Final Doom: The Plutonia Experiment - Nightmare! difficulty in
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Runner: Zero-Master
Date: 2015-06-07
IWAD: Plutonia.wad
Category: NM-Speed
Map: Movie 1-30
Sourceport (demo): Competition Doom v2.0.2.1
Sourceport (video): PrBoom-Plus
Time: 43:57
Map.. Time
01.... 01:05
02.... 01:59
03.... 02:05
04.... 02:09
05.... 01:55
06.... 02:32
07.... 00:56
08.... 01:11
09.... 01:29
10.... 01:24
11.... 01:19
12.... 00:33
13.... 01:59
14.... 01:01
15.... 00:54
16.... 00:47
17.... 00:19
18.... 00:35
19.... 00:38
20.... 02:19
21.... 00:49
22.... 02:26
23.... 02:34
24.... 01:49
25.... 01:28
26.... 01:23
27.... 01:31
28.... 02:08
29.... 01:32
30.... 01:08
"The Plutonia Experiment is one of the two official 32-level Doom II IWADs which make up Final Doom. It was created by brothers Dario and Milo Casali under contract with id Software, and was released alongside its counterpart TNT: Evilution in June 1996."
doomwiki.org/wi...
I can not believe the luck I got here, amazing.
It's now been 19 years since Final Doom was released, no one has ever attempted to do a single segment run of it on Nightmare difficulty before without using tools due to the difficulty. Over those 19 years there have been a lot of discoveries on how to sequence break the game. Some of the tricks used in this run are glides, rocket jumps, keygrabs, arch vile jumps and a lot of linedef skips. Without many of these tricks it would be impossible to achieve this.
On map 17 I do a trick called suicide exit, so this is the only (intentional) death of this of run. Even though it's possible to continue if you die during the run, the run itself is considered invalid (unless you exit the map).
The damage that I take is very random, so you need a lot of luck at times. For example revenants can do 80 (60) max damage with ranged (melee) attack, Baron\Hellknight 64 (80), Cacodemon 40 (60), Mancubus can do up to 64 damage per fireball where they shoot 2 at the same time, Demon\Spectre can do up to 40 (they attack very rapidly) while a chaingunner will tear you apart if you let them get too close with up to 15 damage per pellet. Minimum damage is usually around 1/8 of max damage.
In plutonia (on UV\NM difficulty) there are 704 chaingunners, 422 revenants, 123 cacodemons, 90 barons, 151 hell knights, 23 cyberdemons (most of them on map 31,32), 4 Masterminds, 315 shotgun guys, 86 zombiemen, 74 pain elementals, 140 mancubus, 94 arachnotrons, 99 arch viles and 436 imps. Obviously since I skip large sections of some maps and maps 31,32 are optional I don't actually run into all of them. Notably is that the majority of cyberdemons are on map 32.
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I think Plutonia is when I discovered that Chaingunners were actually the most dangerous monster in Doom II.
+Sarah Watt (NuclearSarah) That and Archviles they are just something that has ruined my day a few times.
Sarah Watt they really are
Pain Elementals especially playing with fast monsters can also be exceptionally irritating
Yeah. I think due to his weapon such as Spidermastermind
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Probably the best Doom video on the net, anyone who's played Plutonia will know how unreal this is
This is insane. I heard that not even the creators could beat Plutonia on Nightmare difficulty, so this is a massive achievement.
The creators didn't make this expansion pack.
Yeah the Casali bros did Plutonia. Best set of maps in the cannon (not including the master lvls)
My dog is a cat.
Solutionist ' je suis un producteur de fruits et légumes
well theyre programmers, that doesnt necessarily translate to being a good player
Beating this wad on Ultra-Violence is worthy of praise, but beating it on Nightmare...you deserve a shrine built in your honor!
MetalSmasherGaming Keep in mind: this dude SPEEDRUNNED it
But he didn’t get 100% on everything
You don't need 100% for speedrun. You just need to finish the game as fast as you can.
