I am a true star wars fan for 10 years since i was a child, i got many close memories with it and its so heartbreaking for me to see star wars ruining.
The emperor survived in the EU (Legends) a long time ago. The same consciousness transference was used in those books. Disney just used an already established maguffin. Be a gen-X SW fan and you’ll see how many times canon got revised. Disney didn’t do anything they want already done before.
The difference is that wiches actively used the force for their magic tomforge the birth. Anakin was just created by the force (or have fan theories that Plagueis is his father been canonically be confirmed ?)
@@jorgegfigueroa9755 everybody said him he's the chosen one he had the highest midichlorian count ,so he can become the strongest force user he hasn't got father like the chosen one . And he killed the emperor so he brought balance to the force like the chosen one,so he is the chosen one ,this is a good or bad thing this is the true accept is
My guess its blood magic like the night sisters they harnessed like the ascension ritual a soul split into 2 to become new powerful warriors for the clan. That or clones invitro its star wars they are still very advanced for a tribe of alien witches
They haven't ruined it, they actually followed the rule. It is a phenomenon. They literally just explained the lore and set in stone dismissing other theories behind his birth. The Vergence in the Force was an extremely rare event which we know though Palpatine was extremely powerful he couldn't have created Anakin without such an event as if he could it would have been repeated in the final 3 movies by Palpatine.
yet they don’t realise they are the very monsters themselves. The fan base of Star Wars is strictly the majority or men and children even though it is a dark story It is child friendly and was written in a way that was so perfect that you couldn’t possibly hate it. It seems to me the more later in time we get the more easily offended. The generation becomes so much so that they feel that they need absolute power to back them up to get their point across when it is no one’s rights to force someone to listen to something they don’t want to listen to that is what freedom is, and that is how you felt with the skywalker saga up to return of the Jedi. It was a real story with realistic writing, something that people could escape to end. It never had a problem even with the female audience. so why is this a problem now that we need to make the strictly for women win the majority of the fan base is men and children . It seems to me we’ve got double standards and hypocrisy going on here. Anakin is was and will always be the chosen one of Star Wars.
Did we not listen to the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? He was so powerful he could manipulate midiclorians and create life. It’s spelled out in revenge of the Sith that this is a known dark side power.
Its a fair point but it was VERY ambiguous and we don’t even know to what extent. Could he bring back life or actually create it? Palpatine who basically became the dark side incarnate wasn’t able to come close to replicating that ability so as of right now we will never know
The dark plagueis books are considered a legend now. But yes he could create life. I don't think this takes away from the "Chosen one prophecy" because while the twins in aycolte where born with the force. The mother manipulated it to do so. Anakin's birth was because of the force itself and no one else is involvement.
@@alexworoniecki7231 ya. I’m taking it from the Rots quote more than any of the eu sources as a literal “create life” and save some from death (force healing) now both abilities canon to Disney Star Wars
Force healing is also Disney Star Wars. Also completely breaks the canon. Idgaf who bought it, but I also adhere to the fruit of the poison tree: 90% of all new Star Wars is BS.
@@MrAwesome874 force healing is from legends. Tales of the Jedi also have Bariss implied using it. Which is also from the legend comics she was in. Don't get me wrong I dislike the sequel trilogy because it had bad writing. But alot of the things people have issues from is just stuff they are recycling from legends.
I don’t really care. When it comes to any fictional media if I dislike a plot point I can just pretend it didn’t happen. Writers retcon old stuff all the time I’ll just ignore new stuff I dislike and enjoy the stuff I do
Its not even close to the same acolytes twins were a result of witchcraft and dark magic type shit anakin was from the force 😂like damn so many starvwars “fans” just wanna hate on anything new Star Wars is it a great show no its like 6.9 but atleast its new Star Wars content and its decent
No one created Anakin, he’s the INCARNATION of the force. Also the Mortis arc is canon and literal Gods confirmed this fact. The prophecy is thousands of years old, Acolyte timeline is also aware it
The Force created Anakin as a response to Darth Plageius attempting to manipulate life with the force. The Acolyte is basically saying these random witches were able to do something not even Palpatine or his Master were able to succeed in. It’s awful
@@MovieTalkNow No, the force responded Plageuis' attempt to alter the balance. The prophecy is wayyyy older than him and Sidious. Go watch the Mortis Arc, go watch how Maul and Ezra combined sith and jedi holocrons and learned about the chosen one prophecy, about the twin suns. NO ONE created Anakin. There's also a legends comic that shows how ancient people worshipped Vader as their "god". No one called these weird children "the chosen one" in Acolyte because they're different.
