When people think ringworlds, they think science fiction. But did you know that ringworlds were actually designed in the 70s and we could have it today? Lets explore!
I actually believe with advanced enough technology we could make a great use out of a bunch of smaller versions of the ring world concept. We could use them definitely in the orbital areas around Jupiter and Saturn. Orbiting certain moons!! With strong shielding and hopefully artificial magnetic fields onboard would make these ships safer. Imagine in 2-300 years looking up into the night sky and seeing a dozen of these in orbit around earth!!! And the moon!!
Who was the one to DECLARE a *torus* craft "impossible?" Money? Business? It only wasn't feasible by those who FORBID anything that impose Anti-gravity(🛸), Cure of Profit (💊 💉) or Infinate Energy(☣☢🔋). /👁\ 👀.
Here are a few things on my mind on the subject. Iron Nitride magnets have been made to consistently work now. This is brand new tech that is going to change the magnet scene. It is a permanent magnet which is stronger than rare earth magnets and made out of easily obtained resources. Lots of folk point out that a magnetic rail could be used to transfer the artificial gravity loads of earth and water onto a non-rotating outer sheath build to contain the outward pressure. The sheath can also provide a mechanized day/night cycle.
Well by atom formers we can soon build such stations easily around our inner planets and few centuries form now can build actuall halo ring worlds before or after 3000 bc
I was designing something like this some time ago, although it was more a sphere with space within allocated for habitation, made from a hollowed out asteroid, although that space was similar in shape to a ringworld. The problem I faced was the RPM needed to generate sufficient gravity. I looked everywhere for solution, even going so far as to teach myself how to calculate centrifugal/centripetal forces, but I got stuck. This video reminded me of that idea. All I'll say is: -The habitable space is ring shaped with a diameter of 9-10 km and a width of 4 km. -I was looking into in current day materials/the asteroid shell can withstand those forces. -I spent way too much time thinking of the logistics of spending supplies and resources up there with current tech. -Since this is a sci-fi story, I also looked into theoretical new methods of transportation. To sum up, I like space, I had a cool idea and I wanna get it over with before my mind spontaneously combusts.
@@xeavi7273 There was one star with very odd light emissions that could possibly be one but some scientists say its just a star surrounded by alot of dust. But that just sounds like a "slip it under the rug" explanation to me lol.
With contemporary materials we can't build these things. By the same token though, who would have thought 100 years ago that those flimsy fabric covered planes would be flying at 3 times the speed of sound, and be the key to battlefield superiority today.
10000km!? That's still seriously overkill, some 10-100 kilometers would still work and be way easier. And something like a 100m ring station like gateway would be better.
Yeah there are a lot of options. I don't understand why more people don't propose a ringland with two disk shaped walls on each end. This way it can be quite small and no ceiling required. Those ceilings are a problem.
I never understood why the engineers (the Protectors) in Nivan's book decided to build such a huge structure. Multiple smaller ringworlds with the same overall land area would have been far less challenging to build.
Can i suggest adding the references to where other cgi or real footage comes from as a small watermark or label. ie, escape velocity CGI, interstellar cgi, halo cgi, spacestation footage. Your Unreal renders are getting so good that its getting harder to tell the cgi from reality
Some kind of thrusters would definitely be needed for any artificial space structure like this. Solar winds and micro meteorites etc would over time mess with its stability. It probably wouldn't need constant corrections, but occasionally for sure.
Me a halo Ring is smaler then niven ringworld and would be in a Orbit. IT would only need thrusters to hold the Orbit. I dont can recal that the are rotate in the Games. Niven ringworld is the size of earth Orbit and need thrusters to rotate and correct Against Suns Gravitation
Bishop rings. Love em. We can coexist and sculpt glorious worlds as an art form and have plenty of quality real estate. AI could help us make the scrithe.
Spokes! Why no spokes? We don't build suspension bridges by anchoring them at each end and let the roadway sag down. Why draw or design these structures as big saggy rings when adding a few thousand cables saves massive amounts of material and makes them hundreds of times safer.
