Catholic Reacts to Shia Labeouf's Conversion
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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While Matt was a way in August Shia Labeouf went on Bishop Baron's show to share his conversion to Catholicism. In studying for his role as Padre Pio in an upcoming film, Shia read the Gospel for the first time and was struck by a real encounter with the Lord.
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As someone who ate ice cream, laugh, got silly, had deep conversation, prayed with, attended Mass with him during this time, I can say that his experience is real. For those who are skeptical about his conversion, all I ask in charity is that give his conversion a chance as is not a 1 time moment but a life long journey - just like for all of us. This interview occurred almost 1 year after the start of his journey and its great to see him come a long way. Let as pray for him and for each other so that we all continue to be focused in our Lord. Pace e bene.
God love you.
Alleluia. ! Thank you … my gosh folks aren’t we to celebrate ?
Aaahhh... Thank God someone said this.. its exactly what we dont know or understand.
When a sinner converts, all the heavens celebrate. Let’s cheer him on that he may deepen his faith.
At first I didn't think it was genuine. After watching conversation with Bishop Barron and then his interview with Jon Berenthal, I changed my mind. I can relate to so much of his internal state.
Having converted to Catholicism in 2003 (doing RCIA) I was in a “honeymoon” phase for first 5 yrs + I even contemplated joining an order and did a Masters in Divinity. What I know about this journey is there will be highs and lows. I pray for him that his journey of faith and love will be for his lifetime. His journey reminds me of Mark Wahlberg who did create a life of change and commitment to the Church. God bless Shia and others who are sincerely trying to change and walk with God ❤️
Always highs and lows. Faith sustains us during the lows.
I too am now praying the Rosary daily, pray for me to continue in this PLEASE
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Anyone can convert to Christianity but converting to Catholicism is a whole other thing. I'm so happy for him.
You said it perfectly. 🙏🏽
What are you saying? The only Christian is the Roman Catholic. All the rest are protesters.
anyone can convert to be a catholic to lol as long as you try so i dont really understand this comment
You can be a Christian and follow Jesus our ONLY mediator, or become a Catholic and worship pagan images of dead people and pray to mary who is dead in the grave or mortal old man pope Francis lol 😂
@@sebastianbolt7886 Jesus is our ONLY mediator, Catholic Church = paganism
Thank you for the reminder to be charitable for others when they sin. I am also guilty of dismissing people unreasonably
In that vein, was surprised and amazed to listen to Bishop Barron's joyful Mystery rosary video. Unbelievably beautiful. !!
Pray for us sinners. The base of it all
So am I...
St Pio can and will intervene…prayers for Shia… and all of us!!!
We can only hope this is the real deal, not a phase to deal with stressful events, but either way Shia needs prayers.
He and his wife both. Even if he experiences periods of faltering, I don't think he can ever "unknow" all that he has learned and experienced (knowledge and the faith). It will be a journey, but if they embraces this as a family, and stay connected w prayer, Mass and the other sacraments. and w his Confessor, he will grow in graces. As Fr. Ripperger warns, people (laity and clergy) run into trouble when their prayer life stops.
@@finallythere100 That is true, facts you learn that stay in your head and bug you when necessary. Yes sir-ee.
Shia needs our prayers. He will face spiritual attacks. His testimony was wonderful, coming from such an outside perspective. He was seeing things through completely fresh eyes.
@@CrankyGrandma Yes, I always love the outsider perspectives like this.
I truly believe if a person read’s about padre Pio,(now of course St Pio),there’ll never be the same again. Please watch Following Padre Pio. Also watch the warning or illumination of conscience by Christine Watkins. Then The Papacy can NOT be destroyed. Then Don’t call protestant’s Christian. God bless. Praise Jesus and Mary always!!! Ps nearly forgot please listen to these holy priest’s Fr’s Ripperger,Mark Goring,Bill Casey, Jim Blount, Donald Calloway, and Chris Alar. (Our Lady of Good Success).
I believe he's genuine about his conversion. I could be wrong and perhaps it could be a phase but I believe that Saint Padre Pio's story is powerful enough to convert someone, I believe the Latin Mass is so beautiful and reverent enough to move someone, and that no one is too far out of God's reach. At the same time, I don't think anyone should consider Shia as an authority in any way. I know people that are passionate about the Latin Mass want to prop him up as an example and that could possibly do harm to his ego if he's truly genuine about his conversion.
