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There is a book on this subject - Centennial Crisis: The Disputed Election of 1876 - by Chief Justice William Rehnquist. This is essential reading for anyone interested in the subject.
Rehnquist's book is as I recall rather short compared to Morris's book. It's dry and colorless with a big emphasis on the role of the Supreme Court. Fraud of the Century is much more entertaining.
@@pkneeno I did my senior paper in college on the election and read both books. You are absolutely right. Rehnquist typically writes at an easy reading level, and then all of the sudden it gets really hard for a paragraph. That makes it really hard to read.
I wish he had included my favorite Tilden quote "I can retire to private life with the consciousness that I shall receive from posterity the credit of having been elected to the highest position in the gift of the people, without any of the cares and responsibilities of the office."
I have a minuscule connection to this story. It began when I bought a house in Concord Massachusetts, which had a history. It had originally been a schoolhouse, and was rented by Henry David Thoreau and his brother when they ran a school in Concord. One of Thoreau's students in that school was a boy named George Hoar. George Hoar grew up and became prominent, and was elected as a US Senator from Massachusetts, a Republican. When Congress needed to form a commission to investigate the disputed electoral votes in the Tilden vs Hayes election, it was obvious that the commission should be equally balanced between Republicans and Democrats, but it had to have an odd number of members so that it would be able to reach a decision. The powers that be decided that they needed a committee member who was a Republican but of such trustworthy character that he would put facts before party. That was Samuel Hoar. (But honest or not, he voted to give all the disputed the electoral votes to Hayes.)
@@kokolanza7543 The Republicans had had total control over the government for 15 years at that point. No way they were gonna give up that golden goose.
im reading gore vidals narratives of empire novels. 1876 is the third in the series and tells the story of the compromise through the eyes of fictional journo charlie schuyler, illegitimate son of aaron burr. brilliant historical novel
The 1876 election was the closest election in the history of the United States since the electoral vote margin was a 1 vote victory margin since Rutherford Birchard Hayes won 185 electoral votes to Samuel Jones Tilden's 184 electoral votes.
This is why when this speaker said "President Elect Tillden" was wrong. Electoral votes determine the winner. Not popular vote. Now there was rampant fraud on both sides of this election. And not sure if there can ever be a true winner in this election because of this fact. But the speaker here was incorrect saying "President elect Tillden".
Obviously this book and this presentation was done years before the election of 2020. I would love to see some point by point comparison of the 1876 election and the 2020 election. I think the certification of electors by the respective state governors was key in each. I think Congress and the Supreme Court wanted be neutral as much as possible. It also seems to me to demonstrate that ‘paper ballots’ and ‘Election Day voting only’ are NOT ‘magic bullets’ to ensure election integrity.
One thing is certain: Hayes didn't call the Secretary of State of Georgia up on the phone and threaten to throw him in prison if he didn't "find 11,780 votes (which is one more than we have)".
Wow I've never heard of this election, i wonder why? Then i wonder why school doesn't teach you anything about anything these days. I wonder if my history teacher even knows about this?😔
School curriculum wants to hit on about 5 or 6 topics, usually going from the American Revolution to the Civil War without talking about the events that led to the conflict.
@@rudolphguarnacci197History teachers likely _do_ know about this, but because none of this info is on any of the standardized tests there's no point in teaching it
Southern Democrats: You stole the election!!! Tyrant! Hayes: (whispers) Maybe I did. But I’ll give you all racist shit you want if you look the other way. Southern Democrats: Deal!!
Interesting subject, one I'll pursue through the various books available on the subject. Unfortunately, the speaker made a compelling story boring and difficult to listen to. Out of frustration, I gave up after 25 minutes in.
This could not be more appropriate in this era. I thought i grew up back when most Republicans honored their Oaths of Office, but many events, including this lecture have lead me to the more realistic conclusion that honorable Republicanism died as Lincolns murdered body cooled.
