Pat Metheny and Allan Holdsworth: More ALIKE Than You Think!

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • In this episode I show how Pat Metheny and Allan Holdsworth are more alike than you think. Pat Metheny (1954-Present) and Allan Holdsworth (1946-2017) are both incredible improvisers and writers. There playing seems to have little in common but their harmonic vocabularies are far more similar than most people realize.
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  • @stephen0793
    @stephen0793 5 років тому +196

    YES!! More Holdsworth and Pat Metheny content please!! I am a huge Holdsworth and Metheny fan, listened to everything Holdsworth has ever put out

    • @SpartanLaserCanon
      @SpartanLaserCanon 5 років тому +3

      Even that hard to find K2 album which is only on CD? There is some stuff from them on UA-cam.

    • @MrJsbach123
      @MrJsbach123 4 роки тому +2

      Awesome stuff! Love houldsworth and metheny!!

    • @johnnicholson8345
      @johnnicholson8345 3 роки тому

      two geniuses on their instruments for sure. Lucky to have seen Alan and continue to see Pat every time he comes around (which is Boston so it's every year).

    • @jacket9067
      @jacket9067 Рік тому

      Me too!

    • @joemansueto1414
      @joemansueto1414 6 місяців тому

      @@SpartanLaserCanon Yep…got it.

  • @LisaBellaDonnaMusic
    @LisaBellaDonnaMusic 2 роки тому +27

    Would love to witness a program here highlighting Allan’s tunes “Zarabeth” & “Tullio”.
    I feel those are really special pieces of music.
    Allan Holdsworth was a miracle in motion. ❤️

  • @Sooby007
    @Sooby007 5 років тому +76

    Man that harmonic major sure does set up the weather for some beautiful chords but also some menacing runs. Love it 👍🏼

  • @AntonioKowatsch
    @AntonioKowatsch 5 років тому +69

    Holy moly. The composition at the end was rather sublime.

  • @blackcatcentralmusic
    @blackcatcentralmusic 5 років тому +30

    Holdsworth did excellent work with other groups. Check out "Gazeuse" (Gong), "Bundles" (Soft Machine), and "Believe It" (Lifetime) among others.
    The Bruford album, "One of a Kind", is amazing.

    • @svenjansen2134
      @svenjansen2134 Рік тому

      Level 42

    • @MrBones105
      @MrBones105 11 місяців тому

      Bundles is so good! Definitely one of my favorite sides of Holdsworth

  • @geol1936
    @geol1936 5 років тому +39

    Yesssssss. I've been waiting for any discussion of Pat. Pat and Holdsworth are incredible improvisers.

  • @winstonsmith7652
    @winstonsmith7652 3 роки тому +3

    What a fcuking talent Rick Beato is. Wonderful composition. Beautiful stuff.

  • @CamiloVelandia
    @CamiloVelandia 5 років тому +84

    All I know is, I’ve transcribed many Metheny solos, and the most Holdsworth I’ve had the sanity to transcribe was probably one chorus. Love them both, but to me, it will be decades before we see another Holdsworth

    • @andrewkramer4021
      @andrewkramer4021 5 років тому +15

      There was Shawn Lane, he was kind of Holdsworth-like.

    • @CamiloVelandia
      @CamiloVelandia 5 років тому +1

      Royal S definitely!

    • @CamiloVelandia
      @CamiloVelandia 5 років тому +4

      Royal S dont get me wrong! Metheny has some killer chops! Just, for me, personally, holdsworth lines were always much more difficult

    • @aralsea1
      @aralsea1 5 років тому +6

      @@CamiloVelandia When you think of Metheny don't just consider his chops. Look at his composing too.

    • @CamiloVelandia
      @CamiloVelandia 5 років тому +2

      @@aralsea1 yeah. I love him as a composer. Was just posting the first thing that came to mind when comparing the two

  • @Eliguitar1
    @Eliguitar1 5 років тому +28

    It shows how technique is just a vehicle.
    Holdsworth was spanning 10 frets with his thumb on the back of the neck, lots of gain.
    Metheny with his thumb over the top.
    Totally different approach physically.
    But note wise a lot of shared vibes.

  • @maydance515
    @maydance515 2 роки тому +2

    I remember Pat highly appreciate Alln Holdsworth in his old PMG homepage. Anyway, both are my most favorite guitarists.

  • @JimhawthorneNet
    @JimhawthorneNet 5 років тому +63

    I love Allan Holdsworth, and that was a great comparison between the two players. I was lucky enough to have the privilege of opening for I.O.U. several times in the 80's with my band 'Drama'. His musical brain is other-worldly (as was your composition at the end of this video Rick).

