Benkai rn should not be eligible for this list. (I am not saying he's not worthy he definitely is it's just that he doesn't meet the criteria you setup yourself). 2. Chet should be included as he too had a really good season in 2022-23. For anyone saying about the 2024 season then BZKA was with mibr in 2023-24 and yes that was a really bad team compared to Chet's but still if Laz is considered for not having any international trophies then Chet should be in the nominees as well. Apart from that from the final 6 I completely agree with you every player here deserves to be in the Valorant's Hall of Fame.
Redgar❤ gmb was the first team I rooted for, as I started watching pro val (and you) during their run in Berlin. And you're right, that team had an air of magic about them, that you don't really see since.
Personally I think u should take a book out of MLBs playbook and gather around your Val influencers that yk who each get to vote for a set number of possible players coaches (I would also add announcers) and if over 75 percent vote for a person they get it in if not they don’t. That way it’s not just straight 6 people no matter what every year allowing for potentially the year that one retires to play an important factor
nah mixwell should have gotten in instead of redgar or shaz. not only he's a big influence for valo in that region I don't think any other person supports or promotes the game changers as much as he does. well hope mixwell gets next year.
I think TenZ definitely deserves to be in the HOF-there is no doubt about it. I just think it's a bit too early. He literally just retired three months ago. And, although it is not very likely, there is a decent chance that he could come back next year. Again, he should definitely be in the HOF. I just think it should be next year after he's been retired for a full year.
Not putting Mixwell in is such a slap in the face for the spanish-speaking community. His literal nickname is “padre” which means father within said community lol By the same standards your putting Laz in, Mixwell needs to be in as well.
Oh. That ruling makes so much more sense. In your community post, I wasn't reading it as, to qualify, you need to be retired. I was reading it as they're not on the list because these people should be made to retire.
Wasnt Scream seen trialing for TL lately? I know he technically fits the criteria but seems weird to nominate a guy who is looking to get back into a team
Shaz deserves that spot for no reason other than the map win streak sentinels had at the time it’s rare for a team to win back to back maps for the time they did let alone series that team led by shaz pushed all other teams to get better they were the best and one of the only teams besides fanatic to have talk of a dynasty of course no team has yet achieved one
hey thats nice BUT HOW DO WE MISS CHRONICLE AND ASPAS ON THIS LIST? Chronicle is the most winningest player this game has seen yet, and Aspas... he's Aspas.
Yo so even though tenz, sacy, and others finished out last season, they are still allowed to be nominated? Doesn't that contradict what you said at the beginning?
He was good but it's like valorant was not that good then + his retirement was kind of weird and unofficial. He got into that weed stuff ( If I am not forgetting what happened ) and shit happened.
@@lolpol-hn8dv”that weed stuff”. yeah if you watched the game at the time he was the undisputed best flex player in the world during Sen’s prime. I don’t think you know what you’re talking abt
I mean they set the standard for Valorant so why not? They had the most dominant single tournament of all time for a Masters. Not matter how bad you try to disregard it!! Nobody cares if the game was new. They were also new like everyone else!! 0 maps were lost on that run
production value of this video is insane
ly low
fr tmv really pulled out all the stops on this one
9:00 i love when youtubers forget to cut their previous takes
edit: YOU COULD TRY TO COVER UP YOUR MISTAKES TMV, BUT YOU COULD NEVER MAKE US FORGET. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
wdym?
Yeah wdym?
what
huh?
i think he edited it out after this comment went up
TMV has a higher budget than netflix at this point
When chronicle retires(hopefully not soon) he will 100% be in the hall of fame as the most decorated valorant pro
just wait until westjett findsout u put shahzam in the hall of fame
gg
the "he knows" side of valorant
thought id have to look harder for a comment like this lol
the upsetti spaghetti side of valorant
When’s the Oiling Hall of Fame?
its got exactly one member
@@jeffreydenenberg7101 TMV
You forgot to edit out this part 9:00
what are you talking about?
the quality on this video is insane, That's my youtuber!!
Honestly surprised both tmv AND the community didnt vote for mixwell more, like i get why but I just think his impact on the culture of Spanish speaking valorant is so much larger than we see
I mean sure Shahz lead the team without a coach but honestly they had barely any set strats cuz they didn't need them. They were simply outskilling the others.
I would rather put Sick in there or even Zombs
I think the ability to lead/coach a team and allow each of the 5 players to excel is what an talented coach/IGL should do, coaching isn't all about strats and in my opinion what is more important is the ability to allow the players to outskill the opponents/ just frag out. Its what most "superteams" lack is the ability to get everyone on the same page while still being able to play their own individual games.