@@psivil.disobedience...Do you ever get the feeling that you're in a cult that revolves around the Biden crime family and where CNN, MSNBC and other liberal news outlets control the narrative and where the FBI and the DOJ cover up and protect the Biden's from prosecution when clear evidence is available??
@@psivil.disobedienceworshipping the government is the new religion. That and pride. Just like any religion, there's different sects. The American Government Church that half the country votes for and the other half doesn't believe in has two major sects. The Republican and Democrat congregations. Recently, the Republican congregation had a lively preacher who called out the shameful behavior of the people leading this new couple hundred year old church. So the church leaders and their sponsors went crazy to tell everybody that they have to pick sides based on their morality. This religious fever led to a frenzy over the last three years while people have decided to display their religious beliefs with face coverings and through a Eucharist of medical inventions. Those of us who don't worship the state had to sit back in disbelief while our fellow-citizens went crazy over invisible demons and Rich bureaucrats. The psychopathic worshippers wouldn't let us unclean people even enjoy the sound of live music because we wouldn't pray into the Eucharist that was invented by the government. So keep trying to shame people who don't believe in the religious version of the government God that you believe in. It's going really well.
Over 60 court case in multiple Jurisdictions found no evidence (even Trump leaning jurisdictions). See, the difference between the two cases you mention…one is chalk-full of evidence the other lost Fox News $2B and got a lot of other frauds thrown in jail.
As for the guy giving the presentation, I don't think he has a political bias. Hayes becoming President provided us a poor leader who got nothing accomplished, and it led to the South becoming a nightmare for black people.
As noted by Mr Morris, Congress had already voted to stop funding federal troop deployments in South Carolina and Louisiana, and troops were removed from Florida by the Grant administration. It is unlikely that a Democrat President would have reinstated them.
I'm pretty sure he is. He mentioned his home state is Tennessee, and he suggests more than once that Al Gore was similarly denied the White House in 2000.
The Whitehall Lecture Series returns on February 4, 2024 titled "The Unlikely Titans of Industry and Commerce". The Series will include lectures on: Frank Winfield Woolworth by biographer George W. Nelson, Thomas Alva Edison by biographer Dr. Paul Israel, James Cash Penney by biographer David Delbert Kruger, John Wanamaker by biographer Dr. Nicole C. Kirk, George Westinghouse by biographer William R. Huber, and Henry Ford by biographer Dr. Steven Watts.
The Series is streamed live to Vimeo. If you are interested in attending either online or in-person at the Flagler Museum, you can sign up to our mailing list at tinyurl.com/FlaglerMuseum or visit FlaglerMuseum.us for more information.
There is a book on this subject - Centennial Crisis: The Disputed Election of 1876 - by Chief Justice William Rehnquist. This is essential reading for anyone interested in the subject.
Rehnquist's book is as I recall rather short compared to Morris's book. It's dry and colorless with a big emphasis on the role of the Supreme Court. Fraud of the Century is much more entertaining.
Ironic, considering 2000...
@@pkneeno I did my senior paper in college on the election and read both books. You are absolutely right. Rehnquist typically writes at an easy reading level, and then all of the sudden it gets really hard for a paragraph. That makes it really hard to read.
Thanks for uploading this lecture. Very interesting.
I wish he had included my favorite Tilden quote "I can retire to private life with the consciousness that I shall receive from posterity the credit of having been elected to the highest position in the gift of the people, without any of the cares and responsibilities of the office."
I have a minuscule connection to this story. It began when I bought a house in Concord Massachusetts, which had a history. It had originally been a schoolhouse, and was rented by Henry David Thoreau and his brother when they ran a school in Concord. One of Thoreau's students in that school was a boy named George Hoar. George Hoar grew up and became prominent, and was elected as a US Senator from Massachusetts, a Republican.
When Congress needed to form a commission to investigate the disputed electoral votes in the Tilden vs Hayes election, it was obvious that the commission should be equally balanced between Republicans and Democrats, but it had to have an odd number of members so that it would be able to reach a decision.