    • @michaelcottle6270
      @michaelcottle6270 5 років тому +5

      Opening for Holdsworth, that must have been intimating. When I saw him, the support act was a solo set by his bassist so no guitarist to suffer the comparison...

    • @fernandoroza6061
      @fernandoroza6061 3 роки тому +1

      Light-years ahead...

    • @MrTarlecon
      @MrTarlecon 5 місяців тому

      @@michaelcottle6270 ...to suffer the comparison...🤣🤣🤣

  • @cemegonuts
    @cemegonuts 5 років тому +5

    Metheny and Holdsworth really set music free with their music. Hearing it is like nothing else. It's even better having someone like you around to pull back the curtain. I'm no musician, but this stuff interests me and expands my own curiosity and I thank you sir. VERY MUCH! Keep pulling back the curtain! :D

  • @LawrieFamily
    @LawrieFamily 5 років тому +4

    In college in the 80’s I discovered First Circle & Metal Fatigue. Pat & Allan have been my favorite guitarists ever since! Saw them both live many times. Thank you for your fascinating analysis likening them this way. You made my week!

  • @fivewattworld
    @fivewattworld 5 років тому +29

    Hypes! I saw UK on their first American tour in Rochester, winter of ‘79. I’ll bet you were in the room.

    • @Cris2Lin
      @Cris2Lin 5 років тому +3

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    • @fivewattworld
      @fivewattworld 5 років тому +3

      @@Cris2Lin Yeah Jon, Rick and I go way back. For the story watch my video on lessons. It tells the story of how Rick and I met and how it was for me to take individual lessons with Rick (if you can imagine that!)
      And my Beato Book is always up on my desktop and ipad. I don't imagine I'll need another reference.

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      @Cris2Lin 5 років тому

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  • @mason4490
    @mason4490 2 роки тому +7

    Yes, same chords from Metheny and Holdsworth- ones I never noticed. But while that's a similarity, how each of them employs those choirds- never the twain shall meet. They're both superb. But just physically alone, not many can make the left hand stretches that Allan used. He rocks, but it's harmony from Pluto. Metheny swings and while he uses dissonance, it's usually more subtle. That IOU record is the best example of Holdsworth, and I've never stopped listening to it since it came out. Metheny's gone into more different settings- but is always instantly identifable. Even with his huge body of work, I think Bright Size life may be his most groundbreaking, compositionally.

  • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
    @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE 5 років тому +80

    Would love to see a video on Lyle Mays! Severely underrated musician and integral part of the Pat Metheny Group sound and compositional style.

    • @jazzerson7087
      @jazzerson7087 5 років тому +6

      Amazing yup, love his 1986 solo album too. Plus that ponytail of about 20 years growth is a work of art too!

    • @stillphil
      @stillphil 5 років тому

      Pat and Lyle and like Duke and Strathorn.

    • @taopagan
      @taopagan 5 років тому +4

      Yes! “Alaskan Suite” from that Lyle Mays record is one of my all time favorites.

    • @jazzerson7087
      @jazzerson7087 5 років тому +2

      This Moment and We Are Alone from his Solo Improvisations for Expanded Piano album are superb! Big into Richie Beirach' s Continuum album at the moment. Check out his voicings on Round Midnight and Naima from an album he did with Dave Liebman!!! Smoking!!

    • @petertrotman7708
      @petertrotman7708 4 роки тому +1

      Beato's the Boss but check out Dr. Guy Shkolnik's channel for more in depth Lyle Mays/Metheny compositional breakdowns.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 5 років тому +15

    I knew that these two were easily musical geniuses and and legends in their own right, but this definitely gave me more appreciation for both! Both are influential to my playing! Great work my man!

  • @virgilchin5168
    @virgilchin5168 5 років тому +40

    Music at the end is just amazing. Feels like it opened up a new part of my soul that I haven't been to yet. Wow!
    This is just C Harmonic major modes?

    • @lamech006
      @lamech006 5 років тому +1

      virgil chin “the piece” is stunning

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 5 років тому +17

    The Mixolydian flat2 was just beautiful. I'd like to hear a longer composition in a similar vein.

    • @henrys.6864
      @henrys.6864 5 років тому +3

      That scale caught my ear too!

  • @whirleymetheney
    @whirleymetheney 5 років тому +83

    Pat Metheny is my dad's cousin

    • @Swanlord05
      @Swanlord05 Рік тому +6

      Mine too...I'm black!

    • @civilian8697
      @civilian8697 Рік тому +2

      ​@ShmoozdBeefenStein What 😭

    • @realtruenorth
      @realtruenorth Рік тому +3

      He is my cousin's baby mama's sister's dude. J/k lol

  • @brianaxel4589
    @brianaxel4589 3 роки тому +3

    I miss this version of Rick Beato! Hey Rick - it would be so great if you continued to compose music to exemplify the topic of your video. I'm not the only one who loves your music!