Either you weren't there for the beginning of Val or your memories are being clouded from how annoying shaz is today. Go back and listen to old plat chat episodes, or the interview they had with him. He was consensus top 5 highest impact players for that entire sentinels era.
Scream snuffed
Shazam will always be the first IGL masters champion!! Quit hating you clown!! No set Strats? So they just beat a well coached team in FNatic? 😂
I was a 2021 Sen fan, watched their run live, and I agree with you.
I think it's a bit of a "putting modern standards on old games" moment. The run wasn't some crazy IGL+coaching feat like it would have to be today. I mean they literally had a philosophy where they never took any timeouts. Ignoring the character of the players, Zombs clutch power was wayyy more valuable to how the game was played at that time
TMV already preparing to give FNS his hall of fame award
budget for this video through the roof
Therefore while he does have Therefore will he does have those championship wins Therefore while he does have that championship win
Just 2 things I'd like to point out:-
1. Benkai was with GE for the whole 2024 season and when I last checked I don't think he's retired (I may be wrong pls correct me if I am). So just like ardiis 2:26 Benkai rn should not be eligible for this list. (I am not saying he's not worthy he definitely is it's just that he doesn't meet the criteria you setup yourself).
2. Chet should be included as he too had a really good season in 2022-23. For anyone saying about the 2024 season then BZKA was with mibr in 2023-24 and yes that was a really bad team compared to Chet's but still if Laz is considered for not having any international trophies then Chet should be in the nominees as well.
Apart from that from the final 6 I completely agree with you every player here deserves to be in the Valorant's Hall of Fame.
Benkai i agree but chet isnt retired just banned
@gyd1714 bzka isn't retired as well just left MIBR (according to liquidipedia)
Isn't chet back to being CS coach after that ban?
It's definitely not about the 2024 season exclusively, seeing as Shahzam made the list and he's been washed for decades lol.
Never clicked faster
Redgar❤ gmb was the first team I rooted for, as I started watching pro val (and you) during their run in Berlin. And you're right, that team had an air of magic about them, that you don't really see since.
another masterclass production from olimar valorant
Personally I think u should take a book out of MLBs playbook and gather around your Val influencers that yk who each get to vote for a set number of possible players coaches (I would also add announcers) and if over 75 percent vote for a person they get it in if not they don’t. That way it’s not just straight 6 people no matter what every year allowing for potentially the year that one retires to play an important factor
W Shahz. I really thought Mixwell was gonna be in for sure but W inductees. But maybe make this class bigger than normal since it’s the first one!
The spy kids reference about Tenz being "the guy" was peak
wow, incredible production
westjett in shambles rn
"She knows"
I thought i sccidentally clicked on Paul's Hardware's weekly news episode thanks to that intro song bruh
I agree with all of these, but I think seeing d3ffo would have been good. He was a raidboss on Jett
Woah what program did you use to make that amazing intro????
This is the quality content I have this name for
nah mixwell should have gotten in instead of redgar or shaz. not only he's a big influence for valo in that region I don't think any other person supports or promotes the game changers as much as he does.
well hope mixwell gets next year.
he deffo will get in next year no doubt. FNS will probably retire after this season too so im gonna have mixwell and fns in the hall of fame.
Over Shaz a Masters champion? 😂😂😂😂😂
I think TenZ definitely deserves to be in the HOF-there is no doubt about it. I just think it's a bit too early. He literally just retired three months ago. And, although it is not very likely, there is a decent chance that he could come back next year. Again, he should definitely be in the HOF. I just think it should be next year after he's been retired for a full year.
Not putting Mixwell in is such a slap in the face for the spanish-speaking community. His literal nickname is “padre” which means father within said community lol
By the same standards your putting Laz in, Mixwell needs to be in as well.
I actually 100% agree with yours with Benkai being an honorable mention / potential for the next group
The intro gives me netflix live-action budget vibes
That was the intro of all time
Oh. That ruling makes so much more sense.
In your community post, I wasn't reading it as, to qualify, you need to be retired. I was reading it as they're not on the list because these people should be made to retire.
Wasnt Scream seen trialing for TL lately? I know he technically fits the criteria but seems weird to nominate a guy who is looking to get back into a team
Dont think so, he was just at the team liquid facility to reunite with some of the people he used to play with and make some content
I am making my debut this year, as the next Leo. I am the best valorant player.