The powers that be decided that they needed a committee member who was a Republican but of such trustworthy character that he would put facts before party. That was Samuel Hoar. (But honest or not, he voted to give all the disputed the electoral votes to Hayes.)
Seems like Tilden couldn't buy a break. 😟
@@kokolanza7543 The Republicans had had total control over the government for 15 years at that point. No way they were gonna give up that golden goose.
Interesting stuff
There needs to be a small budget film depicting this.
This guy definitely has an ax to grind. I don’t appreciate his political bias.
@@richardmiranda640yjbb is the b ggg gb
@@richardmiranda640, can you provide some specific examples?
@jdpalm1981: Sure, but why small budget particularly?
"Rather B. Fraud" Hayes as they used to call him back in the day! 😂😅
Topped by the fraud of Brandon
Biden won by 7 million votes. Get over it
Tissue?
@@elijahFree2000yo momma shoulda took the load on her chest.
im reading gore vidals narratives of empire novels. 1876 is the third in the series and tells the story of the compromise through the eyes of fictional journo charlie schuyler, illegitimate son of aaron burr. brilliant historical novel
Fiction. It’s historical fiction.
@@randylayhe4279 yes, novels are fiction. He acknowledged that in his initial comment
Burr is also a great Vidal book, I recommend
The 1876 election was the closest election in the history of the United States since the electoral vote margin was a 1 vote victory margin since Rutherford Birchard Hayes won 185 electoral votes to Samuel Jones Tilden's 184 electoral votes.
This is why when this speaker said "President Elect Tillden" was wrong. Electoral votes determine the winner. Not popular vote. Now there was rampant fraud on both sides of this election. And not sure if there can ever be a true winner in this election because of this fact. But the speaker here was incorrect saying "President elect Tillden".
I prefer to think that the 5 am pounding on the door was the ghost of
whoever it was that was sent to inform Tilden he *wasn't* president after all.
Possibly a good description of Lindsey Graham at 12:45
Where Tilman house in NYC please give me address? Thank you in advance!!
Tilden got robbed
Start 22:00
Obviously this book and this presentation was done years before the election of 2020. I would love to see some point by point comparison of the 1876 election and the 2020 election. I think the certification of electors by the respective state governors was key in each. I think Congress and the Supreme Court wanted be neutral as much as possible. It also seems to me to demonstrate that ‘paper ballots’ and ‘Election Day voting only’ are NOT ‘magic bullets’ to ensure election integrity.
One thing is certain: Hayes didn't call the Secretary of State of Georgia up on the phone and threaten to throw him in prison if he didn't "find 11,780 votes (which is one more than we have)".
Wow I've never heard of this election, i wonder why? Then i wonder why school doesn't teach you anything about anything these days. I wonder if my history teacher even knows about this?😔
School curriculum wants to hit on about 5 or 6 topics, usually going from the American Revolution to the Civil War without talking about the events that led to the conflict.
Your history teacher does not know about this.
@@rudolphguarnacci197History teachers likely _do_ know about this, but because none of this info is on any of the standardized tests there's no point in teaching it
@@ShermTank7272
I wouldn't make that assumption.
Southern Democrats: You stole the election!!! Tyrant!
Hayes: (whispers) Maybe I did. But I’ll give you all racist shit you want if you look the other way.
Southern Democrats: Deal!!
History or futurology?
I read a great book on this election. Tilden won.
Well it was overturned and Hayes won the next year.
more rellevent then ever to know about this
It’s evident that this lecture was in 2013. Those were the last years of the Lost Causers. The running down of Grant makes that clear.
Dunno about 2013 being their last years, Mitch McConnell and Marjorie Taylor Greene love their Stars-n-Bars
They should taken out Haues.
602 lb woman? Whats Stacey Abrams got to do with it?
Did you mean Brandon? Cuz you said Hayes..but it sounded like you may have meant Joe
The Union should have dissolved the Rebel states, not let them back in scot-free
360p? Really?