I love the Latin Mass and I only pray for him!
Actually Jesus' story should be 'powerful enoughto convert someone'.
@@kevinkelly2162 It is, and also all saint's stories too
Shia’s explanation of his experience and power/value he sees in the Latin mass is what is truly opening the eyes of the faithful to explore it once again. I grew up with the Novus Ordo but its sad to see the church divide and scatter its flock by restricting and banning the Latin Mass so much, especially when it is a gateway for so many!
Imagine being that student when the author of the book you're reading shows up 😂 that is actually an incredible story
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God left the light on for me so I'm happy whenever anyone finds their way home. Here's hoping he brings friends to the banquet. God Bless.
‘God left the light on for me’ is a very pretty statement. I hope I remember it
@@Ahnjay_2k Thank you. I try to keep things simple and it was the best way for me to explain it. And now, having that light in my life is making all the difference in the world. 🙏
@@itinerantpatriot1196 🙏 Rex Tremendae Majestatis
I believe with my whole heart that Shia has the spirit moving in him. It shows in his pause. Anyone, not just Shia, will be moved when studying Padre Pio. God has moved thru Padre Pio and saved this poor soul. I do not believe there’s going back for Shia. Even with temptations. God has plans for Shia! 🙏
He leads the most beautiful Rosary I have ever heard in my life. I am in awe every time i hear it. Bishop Robert Barron is a Holy, Brilliant and Compassionate Man of God. (And he did not say that everyone goes to heaven. He said we have the hope that everyone goes to heaven. That is directly out of the Magisterium.)
When I think about Kanye or Shia, James 2:1-13 comes to mind. We should praise God when anyone comes to salvation, but we shouldn't show partiality. I think sometimes we're too quick to either overly judge or overly praise celebrities who profess Christ. As relatively new converts, they will struggle in their faith. Knowing that, we should neither castigate them nor place them on a pedestal.
@CJ P. Exactly. Praise God and pray for them.
I think no matter who they are we should always rejoice when we find God. I was born a catholic and I still have moments of weakness in my faith. We should always remember we are all sinners and we will always struggle with our faith no matter if we just found Jesus or we have been with him all our lives. St Peter did and he was an apostle. God bless this young man on his journey and his struggles in life!
We should encourage in Christ.
@CJ P. That goes without saying.
You guys still believing in fairytales 😂
I watched the whole video of Shia with Bishop Barron TWICE because it was very beautiful to hear his conversion story. Shia was articulate, humbled, and animated. It was quite interesting.
Matt, you have a very valid point with regards to being a bit reserved when it comes to celebrity conversions. I think the best we can do is to pray for these people. Conversion is a long process and needs a lot of help from God, the Holy Spirit, and intercessions from our Lady and the saints in order to stay faithful to our Lord. So praying for them, by the Grace of God, will help them see this through.
I converted after working in an occult store for over 20 years. It's been incredibly lonely. I lost all my friends and have been treated with suspicion in the Catholic Churches I have attended. I tried Protestant Churches and I have to say I was welcomed more warmly. I'm staying with the Catholic Church because a nun I talked about this with told me "You're not there for other people's approval but because you love God." I will never forget her saying that to me.
@@marie22tully10 The nun you met was right. God bless you for staying with the Catholic Church. Just pray the rosary always and ask for Mother Mary's intercession for your problems. You are not alone. God is with us always.
@@deevine9255 Thank you! I really appreciate your reply. I heard about a St. Louis De Montfort consecration to Mary that I am looking into. God bless you!
@@marie22tully10 I'm so sorry that people haven't been welcoming. Please know that I rejoice and thank God that He brought you to the church. I pray that He will bring some holy Catholic friends into your life.
@@christinaschmidt5539 Thank you! I'm meeting some kind, Catholics like you on the internet so that's a start! God bless you 🙏
Pray this is something that sticks with Shia. The pull he states in that interview to the Latin mass is amazing.
Dear Shia, welcome brother and God Bless!
He's not my brother......
Reach out to Shia. He would probably come on.
I love the generosity of heart you mentioned. Beautiful conversation. Loved the experience in Minnesota with the girl reading your book. Love your beard too!
