@@Jasonoid Works with your classic combustion vehicle too. The alternator Charger works on there also but the alternator might get hot after some time so it should be ok with a lower wattage.
Another great video. After your Bolt video I glanced over the Tesla forums if it can be done on Teslas. Some people say the in-car computer monitors every typical draw from 12V (such as AC, usb-C, infotainment etc). If it detects unusual draw, it has means to prevent such things. It would be shame if it cannot be done on Teslas, but I wouldn’t be surprised. I couldn’t find anyone tried this on a Tesla. Would be nice if somebody does it. Thanks again!
Glad to see the Rav4 also has a larger enough DC to DC converter to keep that 12v battery fully charged while running the 800w. Maybe one day I'll have a hybrid or electric car I can mess around with stuff like this.
Excellent video, I'm going to connect one of these to my non plugin hybrid Gen 3 Prius. Like the RAV4 the 12v battery is in the back of the car. Did you cut the cable to make it shorter as it comes with a long length of cable? Thank you.
I was told that: Drawing 800W from your alternator in stationairy will burn out your alternator prematurely. The alternator needs to be aircooled which happens when you drive. At least lower the output wattage when stationairy.
This car is a hybrid so it has a higher voltage Battery and usually no alternator. The Drive Battery is powered by large electric motors which will either propel the car or charge the battery. The car also has a 12 Volt Battery for all the systems and accessories which gets powered by a DC to DC converter.
The RAV4 Prime's DC to DC converter is under the rear, right, passenger seat, and obviously gets no benefit cooling from vehicle motion. It is fan cooled and, in fact, has a small dust filter at the front of the seat with instructions to check it for cleaning every so often.
Seems cool, but also seems over complicated with the DC to DC conversions? Does the Rav4 Prime not have a dedicated V2L socket? We don't get this model in Australia. In Australia we can just plug the car's V2L port straight into the generator socket of the house, don't need any "middle man" power generator as such. Car has a 15A output socket and house can have 15A Input socket so thatls a max of 3600w for the house. Cars like Kia EV6 etc can output the full 3600 as V2L.
I'm curious what the car's DC-DC (alternator) converter is rated for? 800W is roughly 57A @ 14v - so a really good connection to the 12v battery is super important!
Does this device .... make the car's 12 volt system look like a 20 volt solar panel to the Ecoflow Power Station? Does it limit the power to 800 watts max for over current protection? Does it have high temp shut down protection? low voltage protection? I think it does. Ecoflow engineers must have thought its not a good idea to connect directly from car to power station without some protection. The 12 volt "system" sees the attached EcoFlow dc to dc converter as "just another load" and sends the electrons down to it the same way it sees the AC/heater/heatpump/lights//stereo system so its not going to discharge the 12 volt battery if the electric car is "on". Right? Knowing the max power delivery of a dc to dc converter in a car seems useful these days. The VW ID4 dc to dc can produce 3000 watts from the traction battery while the car is on. The AC/Heater consumes around 1000 watts. It looks like a useful cheaper way to do Vehicle to Load to run stuff during a power outage or camping. For EV owners, its weird to see the word Alternator in the model name because we don't have one!
The Alternator Charger monitors the incoming voltage and shuts down if it drops between a certain threshold, which you can configure. Typically, setting that to 13v ensures it only operates while your car is on.
Weak. Show how to attach an inverter to the main traction battery. I have looked for several years and haven't found one that looks like it would reliably and economically convert the 200VDC to 220VAC.
That's because the 350VDC (not 200) of an EV traction battery would kill or maim you instantly from a finger slip. It's not a practical solution for an average person, which is the point of this video. However, some people have done what you're describing, like this person who did it with a Chevy Bolt: www.chevybolt.org/posts/748051 Or this person who did it with a Nissan Leaf battery that was pulled from the car: ua-cam.com/video/XHZWGLzT7gg/v-deo.html
This is really a cheap way to keep everything at home going in case of an outage. Nice one mate
I mean.... do you have to purchase an electric car or hybrid first.
@@Jasonoid Works with your classic combustion vehicle too. The alternator Charger works on there also but the alternator might get hot after some time so it should be ok with a lower wattage.
Another great video. After your Bolt video I glanced over the Tesla forums if it can be done on Teslas. Some people say the in-car computer monitors every typical draw from 12V (such as AC, usb-C, infotainment etc). If it detects unusual draw, it has means to prevent such things. It would be shame if it cannot be done on Teslas, but I wouldn’t be surprised. I couldn’t find anyone tried this on a Tesla. Would be nice if somebody does it. Thanks again!
Awesome!!! Mines in the mail!
