"How You Feel Is A Lie" w/ John Broz - Episode 171
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Everyone who has been coached by Broz (including myself for over a year) respect the heck out of him. Has the athletes best interest at heart. Genuine, badass guy
Jared Enderton thanks bro-han
***** This interview makes me want to drop everything and go to Vegas to train full time. Awesome interview. More people need this kind of mentality for sure.
RIP Chris Moore, your laughter joy and smile will be sorely missed :)
Man I miss Chris :( this episode randomly popped up on my suggested feed. RIP brother, and to the rest of the Shrugged crew keep doing what you're doing
I've only just started this program but you seriously get addicted. I'm no strength trainer or weightlifter, just typical guy looking to gain size and strength and feel good. I woke up feeling crap today and missed my morning squat session(daily), the ENTIRE day at work all I could think about was getting underneath the bar and pumping some out and I used to hate squats with a passion. Ended up going as soon as I finished work. It makes you feel alive and everything gets so easy once you're used to squatting heavy every morning.
10 minutes in and I can already tell this guy is humble but extremely knowledgeable. Most people in this game are ego driven and they can be hard to listen to. John seems to have a ton of experience that only time and effort can create.
Awesome interview. Love the part when he talks about telling someone to hurry up and go to the store and get something for him without any directions, relating it to how people who do not follow a program are just wandering around with no direction as well. Gotta know where you're going. Keep it up guys.
not as much a program, but having clearly defined goals. The route can change on a road trip, but the destination remains the same
I cabbed to his gym from Vdarra, twice. Got me to an 82.5 kg power clean, great snatch technique in 40 minutes. I rarely Oly lift, primarily bench/squat/dead. I was beyond impressed with John Broz. I knew I was going to a strong gym when I saw the red Forza bench on his website. Lifting then hiking in Red Rock canyon is my new thing in Vegas. Make it yours too.
I adopted the ***** way of squatting and in 14 months went from 172lbs to 200lbs... back squat went from about 320 to 470. front squat went from 275 to 420
Greg Gramelspacher nice!
Good stuff. I adopted a Jordan Peters style system for throwers. 10 months later my front squat went from 200kg for a 2 rep max to 220kg for 8 with a secondary set of 180kg for 14. Training high intensity and frequently has worked wonders for me.
Sounds like you're kind of a novice to begin with. You were going to experience quite a bit of gains either way.
I don't know if you're going to read this John, but I have to say thank you. What you're saying here is so true. I saw some of your videos so I decided to try, I have been training like this since October 2014: my squat was 130kg and now it is 172kg. My squat has always been my weakest lift and couldn't increase it easily. It's really really tough both mentally and phisically but the results are amazing.
IanTraining Happy to know that its working for you. Keep up the hard work and you will continue to grow mentally and physically.
Thank you so much, the fact that you have replied to me is a real motivation for me! I want to reach 200kg by the end of the year, if i will be able, i will make a video so you can see it ;)
Incredibly awesome conversation. Amazing coach.
No excuses,
Me and a buddy uses to go to the gym - no matter how shitty we felt, or emotional defeated we were from a shitty day at work, or physically drained from doing other peoples shitty job, or under nourished. Don't even mention the time of night (or morning). And the way we looked at each other reading each other minds asking each other 'what the hell are we doing'. No excuses. We would just make it.
" you need a very clear goal to get somewhere "
one of the best videos of the channel, for sure
Had been doing the squat every day thing for the past bit and was about to not squat today to rest.. not anymore. Heading to the gym in about 10 minutes,
John Broz actually engaging people in the comments. You just won me over bro. Fucking legit dude
def one of my fav guests...didnt know john was such a badass...also the last 3-4 eps have been really strong
This one was the best i've watched so far. Thanks for all the insight guys. How can we hear more from John?
where is the link to the study (garbage bag squat) that was mentioned in the video? Thanks. Great stuff guys!!!
Great vid. I started the squat everyday program already and its been great. So much great material in this vid. Cant get enough! Im at 345 now, and can't wait to get my squat into the 400's.
THANKS JOHN BROZ!
Awesome quote material at: 57:55!!!!!!!
Jay Sims post the 400 vid when you make it.
I want to train like this but my body can't handle it. At 39 y.o., 3 kids and enough work stress to keep my anxiety levels high all the time, I simply can't handle high intensity workouts. If I do the lifts heavy even 4 times per week I get prone to dizzy spells and general overtraining syndrome type stuff (fatigue despite sleep, soreness despite good nutrition, brain fog/lack of motivation, etc). I need to build up my work capacity while working out stress in other areas of life, but for now I can only do 2 heavy sessions per week...I am still making gains; just wish I could train more often because my window to get stronger is closing.
Mark Mondrinos stick with it.
I love how nonchalantly John said his 77kg lifter snatched 142 after 17 MONTHS training. That blew my mind. I'm sold on squatting every day
every time you touch the bar... it's a plus... if you don't... it's a minus...
Meh
@@daytonasayswhat9333 fuck off.