I see the Holy spirit working through Him. ❤Padre Pio pray for us
What I think is most important for Shia was the influence of the Latin Mass. Pope Francis is crazy when he tries to prevent it. Our Latin Mas parish is growing by leaps and bounds; the Novus Ordo churches are decreasing. The Church needs to return to the Latin Mass and retrieve our true identity.
Sorry to “be that guy”, however I’m surprised that there was no mention of one the main reasons why Shia converted, namely the Tridentine Mass.
This is just a clip from a long podcast, it may be in the full thing
He converted for Christ. Not because of the Latin Mass, though it moves him deeply. The whole story is so moving
@@CrankyGrandma I agree, however by his own admission, the TLM played a significant role in his conversion because he felt it wasn’t “trying to sell him something”.
@@BelaMadeira
Exactly right, and it should send a strong message to the Church about the popularity (or rather, lackthereof) of NO rites
@@BelaMadeira He’s just starting his journey though. I hope he reads St. John of the Cross too.
"Our forgiveness is contingent upon us forgiving others. That's why is says FORGIVE US our trespasses as WE FORGIVE OTHERS who trespass against us" - Fr. Stu
Let's all pray for his sake that it is genuine, it lasts, and it keeps him safe. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
At the end of the day, Shia is an actor. A great actor. He was going to be in a movie where he bashes Jorden Petterson. He ONLY left due to a fall out with wife/girlfriend. I hope he isn't playing them as a joke. I would be very careful. He could be doing this for a publicity stunt.
I’m not a fan at all ofBishop Barron, but I can respect him for bringing certain people to Christianity. I hope he becomes more sincere also and not just looking for the lime light.
I think that your reminder to be less judgmental and more loving is so sincere and always a valuable reminder. And it is so true about the "my team" stuff that can happen with celebrities. "Our" team is the wish for all of humanity to come to God and Christ - celebrity does not matter... unless they can reach more people to love the Lord our God.
I can relate to his story in the coffee shop about when I'm tired and my thought patterns. I haven't written any books though. BTW I am very protestant, but I recommend this channel often. The gospel is what is important. And I like pints.
Oh my gosh I can totally relate to the judgement thing! Thank you for articulating 🙏❤️
God be with Shia and his new journey. There's charity in loving our fellow converts. There's also...just getting out of God's way. Lord, you're doing a work here and keep me out of Your way.
#pray&getoutofTheWay
I think it’s genuine from Shia, I recently became a Catholic a year ago and it has been life changing for me internally and spiritually.
Did you sexually and violently assault someone too?
I am Catholic from Santa Catarina (southern Brazil). God continue to give thanks to Shia. A brief message to atheists and protestants: we must want, just as you do, for them to discover the truth of the Church, from the primitive church, the first priests, oral tradition (before the scriptures) and everything else of truth that saves There are still a lot of people today. This is a unique but individual opportunity. It is up to each person to be willing to discover it.
If you haven't watched the entire interview (it's over 1 hour), please do. It's startling. I think I'm guilty of not only judgement, but a true ignorance of the deeply painful lives some others lead. I also watched a secular interview by John Bernthal. It's a raw, uncensored interview, definitely not for children to overhear. The language is strong and shocking at times (at least for me), but I was just stunned by the details of his life before the movie. In his story, I was reminded again of the unfailing love our our God, who meets us where we are. I imagine maybe that's how John the Baptist appeared to many religious faithful of his time- wild, wooly, brazen. Let's be clear, he is not a saint (nor are any of us), but with God's grace... he could be! He will need prayers to grow his faith while battling the Hollywood culture. I know that the Holy Spirit wanted me to hear his story--and that I will be praying for him for a long time. Thanks Matt for your refreshing candor. Your statement about "joining the team" was lovely. Sounds like our good Lord provided you a tender mercy in His reminder of Charity in the coffee shop.
God bless you, Pints. Great story, thanks for sharing. Yes, Barron has the right idea. Remember that it is not for us but for God to judge a soul. Our job as humble Christians is merely to point out the way to salvation. You and I and everyone else get nervous from time to time, but remember God is never nervous, much less in crisis. Keep up the good work!
I listen to what you say about the girl in the cafeteria and I remember the testimony of Juan Manuel Cotelo, a Spanish producer, in which he tells about a day when he sees a woman passing by in front of his car and when he sees how she is dressed he thinks that She is a prostitute and she feels in her heart when the Lord tells her: be careful, she is my daughter. He continues looking at her and judging her and the Lord tells him again: be careful, she is my daughter. It is difficult for us to see others with mercy without judging, without making comments with which we believe we are going to improve their lives, but this is never the case. It is not a simple task; we must ask God for that grace.