@@yowaimomo7359 You keep arguing a point I am not making. I am not saying Plageius created Anakin. I am saying the Force created Anakin as a result of Plageius manipulating the Force. The fact that these random witches can pull off an ability not even the strongest Siths in the universe could pull off is unbelievably bad writing.
@@MovieTalkNow "He had to know if the Force had struck back again, nine years earlier, by conceiving a human being to restore balance to the galaxy." no more words are needed. The witch said she created them. But Anakin is directly created by the force, no one created him.
@@MovieTalkNow I refuse to watch that show but I agree. I just can't stand seeing people who say "Anakin is no longer the chosen one bc... " A lot of people don't understand the difference. Sorry for missing your point🙏🏻
Not even Palpatine was strong enough to create life. So the idea these random witches can manipulate the force to having it conceive a child is a wild notion
I agree Disney star wars sucks, but this logic makes no sense. Because 3 people out of billions of human (not counting other species in star wars) makes it "rare but widespread phenomenon" 3 out of billions is absolutely unique, then add species like Kel Dors, Nautolans, or whatever the fuck Yoda is makes it extremely unique. Again Disney star wars is bull shit, so I'm not defending this dumb ass move in the Acolyte
Anakin being the chosen one was never confirmed by anybody. They even second guessed it on screen. And if you want to get technical about it Luke was the one who brought balance to the force not anakin.. also how does the existence of these 2 cheapen Anakin when they were born hundreds of years before him and it's possible Qui-Gon didn't even know about it. You also need to remember that he wasn't a traditional Jedi
@@MovieTalkNow who cares it still doesn't negate anything that we've seen previously. I don't get why you people call yourself fans and then make yourself sick dissecting every little thing just watch it and enjoy or shut up
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Can we all just please ignore Disney Star Wars?
Does that mean you’re not seeing the Rey spinoff first day in theaters?
@@MovieTalkNowyes
@@MovieTalkNowRey doesn’t count as Starwars
@@MovieTalkNow definitely not, especially the way their story writing has been the past couple of years
Im not a prequel fan but this disney shit is stupid.yes we can ignore it.if we all pay no mind then the disney stuff will not count as star wars
Bro, they officially killed it in Rise of Skywalker
How? May and her sister arnt daughters of clones
I am a true star wars fan for 10 years since i was a child, i got many close memories with it and its so heartbreaking for me to see star wars ruining.
Just do what I do, anything Disney makes isn’t cannon. Pause. It’s beautiful isn’t it…
@@Gamemaster15568 Very well said👍👍👍
Yes, Disney sucks
Lets just all agree disney star wars isn't canon? Good? Good.
Anderson Skywanker
chosen one gone, carry on.
It was already ruined when it was revealed the emperor survived. Disney has been killing Star Wars for years a slow and painful death.
"And somehow Palpatine returned" 😂😂😂
The emperor survived in the EU (Legends) a long time ago. The same consciousness transference was used in those books. Disney just used an already established maguffin. Be a gen-X SW fan and you’ll see how many times canon got revised. Disney didn’t do anything they want already done before.
Acolyte is not Starwars, that is not apart of the Starwars universe at all. It’s trashed
I don’t even count anything after the clone wars to be cannon
Rebels was fine
Nah this definitely takes the piss out of it.
Everything from Phantom Menace through mando… that’s it. Everything else: not canon
The difference is that wiches actively used the force for their magic tomforge the birth. Anakin was just created by the force (or have fan theories that Plagueis is his father been canonically be confirmed ?)