Woffe Ooh, tough guy. There of course is a time and a place for time off of the gym. Any real athlete knows that. Anyone who makes silly statements like you should always work out all the time no matter what is likely not a good athlete
34:15 lmfao. That is the only motivation you should ever need to go and lift. TY, broz-doesinfact-know
You should have asked if/how he motivates women differently or coaches them differently? For instance, do they typically respond best to calm coaching or the in-your-face approach? I guess it would change per individual, but I would have loved to hear his thoughts.
My friends here in Calgary, AB all want to go to Vegas to paint the town and party...I just want to go to Vegas to train with Jon at ABG!!
Kocis19 Doors open!
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lol thats funny you guys joke about the old location. I still remember back in 2013 when I was living across from South Point casino, I drove up and down Dean Martin several times looking for average broz gym thinking where da f*ck is this place? Do they not want people to find it?! haha now you guys moved literally a block from where I used to live and wish I was still over there, maybe I should move back just to lift here haha
23:03
Doug is like this is some good as shit were getting from broz lol
my squat when from 375 to 420 in 3 weeks...... Broz knows...
yeah dianabol does that to you.. broz knows thisss
+Tom Popz al afghan gayi increases calorie intake by 1000 cals and hit one heavy single until failure... hard work goes along way bro...
The "original gain weight formula" ( before steroids ) , Was called "Squats and Milk". We used to drink a gallon of milk per day and do 20 rep squats no more than 2x per week.
this is so true. the last year ive prob had 5 times where ive felt like total shit, like i couldnt even do the bar and i got prs in all lifts. if you feel like shit, chug alot of coffeine and get your ass to the gym and atleast try to do SOMETHING.
Great guests lately! What about Dan John?
I trained the way Broz advocates back a few years back. It was pretty horrible. I made decent progress, but the costs to my body were not worth it. Maybe this works for some guys, but they're strongly in the minority. Even today and even with lots of drugs, most professional olympic lifters don't train this hard or with this level of specificity. The elite Chinese are training maybe ~10 times a week and doing lots of variants and accessory exercises. They also tend to squat relatively higher reps and max relatively infrequently.
You might rebut this by saying that there are still records from the '80s of guys who trained this way that still haven't been broken, but they literally didn't have a test for turinabol back then. Even then, the Soviets were easily on par with the Bulgarian team of the 80s training far less frequently, at lower intensity, and with longer and less injury riddled careers.
I think this advocating this training style for recreational lifters is really dishonest and bad. Even for professional lifters its debatable and they could probably get better results over their whole career using a less demanding training methodology. This kind of thing will work for a small portion of people and I feel like most people who train this way end up with worse results in the long run, even if they make better progress in the short run.
Just my experiences and opinions, feel free to respond with ad-hominems.
It is possible for people to respond without personal attacks.
You may have trained hard, as I do advocate, and have experienced discomfort that didn't make the juice worth the squeeze however your speculation on how the rest of the world trains is not accurate.
"most professional olympic lifters don't train this hard or with this level of specificity"
Enver Turkileri is the current KAZ coach. here is an interview with him and how he trains the KAZ team, along with the Turkish team during their reign and his Bulgarian past:
www.almaty2014iwf.com/eng/news/7
Not to mention that Norik Vardanian has stated in podcasts that the Armenian team basically kills themselves in training. I could tell you countless stories I have heard directly from athletes, such as Ruslan Nurudinov and how he trained through a surgery to make the 2014 WWC, but point is, they all train specific and hard.
"Even then, the Soviets were easily on par with the Bulgarian team of the 80s training far less frequently, at lower intensity, and with longer and less injury riddled careers."
Going of sheer numbers, BUL had 8-9 million people in their entire population and the USSR had 1/2 that many people only doing weightlifting. The mere fact that Bulgaria beat the USSR world team on multiple occasions while taking into account that USSR consisted of a multitude of current countries that can dominate individually, such as: Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Combined it was a dream team! This is a remarkable achievement especially considering the funding for BUL was far less than the immense resources available to the Soviets.
If you have ever seen the calculated tonnage that the Soviets lifted during their periods you would know that they did an immense amount of volume and intensity as well.
There have been 4 triple Olympic weightlifting champions. This title requires a career with a minimum of 12 years of global dominance to accomplish. Two of four were coached by Turkileri and three of four by Abadjiev with the Bulgarian methods. Ilya Ilyin also trains very hard with identical methods.
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Have you ever had a guy's job just ruin his progress? My volume, sets and reps are basically the same, but my muscle is down since starting a new job. It is basically 8-11 hours of standing and doing simple tasks. Sort answer is, get a new job, which is the goal, but I hate to see my physique shift towards skinny fat over the next 4 months. I only trainvertical jump about 2 times a weeks now because every day you feel ripe for an injury, and I have injured my back twice when it gets too tight-back spasms. Never injured it during an actual exercise, though, just random moments.
Polarcupcheck its all about stress and adaptation. If you life outside of the gym causes stress, then your body can not adapt to stress in the gym. Reduce the stress of life and gains will return. Either that or when you adapt to work and it becomes less of a stress.
see a chiro. this is usual
Polarcupcheck how did you fix the tightness and spasms ?!! Help
link to study ?