I wish i could speedrun, not just this game, but all..
@@jevil1371 Practice! There's a category for skill 1 to start with, or even no monster runs to work on movement.
24:58 was totally unexpected. I bow to you, Zero Master.
19:33
100% to 48% to 14% health
Crazy
This is absolutely insane. I'm having a hard time comprehending this. Imagining anyone sitting there thinking, "I should do a Nightmare SS of Plutonia!" and thinking it was a reasonable idea is crazy to the point of being hilarious :D
I barely managed to get through Doom and especially Doom 2 on Nightmare, even though stx-Vile gave me the blueprint. This was like stx-Vile on steroids. I finished Plutonia Experiment not too long ago on Ultra Violence, and that was a challenge. Bizarrely the chaingunners didn't give me as much trouble as I thought, I think because I watched a run from Dime and he voiced his hatred for them, so I had my eye out for them. The revenants though, good christ. Watching you dodge some of those missiles, I was actually cringing in my seat. I gave Nightmare a look after UV, but after struggling to finish the third level, I called it quits. Seeing you blast through this was wonderful to watch.
There were so many great moments in this run. You know it's going to be a great run when before every level, you ask yourself, "How the hell is he going to do this?" You're an extremely smart player, I liked when you would close doors behind you, like around 10:30. I love runs with great planning on display like that, paying attention to the small details. A lot of the tricks you used, glides, etc. really surprised me. The amount of work you must have put into this run is astounding. If your hands got shaky at any point, you're done. I'd be interested to know how many attempts it took to get this run. The sheer amount of RNG, I'm amazed you came out of this a sane person. I would have drowned my computer when you got denied so many times on MAP27.
This is now one of my new favorite runs ever. I plan to watch this a few more times. As well, I've given up speedrunning for a while now, I wasn't inspired enough to put the work in, but after watching this, I'd like to pick it back up again. Thank you for that. Thanks for this run, all the hard work you clearly put in, and for the great quality as well!
Spasmodic Gaming Thanks for the comment, and it was indeed a lot of work alone to just figure out how to do each section and not just practice\attempts. As an example, very few will understand just how complicated map 13 was unless you actually do doom speedruns which include guideless glides, because on map 13 it will look like I do two glides just like any other glide. However, the direction (when looking at the minimap) has a lot to say for how difficult the glide is, in this case I do a south directed glide followed by a north directed glide, and doing a north directed glide quickly was something that I figured out very recently after many hours of trying different approaches. There was a very good chance that I would struggle to get through and just outright die to the baron respawn, because that happened a lot when I practiced.
Map 27 is one of the easiest maps in the run, yet it was looking very likely that in the end it was that map that would kill this attempt. Revenants, especially on tombstone (map 23), are extremely random and dangerous, and luck will determine if you get through no matter how much time you put into practicing that map :)
I was actually starting to breathe faster when you were attempting the second glide, I was waiting on that baron to respawn.
***** You can run through the levels with no monsters to practice the fastest or most effective way to find weapons/ammo or reach the exit. But even than it takes a great deal of skill to actually do something this.
Spasmodic Gaming Nearly completed Doom 2 Brutal Doom 2.0 mod on Realistic mode pretty much everything kills you 1 shot. so hard. I'm at mission 29/30
+David Frigault Mandatory kills on no monster levels? Wow I had no idea! I guess that would apply to Doom 2 Map 7 with the manucbi and arachnotrons as you have to kill everything to exit the map. :P
Finally got around to finish watching this, absolutely insane. Some parts are shiver-inducing because you're so close to dying at any point. Exiting a map (I think it was "Speed") with 14% health, and then the next map starts you off in the middle of a giant circle of lost souls... one random, errant, barely preventable charge and you're dead...
I also realized just how genius id software were, even in their jokes. I think Nightmare! was originally added as a joke after a few players complained the game was too easy on UV. Lesser game designers would just have the enemies respawn and be done with it -- it's already enough of a "fuck you" to the player to be funny. But no, id went the extra mile and sped up the projectiles so that even a single chaingunner can tear you apart in an instance.