Hey nick here, the guy behind the videos. Its my friend Micky who said that he wanted to have a go doing a voice over and I thought it might be a cool idea
The oneil Station in gundam are base on a Design that was build on science and would be in the lagrance points and could be build. Halo rings are in Orbit on the Star but with our technologythey are not to build. Event the Games doesnt give science how they are build and work. But the bigger and older niven ringworlds are proofed through science like through the MIT that is possible to build with spezific Technologie. And These are the size of an Orbit of earth
@@Megames2012 Garbage, try doing some math. The energy to run a roller coaster is not even a tiny fraction of what you need to add any useful momentum to a rocket.
If you mean rail guns, there's 4 main issues. The first one is power. It takes an absolutely ludicrous amount of electricity to get rail guns to fire large projectiles at Mach speeds. You may be familiar with the US navy's rail gun project; the massive power array they had hooked up to that was just for artillery rounds, scale that up to a satellite or space craft and we're talking about multiple dedicated reactors and capacitor banks the size of buildings. The second problem is that the projectile is part of this mind-bogglingly energetic circuit, so if there's any electronic components (or people) on board and they aren't perfectly insulated from the rails they'll be fried and probably explode. Even the electromagnetic fields generated by firing would probably be enough to wipe unshielded hard drives even if they aren't part of the circuit. The third issue is maintenence. The main reason the US naval rail gun program was canceled was because the rails have a very short service life- I think it was around 25 shots before they needed to be replaced. Again, keep in mind we'd be talking about a rail gun the size of at least a small sky scraper, so the logistics of fabricating, inspecting, maintaining, and replacing these rails would be even more difficult and expensive. But the biggest problem is the acceleration. As you probably know, the greater the acceleration of an object the more force it is subjected to. So when and object is accelerated from 0 to Mach 3 or more the over the course of a second it would be make crashing a semi truck into it look like a minor stress. Humans simply can't survive that kind of force and unmanned craft would have to basically be solid on the inside and would be extremely limited on the kinds of joints and moving parts they could have.
Not a recreation of suburbia. Much more likely to be a collection of modules. Economics will drive us toward building complete space station modules on the ground. We’ve got the material and expertise on the ground. Then launch completed modules on top of SpaceX Heavy booster or Blue Origin’s New Glen. Then dock them together with a minimum of spacewalks. We’ll get lots of practice building modules that it will continue like ruts in a road. Then we’ll team them up with tethers and spin them for spin gravity. More tethers, more modules. As little waste space as possible. While we’ll build stations cheaply by today’s standards they’ll still be very expensive by terrestrial building standards. We don’t waste space in Antarctica research stations or submarines. It’s not a matter of physics just economics.
A halo ringworld? It's more intresting if and how the larry niven ringworld can be build. They are the older and very big ringworlds where the halo ringworld looks like a joke
I do not think that modern space stations must have windows in a traditional sense, cameras and screens would do too. We have quite good ability to recreate the natural light spectrum artificially ... now. That later part is a recent development.
Elysium seems about as feasible as modern technology will get in the next 100 years or so... I fully expect it to happen but nothing beyond that scale. At least we will have a place to self-jettison our wealthiest and therefore scummiest citizens... Win/win for everyone... ;-)
I actually believe with advanced enough technology we could make a great use out of a bunch of smaller versions of the ring world concept. We could use them definitely in the orbital areas around Jupiter and Saturn. Orbiting certain moons!! With strong shielding and hopefully artificial magnetic fields onboard would make these ships safer. Imagine in 2-300 years looking up into the night sky and seeing a dozen of these in orbit around earth!!! And the moon!!
Who was the one to DECLARE a *torus* craft "impossible?" Money? Business? It only wasn't feasible by those who FORBID anything that impose Anti-gravity(🛸), Cure of Profit (💊 💉) or Infinate Energy(☣☢🔋). /👁\ 👀.
Here are a few things on my mind on the subject. Iron Nitride magnets have been made to consistently work now. This is brand new tech that is going to change the magnet scene. It is a permanent magnet which is stronger than rare earth magnets and made out of easily obtained resources. Lots of folk point out that a magnetic rail could be used to transfer the artificial gravity loads of earth and water onto a non-rotating outer sheath build to contain the outward pressure. The sheath can also provide a mechanized day/night cycle.
