this really says how small bits are these days because the NES is about the same size as the playstation 5 and yet the storage cap is an absurd difference. computers like ENIAC that once took over an entire room can now exist as a chip that can fit on your finger. incredible.
i stopped comprehending the scale of this once we hit 64 bytes, and everything after was too difficult to even remotely understand. the mind is not used to large sizes.
@@lollygagger1 no ur brain is a neural network that stores memories not as 1s and 0s indexed by address, but as patterns indexed by more or less a time value. you fill in some details and after a period of time the network converges to an approximation of the original pattern
I just realized the barrels were empty because you couldn't have saved this amount of memory on your computer. Why do you like my comment so much ? I almost never saw a number this big !
Yes you can, by telling : 1 book (of a certain size), stacked by 16, times 27 in a shulker, times 27 in a barrel, times length, times width, times height. This simple calculation corresponds to a petabyte (of the SAME book), but is stores in one comment. But without compression, you effectively can't.
These aren't kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB), gigabytes (GB), or petabytes (PB). They're actually kibibytes (KiB), mebibytes (MiB), gibibytes (GiB), and pebibytes (PiB). The last group are called "binary bytes" because they're all 2^x (oversimplification). The others are 10^x and are what manufacturers label storage as to make their products seem larger than they actually are.
I'm pretty sure all if not most of the sizes in the video, at least at the very start, are sizes that are powers of 2; meaning you would use (KB, MB, GB, TB, PB) and not (KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, PiB). Edit: I'm wrong nvm
You should probably clarify what kenbak was cause it certainly wasn't the first computer when in 1969 a computer literally took men to the moon. You even show the AGC in the video.
I've seen a few of videos tying to communicate scales that go up exponentially like this before. This is the first one that's made me actually somewhat get the jumps of magnitude lol. awesome video.
Because of the limited height of a minecraft world, it is impossible to show cubes with more than approximately 60 million blocks, which is only 60 Megabit or less than 8 Megabyte. To show larger numbers, you have to make things more flat. With one Petabyte, all you would see is an endless flat surface of redstone lamps, even at the highest render distance. In fact, if you create a superflat world in Minecraft with three layers of redstone lamps, the entire minecraft world would contain 10800 Terabits of redstone lamps, or 1,35 Petabyte.
I just realized something it’s possible to make a jukebox to play custom songs or sounds then you could also have a similar block to pixel and make entire movies with sound I’m not going to sleep for a while
that's why outside of embedded programming (and i feel like it won't be like this for long) there's no need to worry about space cost in algorithms complexity analisys. Well that is also unelss you're doing something on 20 terabytes of storage, but i feel like if you're doing that then you're working in an environment where there's plenty more.
That's giving bad programmers freedom to do insanely unoptimized code and then tell you "I don't give a shit, computers are powerful enough nowadays". If you want your software to take less memory (RAM, storage) or be more power-efficient or performant, you obviously have to know your data structures and algorithms at least well enough to make an informed decision. But sadly, the "sacred" art of making your app take slightly less than 100M of space and 600M of RAM because you decided to make it in highly unoptimized Electron instead of putting more effort. Hell, nowadays game studios don't even give a shit about compressing and yet people wonder why DLCs are getting bigger and bigger, I wonder why 🤔
This is amazing, though I would have liked a visual for how much space the amount of blocks that fit in a shulker takes up along with space taken up by shulkers in a barrel.
what a great way to visualize data. After learning about bits and bytes, and the basics of how to use them effectively in minecraft for logical redstone, I tried imagining what 32 GB of ram would look like in minecraft using just redstone and all I could see was my computer breaking down.
Isn't it crazy how the Nintendo 64 has over 1000x more memory than the Apollo 11 guidance computer? And then now it's just crazy how we casually have tens of gigabytes of RAM in our PCs, and much more in storage space.
And programmers are getting lazier and find even more ways for wasting space and memory. As they used to say back in the day: What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away
it doesnt look that insane until you realise that the gigabyte is 1000x the biggest shulkerbox stack shown wich is 1000x the biggest stack of redstone lamps shown😵🤯
I remember back in 2013 or 2014 someone calculated that you need about 5PB of free disc space to store single png picture of whole minecraft map where every block is represented with one pixel
These are all cool and stuff but I think the best thing would be a computer that would like almost work like the nes where u put catridges etc and it processes them
You could just use nbt data to fill a chest with chests, and then put the chests with chests of stored chests into more chests and put the chest filled with chests with chests in it into another chest, and so on
Well now I wanna make a gigabyte out of just redstone lamps Edit: I did the math and it would be a rectangular prism that is 5792 * 256 * 5792 blocks large. I tried to use world edit to load one layer on my 4070 and the game started bugging out. 5 minutes after I started the code execution, I force closed Minecraft and it took 5 more minutes to close. It also took about 3 minutes to fly across one wall at the fastest speed in spectator.