But then, without respawning, you could actually kill them off and have them stay dead, which would give players room to retreat and be sane -- not what id were going for with this crazy joke difficulty. In short, it has to be BOTH "respawn" AND "fast" in order for Nightmare! difficulty to be what it is. Separately, they would still be extremely challenging, but not to this degree.
And, of course, Plutonia was SO not meant to be possible on Nightmare, even on UV it's just so deviously designed. Damn.
I only recently learned that monsters will always attack when they see you on Nightmare as well. No walking around between attacks, just constant projectiles and bullets until you're dead or out of sight.
Plutonia was in Dario's and Milo's own words designed to give them a really hard time on Ultra Violence. If a map wasn't enough of a struggle to them, they'd revise it until it was.
Safe to say, they probably never thought beating Plutonia on Nightmare!, much less single segment, was at all possible.
@@btv4120 True, which upgrades regular old Shotgun Baldies from simply dangerous, to 'Oh no!' status, and makes regular Green Hairs actually kinda dangerous.
@@btv4120 They also have 0 reaction time, firing the moment they see you. This makes Cacodemon ambushes a lot more threatening than you'd think.
I remember when I used to speedrun for the Compet-N back like 10 years ago or more that half of Plutonia wasn't finished on Nightmare. This game has come so, so far. Congrats on taking it to the finish line.
Hey you used to be a good Doom youtuber. Where'd you disappear.
Dude 10:00 you are a freaking legend with that rocket launcher. Sick run, I can never imagine being this good. Won't stop me from playing a few maps after work though.
00;01 DUDE YOU ARE A FREAKING GOON WITH THE ROCKET LAUNCHER, HEALTHY RUN I CAN ALWAYS IMAGINE BEING SUCH A CHEAT- IT'LL GET ME TO PLAY TONS OF MAPS DURING WORK, 1LOVE
Jesus, what an insane ramp up in difficulty from Doom 2
The max intended difficulty for Plutonia is just UV, nobody was expected to ever play it on Nightmare, where monsters are faster and don't stay dead.
It's hard, but not normally *this* brutal.
Dude you have a habit of coming so nervewrackingly close to dying and you pick it right back up like it's fucking nothing. Legendary status
Un maestro en el Doom tome su like bro.
gta2025 madre mia willy que haces aqui compañero
Yo juego doon 2016 sald2
Dou
@Just a cacodemon with internet access Mr. Cacodemon, I have a question, the chain gun has 4 or 6 guns, when I see the chaingunners, I see that their chain gun has 4 guns, but I have observed that the chain gun that we acquired has 3 guns on top, so following the logic of cannon placement this should also have another 3 cannons down, 3 + 3 = 6 cannons, so how many cannons do you think it has? four or six?
@Just a cacodemon with internet access Thanks Mr. Cacodemon
This was emotional
ikr
Hyena I found you!
@@JackChehade what
God :)
doom logic: run diagonally to go faster
Basic vector math. If going 1 unit in both X and Y directions, then the vector sum is sqrt (1^2 + 1^2) which is sqrt(2) speed. So you're travelling 1.41 units per given time window instead of 1, so you are 41% faster.
Like in goldeneye or turok on n64
You can also go faster by scraping against certain walls
T1mm0s *slowly puts on glasses*
@@michaelmartin9022 Doomguy greases himself up just to do that.
even the enemies here are like, "he's doing what?.. nah he's not." **he runs by shooting** "oh shit dude he IS doing it" "should we go after him?" "nah, fuck that he just wrecked that fat guy with the built in friggin arm-guns, you'll have to send the corpse fire-skeleton guy over there" "we did that already dude, like 4 of them!.." "Oh.. well what about the creepy exploding eye guys, they'll deal with him" "dude he didn't even fight them he just ran into them and kept going" "dammit.. the invisible monster guys?" "dead" -_- "ok ok lets go find that secret room and just chill for a while, no one goes in there. Plus we have an armor, some health and ammo if we needed" "great idea!. Ok we're safe now right?" "totally dude, there's no possible chance that anyone would ever come in here. And I already told you we have armor, health and ammo in here for days. We're **head explodes**.." "Oh sh............."
