@@loretohidalgo3533I always disagree with Haechan since we have the same personality 😂 but this time, I think he was right, Carat Cake was better, or BOX
The way Haechan and jaemin are “shown” to fans as crazy or like a laughing stock but in reality them being the most matured and always putting aside their personal opinions and work as a team and come together as a team is sooo freaking cool!!!
@@happypeeingdoyoungyou keep saying that, but when will you relise mark doesn’t care for that, what he wants for dream is to keep their originality, smoothie was a expermitak track and dream have always had a youthful , emotional vibe to them, unknown fit that perfectly, so weather people like it or not, mark was smart for what he wanted.
근데 진짜 마크도 마크인데 해찬이도 날카롭다고 생각함. 진짜 캐럿케익으로 챌린지 하고 마켓팅돌리면 요쉐만큼은 갈 것 같음. 마크가 약간 노래를 보여주는 선택을 한거라면, 해찬이는 진짜 홍보. 앨범이 잘되는 선택을 할 줄 아는 사람임. 그리고 마크가 빼먹은 부분들을 유일하게 지적할줄 아는 사람인것같음. 이래서 마크해찬 이렇게가 세월이 보장해주는 조합인것같음.
와 ㄹㅇ이요 저는 해찬이가 캐럿케익 얘기했을때 진짜 놀랐던게 저도 처음에 수록곡 다 듣자마자 이건 케럿케익 챌린지를 했으면 왓츠댓 부분이 챌린지로 바이럴이 진짜 잘됐을거 같다고 생각했었거든요 물론 마크 말이 좀 더 드림의 커리어적 면모(ex 맛-고래, 캔디-graduation)를 이어가는 데는 훨씬 좋을거라는 부분에서 일리가 있고 맞는 말이지만 저는 무대영상을 클립으로만 시청한다, 바이럴이 필요하다, 챌린지가 중요하다 처럼 요즘 시대의 흐름을 잘 파악하고 마크의 말에 논리적으로 반박할 수 있었던 해찬이가 진짜 대단하다고 생각해요
Mark is 100% correct here. Smoothie is more "experimental" considering it's a Dream song and not a 127 song. Having Unknown still gives that refreshing youthful and hopeful tone. Not to mention Dream's audience (for the most part) consists of a lot of people who are going through life with uncertainty and unease as they grow older. Having Smoothie is like "it's okay to try new things and take a chance" and then Unknown is like "but it's okay if you're afraid to do those things you got this keep your head up" and that's always what Dream has been about. Mark knows his audience and understands Dream's concept perfectly. Leader indeed
If Mark wants a melodic song that nct dream coded, he should choose Breathing. you guys can see the views on their playlist that Breathing has more views than Unknown. I'm kinda sad that Breathing was not selected.
@@aczen0528box is better! The beat is nice the vibes of the song is good! Plus they can actually do a dance for it. Unknown isn’t really all that. Yes it have a message but idk the flow of it just not that. I agree with Haechan on this Box would have been a better choice or go with a song that would go viral Carrot cake and rn that song is trending all over twitter and instagram.
마크가 확실히 팬들이랑 대중 반응을 가장 잘 이해하는듯…. 박스는 호불호가 너무 심함ㅠㅠ 대중이 드림한테 기대하는 건 고래, 오르골, 북극성같은 이지리스닝적인 곡임 (실제로도 타이틀보다 더 바이럴되기도 한 듯) 박스를 선택하면 팬들만 보는 무대가 됐을 뻔 했는데 언노운 좋은 선택이라고 봄
I'm glad that Mark still has ambition and passion for a song because In a kpop world only Mark lee debuted 5th times , he and active 2 groups also being leader, main rapper, main dancer, song writer, composer and also his solo song, he has debuted 8 years but still has an ambition ( he ever said in the lost boys that his passion for a song is getting numb already that why he scared himself ) Now seeing him defense unknown for 7dream TT He is so precious Another name of Mark lee is hardwork, patience, ambition. I just want him to be happy He just deserves the universe
Both mark and haechan both have some valid point everyone. Please do not make it seem like they are not thinking bout the group. It ha been decided we got Unknown. Whether unknown or carat cake please respect their decisions. Send lots of love for nct dream. Thank you dreamies for all your efforts! We lov you so much! 💚
The depth of Mark's understanding of the fan's side and what is best for the team is really 👌. Thank you for fighting hard, Markie. You're the best leader indeed
Lee Mark really knows nct dream theme so well, why many people love dream. Yes we need easy listening song like unknown, broken melodies. Glad mark won this because I'm one of dream fans who wanna see unknown live stage. The melody, the lyrics, unknown won
Haechan asking each one of the members what song they like at the beginning of the video, waiting for everyone to share their opinions before sharing his, and explaining clearly his perspective are all so admirable of him. He even consider Breathing and Box because these songs are suggested by others despite Carat Cake being his personal choice. When he was conflicted with the performance for Unknown, he specifically asked how they would interpret it. Even made the others laugh (esp CL and JM) along the way and even had fun vibing around with RJ. When JS had a thought he listened and explained to him camly how people watch shows nowadays. In turn, JS agreed with him. I love also how Haechan carries himself with so much knowledge and confidence. People see it as something bad goodness, we need more people like him who are straightforward and goal-driven. And no, it doesn't make him shallow that he's after trends/virality of the song. He is so sure of Dream's abilities and wants to introduce the group to a larger audience. His target is the general public. That doesn't make him less of a person or a dream member just because he didn't pick a "dream-coded" song. He just had a different perspective and again, he's so smart for that. At the very end, he offered a truce with that "give up" statements and wants them all to vote and accept the results. After which, he properly said goodbye and even bowed to which the staff said thanks to him. Haechan, you did well. Thank you also for moving forward from this meeting and doing your best performing Unknown. Your Unknown fancams have the most number views because we see how diligent you are with your work. Thank you for your ideas and good job, Fullsun! ❤
Mark and Haechan's opinions are actually both good, Mark sees it from Sijeuni's point of view so he wants Dream's identity, while Haechan sees it from a non-fan's point of view too. Haechan wants non-fans who are curious to continue taking part in the challenge of his song continuing to go viral. And this time I'm on the Heachan team because now it's the dance challenge era
I'm actually on Mark's team bcs I want to continue enjoying Dream's music, their original music what they love, not just to chase some clout or to go viral. I don't want them to become just like other groups with no identity and only chasing popularity, I don't want DREAM to lose their uniqueness
언노운으로 정한 거 진짜 잘한 거라고 생각함..시즈니는 아니지만 엔드림 노래 좋아하는데 그게 마크가 말하는 것처럼 항상 ’노래 좋은 거 있다‘ 라는 의견 밀고가서 그런 거 같다. 엔드림 노래 주에 특히 위영, 오르골, 헬로퓨쳐, 위고업 등등 좋아하는데 언노운 멜로디 좋아서 맨날 듣게됨
The fact that Unknown verse went to viral already since Mark and haechan teaser. The beat, melody, and lyrics is so healing . Like we got a hug from NCT dream.
if i were sm, i’d give everything to mark on a golden platter. his dedication is not a one-time thing, his attitude is admirable. he didn’t laugh or mock, he professionally stood on his ground. you could tell the difference. he deserves so much better 🫂
Yes, i couldn't agree more If i were SM i will give everything to Mark. You can see His capable,his talent, his attitude, his humble He is deserves better.
@@happypeeingdoyoungwhat your not getting is mark is dreams leader of 8 years, ge definitely thinks of these things more than everyone else, so yes he thought of the marketing wich is why he chose unknown, go look at the comment and see how much people enjoyed the performance they just had with unknown, breathing was boring and wound it leave a powerful impact, box could have been a good choice too, but it was to similar to to smoothie, he wanted something youthful and unknown fit that. Above anything mark doesn’t care for marketing, he doesn’t want nct dream to lose that dream feel, he was right to choose unknown
in this world, while everyone is chasing trends and popularity, leader Mark stands strong for the originality and message of his group’s songs. GREAT LEADER
@@쨩-j6fwow ah.u afraid that mark is hurt,so for nctzen it ok to bully Haechan in comments sections because he disagrees in song choice.nctzen are so double standards lah.
