Makes sense, I don’t think anyone ever directly confronted Anis’ beliefs, Anis has been able to cook because what she’s cooking has little to do with her own condition.
I think it is the same with neo, both Anis and Neon don't show their motivation, Rapi yes, at first she didn't have, but when the story was passing, she found motivation. It could be real epic if Anis and Neon have an upgrade.
She’s right. I wasn’t expecting such deep bars to come from Cinderella. EDIT: After watching the second part of Old Tales it makes perfect sense. Cinderella was literally there before a certain someone stopped her.
Wouldn't say this is an argument but more of a pep-talk between the two. Anis needed to hear what Cinderella had to say so that she can reflect and not be stuck with same mindset she's had for who knows how long.
@@masterchiefofhalo4525I think being beautiful is just about being true to yourself. Everyone has their own unique way of doing so; Anis seemed to be betraying herself by pretty much ignoring her own feelings and then lashing out on those who think differently from her. That’s the opposite of beautiful, dragging others down because you feel bad about yourself is rather unsightly. That’s the point being made I believe.
To be fair, Cinderella doesn't really know how bad things are for Nikkes in the Ark now. She probably still thinks that her torture was because she used to be a Heretic and not because Nikkes stopped being treated as human. For all she knows, the Ark is full of people who are grateful to the Goddess squad for stalling until the Ark was sealed. and are striving to go back to the surface, just like Oswald. Not a hellhole filled with Dovans and Syuens.
@@neh1234 that is definitely fair to say. But so to is it fair to call out Anis for trying to drag down others just because she feels bothered by those who aren’t like her. If you recall this started because Anis went out of her way to pick a fight with Cinderella, who was just being herself. If you do something like that, then you really have it coming when someone snaps back at you, know what I mean?
@@neh1234 The problem is when her comrades treat her well and Commander himself shown that there's still hope, she still in her pessimistic mind and it can jeopardize their move in the future. Cindy also in her pessimistic state and reject Abe's advance to moving forward and rewrite her story, similar like what Anis do now. In this time Anis like talking in the mirror but the mirror can talk back and telling you to "wake up" from your current mindset.
Liter may have challenged Anis to think about the future, but Cinderella, returning from the lowest point of any Nikke's life, truly compelled her to make that thought into a reality.
I'm glad we're finally getting hints about Anis's story because as much as I like Anis, the constant pessimistic, doomer mindset she exhibits REALLY gets on my nerves sometimes.
@@Heylanda-fb9xb yea but doro is mentaly unstable and needs alot work on her meanwhile cindy is all fixed up and ready to kick ass (wish it was like that gameplaywise as well but there is no perfect happyness)
Honestly im happy that Cinderella is the one to get most of the answers I wanted out of Anis (Drilly also gets a shoutout too) Throughout the Whole story i was always Wondering why Anis is So Pessimistic about our chances to make things right for the world; why is she so bent on saying our chances of winning are slim to none? What are her reasons for even being out here as a Nikke in OUR squad with that Mindset? While Drilly was able to Help me understand Anis's Way of living, Cinderella really Hit the nail on the head with Anis and Im happy for it. Now I definitely understand Anis More Clearly with what i know now. Hopefully going foward Anis Would really come out of the Arc a whole new her Like Rapi, But for herself🙏🏾
Another thing worth noting is the age difference between the time Cinderella became a NIKKE to now. Back then the goddess squad and Cindy’s team all wanted to become a NIKKE were as to now it’s not wether you want to or not it’s sadly decided on were you were born in the ark and if you had any screw ups while you were a human. Of course there’s some exceptions case in point Ludmila.
Damnit all. Cinderella is right but I can’t find what I’m living for. I’m terrified I’m going to die never having anything to live for. Strive to. And honestly? I don’t blame counters. I had the same reaction as all three did. Depression.
Live for family, for friends, or even for yourself. There will always be a goal to strive for so long as you can envision it as a reality. Even I've struggled to find purpose from time to time, but giving up isn't a solution.
If you were fine living before being reminded of this just know you can keep winging it, if you're in a ditch in life I can't give you any advice other than just live through it and attempt to get out of it. Could always try thinking of a ridiculous goal, who knows, if you can work towards that one you might make it.
