hola el problema puede ser el cable azul, ese cable va al CDI trasero, que el pulso a la bobina de encendido del piston trasero. por lo tanto el cable azul es un pulso negativo y el cable negro/blanco es el positivo que va a la bomba. entonces la solucion seria poner a tierra el cable azul del relay y dejar el relay como proteccion de la bomba.
It is an anti tip relay the relay has to be in its respective factory spot and can not be tipped one way or another or it will cut the pump out. If you had it hanging off the side and it was signally a tip you will have a no start issue. They do fail and will cause cut out issues as you have. You can test this by hooking up the good relay and move/tip it and the bike should cut off.
@@kg8417 I have a 2001 shadow spirit 750 Ive been having problems fouling plugs it'll only run on one cylinder and occasionally it'll run fine then die on me do you think it could be the anti tip relay
If you ride an old gravity fed bike, the same thing happens if you dump it over, gas will pour out everywhere. Not a big deal. People have been riding "unsafe" bikes like that for decades.
Having the same issue with a Suzuki vs1400. Changed the relay tonight and did a carb strip down and clean. I was told a sticky float in the carbs can cause the fuel pump not to prime. That wasn’t the issue and the new relay didn’t work either. I’m tempted to change the starter solenoid next.
A sticky float will make the carburetor overflow and dump fuel out on the floor whenever the pump runs, since the needle won't be closing to stop the fuel flow when the carb bowl is full.
1 hot from starter button second wire is from the coil -trigger wire which turns on relay 3 wire is pump black/blue is pump hot line all you need is to go from black/white to the blue/black this guy doesn't know much
Dude I think your confusing that relay for the pump relay. The pump should have the relay built in. That relay is probably for brake lights. There's three to four wires depending on the pump. I would be afraid to overpressurize the carb and push fuel straight through it but if the carbs have a fuel regulation setup that does away with floats then it's probably beefy enough to handle it.
Hello! hey, interesting video! I am struggling with my VT700 1986, it has a difference with 85... the fuel pump has a builtin relay. Now pumps comes only with 2 wires and no relay built in, any idea how to solve it? the 86 model have 3 wires directly to the original pump, 12+, ground and ignition pulse signal. I tried to adapt a VLX 600 relay between my 2 wire fuel pump and my 3 wire harness side... but no luck, the relay burnt :-p
If you put a constant current on your fuel pump, wouldn't the carb overflow? or would the floater close the bowl, just like the gravity fed versions. My instinct says it's wrong to let the pump work constantly. I have the shadow 800, and im having the same problem. is your bike still working like this? 2nd question: what determines when the fuel pump should shut down? A kind of fuel level sensor in the carb?
I'm trying to start an 84 vf 500f and the fuel relay needs to be primed unfortunately there is nowhere on the net to find out which pins.. but this vid has given me a second option if i cant find anything.
@@motardsquid yes and it's plays up if let it sit for too long say more than 30 days, on mine I have to short the fuel relay quickly to start it back up again, Than it's fine. Just did it today and I'm running again. I used this video as sort of a guide on how to short..
Why dont u make a togle switch for the pump ? Also im having the exact same problem on a 07 suzuki m50 iv gone trugh 3 relays and it wont turn the pump on my last resort will be to hot wire the pump but with a switch but idk if the pump supposed to be runing all the time ? I would hate to ruin it because it cost me 500 bucks
I'm having the same problem with Hyosung bike currently...I guess the relay isn't getting ground for it's coil to energise or the ecm might be giving problem...In my case the ecm gives 12v supply to relay coil but the outgoing ground isn't proper... However I tested my relay and it's ok..Did you solve the issue permanently? if so can you tell me how ?
You have 3-wires to the relay..?...It needs 2 to energize the relay...The 3rd one would be positive to the fuel pump.There is no "safety" overide in my opinion.What youve done is fine..The ignition switch may fail over time.Recommend a headlight switch or learn more about relay`s and a dvm.Check the relay source connections and find the fuse for it..... Oh no..More time...Its a bitch when you want to ride..!..Cheers
I received Your message about having a spare relay for my 86 honda shadow vt1100.Could You send the relay to me to Ontario,canada?Give me Your email to set up an etransfer.
hola el problema puede ser el cable azul, ese cable va al CDI trasero, que el pulso a la bobina de encendido del piston trasero. por lo tanto el cable azul es un pulso negativo y el cable negro/blanco es el positivo que va a la bomba. entonces la solucion seria poner a tierra el cable azul del relay y dejar el relay como proteccion de la bomba.
It is an anti tip relay the relay has to be in its respective factory spot and can not be tipped one way or another or it will cut the pump out. If you had it hanging off the side and it was signally a tip you will have a no start issue. They do fail and will cause cut out issues as you have. You can test this by hooking up the good relay and move/tip it and the bike should cut off.