솔직히 시즈니 입장으로도 봤을 때 드림이들이 수록곡이 엄청 예뻐서 뜬게 더 크긴 하지…. 모든 노래가 정말 좋긴 하지만! 내 친구들도 헬로퓨처가 뭐임? 하면서 오르골은 알고 맛은 뭐임? 하면서 고래는 또 앎…. (슬프당…..) 그만큼 노래가 이쁘니까 뜬건데 마크가 진짜 똑똑한 거임 팬들을 위해서 대중들을 위해서 예쁜 노래를 생각하고 의견을 낸거니까 드림이들이 마크를 믿고 따르는 이유를 알겠음 마크 의견 잘 따라주는 드리미들도 너무 멋져 이번 활동도 행복하게 하자 사랑해💚
수록곡도 유명하고 오르골도 틱톡 바이럴되면서 잘된거맞는데 헬퓨는 ㄹㅇ 머글도 알던데요..남자 아이돌 안좋아하는 제 남사친이나 여사친들도 드림노래 중에 아는 몇 안되는 곡 중에 헬퓨랑 맛 있더라고요 엔시티 좋아한다고 하니까 스몰토크로 자기 헬퓨 좋아한다고 칭찬했었음 음원성적도 맛이랑 헬퓨가 더 좋았구 수록곡 좋은것과 별개로 후려치는건 이해가 안됨.. 특히 헬퓨는 넘나 이즈리스닝인데
@@리포트-o2d 정말요?? 저는 제 친구들 모두가 모르더라구요…. 그리고 저는 절대 헬퓨나 맛 등 타이틀을 깎아내릴 의도가 전혀 없었습니다😿 전 엔시티의 모든 음악을 좋아하고 사랑해요…. 스밍도 항상 돌리구요!! 제가 오해의 소지를 만들었네요ㅠㅠ 죄송합니다 우리 이번 컴백도 같이 힘내요!!
oh leader mark, we love you so much. when the teaser with ‘unknown’ dropped, a lot of people started using it on tiktok. the song is easy on the ears, the lyrics are inspiring too 🫂
마크는 드림의 방향성에 대해 되게 잘 이해하고 확고한 것 같음 해찬이는 시류를 읽고 본연의 팀 색을 잃지는 않는 선에서 그거에 맞춰서 유연하게 맞춰가려는 것 같고 ㅜㅜㅜ 둘이 어느부분에 더 중점을 두느냐만 다르지 너무 맞는 말만 해서 마크가 말하면 이게 맞지... 하다가 해찬이 얘기에 이게 맞긴해... 이러고있음
언노운한거 진짜 잘 한 선택임. 당장에 멜론 댓들 들어가보면 스무디 말고 언노운이 미니의 타이틀이었어야 이 앨범의 마무리가 완벽했었다라는 반응부터 일단 팬들도 언노운을 가장 좋아함. 숨을 커플곡으로 했으면 캔디때 졸업과 너무 겹치고 박스를 택했다면 디기리와 겹쳤겠지. 언노운같은 커플곡 단 한번도 없었음.
100% agreeeeeee with mark. Dream music identity is something hopeful, if not always bright but definitely easy listening. If dream change their sound to kind a more “neo” sound i don’t think there is a specific different between dream and 127 sound.
That's absolutely right. I'm so agree with you too.. Imagine if Dreamies suddenly goin neo or futuristic era like 127 does, how the world of fans could explain? How?? I was really amazed how insisted and determined of Mark keep his fave b-side song till get confirmed to be perform as couple song.. Ah love that❤
Agreee. When I first time listen to Smoothie I was like 'oh kinda reminds me about 127' . For me personally, Box could be better tittle song than Smoothie for Dream.
mark's leadership and his clarity of musical vision - and what defines dream - is absolutely on display here. SO impressive!! SO articulate and thoughtful!! let Mark run the company already!!!!!
Mark understands that chasing a cheap tiktok trend will ruin the group! Music should be about art, not quick hits! Unknown is the only song that sounds like NCT Dream’s unique signature sound with its melodies and soothing harmonies.
I really agree with mark. Unknown is gives like a support? Like we know life is hard and that's okay bcs everyone do. And we need music like that for this hard life. Mark is really know the market
I agree with Mark. Unknown is the song that shows who Dream is and it’s easy listening. I think the public will love it as well. I like Breathing and Box as well but I think Box should be saved for concerts. TDS3 here we goooo!
역시 마크가 뭔가 크게 봤을때 뭘 추구해야하는지 알고 있고 그걸 강요하지는 않지만 자신의 의견을 계속해서 포기하지 않는게 좋다. 난 마크의 의견이 좋다고 생각함. 다른 멤버들 보면 그냥 그 곡 자체로 꾸밀 수 있는 점을 보고 있지만 마크는 그걸 넘어서 시즈니에게 또 대중에게 어떤 이미지를 심어 주고 싶은지에 대해서도 잘 이해했다고 생각함.
그냥 마크와 해찬이 모두 팀에 꼭 있어야 하는 멤버들이고 각자 방향성과 추구미가 달라도 무작정 자기 의견을 우기려 들지 않고 논리적으로 최선을 다해 설득하되 투표 결과에 승복하는 것도 멋있고 그냥 그 어떤 드림의 영상보다 이 영상이 너무 애들이 음악과 이 일에대해 얼마나 진심인지 알 수 있어서 너무 보기 예쁘다❤
Mark truly understand what NCT Dream needed as a group, and also what the fans want. I am so thankful to Mark for defending 'Unknown' with his whole life (we can visibly see how stressed he was hahah). To Haechan and Jeno i am sorry babes, but Mark was right
thank you mark for being this passionate about unknown. I truly believe that’s the best decision! can’t wait to see the final result at the music shows! Good luck
haechan is always right! im amazed he knows the industry so well. i bet his solo will be huge bcs not only he knows what hes doing, he also has a clear vision of what he wants to achieve!
Mark's deep understanding of music and his profound grasp of Dream's themes and messages truly resonate. It's reassuring that as a leader, he transcends the superficiality of trends. In a society where conformity often prevails, it's inspiring to witness his steadfast commitment to preserving Dream's identity. We truly appreciate a thoughtful and well-articulated man 🙌🫶
@@ghnkv don’t blame Mark! The bside doesn’t matter. At the end of the day if NCT Dream tanks it’s because all the members chose a bad title track. Smoothie right now is tanking on melon and NCT Dream isn’t even eligible for nomination on inkigayo. Having Box or Carat Cake as the promoted bside wasn’t going to save the Smoothie comeback
@@TeresaCamilleThey’re tanking cause of gheir music and that meeting explained why they produce low quality music. And Dreamzen overhyping and overpraising Mark should realized their precious Mark was just so lucky SM favored him. This kind of music really sucks
@@ghnkv Mark confirmed that all of Dream voted for Smoothie to be the title track after months of listening to other options. Blame all of them for their poor selection then, don’t blame Mark
The fact that Mark’s Unknown verse went viral haha, he really knows what’s best for the group and combines it with what the fans want! It was really interesting to see how well versed he is within the industry as well! He is very clever in the way he aims to balance artistry and the commercialization of a song! Mark truly is the best leader!!!🥰💚
Mark looks forward as a team first He wants 7Dream to acknowledge a good song equal to a good performance Thank you Mark for being leader of NCT dream. You are the best leader.
I’m grateful for Mark for rly rooting for UNKNOWN. It’s THE SONG that really speaks to, not just the fans, but also to people who are going through struggles in life. We live in a society where superficial desires come first, and UNKNOWN is definitely the song that brings us back to the reality that in the end, we’re just humans and that we need to really be strong for ourselves and to lift each other up. I would even go as far as to say that this song is the HEART of the mini album. Mark is definitely right for saying that the fans will love this song 🥹 WE ALL DO 🥹🥹🥹
@@YasseFlipp it's my favorite song among the album. It has special place in my heart, it heals and motivate me. All song is great! But i prefer BOX to be couple song 😂
@@YasseFlipp then just say you hate NCT Dream and find them boring. Unknown is the only song that sounds like NCT Dream’s signature sound! It’s beautiful and unique in kpop. They shouldn’t compromise their unique identity for a fleeting TikTok hit
Oh Mark i hope you know FANS ARE CHEERING that you won this couple song battle lol. UNKNOWN was so loved by fans (w/ it's meaning & knowing 7Dream by heart) it's soooo good! We love you Mark, thank you for fighting for unknown! Our leader🥹🥹🥹
i'm so happy mark fought for unknown with everything he had. it's my favourite track on the album and it made me so happy when i learned they were gonna promote it alongside smoothie. the entire album is absolutely incredible so i would've liked any of the other tracks but unknown just has that special something about it
마크가 진짜 825% 맞는 얘기하고 있네. 엔시티에서 드림이 가져갈 수 있는 정체성이 무엇인가 생각해보면, NCT의 네오함(독특함)을 잃지 않으면서도 조금더 대중에게 다가가기 쉬운 곡들을 발표한다는 느낌이거든. 그러기 위해서는 드림이 내는 앨범에 이런 좋은 노래들이 있어요 하고 알리는 게 중요함. 마크 말이 다 맞아요. 127의 색은 충분히 선명해졌기 때문에, 지금은 NCT 내부에서의 드림의 정체성을 확고하게 보여줘야 할 중요한 시기임.