Bro is space jesus
Basically. And Deadpool is Marvel Jesus. Just accept it!
If anakin not the chosen one then who is he?
@@tmark.15 at this point, an angsty guy who's good at using the force. Chosen One prophecy is long gone because of this nonsense...
@@jorgegfigueroa9755 everybody said him he's the chosen one he had the highest midichlorian count ,so he can become the strongest force user he hasn't got father like the chosen one . And he killed the emperor so he brought balance to the force like the chosen one,so he is the chosen one ,this is a good or bad thing this is the true accept is
At this point, a just take anything that Disney produces as non cannon
It’s wild people are still watching Star Wars after seeing how horrible bubba and obi was. I stick to fan films they smoke Disney
I watch it so you guys don’t have to
legends is the real canon
My guess its blood magic like the night sisters they harnessed like the ascension ritual a soul split into 2 to become new powerful warriors for the clan. That or clones invitro its star wars they are still very advanced for a tribe of alien witches
They haven't ruined it, they actually followed the rule. It is a phenomenon. They literally just explained the lore and set in stone dismissing other theories behind his birth. The Vergence in the Force was an extremely rare event which we know though Palpatine was extremely powerful he couldn't have created Anakin without such an event as if he could it would have been repeated in the final 3 movies by Palpatine.
Disney just making sure they do everything to ruin anakins legacy
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yet they don’t realise they are the very monsters themselves. The fan base of Star Wars is strictly the majority or men and children even though it is a dark story It is child friendly and was written in a way that was so perfect that you couldn’t possibly hate it. It seems to me the more later in time we get the more easily offended. The generation becomes so much so that they feel that they need absolute power to back them up to get their point across when it is no one’s rights to force someone to listen to something they don’t want to listen to that is what freedom is, and that is how you felt with the skywalker saga up to return of the Jedi. It was a real story with realistic writing, something that people could escape to end. It never had a problem even with the female audience. so why is this a problem now that we need to make the strictly for women win the majority of the fan base is men and children . It seems to me we’ve got double standards and hypocrisy going on here. Anakin is was and will always be the chosen one of Star Wars.
Did we not listen to the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? He was so powerful he could manipulate midiclorians and create life. It’s spelled out in revenge of the Sith that this is a known dark side power.
Its a fair point but it was VERY ambiguous and we don’t even know to what extent. Could he bring back life or actually create it? Palpatine who basically became the dark side incarnate wasn’t able to come close to replicating that ability so as of right now we will never know
The dark plagueis books are considered a legend now. But yes he could create life. I don't think this takes away from the "Chosen one prophecy" because while the twins in aycolte where born with the force. The mother manipulated it to do so. Anakin's birth was because of the force itself and no one else is involvement.
@@alexworoniecki7231 ya. I’m taking it from the Rots quote more than any of the eu sources as a literal “create life” and save some from death (force healing) now both abilities canon to Disney Star Wars
Force healing is also Disney Star Wars. Also completely breaks the canon. Idgaf who bought it, but I also adhere to the fruit of the poison tree: 90% of all new Star Wars is BS.
@@MrAwesome874 force healing is from legends. Tales of the Jedi also have Bariss implied using it. Which is also from the legend comics she was in. Don't get me wrong I dislike the sequel trilogy because it had bad writing. But alot of the things people have issues from is just stuff they are recycling from legends.
I didn't watch the show but is this true?! Like WHY?!? That's the whole point of his birth.
I don’t really care. When it comes to any fictional media if I dislike a plot point I can just pretend it didn’t happen. Writers retcon old stuff all the time I’ll just ignore new stuff I dislike and enjoy the stuff I do
Its not even close to the same acolytes twins were a result of witchcraft and dark magic type shit anakin was from the force 😂like damn so many starvwars “fans” just wanna hate on anything new Star Wars is it a great show no its like 6.9 but atleast its new Star Wars content and its decent
It’s a manipulation of the force using magic. The force binds all life in Star Wars.