  • @TheDeuceofSpades
    @TheDeuceofSpades 5 років тому +37

    I feel like I don't need to eat after I listen to those chords. My appetite is satisfied.

  • @Ben_Crido
    @Ben_Crido 5 років тому +3

    We are 10 months in age apart Rick, and all the artists mentioned are all huge influencers in my musical journey. Like you I’ve been lucky enough to have seen Ponty, Allan and Pat perform on stage live and listen for countless hours to their recordings. I find it gratifying to have these hidden gems revealed and presented for us to understand at such a high level. I don’t get all of it, but that’s okay. I will love and appreciate it because it’s touched so much of my life in so many positive ways. Thanks for keeping it interesting and passing this along to the younger generation for their musical journeys.

  • @lucaschacon8362
    @lucaschacon8362 5 років тому +16

    I used to listen to Pat Metheny’s CDs in the car while traveling to visit my grandparents when I was a kid, his music is really special for me.
    Now how about analyzing Jeff Buckley’s Grace? 🎸
    Thanks Rick.

    • @josephmarshall6599
      @josephmarshall6599 5 років тому +4

      Rick touched on why he hasn't done a Jeff analysis in one of his videos. I believe he said he one problem is the video becomes flagged pretty much instantly and is taken down thanks to the powers that be behind Jeff's music. Jeff is one of Columbia's most prized artist's and his mother has ruled his estate with an iron fist ever since his death. So, it is no surprise the vids would be flagged so quickly....However, Rick did comment that he is planning to do an analysis of a song that is not on Grace (he did not say which album or song). But considering Grace is out of the picture that leaves only My Sweetheart The Drunk and a handful of live albums and bootlegs. Basically Rick can't post any material of Jeff's currently distributed by Columbia. So forget My Sweetheart The Drunk as well.
      Sooooo, I would guess Rick would analyze Jeff's approach to a cover tune off "Live at The Sin--e "-- there are plenty of cover tunes on the deluxe addition Rick could choose from that Columbia and Jeff's estate haven't any control over as long as he doesn't post Jeff's actual audio recording of whichever cover song it may be. Get what I'm saying?
      I'm with you though, I love Jeff Buckley and have explored every last corner of his music/output both official and bootlegged. I also love Tim Buckley ("Happy Sad" being a seminal record for sure). Anyhow, we shall keep our finger's crossed.

  • @JohmathanBSwift
    @JohmathanBSwift 5 років тому +4

    I got to see Pat Methany live a number of years ago, more end 80's beginning 90's, one night.
    The show was played in one of those old Lowe's theaters built in the 1920's .
    Saw Pat's name in lights and the show was for that night , so I asked for a best one ticket and I got the 2nd row.
    All I kept thinking while being amazed at his ability and stage presence was , wow , the choice notes . Such choice notes.
    Amazing piece yourself Rick .
    Glad you do You Tube.

  • @nickd8289
    @nickd8289 5 років тому +5

    I was listening to both of those albums back then all the time. Really love bright size life with pat and jaco. Great video. Thanks,Rick

  • @aharchives
    @aharchives 5 років тому +16

    Allan talks about this concept in his instructional video from 1992, with some beautiful examples from several scales. Allan usually referred to Slonimsky regarding music theory, but I'm not sure if these kinds of ideas came from Slonimsky, or where he picked it up. I don't think he ever used the term "harmonic major", though. In addition to jazz, Allan listened a lot to Debussy, Bartok and similar things, so he could have been inspired that way. Does anyone know what inspired Metheny in terms of these types of ideas?

    • @DenEz_TV
      @DenEz_TV 2 роки тому

      Wow, really interesting information! I need to check out Slonimsky at least. Thank you very much!

  • @kannonmcafee
    @kannonmcafee 5 років тому +20

    That BadCat DOES sound amazing. I noticed its great tone immediately.

  • @bilanggoboy
    @bilanggoboy 2 роки тому +2

    This is just one example of why your channel is the best thing on YT imo, sir! Thank you sooo much for this amazing lesson, and the magical composition you shared as well.

  • @bishalshankar9530
    @bishalshankar9530 11 місяців тому +1

    5:04
    Some of the most mysterious and beautiful chords ever
    Allan Holdsworth what a guy he was

  • @JCGErvin
    @JCGErvin 5 років тому +43

    Very, very cool. Where else would anyone find something like this? Thank you Rick!