마크가 확실히 리더다 ,, 팬들의 니즈도 정확히 파악하고있고 언노운은 팬들이 정말 다 좋아할 거라는 확신을 가지고 말하는 것도 너무 대단하다고 생각핰,,, 마크야 고마워요 ,,언노운이 커플곡인 거 알면서 봤지만 언노우,,,ㄴ 언,,,,노운,,,,,,,언,,ㄴ,,ㅗ운,,,,, 하면서 봤다 ,,,,,,,
100% agree with Mark. THANK YOU MARK LEE FOR SERVING US WITH UNKNOWN!!! The whole world needs to hear Unknown as it gives positive vibe everytime we hear it. 7dream im rooting for you always, please always be healthy and happy, babies
honestly both sides are just right. box defo has THAT impact that can influence even non fans but unknown is a dream song. nct dream has a distinct melody and unknown is one of it. thank u leader mark
Mark lee I want to truly happy I know how hard to being a leader of NCT dream. I want you freely do whatever you want to do. Make your own story, own color, own identity. I know you will nailed it. Idk i just sad that Mark fighting alone for the team. I'm just sensitive for Mark Because he is the most hardwork , he work in many unit since debut so he has long time physical fatige enough. i just want him to freely and happy to work in 7dream. i just want 7dream understand his status just trust and follow the leader. Mark who always devote himself for 7dream the most.
마크 말에 정말 공감…나는 개인적으로 커플곡은 타이틀이랑 아예 다른 분위기가 좋음ㅜ컨셉이 좀 겹치는 곡은 마크 말대로 스무디(타이틀)에서 다 보여줘야 함!! 이번 뿐만 아니라 앞으로도 이런 댓글 보고 참고해줘 얘두라,,127도 글코,,,그리고 드림만의 색깔 계속 가져가야 하는 거 너무 맞는말이야,,
그럼에도 불구하고 아이덴티티를 이어가고자 한 마크의 설득은 너무 똑똑하고 섬세하다고 느껴짐... 이번 타이틀 너무너무 좋고 신선한데 그만큼 정말 낯설기도 함. 새로운 시도는 기존의 색깔이 사라질 것을 우려하는 사람들이 늘 있는 법이고 어찌 보면 팀의 아이덴티티가 흐려질 수도 있음. 마크는 이런 우려를 해소시키기 위한 영리한 선택을 한 거고~~!! 마크야 언노운 사랑해줘서 고마워요♡
at the end of the day yall are just mad that haechan was right, calling him names like stubborn and shit when he was still professional about it, idk if you people forgot that this is a job that needs to search for success too
마크가 드림의 아이덴티티를 장기적으로 내다보면서 큰 그림을 그린듯. BOX 나 숨 Carot Cake도 다 좋긴 하지만 여태까지 드림이 시드니들과 대중들에게 동시에 사랑 받은 곡들 생각해보면 확실히 UNKNOWN이 결이 비슷함. 타이틀에서 집중적으로 퍼포먼스 보여주고 커플곡은 Unknown 기억에 남을만한 예쁜 멜로디로 각인시켜주는 게 대중들이 드림은 수록곡이 좋다는 인식을 심어줘서 앨범 나오면 찾아듣게되는 루트로 만들어가는 갈 수 있음. 팬들은 앨범나오면 다 듣기 때문에 이번에는 커플곡이 아닐뿐 드림의 정체성은 그대로 가져갔네 생각하겠지만 대중들은 사실 프로모션 들어가는 곡들만 듣는게 대부분이기 때문에 앨범에 고래, 오르골, Broken Melodies 이랑 비슷한 결의 곡이 있더라도 이번에는 고래같은 노래 없네 싶은 생각이 들 수 있음. 그러면 거기서 대중들이 인식하는 드림의 음악적 정체성이 삐끗 할 수 있다고 생각함. 일관성을 가져가야 대중들이 수록곡을 찾아듣게 만들 수 있을테니까. 이번에 프로모션 비디오 반응만 봐도 UNKNOWN이 젤 반응 좋았음. 개인적으로도 처음 듣고 오르골이 좀 더 얼반 느낌으로 세련되지면 이런 느낌이지 않을까 싶었어서 제일 기대한 곡이었음. 마크같은 리더랑 일해보고 싶다는 생각이 들만큼 이번 미팅은 무대 아래에서 어떤 생각을 가지고 작업하는지 엿볼 수 있어서 진짜 좋았음.
드림이 꼭 알아줬으면 좋겠는게 사실 드림이 정말 어릴 때 데뷔하기도 했고 컨셉 자체도 굉장히 어렸기 때문에 성장한 모습이나 강렬한 모습을 보여주고 싶다는 마음도 이해가 가고 어느정도 동의하는 바임! 그렇지만 아이돌 그룹이기에 그룹의 색을 분명하게 가져가는게 정말 중요하다고 생각함 드림은 청량+힙함+대중적인 멜로디 가 특징이라고 생각하는데 이걸 절대 잃지 않아줬으면 좋겠음 그런 맥락에서 이번 앨범에서 그래도 멜로디가 가장 확실하고 편하게 들을 수 있는 Unknown이 채택된 게 아닐까 싶음 꼭 버퍼링 ISTJ 스무디처럼 강한 노래와 퍼포먼스가 아니더라도 충분히 성장한 모습 멋진 모습 보여줄 수 있음👍🏻 드림은 실제로 많이 컸고 연차도 꽤 됐고 그래서 이때 보여줄 수 있는 밝음은 데뷔 때와는 또다른 성숙한 밝음이라고 생각하기 때문에☺️ 아무튼 드림이 이렇게 팀에 열정을 갖고 고민하는 모습에 또 한번 반했다 한 명도 빠짐없이 모두 진지하게 의견내고 회의하는 모습이 정말 보기 좋았고 인상깊었어😃 앞으로도 이런 컨텐츠 자주 내주길!
자꾸 언노운이 그만큼 좋은 곡이냐고 그러는데ㅋㅋㅋ마크도 분명히 언급해요 고래만큼은 아니라고..그치만 지금 발매된 수록곡들 중에서 골라야하는 거고 그 중에서 언노운이 그 이미지를 보여줄 수 있는 가장 최선의 픽이라는 걸 얘기하고 있는 거 아닌가 그리고 언노운이 호불호 적은 곡이라는 말은 멜론 차트 보고오시면 이해되실듯
에셈은 아이돌이라면 타이틀은 무조건 센걸해야지라는 구시대적인 마인드가 박혀있는것 같음 그 생각이 아티스트들한테도 계속 주입되는거 같고......마크 말대로 드림의 무기는 퍼포먼스가 아니라 노래임 그걸 알면서도 타이틀은 계속 센걸 가져가면 그건 타이틀이 아니라 그냥 버리는거 아닌가....?제발 가장 잘하고 팬들대중이 원하는걸 1순위로 보여줬으면. 난 아직도 고래가 1집 타이틀이었어야 했다고 본다.......
i love that they are showing this. dreamies are always serious when it comes to their work. and im happy that they allowed us to see this side of them! and i respect mark as a leader so much! he always thinks for the team and czennies
i'm not even a big nct dream fan or anything, i have some songs of theirs that i like and i just stumbled across this video somehow but i want to say mark really got a lot of respect from me for this. he went into this knowing what the best option was and was able to succeed in convincing the majority but the most important part to me is how he's focused more on the quality of the music that reflects their career up until now than what would make a few seconds of the song go viral or the performance, which is already more of a important factor for the title song. i really respect that a lot, as someone who values music quality over trendiness and who knows how nowadays many groups don't care about the quality and are more drawn to making something go viral, and i really love how he did not waver at all and his beliefs and trust towards his music is so strong. i just listened to unknown and it's a great song, i'm 100% with him (and now i'm gonna go play the song multiple more times)
you put so well. In a time where almost every bg is focused more on performance and virality, the boldest thing you can do is sticking to the fundamentals: delivering a musically good song. And that’s why ppl are drawn to dream, and why it’s important to lean on this identity so as to separate yourself from the competition. mark has different musical opinions when it comes to his own solo music, but hes clearly thinking about the group here, which is why he’s a brilliant leader
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Mark stands for the Branding team, Haechan stands for the Marketing team. Both have good points
Yeah both are completely right. But at the end the important part is getting attention and money lmao Unknown was a bad decision
@@loretohidalgo3533Unknown is the third highest streams on Spotify. Not a bad idea tbh
@@loretohidalgo3533I always disagree with Haechan since we have the same personality 😂 but this time, I think he was right, Carat Cake was better, or BOX
마크가 팬들과 대중들이 원하는 드림이 뭔지 정말 잘 이해하고 있는 것 같다 진짜 드림의 방향성이 어디로 가야하는지 정말 정확히 알고있어서 아 역시 리더…
ㄹㅇ.. 보면서 언노운..언노운...같이 빌었음..ㅋㅋㅋ ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
@@김인혜-j3j 진짜로 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 언노운 제발…
마크가 리더인 이유가 확실히 돋보이는듯
진심.... 다른 멤들이 강하게 의견 내도 진짜 중심 딱 잘 잡고 설득하는데 또 다른 멤들도 지지해주고... 드림은 밸런스가 진짜 좋은듯...