Glad to see the Rav4 also has a larger enough DC to DC converter to keep that 12v battery fully charged while running the 800w. Maybe one day I'll have a hybrid or electric car I can mess around with stuff like this.
Excellent video, I'm going to connect one of these to my non plugin hybrid Gen 3 Prius. Like the RAV4 the 12v battery is in the back of the car. Did you cut the cable to make it shorter as it comes with a long length of cable? Thank you.
I was told that: Drawing 800W from your alternator in stationairy will burn out your alternator prematurely.
The alternator needs to be aircooled which happens when you drive. At least lower the output wattage when stationairy.
This car is a hybrid so it has a higher voltage Battery and usually no alternator. The Drive Battery is powered by large electric motors which will either propel the car or charge the battery. The car also has a 12 Volt Battery for all the systems and accessories which gets powered by a DC to DC converter.
The RAV4 Prime's DC to DC converter is under the rear, right, passenger seat, and obviously gets no benefit cooling from vehicle motion. It is fan cooled and, in fact, has a small dust filter at the front of the seat with instructions to check it for cleaning every so often.
Would you recommend doing this on a non-prime RAV4 hybrid?
Seems cool, but also seems over complicated with the DC to DC conversions? Does the Rav4 Prime not have a dedicated V2L socket? We don't get this model in Australia.
In Australia we can just plug the car's V2L port straight into the generator socket of the house, don't need any "middle man" power generator as such. Car has a 15A output socket and house can have 15A Input socket so thatls a max of 3600w for the house. Cars like Kia EV6 etc can output the full 3600 as V2L.
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Have you ever tried this on a BMW i3? I have a 2014 i3 BEV (no gas engine) and wondering if I can use this to feed power to my Delta Pro. Thanks!
Funny enough I was looking at both of these things and never even considered using them together😂
I'm curious what the car's DC-DC (alternator) converter is rated for? 800W is roughly 57A @ 14v - so a really good connection to the 12v battery is super important!
He talked about that in the video. He said it's rated for 1600 to 1800 watts.
I also link a video by @JamesKlafehn in the description where he stress tests the DC-to-DC converter in the Prime.
Can you limit the input wattage on the app? (Let’s say, limit it to 400W as opposed to the maximum 800W?)
Yes you can . You can even set voltage value
Did you build them jumper cables or did you buy it?
The cables come with the Alternator Charger. I added alligator clips onto it so it'd be easier to move between cars.
I want a rav4 prime even morw now.😂 i was hoping for a 4runner prime.
does it work with the delta 1 battery ?
Don't these have 1500w built in inverters like the highlander hybrids do? Why do this for only 800?
That's only on the highest trim with a special package. Cheaper to do it this way, plus the portable battery has other uses.
Plus dc/DC is more efficient than dc/ac right?
Does this device .... make the car's 12 volt system look like a 20 volt solar panel to the Ecoflow Power Station? Does it limit the power to 800 watts max for over current protection? Does it have high temp shut down protection? low voltage protection? I think it does.
Ecoflow engineers must have thought its not a good idea to connect directly from car to power station without some protection.
The 12 volt "system" sees the attached EcoFlow dc to dc converter as "just another load" and sends the electrons down to it the same way it sees the AC/heater/heatpump/lights//stereo system so its not going to discharge the 12 volt battery if the electric car is "on". Right?
Knowing the max power delivery of a dc to dc converter in a car seems useful these days. The VW ID4 dc to dc can produce 3000 watts from the traction battery while the car is on. The AC/Heater consumes around 1000 watts.
It looks like a useful cheaper way to do Vehicle to Load to run stuff during a power outage or camping.
For EV owners, its weird to see the word Alternator in the model name because we don't have one!
The Alternator Charger monitors the incoming voltage and shuts down if it drops between a certain threshold, which you can configure. Typically, setting that to 13v ensures it only operates while your car is on.
Man, I wish my 12v battery was in the back of my 4runner lol
you can literaly switch the battery there if you want.
Weak. Show how to attach an inverter to the main traction battery. I have looked for several years and haven't found one that looks like it would reliably and economically convert the 200VDC to 220VAC.
That's because the 350VDC (not 200) of an EV traction battery would kill or maim you instantly from a finger slip. It's not a practical solution for an average person, which is the point of this video.
However, some people have done what you're describing, like this person who did it with a Chevy Bolt: www.chevybolt.org/posts/748051
Or this person who did it with a Nissan Leaf battery that was pulled from the car:
ua-cam.com/video/XHZWGLzT7gg/v-deo.html
@@brsm I've changed the batteries in these cars, so I am aware of the safety risks and how to do the work safely.