    • @johnklatt6935
      @johnklatt6935 5 років тому +4

      In the BEATO BOOK man! Pay attention. :)

  • @chukachukachuka1
    @chukachukachuka1 3 роки тому +6

    What an incredible original composition at the end of this video ! The content on your channel is very inspiring , it would be great if you featured more of your own music as well !!! Cheers

  • @vecernicek2
    @vecernicek2 5 років тому +18

    Both have amazing harmonic imagination, for sure

  • @Gavilan0508
    @Gavilan0508 5 років тому +7

    That was awesome....Some very intellectual 20th century classical music theory superimposed on top of one of my Favorite jazz guitar players (PM) and then the piano composition that gives you a real feel for how all those scales and chords sound....Incredible. I've never seen anything like that.

  • @eduardoribeiro383
    @eduardoribeiro383 4 роки тому +8

    Rick, I hope you still read comments on "older" posts like this one. I love the channel, but I miss more jazz. Particularly in the "what makes this song great" sections. Is there any chance we will hear more jazz there. And if you really want to take people off the "comfort zone" may I suggest Suite for Flaute and Jazz Piano (Bolling & Rampal). I ask myself why its so hard to hear Classical/Jazz fusion these days. Thank you in advance and I absolutely love the channel. From Bach to Punk :-)

    • @heidiheidiho6412
      @heidiheidiho6412 4 роки тому

      Chris Potter seems to be going in that direction, at least to my ears. Check out Imaginary Cities.

  • @paulrelvas2206
    @paulrelvas2206 5 років тому +8

    Sounds like Holdsworth has more angular resolutions in his chord progressions vs Metheny’s more “In” and pretty resolutions in his compositions

    • @alansmith9635
      @alansmith9635 5 років тому +1

      Agreed. The differences are as great as the similarities. There's a very strong British jazz and prog rock influence in some of Allan's writing. I think of Kenny Wheeler when I hear Allan's '0274' , whereas Pat's obvious country and 'Laurel Canyon' influences are never far from the surface in most of his group repertoire.

  • @teelurizzo8542
    @teelurizzo8542 5 років тому

    Freakin' a Rick! Two of the most incredible, original Jazz guitarists of all time, and definitely two of my favorite. Thanks for this great video!

  • @tonyrapa-tonyrapa
    @tonyrapa-tonyrapa 5 років тому +2

    2 great guitarists plus one great teacher = one great video.

  • @aeksinsang932
    @aeksinsang932 5 років тому +6

    Saint Allan. He was so down to earth. Sat and had ale with him BEFORE his show- he still played brilliantly. What a virtuoso. What great memories 😀

    • @michaelpark5681
      @michaelpark5681 5 років тому

      Ah, another unprovable claim on youtube.

    • @aeksinsang932
      @aeksinsang932 5 років тому +2

      Michael Park he was well known by many fans as common knowledge to have ale and chat with guests before the show- why the trolling stupid negativity instead of celebrating his genius, kiddo? 👶 🍼 I sat with him in Cleveland in 2005. When you were still in mama, daddy’s balls or diapers.get a life

    • @michaelpark5681
      @michaelpark5681 5 років тому

      @@aeksinsang932 That may be so but your statement that you personally sat down with him for an ale before a show cannot be proven. But that's ok. It's not the first unprovable claim I've read on youtube. However, the fact that you reacted as you did to my comment is quite telling about the veracity of your original post. Lol get wrecked.

    • @aeksinsang932
      @aeksinsang932 5 років тому +4

      Michael Park why are you trolling up this page? Why would you need proof in a youtube comment section lol 😆 no one owes you anything but a bitch slap. Get a life and celebrate Allan- seeing as you’re not getting laid anyway

    • @michaelpark5681
      @michaelpark5681 5 років тому

      @@aeksinsang932 Look how triggered you are. If you had had indeed sat down with Allan you would have just shrugged your shoulders and moved on because me casting doubt on your story would have had no effect on your memory. I am more certain than ever that you've never met him let alone sit down with him. He would never waste a second of his life with such a worthless little ant.

  • @hawkhead418
    @hawkhead418 3 роки тому +2

    Those compositions using the harmonic major modes is extraordinary! Gods bless your wonderful talents! 🙏🏽

  • @RonHallKungFuBro
    @RonHallKungFuBro 5 років тому +1

    As a listener who wishes he played, these two titans have done more to change my perception of how a guitar should sound more than any other guitarist. They both have a lyrical kaleidoscopic quality that not only engages my ears but also my mind and spirit. I luckily got to meet and talk with Allan a few months before he died, he was cool, humble and natural. As for Pat, I've been a fan for 35 years, and he's better now than he has ever been. Legends.

  • @jwcorcoran9838
    @jwcorcoran9838 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this lesson! I took the chord at 3:33 and wrote a riff based off it - thanks for the inspiration Rick!