Shia more Catholic than Barron, I loved the interview! At least for now, as he is about to face trials 😉
Agree! He will face a lot of trials! But i think he has formidable people around him to help him… the monks in Padre
pio’s monastery, some local priests that helped him and other religious, even Mel Gibson.
As we pray for Shia, lets also pray for his victims, that they may find strength through pain and comfort while their wounds reopened to see their abuser being celebrated for finding religion.
May God comfort and heal them, Amen.
SAY CHRIST IS LORD! JUST. DO. IT!
I agree with you on so many of your points. I have always struggled when we uphold celebrities who are Catholic as these "speakers" of the faith. Yes and amen that we have to look to the saints and their example.
I also agree that we shouldn't use his conversion story for a team's sake. I saw that start to happen in certain circles after the interview and I was very uncomfortable about that. Mostly because they picked one piece of his conversion story and made it sound like that was the only thing that brought him to the Catholic Church. If you listen to the entire interview, you see that his conversion story was a bunch of different things that ultimately lead him embrace the Catholic Faith not one specific thing.
I can see why people are cynical about his conversion story. I do hope that he did convert because he went through a lot and experienced God through people, liturgy, prayer, and many other ways. It is a beautiful story.
The Spirit that God has placed in me agrees with the Spirit that God has placed in Shia, that we are indeed brothers in Him. Praise God for that! We place our future in His hands. 🙌
God is the greatest teacher if we are willing to listen!
I thought the interview was great. Shia comes across as very genuine. I am happy for him but we need to pray for him. The only thing was it seems he didn't understand why he couldn't receive communion. It takes more than being validly baptized lol! Other than that he is who The Church was created by Christ for. God bless him! Also Matt you made me laugh with your story about the girl in the coffee shop. You are not alone however with your internal judgments. I am guilty too. A good way to combat this is when ever you feel that thought coming on just make the sign of the cross for that person.
Please say a prayer for my husband. He's started reading my copy of your book. It's really been opening his eyes how sinful he has been, but also bringing the abuse he's experienced in front of him. I'm doing my best to walk with him, but I'm feeling stuck in knowing how to help him. I have been encouraging therapy and spiritual direction.
May your husband find peace with God. Amen.
Mama mary pray for him
I love the catch phrase “the team” because that how I feel sometimes and that’s pride. It’s not for the glory of God. Really enjoyed this ❤
I think each of us has some conversion of heart that pushes us towards Christ. His is a little more public since he is an actor. Pray for him that he continues his walk towards our savior. He is no different from any other person.
The interview with the Bishop should be attached to the DVD as an extra!
Shia's life has been insanity, laced with abuses and confusion. The Franciscan brothers brought him in and brought him back to planet earth for awhile through their joy and warmth. This is why something as mundane as being jovial, eating ice cream, and petting cats left a mark on him -- it allowed him to get a glimpse of Heaven. This sort of testimony is incredible, because it reminds us that we may have a solid response to arguments concerning theology and reason, but sometimes, just being a beacon of light makes all the difference.
I think his faith is genuine most people don’t realize how much a celebrity risks when they publicly convert
I was super skeptical as well. He’s an out of the box strange actor. I saw it all as an act. I pray for him and it was good to see him have his first communion.
Our job as Christian’s is to support his conversion, celebrate with him and pray for strength to continue this commitment. The only one who can confirm his salvation is God.
Know who you are, who God is, and never confuse the two.
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I've never heard of this Shia, geezer, but apparently a lot of people have, what's he famous for, I often hear people that're called entertainers that I've never heard of, where I live in England, I hearing on the box on satirical shows like Have I Got News For You, of a family called Cardasian, not sure of spelling, I still don't know who they are and what they're supposed famous for, but who ever this Shia, geezer is and if is genuine in becoming a Catholic or if he already has, then I pray that he gets filled from head to toe with the Holy Spirit, and may God bless him,
You skipped the comments on the Latin Mass, and his views on the Guitar Mass…
Great reminders of the love that Our Lord would have had with nonbelievers that came in his path.