진짜 보면서 소리 질렀다 언노운으로 결정되었을 때
The way Haechan and jaemin are “shown” to fans as crazy or like a laughing stock but in reality them being the most matured and always putting aside their personal opinions and work as a team and come together as a team is sooo freaking cool!!!
마크야 니 말이 다 맞다.... 드림은 무대도 무대지만 음원으로 승부봐야하는 팀임 무대가 별로라는 뜻이 아니라 음원이 더 맛있음 그런 이미지를 계속 가져가는게 장기적으로도 훨씬 이득임
맞습니다 곡이 좋다는 입소문이 퍼지면 데이식스나 엑소첫눈처럼 역주행으로 곡이 팍뜰수도 있는거고.. bts도 수많은 퍼포곡들을 제치고 가장 롱런하고 있는 곡은 봄날이니깐요 음원도 신경 써줬으면 좋겠다 스엠...
진짜 공감
공감. 안그러면 127과 다를바가 없어진다고 생각해요. 마크가 드림이랑 127 둘 다 활동하고 있어서 이 부분에 대한 생각을 깊게 한 티가 나요. 그런데 자기 말만 맞다고 강하게 밀어부치지도 않고 설득하는 모습이 진짜 이 시대의 참된 리더상……👏🏼
@@misunssee 뚝심있게 밀고나가지만 고집처럼 느껴지진 않는 이 타협점을 찾았다는게 팬이 아닌 화법과작문시간에 틀어줘도 ㄹㅈㄷ 토론장임 지금..
I really love how Mark is persistent abt his visions for NCT dream .he is not willing to compromise on Dream's message and I'm so glad
Same!!
Not a great marketing decision but ok... we win some and lose some.
@@happypeeingdoyoungyou keep saying that, but when will you relise mark doesn’t care for that, what he wants for dream is to keep their originality, smoothie was a expermitak track and dream have always had a youthful , emotional vibe to them, unknown fit that perfectly, so weather people like it or not, mark was smart for what he wanted.
@@rosie5816 ok. Go watch the Unkown performance then
@@rosie5816 Yes!
근데 진짜 마크도 마크인데 해찬이도 날카롭다고 생각함. 진짜 캐럿케익으로 챌린지 하고 마켓팅돌리면 요쉐만큼은 갈 것 같음. 마크가 약간 노래를 보여주는 선택을 한거라면, 해찬이는 진짜 홍보. 앨범이 잘되는 선택을 할 줄 아는 사람임. 그리고 마크가 빼먹은 부분들을 유일하게 지적할줄 아는 사람인것같음. 이래서 마크해찬 이렇게가 세월이 보장해주는 조합인것같음.
와진짜 ㅇㅈ
와 ㄹㅇ이요 저는 해찬이가 캐럿케익 얘기했을때 진짜 놀랐던게 저도 처음에 수록곡 다 듣자마자 이건 케럿케익 챌린지를 했으면 왓츠댓 부분이 챌린지로 바이럴이 진짜 잘됐을거 같다고 생각했었거든요 물론 마크 말이 좀 더 드림의 커리어적 면모(ex 맛-고래, 캔디-graduation)를 이어가는 데는 훨씬 좋을거라는 부분에서 일리가 있고 맞는 말이지만 저는 무대영상을 클립으로만 시청한다, 바이럴이 필요하다, 챌린지가 중요하다 처럼 요즘 시대의 흐름을 잘 파악하고 마크의 말에 논리적으로 반박할 수 있었던 해찬이가 진짜 대단하다고 생각해요
진짜 보면서 드림이들은 항상 노래가 좋지 라고 생각하는 사람이어서, 시즈니가 아닌 대중이 음원으로 접근하려면 unknown이고,
틱톡이나 인스타 같은 숏폼쪽으로 잡으려면 해찬이가 말한대로가 맞아서
보면서 둘 다 끄덕이고 있었어요
근데 사실 바이럴로 숏폼에서 와 노래좋다는 느낌으로 음원까지 넘어오기가 힘들어서
드림은 NEO+좋은 수록곡들의 vibe로 가야한다는게 더 컨셉적으로도 좋은듯..!
Mark is 100% correct here. Smoothie is more "experimental" considering it's a Dream song and not a 127 song. Having Unknown still gives that refreshing youthful and hopeful tone. Not to mention Dream's audience (for the most part) consists of a lot of people who are going through life with uncertainty and unease as they grow older. Having Smoothie is like "it's okay to try new things and take a chance" and then Unknown is like "but it's okay if you're afraid to do those things you got this keep your head up" and that's always what Dream has been about. Mark knows his audience and understands Dream's concept perfectly. Leader indeed
💯
If Mark wants a melodic song that nct dream coded, he should choose Breathing. you guys can see the views on their playlist that Breathing has more views than Unknown. I'm kinda sad that Breathing was not selected.
@@DestikaGultomat least it's better than BOX 🤷🏽♀️
@@aczen0528box is better! The beat is nice the vibes of the song is good! Plus they can actually do a dance for it. Unknown isn’t really all that. Yes it have a message but idk the flow of it just not that. I agree with Haechan on this Box would have been a better choice or go with a song that would go viral Carrot cake and rn that song is trending all over twitter and instagram.
so true! mark knows the image of dream and knows what's at its heart, which is why he is the core of nct dream
마크가 드림이라는 팀의 이해도가 뛰어난 것 같다 역시 리더. 어떤게 강점인지 팬과 대중에게 어떤점을 어필해야하는지 치열하게 고민하고 연구한 듯. 드림하면 역시 노래좋고 수록곡 맛집이지
I love how haechan critical thinking works here. I love seeing him gives out his opinion sincerely
7:57 지성이 말도 진쩌 공감가긴 함⋯ 박스가 너무 강해서 스무디가 묻힐 거 같긴 해
마크가 언노운만 외치는 것도 들어보니 ‘’‘드림만의 색깔’‘’을 지키고 싶다는 거니까,,,
That's right, I also think the same as Jisung and Mark
나도 박스 거의 타이틀감이다 생각했었던
마크가 확실히 팬들이랑 대중 반응을 가장 잘 이해하는듯…. 박스는 호불호가 너무 심함ㅠㅠ 대중이 드림한테 기대하는 건 고래, 오르골, 북극성같은 이지리스닝적인 곡임 (실제로도 타이틀보다 더 바이럴되기도 한 듯) 박스를 선택하면 팬들만 보는 무대가 됐을 뻔 했는데 언노운 좋은 선택이라고 봄
박스같은 무대가 너무 많음 나도 박스 최애지만.. 마크가 진짜 대단한거임 이런걸 안다는게
Yes
댓츠롸잇
근데 마크 고집대로 의견을 밀고갈꺼면 회의할 의미가 없다고봄 ..
@@팩폭-k5v 마크는 충분히 멤버들에게 물어보고 배려해줬다고 생각합니다 결국 설득을 성공했고 투표로 뽑힌거구요 그리고 멤버들이 다 다른곡으로 반박하는 모습이 인상깊었음 !
I'm glad that Mark still has ambition and passion for a song because
In a kpop world only Mark lee debuted 5th times , he and active 2 groups also being leader, main rapper, main dancer, song writer, composer and also his solo song, he has debuted 8 years but still has an ambition ( he ever said in the lost boys that his passion for a song is getting numb already that why he scared himself )
Now seeing him defense unknown for 7dream TT
He is so precious
Another name of Mark lee is hardwork, patience, ambition.
I just want him to be happy
He just deserves the universe
드림이들 이렇게 모여서 회의 하는 거 너무 좋음 각자 의견도 내고 그 의견이 모이면서 멋진 앨범이 나오니까..
”박스에서 보여줄 수 있는 장점 같은 거나 그런 거는 스무디로 이미 다 보여줘야 된다고 생각해“
Both mark and haechan both have some valid point everyone. Please do not make it seem like they are not thinking bout the group. It ha been decided we got Unknown. Whether unknown or carat cake please respect their decisions. Send lots of love for nct dream. Thank you dreamies for all your efforts! We lov you so much! 💚
The depth of Mark's understanding of the fan's side and what is best for the team is really 👌. Thank you for fighting hard, Markie. You're the best leader indeed
Lee Mark really knows nct dream theme so well, why many people love dream. Yes we need easy listening song like unknown, broken melodies. Glad mark won this because I'm one of dream fans who wanna see unknown live stage. The melody, the lyrics, unknown won
Lol! Now it shows he’s the reason why NCT Dream musics are tanking. His choice are like this.