  • @garywordsworth9302
    @garywordsworth9302 5 років тому +4

    Rick you should check out Ollie Halsall . He taught the young Alan Holdsworth a hell of a lot when they were both doing session work.
    Ollie is by far the best guitarist no one has ever heard of and his Legato was second to none. His session work and also his band "Pato"
    are scarily good. Quite sad that all he is really known for these days is playing the lead guitar, bass parts and vocals that Eric Idle mimes to in "The Rutles" and his brief on screen appearance as Leppo the missing fifth Rutle.
    Alan referred to Ollie as the best guitarist he ever heard. High praise indeed.
    Well worth looking into the Late great Mr Halsall .

    • @martinhayes6845
      @martinhayes6845 5 років тому +1

      Absolutely, he was amazing, only known to people via his playing with Kevin Ayers , Patti and others.

    • @garywordsworth9302
      @garywordsworth9302 5 років тому +1

      @@martinhayes6845 If you can check out his brief work with Tempest and John Cale too What a talent !
      Always a pleasure to see another Ollie fan

    • @Daionzrip
      @Daionzrip 4 роки тому

      Money Bag alone from the first Patto album is enough to put Halsall right near the top of heap as jazz guitar improviser. Very few solos of that length and intensity are as memorable. I don't subscribe to the notion that there is a greatest guitarist or that artists should be measured w/ one kind of yardstick, but i don't think Halsey, the Patto drummer was too far off in an interview when he said, "He may not have been the best guitarist in the world, but he was certainly among the top two".

  • @toddwalkerdrumstudio
    @toddwalkerdrumstudio 5 років тому +5

    Just last wk. I was just working with one of my students transcribing (Steve Smith's) playing from "Jean Luc Ponty- Enigmatic Ocean" transcribing (Steve Smith's) drumming , as well.....Great stuff as always Rick!

  • @MrBlockHead
    @MrBlockHead 5 років тому +40

    The auto captions said “hi i’m Rick Biatch” Lol!

    • @indrajithak47
      @indrajithak47 4 роки тому +1

      I had to see for myself 😂 and it says 'Rich'

  • @marcscordato4385
    @marcscordato4385 5 років тому +5

    2 superb guitarists Pat is the wealthiest guitarist on the planet earth ( estimated net worth of 245 million ) Allan was broke selling off his equipment to make ends meet . Allan is the master of the synth Axe Pat the ultimate Jazz guitarist both are superb . In music some get rich others go broke the same is true of classical( Bach was Poor , Handel was well off ) composers but there wealth or lack there of is not a reflection of there talent .

    • @SolarMumuns
      @SolarMumuns 3 роки тому

      I'd be very surprised if pat was worth anywhere near that. I'd bet that there are rockers like Clapton that are worth more

    • @marcscordato4385
      @marcscordato4385 3 роки тому +1

      @@SolarMumuns
      True Eric is worth 450 million but Pat is among the richest believe it or not Keith jarret is worth 200 million most top jazz player like Chick Corea are worth about 3 million that’s big money for jazz Pat and Keith are both savvy investors. Singers make a a lot of money but as pure guitarists go Pat is worth much more then big time rockers like Jimmy page

    • @maxcuthbert100
      @maxcuthbert100 3 роки тому

      @@marcscordato4385 Less paternity suits ?

  • @jperryfan
    @jperryfan 5 років тому +2

    I saw UK at the Palladium in NYC when the 1st album came out. I was still 17 and just learning Zep, Sabbath, and getting into Zappa Yes and other "Prog Bands" Alan was so far ahead I had no clue how he did what he did. But I liked it and still do. Thanks Rick

  • @atroeds
    @atroeds 5 років тому +8

    "Hey, Dylan come here! Could you just play this little piece I wrote on piano real quick?"

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  5 років тому +5

      Bwhhhhaaaahahhaha!

  • @tamikat4745
    @tamikat4745 2 роки тому

    Thankfully, saw Allan Holdsworth play live once.
    Was some years ago, at a venue called Windows on the Cumberland, in Nashville TN.
    Stood probably ten feet from him and just watched...with my jaw on the floor.
    Never saw Pat Metheny live, but i can hear what you are saying about both, Rick.

  • @Wyrdo999
    @Wyrdo999 3 роки тому

    My best friend Bruce Soer and drummer in my band, got me into all these fusion guys at 15. bands like band x, weather report spyro gyra, prog rock like gentle giant, etc. He sadly overdosed in his 40's. It took me till age 28, to get into Jazz. It was Larry Carltons playing and guitar player interviews that got me into Jazz though. I was heading to Jazz anyways. I always loved improvising, and learned to play by improvising to records. Great video, such a thorough presentation. I Love the MODE piece also.

  • @daegabmusic59
    @daegabmusic59 5 років тому +4

    I don't know, maybe it's (also) because we're same generation: I find all of your videos interesting and worth watching... but videos like this one in particular (though perhaps not of the most popular kind) are definitely of my very favourite kind!