I wonder if this has to do with Anis Past Self? Cuz normally she would just ignore or just act like nothing happened...but now she cannot hide anything ..u okay Anis? 😢❤
It definitely has everything to do with Anis. Now she needs to get herself together and recover whatever she's living for in order to be 'beautiful' yet again.
Breaking out of my pain Nothing ventured - nothing gained I’m my own master now Bear the mark of my scars Shedding blood underneath the stars But I will survive somehow
Kinda crazy how Liter and Cindy are pointing out that Anis lost whatever meaning she had in life before, now this really begs the question, what'll push Anis enough to get that life back...?🤔
It's not hard to understand Anis' perspective. She, and other Nikkes that created after Ark closed the gate suffered from negative prejudice and treated as mere tools. So far CG's attempt to reclaim surface failed and resort to "bribery" with Chatterbox. When Mustang treat his Nikkes dearly, Anis know in the end she's stil expendable in public eyes and GC. Being realistic, or maybe skeptical is normal mindset for Anis in this era. Now, here's Cinderella's perspective. She's created so she can make a road for Goddess Squad, only then tainted by corruption then made joint operation with Goddess Squad failed and humanity pay the heavy price. Her name was tainted, life destroyed, and she got horrible revelation that one of her comrade is the one that made her hand tainted by blood. The rest of 2nd Grimm Models also wary and hostile to her. She almost lose her life purpose and trying to end herself but enhancement by Corruption made her can't execute that. Only when Abe reached her hand and some fix by Oswald that cleared her term with other Grimm Models. If not because Queen's surprise attack in the elevator, there a chance she could take down Queen together with her friends. She want Anis to not throw her life without purpose like she almost did because she felt "empty". She trying to say don't you just live your life only because you're alive and then throwing your life next day like nothing.
There’s no choice But take orders to attack Locked up in chains I get fed But the hunger still remains Not content to live this way Being led by the blind Got to plan my dispersal Time to leave them all behind Breaking out of my pain Nothing ventured - nothing gained I’m my own master now Bear the mark of my scars Shedding blood underneath the stars But I will survive somehow Oooooooo Oooooooo Hear me howl Time to leave them all behind I’m my own master now
Anis to Dorothy: is cooking 🔥
Anis to Cinderella: getting cooked ☠️
No, Anis! You can't just argue with every grandma you meet!!
Last time that happened, she got scolded and smacked with a life lesson...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I was surprised Anis trying to argue with Cindy would trigger the start of her character arc
Makes sense, I don’t think anyone ever directly confronted Anis’ beliefs, Anis has been able to cook because what she’s cooking has little to do with her own condition.
@@Zero-ng7mw True. We know Anis has a certain view of her life and choices, but its the first time someone actually confronted her about them.
I think it is the same with neo, both Anis and Neon don't show their motivation, Rapi yes, at first she didn't have, but when the story was passing, she found motivation.
It could be real epic if Anis and Neon have an upgrade.
She’s right. I wasn’t expecting such deep bars to come from Cinderella.
EDIT: After watching the second part of Old Tales it makes perfect sense. Cinderella was literally there before a certain someone stopped her.
After watching story 2 from yt it kinda makes sense for Cindy to have such deep thoughts since all the trauma that she experienced.
Honestly, she is kinda make sense here. Sorry Anis, I'll be with her side for now cause she is right and beautiful 🫠
Wouldn't say this is an argument but more of a pep-talk between the two. Anis needed to hear what Cinderella had to say so that she can reflect and not be stuck with same mindset she's had for who knows how long.
I’m still in that mindset same as Anis. And honestly? I don’t think I’ll ever be beautiful then
@@masterchiefofhalo4525I think being beautiful is just about being true to yourself. Everyone has their own unique way of doing so; Anis seemed to be betraying herself by pretty much ignoring her own feelings and then lashing out on those who think differently from her. That’s the opposite of beautiful, dragging others down because you feel bad about yourself is rather unsightly.
That’s the point being made I believe.
To be fair, Cinderella doesn't really know how bad things are for Nikkes in the Ark now. She probably still thinks that her torture was because she used to be a Heretic and not because Nikkes stopped being treated as human. For all she knows, the Ark is full of people who are grateful to the Goddess squad for stalling until the Ark was sealed. and are striving to go back to the surface, just like Oswald. Not a hellhole filled with Dovans and Syuens.