19:33 you are out of your mind
+julian vm XD IKR? I swear that was a rocket jump!
That was some SPEED alright!
julian vm Holy hell!! Lol
This is exactly why Doom 2 is the best shooter, forever and ever, amen.
this is Final doom
garrett calhoun
I'm referring to Doom 2 as "any Doom with SSG, Revenants, Pain Eles, Mancubi and Archviles" :D
a 90s reference within a 90s reference.
Mad props bro
Exactly
@@Curratum i remember my first Arch-vile encounter. As a kid, I only remember playing Ultimate Doom with the original monsters. Fast forward a little bit to middle school, I finally got the other Dooms and remember saying "WHAT....is THIS...?" (Chance's voice from Homeward Bound)
*Plutonia Nightmare speedrun*
he's a madman! A MADMAAAAAN!!!
Awesome run Zero, congrats. Great to see people play this game at such a high level, i've always had a soft spot for Doom, it was such a big game when it first came out.
I love you. ♥ I've been looking for a Nightmare speed run of this for a long, long time! Either single player or co-op. It didn't matter. You've finally showed that it's actually possible!
wow, your heart must have been pounding at the end! congratulations!
Man, this is just rad, nuts awesome, I still can't believe it. Really well done, and congratulations! Hard work payed!
This is the most impressive gaming feat I've ever seen
Gamers: "What would a first-person shooter bullet hell game be like?"
TeamTNT: "Hold my beer."
teamtnt didn't even make plutonia
@@sweetypuss the Casali brothers were part of TeamTNT
@@meatycitadel But Team TNT has nothing to do with Plutonia. Plutonia was designed only by Casali and is a masterpiece in design. TNT maps will suck most of the time.
@@tecrubio i like TNT More then Plutonia.
Crazy run, can't imagine how good it must have felt to finally finish one. Grats man!
17:45 wow you know something bad is coming your way when they start playing happy music in a Doom game.
arch vile maze...
„Happy Music”
fuck that map bro lulw
this is hands down, the most impressive gaming feat I have ever seen.
We're supposed to research a book about the experience of human struggle, my class is doing the outsiders. But I think I found a better option..
every level took 50 minutes in UV for me and this man does the full wad in less than that
This game helped me get through the Divorce From Hell when it first came out. I'll never forget.
Best speedrun I've ever seen. Amazing.
you did my favourite franchise growing up proud man. Absolutely amazing gameplay and a pleasure to watch.
19:35 ...BRUH!
Laghy01 I just saw that. I closed my laptop and had to go stand outside for a minute before watching the rest of the video.
there is simply no way I could have ever even comprehended what he did.
what did you do for the music?
It sounds a bit distorted and I absolutely love it.
prboom-plus v2.5.1.4's default settings have the music sounding like this
I've seen some awesome shit in gaming history... but this.... well, I have no words for it.
THIS IS INCREDIBLE. By far the most amazing speed e run I have ever seen. This isn't the sort of run where people can just learn and get into a community, you've just done something so remarkable, I hope you feel fresh as hell.
20th time im watching this, still mindblowing. Random: 13:15 ah that sound
Dude, you're hardcore and got nerves of steel! I could never been able to do bar glides very well, nor have I made it past E1M3 of Ultimate Doom or map01 of Doom 2 on Nightmare, but I bet it took u like months to get the speedrun finished. How do u do all this, especially at the end of map12 with all those chaingunners out there from long distance at the area getting to the red key? I probably would've died out there if trying to do it on nightmare
19 years it took to accomplish !