  • @davidnelson7972
    @davidnelson7972 5 років тому +1

    You do really have a Harmonic Major Mug, and the interlude you played was superb.

  • @raysaade
    @raysaade 5 років тому +1

    Rick has a special place in heaven! Thanks for the awesome content man

  • @TLMuse
    @TLMuse 5 років тому +2

    Wow, two of my favorite players (I was so sad when I learned Alan died, 2 years ago), and two of my favorite albums by them are mentioned (Watercolors, IOU). I so appreciate this analysis linking them; those connections eluded me. Melodic minor #4 is a lovely discovery for me; it has the melancholy of a minor mode, but with a hint of sweetness. I have the Beato Book (both versions!), and the fact that we're already learning about harmonic major by p. 18 says it all! -Tom

  • @markviereck4547
    @markviereck4547 5 років тому +10

    When talking to a lot of people about the greatest guitarists, I would bring up Holdsworth and they would say , who is he?? I first saw him with UK in Philly...he wS one of the greatest. When he died they had to raise money for his funeral. Just unbelievable

    • @drinkspecials
      @drinkspecials 5 років тому

      Thats a goddamn shame. With all he contributed music wise

    • @chuckyspell
      @chuckyspell 5 років тому

      That even happens with "famous" guys.

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 5 років тому

      The definitive artist he was, sometimes lived hand to mouth to create and bring that beauty to us. He didn't earn enough to save much it would seem. We are so lucky that the soul of Allan was put here for our enlightenment.

    • @marcscordato4385
      @marcscordato4385 5 років тому +2

      Mark Viereck
      Musicians loved him but he never reached the larger audience .

    • @billsybainbridge3362
      @billsybainbridge3362 5 років тому

      That's so sad to hear of his demise, and the shocking lack of financial support he raised. He like many of the greats up to now have had to struggle within a very unfair business model. This needs to change for the benefit of mankind, and future generations of talent.

  • @eroche12
    @eroche12 3 роки тому

    You introduced me to Holdsworth with the lick like a rocket. And I started listening to Holdsworth and being Pat Metheny fan for 40 years made me say: "hey they are alike". Searched on google and wanted to comment on the latest video about Holdsworth. Et voila. This video:-)......Made my saturday with coffee and headset so much awesome. Thanks for expanding my music love. ( i know thisis less interesting to know 2 years after your video :-) ). But a heartful thanks anyway

  • @seanodonnell2508
    @seanodonnell2508 5 років тому +3

    That's just bad ass!!!!!
    I love the expression of the modes!!!
    Got to get that Beato book!!!!

  • @saltspringdesign
    @saltspringdesign 5 років тому +1

    impressive Rick. This is an example of why you are becoming a youtube star and deserve the attention you are getting, You are a great teacher and beyond that an amazing musician. thx again :)

  • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
    @Thiago_Alves_Souza 5 років тому +8

    Two of my greatest influences when it comes to Jazz/Fusion.

  • @greatmusic382
    @greatmusic382 3 роки тому

    Rick, fabulous video, watched at least maybe 25 times, for Holdsworth, and for Metheny, and for Beato, and that PIANO! Superawesomeness (16 letter word) ! Thank you Professor, sincerely, RandyE

  • @Olmors
    @Olmors 5 років тому

    I don't understand why this video don't get views, it is a great video. Well done!

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 5 років тому +2

    The first UK album is very special. I bought it because i read a magazine interview with Eddie Van Halen, he said that the Guitarist in UK was the best guitar player he's ever heard, and that he couldn't figure out what he was doing... I immediately went and bought the record, and was amazed!! One of my favorites. Thanks Rick...

  • @Truthinshredding1
    @Truthinshredding1 5 років тому +4

    incredible piano bro, love this to be played on guitar too.

    • @oddfellowfloyd
      @oddfellowfloyd 5 років тому +1

      YES! A piece (or few!) like this on guitar would really be amazing, and put it into context, to apply it to our guitars. :)

  • @markdrum2392
    @markdrum2392 5 років тому +6

    UK was great! It's great to hear them again. Had a bear of a time finding that LP! How about a stream devoted to Richard Thompson?

    • @michaelcottle6270
      @michaelcottle6270 5 років тому +1

      +1 for RT, he's a whole different world. I'd love to hear Rick break down what he does...

  • @gitaaa7740
    @gitaaa7740 5 років тому +1

    Rick thanks for confirming those opening chords for Nevermore. Other guitar players would ask me what I was playing. I always thought it was an inverted major 7 chord with “A” in the bass

    • @MrThesupergreg
      @MrThesupergreg 5 років тому +1

      Unless I'm hearing it wrong (and when has a UA-cam commenter ever been wrong?), that voicing is the second inversion of a Drop 2 major 7 chord with an A underneath.