Haechan asking each one of the members what song they like at the beginning of the video, waiting for everyone to share their opinions before sharing his, and explaining clearly his perspective are all so admirable of him. He even consider Breathing and Box because these songs are suggested by others despite Carat Cake being his personal choice. When he was conflicted with the performance for Unknown, he specifically asked how they would interpret it. Even made the others laugh (esp CL and JM) along the way and even had fun vibing around with RJ. When JS had a thought he listened and explained to him camly how people watch shows nowadays. In turn, JS agreed with him. I love also how Haechan carries himself with so much knowledge and confidence. People see it as something bad goodness, we need more people like him who are straightforward and goal-driven. And no, it doesn't make him shallow that he's after trends/virality of the song. He is so sure of Dream's abilities and wants to introduce the group to a larger audience. His target is the general public. That doesn't make him less of a person or a dream member just because he didn't pick a "dream-coded" song. He just had a different perspective and again, he's so smart for that. At the very end, he offered a truce with that "give up" statements and wants them all to vote and accept the results. After which, he properly said goodbye and even bowed to which the staff said thanks to him. Haechan, you did well. Thank you also for moving forward from this meeting and doing your best performing Unknown. Your Unknown fancams have the most number views because we see how diligent you are with your work. Thank you for your ideas and good job, Fullsun! ❤
Mark and Haechan's opinions are actually both good, Mark sees it from Sijeuni's point of view so he wants Dream's identity, while Haechan sees it from a non-fan's point of view too. Haechan wants non-fans who are curious to continue taking part in the challenge of his song continuing to go viral. And this time I'm on the Heachan team because now it's the dance challenge era
I'm actually on Mark's team bcs I want to continue enjoying Dream's music, their original music what they love, not just to chase some clout or to go viral. I don't want them to become just like other groups with no identity and only chasing popularity, I don't want DREAM to lose their uniqueness
Im on Haechans side
Fans are already loyal, so lets get new people into the fandom
Unkown is not very likeable as a song
@@subakuyu2608you make no sense because NCT DREAM its literally based on a trend: selling youth.
마크야 의견 안 굽히고 열심히 어필해 줘서 고맙따... 다른 애들 말도 이해하고 맞는 말인데 팬 입장에서는 커플곡으로 비슷한 느낌보단 다른 느낌을 보고 시픔
언노운으로 정한 거 진짜 잘한 거라고 생각함..시즈니는 아니지만 엔드림 노래 좋아하는데 그게 마크가 말하는 것처럼 항상 ’노래 좋은 거 있다‘ 라는 의견 밀고가서 그런 거 같다. 엔드림 노래 주에 특히 위영, 오르골, 헬로퓨쳐, 위고업 등등 좋아하는데 언노운 멜로디 좋아서 맨날 듣게됨
드림이 인기 있는 이유는
헬로우 퓨쳐, 브로큰멜로디, 비트박스, 고래 같은 청춘 즐겁고 노래가 좋은 느낌이 있어서다
마크가 정말 대중의 느낌을 잘 알고있다
마크가 드림에 대한 메타인지력이 높은 듯....
그게 확실히 드림만의 느낌이긴 해
그리고 이런거 볼 때마다 느끼는건데 마크가 진짜 리더가 맞다..
나도 이런 리더 있는 팀에서 일하고싶다..
I agree with Haechan, he is very smart with ideas that other people don't even think of, you are great Haechan I'm waiting for your solo
스무디는 'NCT'스러운 언노운은 'DREAM'스러움을 보여주는 좋은 선택인거 같음
와 이거다
The fact that Unknown verse went to viral already since Mark and haechan teaser.
The beat, melody, and lyrics is so healing .
Like we got a hug from NCT dream.
Yessss!!
if i were sm, i’d give everything to mark on a golden platter. his dedication is not a one-time thing, his attitude is admirable. he didn’t laugh or mock, he professionally stood on his ground. you could tell the difference. he deserves so much better 🫂
you read my mind! he's so diplomatic in dealing with it and yet very firm! Truly amazing!
YES ABSOLUTELY!!🥹🥹
Seriously he seemed so calm even when everyone was against his idea.he didn't show his frustration or get angry .he always keeps calm
Yes, i couldn't agree more
If i were SM i will give everything to Mark. You can see His capable,his talent, his attitude, his humble
He is deserves better.
@@happypeeingdoyoungwhat your not getting is mark is dreams leader of 8 years, ge definitely thinks of these things more than everyone else, so yes he thought of the marketing wich is why he chose unknown, go look at the comment and see how much people enjoyed the performance they just had with unknown, breathing was boring and wound it leave a powerful impact, box could have been a good choice too, but it was to similar to to smoothie, he wanted something youthful and unknown fit that. Above anything mark doesn’t care for marketing, he doesn’t want nct dream to lose that dream feel, he was right to choose unknown
in this world, while everyone is chasing trends and popularity, leader Mark stands strong for the originality and message of his group’s songs. GREAT LEADER
Ikr
He is so admirable
originality beats popularity for me, id rather listen to songs that arent catered to only streaming
I love how humble and down to earth he is
Super agree!!! It's not always about chasing the trends and what's popular considering the fact that trends tend to change quickly.
@@justalittlesane💚
마크도 말 너무 잘하고 팬들의 니즈가 뭔지 잘 아는데 해찬이도 대중파악능력이 진짜 뛰어나다... 애들 모니터링 엄청 많이 열심히 하는구나
마크는 고집이 있기보다는 자기 일에대한 확신과 팀이 가진 고유색과 방향성에 대해 정확히 이해하고 있기때문에 힘있게 설득할수있는거임...이게 리더의 자질이고.
단순한 고집이 아니라는게 드림대장답고 멋있음!
여기서 마크 고집쟁이로 생각하는 사람 1도 없을거에요 걱정마요 💚💚다들 한마음 ㅋㅋ
@@쨩-j6f 그렇다고 하기엔 오늘 엠카 사녹에서 마크가 시즈니 반응을 봤는데 자기 똥꼬집이라 그랬다고 한거 봤다그래서요 물론 진짜 시즈니들은 안그러겠죠!😢 마크야 좋은말만봐 짖짜 아무도 그렇게 생각안해
@@iliiilllllililiii 헐 몰랐네요 ,, 아니 의견 피력을 똥고집이라고 하다니 그럼 다른멤버말만 들어주는게 리더인가 .. 마크 상처받지말길 ㅠ
@@쨩-j6fwow ah.u afraid that mark is hurt,so for nctzen it ok to bully Haechan in comments sections because he disagrees in song choice.nctzen are so double standards lah.
솔직히 시즈니 입장으로도 봤을 때 드림이들이 수록곡이 엄청 예뻐서 뜬게 더 크긴 하지…. 모든 노래가 정말 좋긴 하지만! 내 친구들도 헬로퓨처가 뭐임? 하면서 오르골은 알고 맛은 뭐임? 하면서 고래는 또 앎…. (슬프당…..) 그만큼 노래가 이쁘니까 뜬건데 마크가 진짜 똑똑한 거임 팬들을 위해서 대중들을 위해서 예쁜 노래를 생각하고 의견을 낸거니까 드림이들이 마크를 믿고 따르는 이유를 알겠음 마크 의견 잘 따라주는 드리미들도 너무 멋져 이번 활동도 행복하게 하자 사랑해💚
진짜..