5
xavi er loool
Classic Doom games was a part of my childhood, just like Quake, Duke nukem, Turok etc… Seeing this video makes me so nostalgic lol glad this series still relevant today. Srry bad english
14:16 that squeeze glide into Archvile jump play is unreal
This is amazing cause this game is hard as hell and you made it look so easy! nice job bro!!
24:57 The entire run condensed into one moment. Incredible.
Truly impressive. You deserve a free copy of the most insane Doom package id can put together, including the new release coming. My hat goes off to you, sir.
What is this sorcery?
You are the god of doom games. Big GG !!! And continue the speedrun.
This is just too much.
Easily one of the most impressive speedruns I've seen in my life.
this guy starts shooting enemies before he sees them...
On nightmare the enemies react and attack really fast, so if you dont prefire them they will shoot you first
Wall hack 😱
He uses Ultra Instinct
I was just kiding 😁
Even though Dario Casali said that it was impossible, Zero Master said 'Screw that.' and made a Nightmare! run. Unbelievable.
#doom #plutonia #experiment #valve #dario #casali #speedrun #nightmare
He never said impossible dumbass he said unlikely
Haven't even finished watching the video and you already earned my sub.
I was doing homework about malicious software and I finished here because I was studying about Ports and I discovered Port 666/tcp is for playing Doom over TCP!!!
How many years since I played this great game and I found this awesome video!!!
Thank you for showing us "Impossible is Nothing".
14:20 you sly devil
+ace subspace I bet he wished he skipped breakfast that morning
I watched this moment and straight, away i scroll down to see if anyone els saw it xD
Yes mate, specially 14:24 , superb.
Beautiful
Is The Plutonia Experiment Compatible with the Brutal Doom mod?
24:55 just WOW!
Olek54321 can you explain this?? Why didn’t he just die?
@@Zaba_the_Dogling his body touch the exit and that's why. I don't know how it works to be honest :D
I can never manage to fit through the tight gaps between pillars... haha. How do you do it?
I wouldn't recommend trying it unless you have plans to do speedruns, but anyways here a poor attempt at a guide I wrote some time ago: www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1414380
It's usually tricky to do, but on Doom 2's Map 16, Suburbs, it's possible to squeeze through between the locked bar blocking your exit, this is one of the easier spots to do it on in the original levels.
The whole run felt like "Oh fuck run for you life!"
This is SO satisfying to watch! you sure know your Doom, total pro! congrats!!
this is amazing dude, all the respect
Stellar performance, you gave me heart palpitations near the beginning of Anti-Christ, great run!
2:45 runs faster than the rocket he launched :D
10/10 Truly inspiring and a joy to watch. Had a grin on my face the entire time. Well fucking done!
Something else will have to be done. I look and rejoice. Thank you.
Finally! Someone uploading nice classic doom videos! I kinda got tired of so many mods
wow great play through, absolutely masochistic. XD using a rocket to kill a single zombie sgt. is total badassery.
Congratulations on this incredible run!
24:58 in, and bet it all on one shot.
WTF did this dude do!? amazing!!! 24:58!!!
@DiscordChaos WTF
@@panchoroldanz he launched his dead body to touch the exit, completing the level
Ace man watched you're doom 4 ultrA nightmare run probably the best doom player I've seen
You broke Hunted
I ain’t notice at first when he did that run back 3 times in the beginning before actually going in
OMG THATS INSANE! Congratulations!
At least now we know God exists, and His name is Zero-Master.
655321Axe *Chuck Norris is God
+Adrián Vitale but zero Master is Just behind him ;)
Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly are you doing at the start of Map 11 - Hunted by strafing across from that coffin?
This is the best I have ever seen anyone play DooM
Antichrist starting at 40:11 was so insanely hectic it gave me chills just watching it. It appears the monster wandering RNG was very much not in your favor, but you still managed to blaze through regardless.
Craziest part of a whole boatload of crazy-run!
Oh my God! you really kick god damned asses!
Holy cow!!! This edition made me sick of the difficulty... You are awesome dude.