Well such as the O’Neil cylinder, Bernal sphere and Stanford Toris?
Well by atom formers we can soon build such stations easily around our inner planets and few centuries form now can build actuall halo ring worlds before or after 3000 bc
We probably could but no-one has enough money to do it
Worst, you'd have to live with a gregorian chorus always chanting somewhere in the background.
I was designing something like this some time ago, although it was more a sphere with space within allocated for habitation, made from a hollowed out asteroid, although that space was similar in shape to a ringworld. The problem I faced was the RPM needed to generate sufficient gravity. I looked everywhere for solution, even going so far as to teach myself how to calculate centrifugal/centripetal forces, but I got stuck. This video reminded me of that idea.
All I'll say is:
-The habitable space is ring shaped with a diameter of 9-10 km and a width of 4 km.
-I was looking into in current day materials/the asteroid shell can withstand those forces.
-I spent way too much time thinking of the logistics of spending supplies and resources up there with current tech.
-Since this is a sci-fi story, I also looked into theoretical new methods of transportation.
To sum up, I like space, I had a cool idea and I wanna get it over with before my mind spontaneously combusts.
A solution in search of a problem, my life in a nutshell LMAO. Great vid dude. Maybe one on a Dyson sphere.
there's discovery of this dyson sphere civilization somewhere in space
@@xeavi7273 There was one star with very odd light emissions that could possibly be one but some scientists say its just a star surrounded by alot of dust. But that just sounds like a "slip it under the rug" explanation to me lol.
i love how "mars" at 3:40 is just a lunar eclipse moon
With contemporary materials we can't build these things.
By the same token though, who would have thought 100 years ago that those flimsy fabric covered planes would be flying at 3 times the speed of sound, and be the key to battlefield superiority today.
6:12: Kind of like an Inca city.
Great video never expected this from you guys but I really enjoyed it
10000km!? That's still seriously overkill, some 10-100 kilometers would still work and be way easier. And something like a 100m ring station like gateway would be better.
Yeah there are a lot of options. I don't understand why more people don't propose a ringland with two disk shaped walls on each end. This way it can be quite small and no ceiling required. Those ceilings are a problem.
I never understood why the engineers (the Protectors) in Nivan's book decided to build such a huge structure. Multiple smaller ringworlds with the same overall land area would have been far less challenging to build.
Can i suggest adding the references to where other cgi or real footage comes from as a small watermark or label. ie, escape velocity CGI, interstellar cgi, halo cgi, spacestation footage. Your Unreal renders are getting so good that its getting harder to tell the cgi from reality
A solution in search of a problem can turn into an accident looking for a place to happen, real fast.
We're the product of this planet and its gravity and we're not leaving, except perhaps on a little trip.
Really awesome video and channel.
Yeah
Much like Niven's Ring World, would a Halo ring also need constant adjustments, to stay stable?
I imagine so
Some kind of thrusters would definitely be needed for any artificial space structure like this. Solar winds and micro meteorites etc would over time mess with its stability. It probably wouldn't need constant corrections, but occasionally for sure.
Me a halo Ring is smaler then niven ringworld and would be in a Orbit. IT would only need thrusters to hold the Orbit. I dont can recal that the are rotate in the Games. Niven ringworld is the size of earth Orbit and need thrusters to rotate and correct Against Suns Gravitation
I much prefer the tube shaped space colonies of Gundam. Ring worlds while very cool, seem largely impractical on larger scales
they're called O'Neill cylinders
How many channels do you have ..I need more
Bishop rings. Love em.
We can coexist and sculpt glorious worlds as an art form and have plenty of quality real estate.
AI could help us make the scrithe.
Spokes! Why no spokes? We don't build suspension bridges by anchoring them at each end and let the roadway sag down.
Why draw or design these structures as big saggy rings when adding a few thousand cables saves massive amounts of material and makes them hundreds of times safer.