They way you have it bypassed will only end up burning up the fuel pump
@@kg8417 I have a 2001 shadow spirit 750 Ive been having problems fouling plugs it'll only run on one cylinder and occasionally it'll run fine then die on me do you think it could be the anti tip relay
If you ride an old gravity fed bike, the same thing happens if you dump it over, gas will pour out everywhere. Not a big deal. People have been riding "unsafe" bikes like that for decades.
Why are so many relays bad bypassing has to be the way. He went to bypass it now can't wait to hear it and see it out of the basement after 3 yrs
Having the same issue with a Suzuki vs1400. Changed the relay tonight and did a carb strip down and clean. I was told a sticky float in the carbs can cause the fuel pump not to prime. That wasn’t the issue and the new relay didn’t work either. I’m tempted to change the starter solenoid next.
Update on this, it was the fuel pump relay.
A sticky float will make the carburetor overflow and dump fuel out on the floor whenever the pump runs, since the needle won't be closing to stop the fuel flow when the carb bowl is full.
Honda 3 wire fuel pumps utilize a signal from the ignition stator, if the pump dosen't get the signal, it wont run. Stator issues happen.
1 hot from starter button second wire is from the coil -trigger wire which turns on relay 3 wire is pump black/blue is pump hot line all you need is to go from black/white to the blue/black this guy doesn't know much
Exactly!
Dude I think your confusing that relay for the pump relay. The pump should have the relay built in. That relay is probably for brake lights. There's three to four wires depending on the pump. I would be afraid to overpressurize the carb and push fuel straight through it but if the carbs have a fuel regulation setup that does away with floats then it's probably beefy enough to handle it.
Your relay isnt making contact inside the conecter, but your umper wires are eaching thecontacts.
the con ection is the power that goes to the fuel pump its hard to find but wen you hook it all up and the realy it will work good luck
Hello! hey, interesting video! I am struggling with my VT700 1986, it has a difference with 85... the fuel pump has a builtin relay. Now pumps comes only with 2 wires and no relay built in, any idea how to solve it? the 86 model have 3 wires directly to the original pump, 12+, ground and ignition pulse signal. I tried to adapt a VLX 600 relay between my 2 wire fuel pump and my 3 wire harness side... but no luck, the relay burnt :-p
My bike does the same thing you can be riding it down the street and it always acts like it's running out of gas. Any ideas?
If you put a constant current on your fuel pump, wouldn't the carb overflow? or would the floater close the bowl, just like the gravity fed versions. My instinct says it's wrong to let the pump work constantly.
I have the shadow 800, and im having the same problem. is your bike still working like this?
2nd question: what determines when the fuel pump should shut down? A kind of fuel level sensor in the carb?
I'm trying to start an 84 vf 500f and the fuel relay needs to be primed unfortunately there is nowhere on the net to find out which pins.. but this vid has given me a second option if i cant find anything.
Very interesting. i got a vf500 im fixing up. But my vt500 does not have a fuel pump, does yours?
@@motardsquid yes and it's plays up if let it sit for too long say more than 30 days, on mine I have to short the fuel relay quickly to start it back up again, Than it's fine. Just did it today and I'm running again. I used this video as sort of a guide on how to short..
@@motardsquid I got an 85 vt500 and I dont see a pump
Why dont u make a togle switch for the pump ? Also im having the exact same problem on a 07 suzuki m50 iv gone trugh 3 relays and it wont turn the pump on my last resort will be to hot wire the pump but with a switch but idk if the pump supposed to be runing all the time ? I would hate to ruin it because it cost me 500 bucks
So I'm having the same problem. I changed my pump but the same issue.
Stator
It's a honda shadow 800 could it be a fuel pump relay?
I'm having the same problem with Hyosung bike currently...I guess the relay isn't getting ground for it's coil to energise or the ecm might be giving problem...In my case the ecm gives 12v supply to relay coil but the outgoing ground isn't proper... However I tested my relay and it's ok..Did you solve the issue permanently? if so can you tell me how ?
Did you ever fix this besides bypassing it
Yeah, I've never heard the pump on mine do anything... at all.
I would add a tilt switch in my yamaha has one.
Question are there ignition points on a vt1100?
Hi I have 83' Shadow and original pump fail again after rebuilt. Can you please send me info about new pump that you used in your video. Thank you
I believe it's a holly fuel pump. I've had good luck with facet pumps as well.
Muchas gracias
It’ll likely stall out
Did you just ground it to the frame?
Yes i did
that connection goes to power for the pump to work there is a connection
put a killswitch
You have 3-wires to the relay..?...It needs 2 to energize the relay...The 3rd one would be
positive to the fuel pump.There is no "safety" overide in my opinion.What youve done is
fine..The ignition switch may fail over time.Recommend a headlight switch or learn more
about relay`s and a dvm.Check the relay source connections and find the fuse for it.....
Oh no..More time...Its a bitch when you want to ride..!..Cheers
What does headlight switch has to do with pump?
I received Your message about having a spare relay for my 86 honda shadow vt1100.Could You send the relay to me to Ontario,canada?Give me Your email to set up an etransfer.
Got your msg, ill search for it and send it to you.
@@motardsquid Thankyou.