@@neh1234 that is definitely fair to say. But so to is it fair to call out Anis for trying to drag down others just because she feels bothered by those who aren’t like her. If you recall this started because Anis went out of her way to pick a fight with Cinderella, who was just being herself. If you do something like that, then you really have it coming when someone snaps back at you, know what I mean?
@@neh1234 The problem is when her comrades treat her well and Commander himself shown that there's still hope, she still in her pessimistic mind and it can jeopardize their move in the future. Cindy also in her pessimistic state and reject Abe's advance to moving forward and rewrite her story, similar like what Anis do now. In this time Anis like talking in the mirror but the mirror can talk back and telling you to "wake up" from your current mindset.
Liter may have challenged Anis to think about the future, but Cinderella, returning from the lowest point of any Nikke's life, truly compelled her to make that thought into a reality.
Rambo, "Live for nothing, or die for something."
Anis trying to argue with Cinderella is wild 💀
Yeah I'm on edge of seat when Anis on and on argue with Cindy. I'm afraid that Cindy snap out of it
Of course anis can't beat the wisdom of a grandma who has lived for 100 years😂
I meaaaaaan, she's been asleep for most of it.
@@Tu-Li-Oh and even being the first ever corrupted and return to tell the tales
She trolled Doro and punched Snow.
Apparently albino taihou was too much for her.
@@Tu-Li-Oh Yes, she slept for a long time, but she had a lot of experiences that ordinary nikke didn't have.
This is really the "Senior saying 'listen here you little s***'" moment, but done in a softer and more gracious way, bravo my beautiful cindy 👏👏👏
I'm glad we're finally getting hints about Anis's story because as much as I like Anis, the constant pessimistic, doomer mindset she exhibits REALLY gets on my nerves sometimes.
Same here
For some reason Anis have a passive hate against older people which makes me surprised on why Mustang regard her so highly
Wait mustang does when does he praise her can you tell me? I want to make sure I haven’t skipped anything story related
@jorgequintero8141 pretty much every time they stumble upon each other and you can look at it yourself
@@justinmmos7219isn't he always praise every nikke that made from his company?
@@dynamo366 he does, but he did actively want to get Anis back on business one time.
Actually Neon already has her answer, but perhaps she knows that answering "Firepower" isn't right at this time.
Neon : damm, she's cooking her
Wouldn't be surprised if neon gets her turn soon
I dont think anis realize that, CINDERELLA is a **2nd GENERATION** grimms model.
Well. She once argue with the *FIRST GENERATION* Grimm Model and won (Dorothy).
@@Heylanda-fb9xbyeah but dorothy is dorothy
@@Heylanda-fb9xb yea but doro is mentaly unstable and needs alot work on her meanwhile cindy is all fixed up and ready to kick ass (wish it was like that gameplaywise as well but there is no perfect happyness)
Cinderella: Watashi tachi wa?
Cinderella: Nande desuka?
🤣🤣🤣
Honestly im happy that Cinderella is the one to get most of the answers I wanted out of Anis (Drilly also gets a shoutout too)
Throughout the Whole story i was always Wondering why Anis is So Pessimistic about our chances to make things right for the world; why is she so bent on saying our chances of winning are slim to none? What are her reasons for even being out here as a Nikke in OUR squad with that Mindset?
While Drilly was able to Help me understand Anis's Way of living, Cinderella really Hit the nail on the head with Anis and Im happy for it. Now I definitely understand Anis More Clearly with what i know now. Hopefully going foward Anis Would really come out of the Arc a whole new her Like Rapi, But for herself🙏🏾
Man, Cinderella just asked Anis the pointed questions she definitely didn't want to answer/has no answer to it just yet.
So what is the answer? Cause I don’t have one. And I’m scared
Another thing worth noting is the age difference between the time Cinderella became a NIKKE to now. Back then the goddess squad and Cindy’s team all wanted to become a NIKKE were as to now it’s not wether you want to or not it’s sadly decided on were you were born in the ark and if you had any screw ups while you were a human. Of course there’s some exceptions case in point Ludmila.
Damnit all. Cinderella is right but I can’t find what I’m living for. I’m terrified I’m going to die never having anything to live for. Strive to. And honestly? I don’t blame counters. I had the same reaction as all three did. Depression.
Live for family, for friends, or even for yourself. There will always be a goal to strive for so long as you can envision it as a reality. Even I've struggled to find purpose from time to time, but giving up isn't a solution.