Voice is more relaxed I like it
Hey nick here, the guy behind the videos. Its my friend Micky who said that he wanted to have a go doing a voice over and I thought it might be a cool idea
I hope those HALO ring didn't have "Flood" inside lmao
Want something more fantastical
The gundam space colonies now that's probably not possible to build but more you can think about it it's doable
The oneil Station in gundam are base on a Design that was build on science and would be in the lagrance points and could be build. Halo rings are in Orbit on the Star but with our technologythey are not to build. Event the Games doesnt give science how they are build and work. But the bigger and older niven ringworlds are proofed through science like through the MIT that is possible to build with spezific Technologie. And These are the size of an Orbit of earth
Where did you find the movie of the NASA Stanford Torus?? Is it availabe in UA-cam?
We must wait until 2552
I'm still wondering why we don't electromagnetic rails to get space craft up to speed before launching them.
My guess would be the fact that it would weigh a lot magnets are heavy
@@renaissanceredneck3695 We already have a rollercoaster that does the exact same thing... so it should be feasible...
@@Megames2012 Garbage, try doing some math. The energy to run a roller coaster is not even a tiny fraction of what you need to add any useful momentum to a rocket.
If you mean rail guns, there's 4 main issues. The first one is power. It takes an absolutely ludicrous amount of electricity to get rail guns to fire large projectiles at Mach speeds. You may be familiar with the US navy's rail gun project; the massive power array they had hooked up to that was just for artillery rounds, scale that up to a satellite or space craft and we're talking about multiple dedicated reactors and capacitor banks the size of buildings. The second problem is that the projectile is part of this mind-bogglingly energetic circuit, so if there's any electronic components (or people) on board and they aren't perfectly insulated from the rails they'll be fried and probably explode. Even the electromagnetic fields generated by firing would probably be enough to wipe unshielded hard drives even if they aren't part of the circuit. The third issue is maintenence. The main reason the US naval rail gun program was canceled was because the rails have a very short service life- I think it was around 25 shots before they needed to be replaced. Again, keep in mind we'd be talking about a rail gun the size of at least a small sky scraper, so the logistics of fabricating, inspecting, maintaining, and replacing these rails would be even more difficult and expensive. But the biggest problem is the acceleration. As you probably know, the greater the acceleration of an object the more force it is subjected to. So when and object is accelerated from 0 to Mach 3 or more the over the course of a second it would be make crashing a semi truck into it look like a minor stress. Humans simply can't survive that kind of force and unmanned craft would have to basically be solid on the inside and would be extremely limited on the kinds of joints and moving parts they could have.
@@jamesmclemore9123 Talking about using electromagnetics to launch a spacecraft. We've done it with a rollercoaster, so why not a space shuttle?
Surely walls as high as the atmosphere will do instead of a roof (as long as the atmosphere keeps turning with the ring)?
WOAH
Where did F&E's voice go?
He gave management of the channel to someone else due to how difficult it was posting for both, and having them in different styles was easier
Not a recreation of suburbia. Much more likely to be a collection of modules.
Economics will drive us toward building complete space station modules on the ground. We’ve got the material and expertise on the ground. Then launch completed modules on top of SpaceX Heavy booster or Blue Origin’s New Glen. Then dock them together with a minimum of spacewalks.
We’ll get lots of practice building modules that it will continue like ruts in a road. Then we’ll team them up with tethers and spin them for spin gravity. More tethers, more modules. As little waste space as possible. While we’ll build stations cheaply by today’s standards they’ll still be very expensive by terrestrial building standards. We don’t waste space in Antarctica research stations or submarines. It’s not a matter of physics just economics.
I want to believe
I love the video but it's missing ambient music.
A halo ringworld? It's more intresting if and how the larry niven ringworld can be build. They are the older and very big ringworlds where the halo ringworld looks like a joke
I do not think that modern space stations must have windows in a traditional sense, cameras and screens would do too. We have quite good ability to recreate the natural light spectrum artificially ... now. That later part is a recent development.
Idk
halo rubgs ae best
Ironiclly the ring spins only to save on power use for artificial gravity
"it is a solution in search of a problem" the problem is terraforming is terraforming!
TLDR No xD
bút they exist real life
👊 "Promosm"
Elysium seems about as feasible as modern technology will get in the next 100 years or so... I fully expect it to happen but nothing beyond that scale. At least we will have a place to self-jettison our wealthiest and therefore scummiest citizens... Win/win for everyone... ;-)
Nope
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