수록곡도 유명하고 오르골도 틱톡 바이럴되면서 잘된거맞는데 헬퓨는 ㄹㅇ 머글도 알던데요..남자 아이돌 안좋아하는 제 남사친이나 여사친들도 드림노래 중에 아는 몇 안되는 곡 중에 헬퓨랑 맛 있더라고요 엔시티 좋아한다고 하니까 스몰토크로 자기 헬퓨 좋아한다고 칭찬했었음 음원성적도 맛이랑 헬퓨가 더 좋았구 수록곡 좋은것과 별개로 후려치는건 이해가 안됨.. 특히 헬퓨는 넘나 이즈리스닝인데
@@리포트-o2d모르는 사람들도 은근 많아요 제 주변만 해도 그렇구요
3:39 진짜 이게 맞음 일이칠이 추구하는게 약간 그런 특이한?노래로 바이럴 느낌이고 드림은 대중성이지
@@리포트-o2d 정말요?? 저는 제 친구들 모두가 모르더라구요…. 그리고 저는 절대 헬퓨나 맛 등 타이틀을 깎아내릴 의도가 전혀 없었습니다😿 전 엔시티의 모든 음악을 좋아하고 사랑해요…. 스밍도 항상 돌리구요!! 제가 오해의 소지를 만들었네요ㅠㅠ 죄송합니다 우리 이번 컴백도 같이 힘내요!!
oh leader mark, we love you so much. when the teaser with ‘unknown’ dropped, a lot of people started using it on tiktok. the song is easy on the ears, the lyrics are inspiring too 🫂
Exactly!!!!!! 🥺
unknown is a completely ripoff of into the the unknown (frozen) I feel uneasy about this
For real it was my favourite and I was just waiting for the comeback just to listen to it more than the title track
and you're commenting this, why?@@attimeskames1462
마크는 드림의 방향성에 대해 되게 잘 이해하고 확고한 것 같음
해찬이는 시류를 읽고 본연의 팀 색을 잃지는 않는 선에서 그거에 맞춰서 유연하게 맞춰가려는 것 같고 ㅜㅜㅜ
둘이 어느부분에 더 중점을 두느냐만 다르지 너무 맞는 말만 해서
마크가 말하면 이게 맞지... 하다가 해찬이 얘기에 이게 맞긴해... 이러고있음
언노운한거 진짜 잘 한 선택임. 당장에 멜론 댓들 들어가보면 스무디 말고 언노운이 미니의 타이틀이었어야 이 앨범의 마무리가 완벽했었다라는 반응부터 일단 팬들도 언노운을 가장 좋아함. 숨을 커플곡으로 했으면 캔디때 졸업과 너무 겹치고 박스를 택했다면 디기리와 겹쳤겠지. 언노운같은 커플곡 단 한번도 없었음.
100% agreeeeeee with mark. Dream music identity is something hopeful, if not always bright but definitely easy listening. If dream change their sound to kind a more “neo” sound i don’t think there is a specific different between dream and 127 sound.
100% agree. When I heard smoothie, I think its too 127 coded , neo coded . Unknown is the one that have dreamies vibe the most
That's absolutely right. I'm so agree with you too.. Imagine if Dreamies suddenly goin neo or futuristic era like 127 does, how the world of fans could explain? How?? I was really amazed how insisted and determined of Mark keep his fave b-side song till get confirmed to be perform as couple song.. Ah love that❤
Agreee. When I first time listen to Smoothie I was like 'oh kinda reminds me about 127' . For me personally, Box could be better tittle song than Smoothie for Dream.
@@nursyahidah9360 i agree but i lovee smoothie.i honestly keep it over the lather.
Haechan's solo will be amazing because his ideas are brilliant
LOUDER GURL 📢📢📢
For real like I'm even more confident
Holo let's gooo
@@annetterenthlei let’s keep manifesting holo 🕯️🕯️🕯️
Yeah. He's gonaa be so strong with his own ideas
And SM wont release Martini blue..
Unknown 은 노래를 듣자마자 무대가 궁금해지게 만드는 매력이 있음… 커플곡으로 선정되서 너무 기쁠뿐이다ㅠㅠ
이마크 넌 진짜 최고다 .. 🤤 언노운 끝까지 밀고가줘서 너무 고마워 정말 언노운은 정말 대중이 들어도 너무나 좋은 노래여서 드림이 이때까지 해왔던 커플곡의 연장선일 수 있는 거 같음 타이틀은 타이틀대로 수록곡은 수록곡 바이브로 맛집임을 보여주는 … 🤩🤩
만약 언노운이 아니라 다른 곡이 되었다면(물론 다 너무 좋지만) 이 비하인드 보면서 정말 언노운 무대를 못 본다는게 정말 너무 아쉬웠을 거 같음
“we want to be the group with good songs, not good performances.”
Mark is very smart, good songs are enjoyed by even non-fans. A great leader
드림 회의 너무 오랜만이다 진짜...😢
앞으로 이런 짜잘짜잘한 비하인드 많이 올려주세요ㅠㅠ!!
너무 건강하고 멋있는 토론이다. 웃고 즐기면서도 각자의 의견을 개진함에 망설임이 없고, 서로에게 경청하면서도 자신의 의견과 부딪히는 지점을 끝까지 얘기해나가는게 너무 건강한 대화방식임. 단체얘기도 이러려나? 너무 궁금하다
엔시티드림에 빠지게 된 계기가 오르골-고래였음. 어떻게 남돌 노래가 이렇게 가사도 멜로디도 몽환적이면서 좋지?라는 생각이 곧 드림의 장점이라 생각함. 사실 타이틀도 너무 센 것 말고 그런 쪽으로도 갔으면 좋겠어ㅠㅠ
수록곡 맛집이란 타이틀을 지켜주는 이마크…. 널 어떻게 안 사랑하냐.. 그리고 편하게 서로의 의견 얘기하는 이런 팀 분위기 너무 사랑해요….
mark's leadership and his clarity of musical vision - and what defines dream - is absolutely on display here. SO impressive!! SO articulate and thoughtful!! let Mark run the company already!!!!!
when Mark speaks, you better listen ya'll! he's not an ace for nothing. He spits facts remember?? hohoo!
Mark understands that chasing a cheap tiktok trend will ruin the group! Music should be about art, not quick hits! Unknown is the only song that sounds like NCT Dream’s unique signature sound with its melodies and soothing harmonies.
I really agree with mark. Unknown is gives like a support? Like we know life is hard and that's okay bcs everyone do. And we need music like that for this hard life.
Mark is really know the market
I agree with Mark. Unknown is the song that shows who Dream is and it’s easy listening. I think the public will love it as well. I like Breathing and Box as well but I think Box should be saved for concerts. TDS3 here we goooo!
It’s my favorite song from the album too ehe.
100% agree with this. BOX is definitely for TDS3
Absolutely agree 😁😁
Unknown is my first fav too 2nd fav is breathing, I pray will be UNKNOWN 😅😅. then finally uri leaders know what we want
unknown is a completely ripoff of into the the unknown (frozen) I feel uneasy about this
역시 마크가 뭔가 크게 봤을때 뭘 추구해야하는지 알고 있고 그걸 강요하지는 않지만 자신의 의견을 계속해서 포기하지 않는게 좋다. 난 마크의 의견이 좋다고 생각함. 다른 멤버들 보면 그냥 그 곡 자체로 꾸밀 수 있는 점을 보고 있지만 마크는 그걸 넘어서 시즈니에게 또 대중에게 어떤 이미지를 심어 주고 싶은지에 대해서도 잘 이해했다고 생각함.
그냥 마크와 해찬이 모두 팀에 꼭 있어야 하는 멤버들이고 각자 방향성과 추구미가 달라도 무작정 자기 의견을 우기려 들지 않고 논리적으로 최선을 다해 설득하되 투표 결과에 승복하는 것도 멋있고 그냥 그 어떤 드림의 영상보다 이 영상이 너무 애들이 음악과 이 일에대해 얼마나 진심인지 알 수 있어서 너무 보기 예쁘다❤
Mark truly understand what NCT Dream needed as a group, and also what the fans want. I am so thankful to Mark for defending 'Unknown' with his whole life (we can visibly see how stressed he was hahah). To Haechan and Jeno i am sorry babes, but Mark was right
마크 의견이 너무 좋다.. 분명 타이틀이 주는 느낌이나 앨범의 컨셉을 이어가는 것도 중요하지만 결국 오래가는건 팀의 정체성이라 생각해서.. 마크가 가장 대중이나 팬이 생각하는 드림의 이미지를 잘 파악하고 있는 거 같음
애초에 내가 드림 입덕했던 계기가 드림은 수록곡 맛집
thank you mark for being this passionate about unknown. I truly believe that’s the best decision! can’t wait to see the final result at the music shows! Good luck
이거 이마크 입덕영상인가ㅜㅠㅠㅠ마크가 진짜 머싯는게 뭐냐면 막 강하게 밀어부치는것도 아닌데 끝까지 조곤조곤 포기안하고 설득해내는점이 진짜 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ나도 언노운이야 마크야😊
ㄹㅇ 리더인데도 책상쾅쾅 치거나 굴복하하거나 책상밑으로 들어가라거나 폭력적이지 않아서 좋아요
@@쨩-j6f 아니 맞말이긴한데 대체 어느 리더를 보신 거예요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
haechan is always right! im amazed he knows the industry so well. i bet his solo will be huge bcs not only he knows what hes doing, he also has a clear vision of what he wants to achieve!
마크 역시 드림의 대장 답다 의견 하나하나 소중하고 진심이 느껴져 대박이다 팬들이 원하는거 다알고 수용할려하네 괜히 리더가 아니다
일반 대중의 입장으로 마크의 의견에 동의함 nct라는 그룹 자체를 몰랐을때 그냥 흘려 듣다가 고래를 듣고 이건 누구꺼지? 찾아본 기억이 있음. 드림은 멜로디 좋은 곡 꼭 유지하길 바람.