+jeff2888 I want the study too! I actually had an opportunity to reference it today but couldn't find it here or on barbellshrugged.com :/
+Brad Hearne lol
So squat every day? That's mindblowing. There are some people who claim that there are data showing that people need several days, maybe even more than a week, to fully recover from high loads. I don't know what the hell to think.
Forbes Winthrop Try for yourself
Forbes Winthrop "To fully recover" - That donsnt mean getting maximum gains, it just litterally means all the muscle fibers are fully repaired, but you dont need to wait that long to see increase in strenght. There is alot of factors that plays into why its good to squat everyday, one of the most noteable is WHENEVER* you work your muscles, they get a faster protein synthesis, so they can basically repair/heal them selves faster over time, and eventually you will be able to recover from a workout in a matter of hours instead of days. Maybe squatting everyday isnt for you yet, but eventaully it will be, try it out, if you can manage less LBS/KG than the day before, then take 1 rest day and try again, maybe you need 2 rest days, it dont matter. Everyone adapts differently, but eventaully everyone has the potential to train everyday/move heavy weights. Just experiment, and push yourself, and dont have expectations of being stronger or weaker, just go and fucking lift as hard as you can, and pay attention to what your stats is with different amounts of rest time - And remember, it will improve, you just gotta push yourself and try to go, even thoe you're feeling sore. Good luck
+Forbes Winthrop The first day I tried, my legs are dead. I can't even run. I guess no squatting everyday for me, but maybe 2-3 times a week first.
your tissue and CNS can adjust to higher recoverability capabilities when in a tough demanding environment. You can adapt but make sure you know why you are doing it
How is Doug Larsen qualified to give squat advice? What is his best squat?
hedanhercules 2 million
Lol!
This show would be a lot better if Mike and Chris weren't hammered drunk every other episode.
I think it'd be a lot worse if they weren't...
Agree to disagree
aj992ify Missouri Compromise
Penn Tarleton maybe if they were still drunk but less gay
Whoa, I never noticed mike has an I voted today sticker on in his part of the intro.
Uh oh... this guy only started lifting at 34
Nice with the Alt-J!
Of course the interview too.....mind. ...goner
Top 5 podcast yet. There's a reason all of his lifters put up insane numbers and dominate meets...they train hard and all the time. If you disagree with his methodology, or the notion of needing to train heavy and hard often in oly lifting, then you are probably weak and haven't reached your potential.
39:56 Busted checkin out the hottie.
Man I wish I could ask John some questions...
***** Your name has been invoked.
Melvin Jensen If Broz actually replies I'm going to pee a little.
GOAT he replies on instagram a lot actually. Tag him a few times w/ a valid question when he posts something and I bet he'll respond. Amazing coach and an awesome guy
GOAT what's on your mind?
***** Hey, thank you for replying! This is kind of difficult to explain, but I'll give it a shot. There's this "theory" floating around about daily training and it's application to younger lifters. According to the theory, putting an inexperienced lifter on a program where they are pretty much maxing out their volume would lead to that lifter topping out their ability to adapt to work load before they actually get to their peak in strength. In other words, the lifter gets to a point where they can't add any more work, but because they are so well adapted to said work, they stop getting stronger. What do you think of this? (I hope that made some sense.)
Free bonus question!: Do you think that the ultra high-intensity, training max at every session strategy could be applied to someone who can only train 4-5 sessions a week (or someone who is too lazy to train more often?) I hope that's not too much of a programming-type question.
I'm asking for a friend....
Nonsense !
Life lesson. Why aren't you doing IT now? What are you waiting for? We wait for death.
did I hear that wrong? 77kg guy snatching over 140kg after training just for 17 months? is this real?
yeah angelo bianco
It's fucked how loud it is in there lmao #noisecancelingandcondensorscanthandlearnold #putthecookiedownnow
Yea it sounded "better" in the monitoring headphones at the time then it did once back at home.. I cleaned it up best I could :(
Barbell Shrugged It sounds really loud in there! You did an awesome job cleaning up the sound!
Barbell Shrugged It sounds really loud in there! You did an awesome job cleaning up the sound!
Barbell Shrugged
Seriously don't sweat it, incredible job cleaning up the noise, really great technical achievement here actually. Must have been hard to hear each other without the headsets, let alone get a good recording.
GTFO is this an april fools joke? I'm no training expert but heavy squats every day. No fucking way!
pretty sure this 1hr long video included a lot of stuff about why you thinking that is why you are weak.
Well, heavy is not *heavy*. "Heavy" means the weight you can squat completely calm with no stimulants, loud music, technique flaws, or grinders at that time. On shitty days, heavy won't be so heavy. Also, when you start squatting every day, you find you get very good at squatting and reducing the flaws that cause you to get beat up. I learned a lot about my squat and deadlift when I knew I had to come back and do it again tomorrow.
Victory Before Combat "how you feel is a lie"