I watched Bp Barron's interview with Shia Labouf and I thought the insight he expressed was an authentic experience of God's love or better an authentic encounter of God's presence in others, and in the scriptures; the body of Christ, His church. It was close to my own experience during my sister's conversion. It was proximity. Grace fell on me because I was standing next to her when she received it. It's God and His gentle power to touch us the way He said He would. You just fix your heart and mind and eyes on Me and let Me do the rest. And let Him have His way and His love spills out on those we encounter.
So thankful I saw this today. 👍🙏🏼❤️✝️🕊💪☝️😀
The Holy Spirit moves in others, in ways we can look at as wild or inauthentic. Rather than criticize a wild man for his wild conversion (metaphorically speaking), rather than feeling the punch of jealousy in your spirituality, let the Lord work as the Lord will.
He came for the beggars, the thieves, the murderers, prostitutes, politicians, and tax collectors. He can come to anyone, so stand in wonder of his reach
Thank you for sharing about you judging people sometimes instead of being charitable… I have the same problem!!! I’ll pray for you and hopefully God will help me in this area as well ☺️
LOVE!! watching Matt's face as Shia talks...also YES!!! on my judgementalism especially of people who remind me of "younger me" WHY????
Here’s an idea, let’s just pray for him. And pray for all those who are experiencing a conversion including hopefully, ourselves.
not to put too much weight on your shoulders, but you're one of three Catholics on the internet I trust...Thanks for the great videos
Go Shia!! Two steps forward, one step back. It's a journey for us all no matter if we are cradle Catholics or converts!!
Glad to hear how you struggle with judgement in your head. I ask the Holy Spirit to help me with that struggle all the time.
“Then I heard the voice of the lord, saying whom shall I send ? And whom will go for us ? Then I said. Here am i, send me”
Wow man, that judgment comes from fear bit hit me really hard.
I think it's perfectly fine to be cheering on the individual while at the same time being happy that he won one for the team. I think the more high-profile people who come to Christ, the better.
When did we become the holders of truth and sincerity of someone’s conversion? Who hasn’t fallen in their current state ? Why wouldn’t the deep experience of monasticism, prayer and being present in adoration change someone ? Isn’t that what we profess that Christ is present ? Why wouldn’t that be enough ?
“Look to the saints…” Great advice.
I've always been so impressed at his amazing acting talent and thought he was just given a raw deal in Hollywood. I'm glad he never fit in with the likes of them. I believe he is absolutely authentic in his journey but it is even hard for some of us cradle Catholics to keep immersed in our wonderful faith. He will have more pressure on him, being in the public eye. I pray for him and us all to maintain our journey to sainthood.
I think it's awesome that he converted! It made me really happy. I like his story too, it sounds pretty amazing, and cool! As for the way people dress, I personally believe people should dress nice and respectfully for Mass and for example of they're a woman preferably wear a modest dress to Mass. Outside of Mass if people aren't well dressed or whatever for me it's not really as bad it's just that I see certain outfits as having poor taste. However for places like work or school there should be some level of modesty and dressing nice.
Why is Australia upside down
I am a second generation Japanese American. I challenge anyone to look up Japan's history with Christianity. With that being said the year I found out I was getting a divorce I also found out my wife was cheating on me. That's not to say I was such a good man and I was innocent I had my own guilt and shame as well. But God provides Grace especially for those who are mourning or grieving. That same weak I found out I was getting a divorce I also found out my mom had thyroid cancer in my biological father was dying. It gets even more complicated than that. And I say complicated last year my mom passed away I had surgery to remove two tumors I was laid off and my son quit talking to me. But God provides. God has kept every single promise. Through my own work on my emotional spiritual and physical health I'm learning how to forgive myself which ironically is helping me not judge others so harshly. I've learned to forgive myself often. I've learned to forgive myself everyday. And when I forgive myself everyday God brings empathy to my heart and I'm able to forgive others and see past.
Honestly, I've seen people saying their doubts about him. But I think we ought to pray for him, he honestly seemed very genuine in the interview. But, he needs the prayers of the Church for support (we all do honestly lol).
Matt, your comment about your interior experience when you're not trusting God and start seeing with a critical eye the people around you == helped me to understand my process that I go through - so similar!-
1. not trusting in God's love and providential care .
2. start to get nervous, scared.
3 become more and more judgmental.
4.feel like I have to order the world around me since I'm not trusting God.