Fun fact, the full size of a minecraft world is 16 PETABYTES(may be more , I don't know from when the data is aka was it taken before 1.17 or after 1.18 so maybe even more ) from the world border to the end of other world border 60million × 60 million
Just so you know, about 3 petabytes is the limit of knowledge for a human brain, and techincally you could memorize 2 times the amount of books held in the petabyte size.
So basically, if you place every bit individually, with a terabyte you'd reach the limits of the Minecraft world. And to think we can store that in a micro SSD nowadays.
Really, this is just scratching the surface of how much data you could store using a barrel. Each item slot can have 0-64 items in it, representing 65 possible different states. This is essentially a base-65 "bit" of data. This means you can already represent separate 4225 combinations with only 2 inventory slots. Using the full barrel gives 65^27 bits or ~10^33 petabytes.
You could take this even further by then by using a shulker box instead and then putting 27 of those shulker boxes into a barrel. You could also use different items to represent even more possible states. Maybe even using the new bundle to hold combinations of different types of items in a single item slot.
Technically a kilobyte has 2 definitions either the correct metric being 1000 bytes or the more common dubbed kibbibyte 1024 bytes. Same for all higher data types and windows doesn’t help things along using kibbibytes and desolating them as kilobytes because yeh why not.
2:10 Oops, made an area ban
Was about to say that 😡
Ah yes the chunkban tip !
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@@Mechanical_codingfire-chrome💀
Try that on a IPhone 6 anything below an IPhone 6 would probably combust
Fun fact; 4 bits are called a "nibble"!
I get it. Ha ha.
It's kind of crazy how one of my teachers said that only once years ago and I can still remember it to this day. The power of the mind blows me away
An average brain can have about 2.5 petabytes of memory so...@@mayhembst
@@SolTheIdiot dayum
Two bits are called a crumb
this really says how small bits are these days because the NES is about the same size as the playstation 5 and yet the storage cap is an absurd difference. computers like ENIAC that once took over an entire room can now exist as a chip that can fit on your finger. incredible.
well now there are 2TB micro sd cards...
what used to take scientist a single punchcard to store a couple of bytes can now be fit as small as a couple hundred lengths of an atom
Why compare to ps5? Series x is even closer in size and slightly more powerful
@@minecrafter3448 idgaf
first thing that was recent and came to mind really
you are absolutely right though@@minecrafter3448
this music is too intense for me to be staring at redstone lamps and not laugh
Theres something wrong with you...
wtf
SAME
Fr 😂
i stopped comprehending the scale of this once we hit 64 bytes, and everything after was too difficult to even remotely understand. the mind is not used to large sizes.
Yet the mind manages to store 2.5 Petabytes
@@johnray854not in the same way as disk would tho.
@@jx5b my mind is but an array of 1s and 0s
@@lollygagger1 no ur brain is a neural network that stores memories not as 1s and 0s indexed by address, but as patterns indexed by more or less a time value. you fill in some details and after a period of time the network converges to an approximation of the original pattern
@@Scotty-vs4lfnah, my mind is an array of 1s and 0s
And to think we now have SD card with a capacity on 1 terabyte
I remember being amazed when I first saw a 512MB thumb drive... I feel old.
My SSD for my PC is 1 terabyte.
@@therealloganyt237 well, an sd card is way smaller than an ssd. slower, sure, but it's way smaller.
@@ginqusalso usually less reliable
@@ginqus Yeah.
2:30 imagine if you do this to store more than your SSD is capable of lol
1. stick a magnet in front of the car
2. car go forward
3. no fuel required
4. problem?
@@kakyoindonut3213 lol thats the same logic as mine. It obviously wouldnt work but if it did it would be funny
bro your computer is still storing the data, if you try it will just run out of storage 💀
@@hypercoder-gaming no shit sherlock
@@hypercoder-gaming RAM would be a problem way before storage, since all the barrel data need to be loaded into memory
You should do a version where whatever you show ACTUALLY takes up that amount of storage when the game saves the chunk
good luck storing a petabyte of information on a consumer pc
The game wouldn't load the world after having the block of barrels the size of 512 MB in one chunk with stuff in them.
@@aMondayMorning2b2t players be like:
sadly compression is a thing
He could use blender or something
1:21 my internet speed at peak hours
That's great. 1 MB/s. did you mean 1 Mb/s?
As a German i feel you.
2:29 my internet when it needs to load ads
@@save_sudan_and_palestine 1 Mega Byte/8 Mega Bits a second isnt great, thats quite bad. I has 12Mb/s previously and it wasn't that good.
I just realized the barrels were empty because you couldn't have saved this amount of memory on your computer.
Why do you like my comment so much ? I almost never saw a number this big !
😱WAIT, you are actually RIGHT!!!!!😱
@wsarris5362 yeah I'm pretty smart 🧠
Yes you can, by telling : 1 book (of a certain size), stacked by 16, times 27 in a shulker, times 27 in a barrel, times length, times width, times height.
This simple calculation corresponds to a petabyte (of the SAME book), but is stores in one comment.