  • @VladimirPedrosa78
    @VladimirPedrosa78 5 років тому +11

    Andy Summers uses 9s a lot too.

  • @streetratmusic
    @streetratmusic 3 роки тому

    I started watching Rick Beato for the grunge and alt rock content and stayed for the jazz guitar content. Rick, you are an absolute legend!

  • @LarryCorban
    @LarryCorban 5 років тому +3

    That piece is fantastic! You're writing the classical music that I want to hear from Aydin.

  • @wladekwloszcz3803
    @wladekwloszcz3803 4 роки тому

    i was with Pat, as his crew interpreter, on his first-ever tour of Poland, back in 1985 !

  • @8028rsj
    @8028rsj 5 років тому

    Some beautiful chords. I heard of Metheny before but not Holdsworth and never heard their music. You have a way of making anything interesting to even basic musicians like me. Inspirational !

  • @johnjanoski3988
    @johnjanoski3988 5 років тому +1

    2 of my all time favorites analyzed by 1 of my new favorites,. That composition at the end was interesting and lots to think about. Good listening!

  • @BillDutton
    @BillDutton 5 років тому +3

    Sitting here gobsmacked without words...so...good.

  • @skullsaber
    @skullsaber 5 років тому

    I finally bought the Beato Book after watching your channel for a year. I enjoy the new level of interactivity that I know have with the videos...when you say what page to go to, I can actually go there and then do some homework before proceeding in the video. Thank you for everything you do! You are in immense help and an inspiration! Nice new fat frets on that SG, it sounds very articulate.

  • @karilamervo5343
    @karilamervo5343 2 роки тому

    Rick Beato, you are an amazing educator with dead-sharp ears. I love your output.

  • @Gregorypeckory
    @Gregorypeckory 2 роки тому +1

    Really great video, especially the amazing piece of music you wrote to demonstrate the modes; beautiful stuff!

  • @Ratguitar58
    @Ratguitar58 5 років тому

    Amazing piece you have there!
    Alan Holdsworth fan since enigmatic ocean. Saw UK in 1978 @ Santa Monica civic auditorium following Al DiMeola. ..... great show!

  • @yoavyenon
    @yoavyenon 5 років тому +1

    Thank you Rick. That's really some of the best stuff for me. I feel a few sequel videos are in order about the actual playing of both Pat and Allen, going through Pat's Jim Hall, Wes and Herbie Hancock influences and through Allen's various sax ( Coltrane) and keyboard influences. I feel that Pat brought a new approach to chromaticism on the guitar that is different than Allen's in both note choice and primarily time feel. But since they are both legato players, there are some commonalities between them in the linear contour of their playing. Rick your methodic no- nonsense approach to teaching is a source of inspiration. Going to practice now. Thanks

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  5 років тому +1

      Thank you Yoav! Hope you’re well my friend

  • @msmirk
    @msmirk 5 років тому +1

    I just have to say Bossa Nova... the modes you greatly demonstrate in this video are very familiar for who's used to listen to some brazilian music from the 60's and 70's. In a wide range of styles you can quote guys like João Gilberto, Tom Jobim, Egberto Gismonti. Pat and Lyle, by the way, tried a bit of bossa nova in the Offramp record. As an example of radical harmony applied to a song, listen to "Beijo Partido", by the guitarist Toninho Horta, as sung by Milton Nascimento.

  • @maggieo
    @maggieo 5 років тому

    Holy cow, Rick! I never put those two guitarists together and I've been following them for almost as long as you have. And to top it off, an original piece that Lyle Mays would be proud to play.

  • @debvalle7466
    @debvalle7466 5 років тому

    This is a “bookmark” video. Both players are tremendous and it’s cool seeing their musical connectivity. Liked how you brought it to your book, too.
    That aerial footage is great for escapism. And Enigmatic Ocean-wow; blast from the past!
    This one cleansed my soul!

  • @EaamonOShea
    @EaamonOShea 4 роки тому

    You're ears couldnt leave that one alone. Neat that you picked up on it. Good listening suggestions too.

  • @rallypojken
    @rallypojken 4 роки тому

    Wonderful playing.... Thanks for caring for us deadly♥️

  • @jerardross8999
    @jerardross8999 5 років тому

    Rick, that piece you wrote to illustrate the modes is stunning. There is a kernel of the sublime in there. Thank you

  • @ShaunaMarieSings
    @ShaunaMarieSings 5 років тому +1

    Another absolutely brilliant video, Rick...and I especially loved the beautiful music at the end...it's breathtakingly gorgeous!!!!! 💗💗💗

  • @FakeFlourescentSkies
    @FakeFlourescentSkies 5 років тому +1

    7:40 THE GOOD PART
    rick even put the name of the scale and its degrees for us on screen as well ty fam

  • @mekaalhasan6310
    @mekaalhasan6310 5 років тому

    Rick, the pieces you wrote are totally beautiful! What a pleasure to hear these exquisite musical gems.