1:38 I can already see this clip coming back in a years time
Zest not being on the list is diabolical
absolute cinema music choice
Twisten:(
Known for popularising shorty, sadly passed away
No marved is crazy iceman was so dominant into 2022
where twisten
Production value goes crazy
TMV presents.... his oilup?!
never let bro cook again
Shaz deserves that spot for no reason other than the map win streak sentinels had at the time it’s rare for a team to win back to back maps for the time they did let alone series that team led by shaz pushed all other teams to get better they were the best and one of the only teams besides fanatic to have talk of a dynasty of course no team has yet achieved one
TMV beats Riot Production with this one
This was my exact ballot lmao
Finally ScreaM getting the recognition he deserves
Tacolilla from the og lev roster, I mean he's not top 5 but was good enough for a mention
he is not retired
I appreciate the tenz glaze
the voted hall of fame is goated
i was ok with everyone but Shahzam and Redgar not so much but i can see why tmv chose these 2
where is my watchpartying goat sliggy (as a coach)?
Sinatra ?
Westjett not gonna be happy with thge ShaZam pick
bluelock should learn from tmv
Literally picked these 6 on mine soooo BASED ig
hey thats nice BUT HOW DO WE MISS CHRONICLE AND ASPAS ON THIS LIST? Chronicle is the most winningest player this game has seen yet, and Aspas... he's Aspas.
They arent retired and he said he would only put retired players on the list
ìs dapr the only player from sentinels reykjavik still playing?
I haven't checked but I remember seeing him play this summer so prob?
Yo so even though tenz, sacy, and others finished out last season, they are still allowed to be nominated? Doesn't that contradict what you said at the beginning?
He said if they announced retirement then they are eligible
Missed potter in the hof smh
potter is still coaching tho
stunning intro
Glad he added SicK
Am I dumb? Sacy did finish the season with SEN no? Shoudln´t he be disqualified? The same with TenZ no? And mini did finish with FNC too
I could be wrong but didn't sacy and tenz play for sen the whole of the 2024 season? (I don't know if off-season counts)
Where is Aspas ? The most cosntant player of valorant
he's not retired
It's for people who retired or are close to retiring.
Also what is cosntant?
Aspas is in VCT you emotional clown 😂
Stop. We haven't gotten there
no wardell? greatest oper oat???
Marved hello?
Marved not nomminated
He is not close to retiring lmfao
He said he wants to compete.
Marved?
Not retired bro
He said he still wants to compete
Wait... didnt Benkai finish with Global last season??
HE KNOWS
Nats shud be in finalists
He's not retired and is currently on Team Liquid
How is Tenz included when he finished last season with sen but ardiis is not?
One retired, the other is a walking question mark regarding his next year.
subroza deserves more respect
no cned is absolutely shambolic
He's currently on FUT
@ No hes not Xeus replaced him, hes trialing in VCL but not signed yet
@@martijn2k He's currently still on the roster. They're replacing him but he isn't official cut yet.
what about Tristan
Steel??!
No Hiko list invalid
sinatraa shoulda been in
Benkai played this year. Wdym?
The fact that not even 10% of people voted SicK is insane. He was minimum top 3 in the world for quite a long time
no he was not lmfao
me when i lie
He was good but it's like valorant was not that good then + his retirement was kind of weird and unofficial. He got into that weed stuff ( If I am not forgetting what happened ) and shit happened.
@@lolpol-hn8dv”that weed stuff”. yeah if you watched the game at the time he was the undisputed best flex player in the world during Sen’s prime. I don’t think you know what you’re talking abt
he knows
oiling up hall of fame
Poor zombs and sinatraa for not being nominated
lowkey benkai shldve made it
get the cockroach out of the list
I better get oiled up for this one🔥🔥🔥
Sentinels glaze is crazy
I mean they set the standard for Valorant so why not? They had the most dominant single tournament of all time for a Masters. Not matter how bad you try to disregard it!! Nobody cares if the game was new. They were also new like everyone else!! 0 maps were lost on that run
why include sick when one of ur rules was they couldnt be bad people
Yay left out??
TMV 还看不上CN瓦
i rather have genghsta than shazman
the amount of shahz hate in the comments incoming :
You are fighting ghosts
no sliggy for coach, I see u hater
Sacy is not the only one who has won masters and champs whole Fnatic Team in tokyo and sao paulo
sao paulo is not a champs it was bascially a masters but different
when did fnatic won champs? LOL
Basically a lsit of washed CS players who couldnt even last in the new game because they were so washed.
uuuuh shahzam?
remove shazam