5. take it upon myself to say who's in and who's out in my head, lots of judgment.
6. get angry, or rather, cynical, i.e. "This is so ridiculous"
7. head just keeps going round and round in this criticism mode.
I have asked the Lord to help me understand what is going on in my thought processes. Thank you, and Praise God.
Praying
🥺my summer was filled with negative, critical, judgemental thoughts. I've been to confession and pray to leave that behind. I pray I can see people as Father God's children and be more of an uplifter to Jesus. Jesus let me see You in them🙏
You without sin, cast the first stone.
Success is simple. Simple is hard.
Matt, Did you sign the book for the girl in the coffee shop.
So, how come no consideration (a footnote maybe?)and replication of Shia’s feelings about the TLM and how B. Barron juggled his response?
Why is Australia upside down in the background?
I think it might be related to a question that came up about how north and south were first determined and standardized…maybe
Excellent
it's nice for someone with a platform to finally admit that they've used their channel to be judgmental. it's suuuuuch a turn-off and I hope that Matt is genuine when he calls it out in himself.
Friars are not monks, so they do not live in monasteries. Some Franciscan friars, the Conventuals (OFM Conv) live in convents.The Capuchins (OFM Caps) do not typically live in convents but certain friaries are considered convents.
They live in Friaries, I think.
@@lyndavonkanel8603 That's what I wrote: they live in friaries.
@@Rabbithole8 Sorry, it was late when I wrote my comment.
@@lyndavonkanel8603 No problem!
I for one do NOT jump on celebrity band wagon. Simply be prayerful.
Well, at least we know Shia's circumcised. Check out the Sigur Ros music video. Praise Jehovah, Jesus, and All the Irish Saints! 🙏 🤲 ✝️ ✂️
from a PR perspective (lets all be real here) converting to Catholicism or to any religion for that matter, has zero influence in the overal twitter public perception. I think he is being real and this isnt just to get back into Hollywoods graces
Quick question…didn’t Bishop Barron say Hell is empty, or nobody goes to hell? Something along those lines? Thanks for any correction of I’m wrong.
Shia labeauf is a Jew , he is also an actor. These are two red flags that lead me to think that his conversion is not genuine.
I watched the video with Jon Bernthal after his conversion, where he really cursed a lot. Now I know that he's not automatically perfect since he became Catholic, but it's just rubs me the wrong way. anyway, he's just at the beginning of the journey.
Are you one of my fellow Catholics who thinks we have to behave perfectly?
I swear all the time and I'm actively trying to do it less. Have patience for Shia
@@chuckn4851 no I am not, like I said, I'm not expecting him, or any Catholic, to be perfect
I understand where you are coming from. He had a certain swagger or attitude in that show. I think he was just meeting the mood and the dialect of the show. That’s how that show goes. When he sits with the bishop, he straightened up. That’s all it was I think.
He’s in my daily prayers. It’s a great story of a conversion of a troubled soul.
7:00 you were in Mankato? Small world, wish I would've caught you
Why didn't you guys what really got Shia to convert? The orthodox Latin Mass. Surprised you guys didn't comment on it.
OnePeter5 had an excellent piece: What Shia LaBeouf understands and Bishop Barron does Not; despite the “gotcha” title, this article articulates the difference between the vetus and novus orders of the Mass.
Remember we all are sinners, the struggle is real and an everyday battle. He has just started his path to God. Conversión is not a one day thing it is a new way of life
Can you want a person's conversion for both them and the team? Having certain people on the team can bring others onto the team which is what we're called to do.
We only have redemption in Christ 🙏✝️💕
Pray for Shia
I love Padre PIO 💖 I hope they have done a great job. Shia is certainly an amazing actor. Let's not judge him My ex husband has not done any less. Without God we are all not that different
I thought it was a really good video! And what you said about sitting in that coffee shop and how your brain picks people apart. Mine does the same thing ..it's a constant battle. It usually happens in church ..with the way women dress.
Who are we to judge? Are you genuine yourself. The Church is for the sinners, a hospital for sinners. We need to welcome him so he could feel the love of Jesus and Mary.
Cease not to pray.
He was saying the same stuff when he was in "Fury". Hopefully it sticks this time.
Cardinal Pell and Archbishop Phillip Wilson sinned. They are not forgiven....
Listen and watch the interview with Jon Bethnal