  • @craigschroer696
    @craigschroer696 Рік тому

    Fascinating episode and beautiful composition Rick!

  • @jadeowenhamblyn4405
    @jadeowenhamblyn4405 5 років тому

    OK! wow Rick you sure have a soul connection to those modalities. Revisiting harmonic major for sure now.

  • @RileyMerlino
    @RileyMerlino 5 років тому +1

    Those chords remind me so much of Tosin Abasi’s playing from Animals As Leaders. I’m pretty sure he’s mentioned he was heavily influenced by Allan and Pat. Great work as always Rick!

  • @jkoff76
    @jkoff76 5 років тому +1

    Rick. I wish you would do a guitar study of Richard Thompson, the great folk rock guitarist. I've been a fan for years and can't think of a guitarist with a career that extensive who has so few study/analysis videos on the Internet. Richard has his own guitar tutor videos and some assorted fan make UA-cam videos of his songs while discussing his playing. But I don't think I've ever seen a professional really analyze his playing technique and what makes it so unique and special. You are an expert in these kinds of musical analysis videos. Anyway, I just thought it was a good idea for a future episode.

  • @youngchool
    @youngchool 5 років тому

    Thnx Rick for another amazing video. Allan had been my guitar hero no1 until 2017 (RIP). Followed by the greats such as Andy Latimer, Jan Akkerman, Michael Schenker, Gary Moore and of course Pat Methney. His UK debut album (no 1!) and Pat's Off ramp are among my favorite albums. Around the same time, I was blown away by AH solo in "Nostalgia" in Jean Luc Ponty album and the Gazeuse album (track called Expresso) by Gong. I haven't watched any video that can 'teach' Allan's music so far. I think I will watch this great video many times. Thanks!
    Ps) oh just realized Rick has made several Allan Holdsworth videos, I am thrilled, thank you so much Rick!

  • @gusmore26
    @gusmore26 Рік тому

    Awesome original Beato composition at the end of this video showing the sound of each of the Harmonic Major Scales' Modes ...dang 😃 Thank you Rick 🤗

  • @Shuzies
    @Shuzies 5 років тому

    Fantastic.....this is one of your best videos....the color tones....wow.......Thank you Rick..................ron

  • @Ramen4All
    @Ramen4All 5 років тому

    Thanks Rick for providing these videos. I started to get into music theory and composition when I was a high school, but life got it the way. Now in my fifties, I am getting back into it. I owe it to you!

  • @boblob2003
    @boblob2003 5 років тому +5

    Hmmm... a Metheny/Holdsworth acoustic album sure would have been something!

  • @chrisferrara190
    @chrisferrara190 5 років тому

    Absolutely amazing work Rick. My introduction to Holdsworth was the UK album. I have owned it on 8-track, album, cassette and CD twice. ...I am going to reply to my own comment for why CD twice!

    • @chrisferrara190
      @chrisferrara190 5 років тому

      In 2003, when me an the now ex wife were flying out to Kansas City from Boston to look at houses, I had a disk I had burned of pictures of us on our honeymoon(if you know what I mean).
      I decided because since we both had children and her mom was watching them at our house, not to leave that disk home for them to find. So I put it in my CD case with audio disks I would listen to.
      Wouldn't you know, I left my CD case in the back of the seat on the plane. Well, I had to replace that UK CD right away. ...and after several weeks of calling Delta, the CD case with the naked pictures was never found. ....oops!

  • @GrandMaster-Broda
    @GrandMaster-Broda 5 років тому

    Those Am7-11-9 chord voicings are priceless, thanks a lot rick!

  • @alandalaku719
    @alandalaku719 3 роки тому

    You DO have some very valid points. I've seen Metheny four times and Holdsworth once. There definitely are similar chords but I've never seen ANYONE phrase chords like Holdsworth, the way he arranges the notes. Holdsworth studied really meticulously the book "Nicholas Slonimsky's Thesaurus Of Scales And Melodic Patterns." I have that book as well and it definitely makes you rethink music big time. It will turn you into a musical JEDI. Well, one thing both have VERY much in common, NOBODY can do what they do. They are two of my all-time favorite guitarists.

  • @Unibabble
    @Unibabble 5 років тому

    Good lord! I loved this video for so many reasons - I think I need to study it at the piano to take it all in! Great explanations, and that piece was so interesting. RIck, you have some real serious multi-instrumental chops my friend...

  • @lifelongfan07
    @lifelongfan07 5 років тому

    Beautiful playing Mr Beato. Unbelievable how you used all of those modes and made them sound great!