No one created Anakin, he’s the INCARNATION of the force. Also the Mortis arc is canon and literal Gods confirmed this fact. The prophecy is thousands of years old, Acolyte timeline is also aware it
The Force created Anakin as a response to Darth Plageius attempting to manipulate life with the force. The Acolyte is basically saying these random witches were able to do something not even Palpatine or his Master were able to succeed in. It’s awful
@@MovieTalkNow No, the force responded Plageuis' attempt to alter the balance. The prophecy is wayyyy older than him and Sidious. Go watch the Mortis Arc, go watch how Maul and Ezra combined sith and jedi holocrons and learned about the chosen one prophecy, about the twin suns. NO ONE created Anakin. There's also a legends comic that shows how ancient people worshipped Vader as their "god". No one called these weird children "the chosen one" in Acolyte because they're different.
@@yowaimomo7359 You keep arguing a point I am not making. I am not saying Plageius created Anakin. I am saying the Force created Anakin as a result of Plageius manipulating the Force. The fact that these random witches can pull off an ability not even the strongest Siths in the universe could pull off is unbelievably bad writing.
@@MovieTalkNow "He had to know if the Force had struck back again, nine years earlier, by conceiving a human being to restore balance to the galaxy." no more words are needed. The witch said she created them. But Anakin is directly created by the force, no one created him.
@@MovieTalkNow I refuse to watch that show but I agree. I just can't stand seeing people who say "Anakin is no longer the chosen one bc... " A lot of people don't understand the difference. Sorry for missing your point🙏🏻
#firelesleyheadland
i stopped giving it my undivided attention after episode 9. i still watch it cause it’s “ starwars” tho
Nope, It’s been dead since Disney bought it.
Disney is doing some messed up stuff to star wars. I can only imagine the stories we would have had if George Lucas still owned the franchise.
Bruh there is a different between witches and Siths Lords
Not even Palpatine was strong enough to create life. So the idea these random witches can manipulate the force to having it conceive a child is a wild notion
@@MovieTalkNow it was so powerful that they lost anakin you can tell they are not as powerful as
Star Wars is 6 movies only, no more no less
What about Rogue One and the Clone Wars animated movie?
@@NoahToledo-xo5pj not necessary
No you haven’t been watching the show and jumped the gun with the video
I get it one for the dark one for the light, and that is balance, but yes I really hope Elon short stacks Disney and gets Disney
It wouldnt have been so bad if the shownwas actually good.
Nerd United
I agree Disney star wars sucks, but this logic makes no sense. Because 3 people out of billions of human (not counting other species in star wars) makes it "rare but widespread phenomenon" 3 out of billions is absolutely unique, then add species like Kel Dors, Nautolans, or whatever the fuck Yoda is makes it extremely unique. Again Disney star wars is bull shit, so I'm not defending this dumb ass move in the Acolyte
make a Vader show AND NO DISNEY DONT YOU MAKE IT!
Disney ☕
This is not canon. No need to make a video about it. lol.
Luke is the chosen one
George Lucas disagrees with you
Anakin being the chosen one was never confirmed by anybody. They even second guessed it on screen. And if you want to get technical about it Luke was the one who brought balance to the force not anakin.. also how does the existence of these 2 cheapen Anakin when they were born hundreds of years before him and it's possible Qui-Gon didn't even know about it. You also need to remember that he wasn't a traditional Jedi
Dude it was LITERALLY confirmed by George Lucas
@@MovieTalkNow who cares it still doesn't negate anything that we've seen previously. I don't get why you people call yourself fans and then make yourself sick dissecting every little thing just watch it and enjoy or shut up
He's not Jesus for crying out loud.
The parallels are there:
-Prophesized
-Virgin birth
-Miraculous powers
-Chosen one/messiah
-Dual nature
He's obviously not literally Jesus, but the Christ-like parallels are obvious and intentional..
Nobody's saying he is? Just a comparison that has now been slaughtered by this new show.
No he's star wars Jesus.
No hes not Jesus. But both the prequels and original trilogy were all purposely made with biblical references and parralles.
Yah it was over when they did the prequels