It's kind of amazing that now that it's been 20 years since Doom was released that it's still the fastest FPS of all time.
yeah personaly im not a big fps fan but i think doom and the old duke games are great. hopefully doom 2016 returns to the good old days.
Dat rocket fail in the beginning:D Anyway, spectacular run, man, awesome skills!
I actually broke a sweat watching this
You made Plutonia look easy. I don't think this speedrun will ever be topped, except perhaps by yourself!
Them: Welcome to the salty spitoon, how tough are you?
Me: How tough am I? I beat Plutonia.
Them: So?
Me: On Nightmare difficulty *and* I did it in under 50 minutes.
Them: Uh, right this way sir.
Welp, that was a rollercoaster of emotions.
I’ve wasted countless hours of my life on this series - my all time favorite
The music in this game is much more eerie and foreboding in this Doom game, rather than fast and action paced.
What demon did you sell your soul to in order to get this good?
Awesome run, you know the maps by heart.
Zero i applaud you. Plutonia is a very tough game.
Did you use WASD and mouse or the normal DOS Arrow key setup?
+AngryDemon Gaming WASD + mouse, I think mouse has always been enabled even for DOS, though I played doom keyboard only myself about 20 years ago.
+Zero Master I never could get used to using a mouse in this game personally, so I would just play keyboard-only.
You can rebind the controls in the dos version to WASD and mouse too
Did you train a lot? I find it fascinating how some people have so much motivation for a single thing. Whether it's sciences, arts or playing computer games. I usually don't stick with one thing long enough to "master" it. Shame on me. Good Luck mate!
I played doom to the death! Never made it like this. Im just looking at my shelve and looking to the boxes of the game.
I just have one question: How many hours (days) did u put on this? You need to know all levels pretty well to do it this way.
This was the best 45 min youtube time that I ever had!
Thank you for bringing me to the time where games were actually good. Not the crap we have today with pretty super realistic graphics and no gameplay.
Well done indeed. I bow to you.
John Romero do it better if you can! It was not the first time you got beaten at your own game :D
Then you see the new Doom (2016) snapmap... And it is still 1000x inferior to the original Doom 2 maps and online experience. :(
This video belongs in a museum
Awesome! This is amazing!
also i gotta say that iv never seen anyone crunch that archvile level (hunted) like u did.. takes me about an hour to pass that! epic man!
ahhhhh insanity
eric harris
Doing the ''Rocket death glitch'' was a ballzey move considering your on nightmare and you definitely deserve a like for all the pracricew you used for this.
For me this is a invalid run. Death should not be considered...
Unbelievable! I think you can damage your mental health doing Doom NM speed runs :) What's next on the list? Evilution?
skyseersti Nothing else planned for the moment, but probably not evilution, as I didn't enjoy 30ev attempts as much because of the early maps, and episode 1 of TNT on NM is still not done, most likely because of map 09 Stronghold.
skyseersti I'd go insane if i were a speedrunner
+Jody Barker Plutonia has more monsters and all that but for speedrunning tnt seems harder..and I think TNT was a better wad in general tbh the levels were amazing..and tnt had a lot more people work on it with higher development budget and stuff
+VeyLaren Not really. Many of their maps were bland and out of place, like they were rushed or something, but their music is pure golden.
skyseersti he needs a award or a oscar for being the master of doom!!!
Finally. I'm so happy for you. Plutonia has been beaten.
With all the recent Doom ports they have been releasing, I'm surprised they haven't released Final Doom on modern platforms yet.
Dude, HUNTED! You are masterful sir.
its so annoying u can only make it on nightmare if u know all the maps and secrets FLAWLESSLY, u can be best aimer/dodger in the world, with infinite respawns, if u don't know level design in and out, u will simply not make it
Makes this that much more impressive. This guy studied these maps and spent god knows how many hours working this out. That's a level of dedication I've never been able to achieve.
Hey, how’d you get across the invisible bridge at 3.00? I thought you had to shoot the control panel on the left. First time I played, took me ages to work it out....