Mark's deep understanding of music and his profound grasp of Dream's themes and messages truly resonate. It's reassuring that as a leader, he transcends the superficiality of trends. In a society where conformity often prevails, it's inspiring to witness his steadfast commitment to preserving Dream's identity. We truly appreciate a thoughtful and well-articulated man 🙌🫶
@@ghnkv don’t blame Mark! The bside doesn’t matter. At the end of the day if NCT Dream tanks it’s because all the members chose a bad title track. Smoothie right now is tanking on melon and NCT Dream isn’t even eligible for nomination on inkigayo. Having Box or Carat Cake as the promoted bside wasn’t going to save the Smoothie comeback
@@TeresaCamilleThey’re tanking cause of gheir music and that meeting explained why they produce low quality music. And Dreamzen overhyping and overpraising Mark should realized their precious Mark was just so lucky SM favored him. This kind of music really sucks
@@ghnkv Mark confirmed that all of Dream voted for Smoothie to be the title track after months of listening to other options. Blame all of them for their poor selection then, don’t blame Mark
The fact that Mark’s Unknown verse went viral haha, he really knows what’s best for the group and combines it with what the fans want! It was really interesting to see how well versed he is within the industry as well! He is very clever in the way he aims to balance artistry and the commercialization of a song! Mark truly is the best leader!!!🥰💚
마크최고 최고의리더..메인인 스무디로 엔시티스러움을 다 보여주고 커플곡은 대중성을 잡아주시는게 너무 좋은 것 같아요..
마크가 드림은 퍼포먼스도 중요하지만 노래가 좋은팀
Mark looks forward as a team first
He wants 7Dream to acknowledge a good song equal to a good performance
Thank you Mark for being leader of NCT dream.
You are the best leader.
I’m grateful for Mark for rly rooting for UNKNOWN. It’s THE SONG that really speaks to, not just the fans, but also to people who are going through struggles in life. We live in a society where superficial desires come first, and UNKNOWN is definitely the song that brings us back to the reality that in the end, we’re just humans and that we need to really be strong for ourselves and to lift each other up. I would even go as far as to say that this song is the HEART of the mini album. Mark is definitely right for saying that the fans will love this song 🥹 WE ALL DO 🥹🥹🥹
It’s boring 😭
@@YasseFlippit's the most interesting one for me😭😭
@@YasseFlipp it's my favorite song among the album. It has special place in my heart, it heals and motivate me.
All song is great! But i prefer BOX to be couple song 😂
@@YasseFlipp then just say you hate NCT Dream and find them boring. Unknown is the only song that sounds like NCT Dream’s signature sound! It’s beautiful and unique in kpop. They shouldn’t compromise their unique identity for a fleeting TikTok hit
@@lilacflare Nobody said they had too babe and no I don’t dislike NCT dream. Your assumption of that doesn’t change my reality.
Oh Mark i hope you know FANS ARE CHEERING that you won this couple song battle lol. UNKNOWN was so loved by fans (w/ it's meaning & knowing 7Dream by heart) it's soooo good! We love you Mark, thank you for fighting for unknown! Our leader🥹🥹🥹
As expected from Leader Mark! He made strong points here, I completely agree with him.
i'm so happy mark fought for unknown with everything he had. it's my favourite track on the album and it made me so happy when i learned they were gonna promote it alongside smoothie. the entire album is absolutely incredible so i would've liked any of the other tracks but unknown just has that special something about it
마크가 진짜 825% 맞는 얘기하고 있네. 엔시티에서 드림이 가져갈 수 있는 정체성이 무엇인가 생각해보면, NCT의 네오함(독특함)을 잃지 않으면서도 조금더 대중에게 다가가기 쉬운 곡들을 발표한다는 느낌이거든. 그러기 위해서는 드림이 내는 앨범에 이런 좋은 노래들이 있어요 하고 알리는 게 중요함. 마크 말이 다 맞아요. 127의 색은 충분히 선명해졌기 때문에, 지금은 NCT 내부에서의 드림의 정체성을 확고하게 보여줘야 할 중요한 시기임.
리더는 괜히 리더가 아니다…. 맑끄리 언노운 진짜 고마워………….. 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻 다른 후보들보다 언노운이 진짜 오래 편하게 들을 수 있어서 더 좋다구우…
I am so glad mark fought for unknown. It really has the dream vibe and i'm sure alot of people would like the song
Thank you haechan for recomendation the carat cake😋💚
Mark's persuasion game is STRONG. Sometimes I'm still in awe of how charismatic and powerful he is as a leader.
마크가 확실히 리더다 ,, 팬들의 니즈도 정확히 파악하고있고 언노운은 팬들이 정말 다 좋아할 거라는 확신을 가지고 말하는 것도 너무 대단하다고 생각핰,,, 마크야 고마워요 ,,언노운이 커플곡인 거 알면서 봤지만 언노우,,,ㄴ 언,,,,노운,,,,,,,언,,ㄴ,,ㅗ운,,,,, 하면서 봤다 ,,,,,,,
i'm 100% agree with mark !! unknown is such a healing song not only for fans but everyone who gone through hard time :)
haechan knows how to make nct dream more known and his marketing minds really 😮 good job haechan!!!
고래로 드프가 됐고 ANL이 최애곡인 사람으로서 마크의견에 감사함,, 다들 생각은 다를지라도 드림이라는 팀을 위해서 의견 내주고 하는거 너무 멋있다 ! 드림도 스엠도 여기 댓글들 많이 모니터링해주시길 🥹
lee haechan have leader vibes ❤ love when he actually share his idea not like follow the majority!!
100% agree with Mark. THANK YOU MARK LEE FOR SERVING US WITH UNKNOWN!!! The whole world needs to hear Unknown as it gives positive vibe everytime we hear it. 7dream im rooting for you always, please always be healthy and happy, babies
honestly both sides are just right. box defo has THAT impact that can influence even non fans but unknown is a dream song. nct dream has a distinct melody and unknown is one of it. thank u leader mark
Mark lee
I want to truly happy
I know how hard to being a leader of NCT dream.
I want you freely do whatever you want to do.
Make your own story, own color, own identity. I know you will nailed it.
Idk i just sad that Mark fighting alone for the team. I'm just sensitive for Mark
Because he is the most hardwork , he work in many unit since debut so he has long time physical fatige enough. i just want him to freely and happy to work in 7dream. i just want 7dream understand his status just trust and follow the leader. Mark who always devote himself for 7dream the most.
마크야 팬들의 마음을 너무 잘 알아줘서 고마워….
스무디가 드림색이 아니라는말에 오백번 고개 흔드면서 공감했어…
내가 헬퓨를 보고 “우와 이게 남돌 노래라고???” 하면서 빠져 듣다가 입덕했거든ㅜㅜ
나같은 사람 진짜 많을거야ㅑ
드림만의 청량함 다시 보고싶어…ㅜㅜ
i appreciate how mark kept his calm and tried explaining why they should do unknown again and again 😭
Haechan so ace for music i think, cause he can fell music so nice 🤍😋
마크 말에 정말 공감…나는 개인적으로 커플곡은 타이틀이랑 아예 다른 분위기가 좋음ㅜ컨셉이 좀 겹치는 곡은 마크 말대로 스무디(타이틀)에서 다 보여줘야 함!! 이번 뿐만 아니라 앞으로도 이런 댓글 보고 참고해줘 얘두라,,127도 글코,,,그리고 드림만의 색깔 계속 가져가야 하는 거 너무 맞는말이야,,
그럼에도 불구하고 아이덴티티를 이어가고자 한 마크의 설득은 너무 똑똑하고 섬세하다고 느껴짐...