Anis didn't expect to find her match in Cinderella.
I like seeing Cinderella being much more aware and deeper than she initially lets out when meeting her. I love her so much
Man this one has me feeling all sorts of down. What am I living for? What do I want? I don’t know. Damn this depression
@@masterchiefofhalo4525We're the same bro, when I was a kid I always thought about that
If you were fine living before being reminded of this just know you can keep winging it, if you're in a ditch in life I can't give you any advice other than just live through it and attempt to get out of it.
Could always try thinking of a ridiculous goal, who knows, if you can work towards that one you might make it.
It's just a job, 621. All of it.
spoiler
and 621 think about themselves in the end, so cinderella's point still stands. and 621 is beautiful together with ayre
@Kuroshii_ID not exactly a spoiler, but after recently replaying the FoR route, it was exactly the quote I was thinking about.
I wonder if this has to do with Anis Past Self? Cuz normally she would just ignore or just act like nothing happened...but now she cannot hide anything ..u okay Anis? 😢❤
It definitely has everything to do with Anis. Now she needs to get herself together and recover whatever she's living for in order to be 'beautiful' yet again.
2:54
I AM MY OWN MASTER NOW
Breaking out of my pain
Nothing ventured - nothing gained
I’m my own master now
Bear the mark of my scars
Shedding blood underneath the stars
But I will survive somehow
damm she stunlocked all 3 of em into questioning themselfs
Kinda crazy how Liter and Cindy are pointing out that Anis lost whatever meaning she had in life before, now this really begs the question, what'll push Anis enough to get that life back...?🤔
This beautiful fossil got some wisdom
Imagine putting Anis speechless. That's so rare XD
Looks like someone is jelly
Man this is first time anis stop argue so rough by cinderalla herself 😂😂😂
Give me a recall to MGS 2 ending scene.
My friendship has ended with Anis
Now Cinderella is my new best friend/best girl
It's not hard to understand Anis' perspective. She, and other Nikkes that created after Ark closed the gate suffered from negative prejudice and treated as mere tools. So far CG's attempt to reclaim surface failed and resort to "bribery" with Chatterbox. When Mustang treat his Nikkes dearly, Anis know in the end she's stil expendable in public eyes and GC. Being realistic, or maybe skeptical is normal mindset for Anis in this era.
Now, here's Cinderella's perspective. She's created so she can make a road for Goddess Squad, only then tainted by corruption then made joint operation with Goddess Squad failed and humanity pay the heavy price. Her name was tainted, life destroyed, and she got horrible revelation that one of her comrade is the one that made her hand tainted by blood. The rest of 2nd Grimm Models also wary and hostile to her. She almost lose her life purpose and trying to end herself but enhancement by Corruption made her can't execute that. Only when Abe reached her hand and some fix by Oswald that cleared her term with other Grimm Models. If not because Queen's surprise attack in the elevator, there a chance she could take down Queen together with her friends. She want Anis to not throw her life without purpose like she almost did because she felt "empty". She trying to say don't you just live your life only because you're alive and then throwing your life next day like nothing.
After all the things they went through together still thinking its impossible and worthless its just dumb, Anis got cooked
Anis is Pretty I am calling it, now time for Anis character development arc
If anything, Anis is questioning herself through Cinderella.
In short, she's arguing with the mirror, and the mirror is Cinderella (Glass Slippers were so shiny it can reflect yourself didn't help either)
Anachiro is right, you can't argue with that🤔
I guess this is karma for anis😅
im glad anis got silenced by goatrella anis was always annoying to me
Wich part of the event is this i download the Game 3 days ago
Main story. Ch 33 i think
@@shiori2182she is alive?
@@lelouch7649 yes. Abe kept her promise.
Annis is living like a dog
So what is the answer?
@@masterchiefofhalo4525Fight for happiness
@@AiNQz I will.
I'm siding with Cinderella on this one, everything she said is entirely true tho.
Born into pack
There’s no choice
But take orders to attack
Locked up in chains
I get fed
But the hunger still remains
Not content to live this way
Being led by the blind
Got to plan my dispersal
Time to leave them all behind
Breaking out of my pain
Nothing ventured - nothing gained
I’m my own master now
Bear the mark of my scars
Shedding blood underneath the stars
But I will survive somehow
Oooooooo
Oooooooo
Hear me howl
Time to leave them all behind
I’m my own master now