34:00 Did you mean to predict the future?
This guy is not exactly a stem winding orator ( first time I've ever used that phrase), but at least I didn't know anything about the topic.
Interesting subject, one I'll pursue through the various books available on the subject. Unfortunately, the speaker made a compelling story boring and difficult to listen to. Out of frustration, I gave up after 25 minutes in.
This could not be more appropriate in this era. I thought i grew up back when most Republicans honored their Oaths of Office, but many events, including this lecture have lead me to the more realistic conclusion that honorable Republicanism died as Lincolns murdered body cooled.
To suggest that one party is less corrupt than the other only allows for both parties to remain corrupt.
I take it that you are a giant fan of Woodrow Wilson and LBJ, for example.
Nixon sabotoged the Nam peace talks to get elected! Reagan Iran hostage and Iran Contra! Trump help me Putin!@@RandallMeals
Even as a republican I have to say you may just be right
@@doddsino
Sadly you are so right there’s corruption on both sides
Moore Kevin Lewis Sharon Martinez Margaret
Student film released on beta Max 😅 it's the future.
I thank you and appreciate your correct advice videos because history repeats itself in 2020
Do you ever get the feeling you’re in a religion that revolves around Trump?
Did it?
@@psivil.disobedience...Do you ever get the feeling that you're in a cult that revolves around the Biden crime family and where CNN, MSNBC and other liberal news outlets control the narrative and where the FBI and the DOJ cover up and protect the Biden's from prosecution when clear evidence is available??
It's relatively simple. Trump has fewer supporters
@@psivil.disobedienceworshipping the government is the new religion. That and pride. Just like any religion, there's different sects. The American Government Church that half the country votes for and the other half doesn't believe in has two major sects. The Republican and Democrat congregations. Recently, the Republican congregation had a lively preacher who called out the shameful behavior of the people leading this new couple hundred year old church. So the church leaders and their sponsors went crazy to tell everybody that they have to pick sides based on their morality. This religious fever led to a frenzy over the last three years while people have decided to display their religious beliefs with face coverings and through a Eucharist of medical inventions.
Those of us who don't worship the state had to sit back in disbelief while our fellow-citizens went crazy over invisible demons and Rich bureaucrats. The psychopathic worshippers wouldn't let us unclean people even enjoy the sound of live music because we wouldn't pray into the Eucharist that was invented by the government.
So keep trying to shame people who don't believe in the religious version of the government God that you believe in. It's going really well.
Excuse me. Have you ever heard of Joe Biden? Hayes was small potatoes compared to this
Over 60 court case in multiple Jurisdictions found no evidence (even Trump leaning jurisdictions). See, the difference between the two cases you mention…one is chalk-full of evidence the other lost Fox News $2B and got a lot of other frauds thrown in jail.
prove it
Most popular president of all time, Joe Biden?
you mean joe biden worst ever
no..read it again
Joe Biden is an empty vessel. Period.
One wonders: if Al Gore had been as self-centered as Donald Trump, would the world be cool today? btw, fyi, Plummer was Canadian.
No Iraq War if Gore wins, maybe no 9/11. Thanks Florida
The speaker is entitled to his opinion about Grant's presidency but is not entitled to make it seem it is history.
Gonna have to remake this with the Biden election
I wonder if this guy is a southern Democrat. I know he damn sure isn’t a southern Republican.
Hays was from Ohio
As for the guy giving the presentation, I don't think he has a political bias.
Hayes becoming President provided us a poor leader who got nothing accomplished, and it led to the South becoming a nightmare for black people.
@@doddsinoBut nowhere near the nightmare that the blacks became for the south
As noted by Mr Morris, Congress had already voted to stop funding federal troop deployments in South Carolina and Louisiana, and troops were removed from Florida by the Grant administration. It is unlikely that a Democrat President would have reinstated them.
I'm pretty sure he is. He mentioned his home state is Tennessee, and he suggests more than once that Al Gore was similarly denied the White House in 2000.
Shady shit.