이번 타이틀 너무너무 좋고 신선한데 그만큼 정말 낯설기도 함. 새로운 시도는 기존의 색깔이 사라질 것을 우려하는 사람들이 늘 있는 법이고 어찌 보면 팀의 아이덴티티가 흐려질 수도 있음. 마크는 이런 우려를 해소시키기 위한 영리한 선택을 한 거고~~!! 마크야 언노운 사랑해줘서 고마워요♡
언노운 음방을 보니 해찬이 제노의 말이 이해가 되네ㅎㅎㅎ마크의 의도는 백번 맞지만 그 의도를 실현시켜주기엔 언노운이 조금 부족한거 같기도 하다 안무나 의상이 너무 심심했어ㅠㅠㅠㅠ드림 스텝들 열일해주세요ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
마크 정말 팬잘알이구나 박스 너무 좋아하는데 그래서 커플링곡으로는 아님 후속곡이나 더블 타이틀이면 모르겠는데 그게 아니면 일단은 타이틀은 스무디니까 무대에서는 스무디가 제일 돋보여야 하는데 앞에서 비슷한 박스 질러버리면 스무디가 주인공처럼 안보일거 같음
9:56 마크 말대로 스무디 너무 조은데 이게 드림 색이었나?? 하면서 듣고있는데 언노운은 하...ㅜㅜ 이거지예.. 이럼서 들음 마크 잘했어요 😊
at the end of the day yall are just mad that haechan was right, calling him names like stubborn and shit when he was still professional about it, idk if you people forgot that this is a job that needs to search for success too
마크가 드림의 아이덴티티를 장기적으로 내다보면서 큰 그림을 그린듯. BOX 나 숨 Carot Cake도 다 좋긴 하지만 여태까지 드림이 시드니들과 대중들에게 동시에 사랑 받은 곡들 생각해보면 확실히 UNKNOWN이 결이 비슷함. 타이틀에서 집중적으로 퍼포먼스 보여주고 커플곡은 Unknown 기억에 남을만한 예쁜 멜로디로 각인시켜주는 게 대중들이 드림은 수록곡이 좋다는 인식을 심어줘서 앨범 나오면 찾아듣게되는 루트로 만들어가는 갈 수 있음. 팬들은 앨범나오면 다 듣기 때문에 이번에는 커플곡이 아닐뿐 드림의 정체성은 그대로 가져갔네 생각하겠지만 대중들은 사실 프로모션 들어가는 곡들만 듣는게 대부분이기 때문에 앨범에 고래, 오르골, Broken Melodies 이랑 비슷한 결의 곡이 있더라도 이번에는 고래같은 노래 없네 싶은 생각이 들 수 있음. 그러면 거기서 대중들이 인식하는 드림의 음악적 정체성이 삐끗 할 수 있다고 생각함. 일관성을 가져가야 대중들이 수록곡을 찾아듣게 만들 수 있을테니까. 이번에 프로모션 비디오 반응만 봐도 UNKNOWN이 젤 반응 좋았음. 개인적으로도 처음 듣고 오르골이 좀 더 얼반 느낌으로 세련되지면 이런 느낌이지 않을까 싶었어서 제일 기대한 곡이었음. 마크같은 리더랑 일해보고 싶다는 생각이 들만큼 이번 미팅은 무대 아래에서 어떤 생각을 가지고 작업하는지 엿볼 수 있어서 진짜 좋았음.
와 마크 객관성 통찰력 대박이다
진짜 언노운 노래 이지리스닝에 감성적이라서 대중픽 받을거같은 유일한 노래라 무조건 언노운되길 바랬음
트친들도 다 언노운 제일 좋아하더라
Honestly, I agree with what Haechan said... maybe Unknown is an easy listening song... but Carat Cake is more fun and suitable as a challenge
i am 100% with mark on this one i am so glad he won this battle sorry babies but nct dream has to have a good kind of bright song as a couple song ‼️
also i think contrast is very important for couple and title song i too want to see box but there'll be no contrast.
unknown is a completely ripoff of into the the unknown (frozen) I feel uneasy about this
@@attimeskames1462 it really is not 😭 both have very different sound and i am pretty sure the phrase into the unknown is a homage to the frozen song
@@user-zt9ok4sk9x homage? 😂😂 it’s a ripoff
@attimeskames I don’t think Disney owns the words ‘into the unknown’ 😂😂
해찬이 말도 너무 맞말이고 영리하고 전략적임
근데 마크는 좀 장기적으로 그룹 정체성에대해 고민해서 얘기하는 느낌? 리더는 리더고 멤버들도 리더말 이해해서 듣고 잘 따라준거같음
해찬이 캐럿케잌 챌린지 찍어주세요 타이틀 커플곡만 챌린지 찍는다는게 어딨어🤭
드림이 꼭 알아줬으면 좋겠는게 사실 드림이 정말 어릴 때 데뷔하기도 했고 컨셉 자체도 굉장히 어렸기 때문에 성장한 모습이나 강렬한 모습을 보여주고 싶다는 마음도 이해가 가고 어느정도 동의하는 바임! 그렇지만 아이돌 그룹이기에 그룹의 색을 분명하게 가져가는게 정말 중요하다고 생각함 드림은 청량+힙함+대중적인 멜로디 가 특징이라고 생각하는데 이걸 절대 잃지 않아줬으면 좋겠음 그런 맥락에서 이번 앨범에서 그래도 멜로디가 가장 확실하고 편하게 들을 수 있는 Unknown이 채택된 게 아닐까 싶음 꼭 버퍼링 ISTJ 스무디처럼 강한 노래와 퍼포먼스가 아니더라도 충분히 성장한 모습 멋진 모습 보여줄 수 있음👍🏻 드림은 실제로 많이 컸고 연차도 꽤 됐고 그래서 이때 보여줄 수 있는 밝음은 데뷔 때와는 또다른 성숙한 밝음이라고 생각하기 때문에☺️ 아무튼 드림이 이렇게 팀에 열정을 갖고 고민하는 모습에 또 한번 반했다 한 명도 빠짐없이 모두 진지하게 의견내고 회의하는 모습이 정말 보기 좋았고 인상깊었어😃 앞으로도 이런 컨텐츠 자주 내주길!
That's my leader markkk.. im so glad he appealed unknown so much because I totally agree with him
unknown is a completely ripoff of into the the unknown (frozen) I feel uneasy about this
8:37 mark was going thru it 😅 aww. I really like seeing their decision making process. Very neato 💚💚
This mans was straight up PRAYING like "God please let them choose Unknown"
right after his trusted right-hand man chose the opposite 😭😭 he definitely was disappointed 😭
자꾸 언노운이 그만큼 좋은 곡이냐고 그러는데ㅋㅋㅋ마크도 분명히 언급해요 고래만큼은 아니라고..그치만 지금 발매된 수록곡들 중에서 골라야하는 거고 그 중에서 언노운이 그 이미지를 보여줄 수 있는 가장 최선의 픽이라는 걸 얘기하고 있는 거 아닌가 그리고 언노운이 호불호 적은 곡이라는 말은 멜론 차트 보고오시면 이해되실듯
에셈은 아이돌이라면 타이틀은 무조건 센걸해야지라는 구시대적인 마인드가 박혀있는것 같음 그 생각이 아티스트들한테도 계속 주입되는거 같고......마크 말대로 드림의 무기는 퍼포먼스가 아니라 노래임 그걸 알면서도 타이틀은 계속 센걸 가져가면 그건 타이틀이 아니라 그냥 버리는거 아닌가....?제발 가장 잘하고 팬들대중이 원하는걸 1순위로 보여줬으면. 난 아직도 고래가 1집 타이틀이었어야 했다고 본다.......
빅동의 고래는 진짜 명곡
이게 타이틀이었음 쩔었을거같아요
배기진스가 반응이 좀 왔어서 그거 생각하고 a&r팀이 비슷한 결의 스무디를 타이틀로 민듯...
오 이거다 타이틀이 문제야 ㅠㅠ bside들이 다 좋으니까 싸움이나지 ㅋㅋ
고래가 타이틀은 아님 왜 아이돌한테 퍼포먼스를 버리라는건지 해외투어도는 애들인데요
i love that they are showing this. dreamies are always serious when it comes to their work. and im happy that they allowed us to see this side of them! and i respect mark as a leader so much! he always thinks for the team and czennies
i'm not even a big nct dream fan or anything, i have some songs of theirs that i like and i just stumbled across this video somehow but i want to say mark really got a lot of respect from me for this. he went into this knowing what the best option was and was able to succeed in convincing the majority but the most important part to me is how he's focused more on the quality of the music that reflects their career up until now than what would make a few seconds of the song go viral or the performance, which is already more of a important factor for the title song. i really respect that a lot, as someone who values music quality over trendiness and who knows how nowadays many groups don't care about the quality and are more drawn to making something go viral, and i really love how he did not waver at all and his beliefs and trust towards his music is so strong. i just listened to unknown and it's a great song, i'm 100% with him (and now i'm gonna go play the song multiple more times)
This ^
you put so well. In a time where almost every bg is focused more on performance and virality, the boldest thing you can do is sticking to the fundamentals: delivering a musically good song. And that’s why ppl are drawn to dream, and why it’s important to lean on this identity so as to separate yourself from the competition. mark has different musical opinions when it comes to his own solo music, but hes clearly thinking about the group here, which is why he’s a brilliant leader
마크 하는말 진짜 너무 공감되서 말할때마다 맞아 맞아 공감하면서 보게됨 언노운 하는거 알고있는데도 조마조마했음.. 스무디가 새로운 도전인만큼 드림의 정체성을 이어갈 언노운을 무조건 해야함!!!!! 드림 리더 마크 최고다 고마워