But without compression, you effectively can't.
The cubes may also be hollow.
At least that's what I would do to save some performance
@@Rauster_Calculus?
Never realized how large storage has grown over the years. Great video.
You haven't even watched it yet 🤡
You haven't watched the video yet bruh
@@exploderendekippenproducti3370 i'm just gonna change my opinion and say that the vid isn't that long, perhaps they've watched it
@@danek_hren can't in 1 minute 💀
@@exploderendekippenproducti3370 alr then
Area ban lore.
These aren't kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB), gigabytes (GB), or petabytes (PB). They're actually kibibytes (KiB), mebibytes (MiB), gibibytes (GiB), and pebibytes (PiB). The last group are called "binary bytes" because they're all 2^x (oversimplification). The others are 10^x and are what manufacturers label storage as to make their products seem larger than they actually are.
*no*
I'm pretty sure all if not most of the sizes in the video, at least at the very start, are sizes that are powers of 2; meaning you would use (KB, MB, GB, TB, PB) and not (KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, PiB).
Edit: I'm wrong nvm
@@nates9778Powers of 2 = binary bytes = KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, PiB. Powers of 10 = KB, MB, GB, TB, PB.
They are the right size, it's just that windows says it's MB/GB despite actually measuring MiB and GiB respectively
No
You should probably clarify what kenbak was cause it certainly wasn't the first computer when in 1969 a computer literally took men to the moon. You even show the AGC in the video.
First personal* computer.
I've seen a few of videos tying to communicate scales that go up exponentially like this before. This is the first one that's made me actually somewhat get the jumps of magnitude lol. awesome video.
At the end, after showing the petabyte in barrels, show it again in shulkers, then show it again in redstone lamps
Because of the limited height of a minecraft world, it is impossible to show cubes with more than approximately 60 million blocks, which is only 60 Megabit or less than 8 Megabyte. To show larger numbers, you have to make things more flat. With one Petabyte, all you would see is an endless flat surface of redstone lamps, even at the highest render distance.
In fact, if you create a superflat world in Minecraft with three layers of redstone lamps, the entire minecraft world would contain 10800 Terabits of redstone lamps, or 1,35 Petabyte.
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I just realized something it’s possible to make a jukebox to play custom songs or sounds then you could also have a similar block to pixel and make entire movies with sound I’m not going to sleep for a while
Petabyte is easily achievable raid storage capacity on consumer-grade hardware.
Yeah, tech youtube channels have easy 10 petabytes in a server for their content and buckups
That was interesting to watch bro. Thanks for the video!
my storage ain't liking this
*when you realise you accidentally made a chunk ban*
Accidentally made critical mass of books
What is that?
that's why outside of embedded programming (and i feel like it won't be like this for long) there's no need to worry about space cost in algorithms complexity analisys. Well that is also unelss you're doing something on 20 terabytes of storage, but i feel like if you're doing that then you're working in an environment where there's plenty more.
That's giving bad programmers freedom to do insanely unoptimized code and then tell you "I don't give a shit, computers are powerful enough nowadays". If you want your software to take less memory (RAM, storage) or be more power-efficient or performant, you obviously have to know your data structures and algorithms at least well enough to make an informed decision. But sadly, the "sacred" art of making your app take slightly less than 100M of space and 600M of RAM because you decided to make it in highly unoptimized Electron instead of putting more effort. Hell, nowadays game studios don't even give a shit about compressing and yet people wonder why DLCs are getting bigger and bigger, I wonder why 🤔
@@stefanalecu9532how much is 600M ram? never really heard about that unit
This is amazing, though I would have liked a visual for how much space the amount of blocks that fit in a shulker takes up along with space taken up by shulkers in a barrel.
what a great way to visualize data. After learning about bits and bytes, and the basics of how to use them effectively in minecraft for logical redstone, I tried imagining what 32 GB of ram would look like in minecraft using just redstone and all I could see was my computer breaking down.
awsome, really shows scale of storage
if you show it all in redstone lamp and not in shulkers or barrels, it will be even more insane. part 2, do this.
I think at a certain point it exceeds the height/depth limit
Wow! Incredible to see how amazing technology has truly become.
does that mean if you store 1tb of data as shown in the video, the world size would be 1tb++ as well?
Yes
Nice video, matt
All this and it STILL couldn't download the latest COD game. 💀💀💀💀
Isn't it crazy how the Nintendo 64 has over 1000x more memory than the Apollo 11 guidance computer?
And then now it's just crazy how we casually have tens of gigabytes of RAM in our PCs, and much more in storage space.
Even crazier is that we need tens of gigabytes
Working as a sys admin, i deployed a server for virtualisation a few weeks ago with 1.5 Terabytes of RAM. Still blows my mind
@@p3chv0gel22 That is insane. It must have been for a lot of users.
And programmers are getting lazier and find even more ways for wasting space and memory.
As they used to say back in the day:
What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away
For those who don’t know: the song is called ‘action’ by infraction music
A surprise upload from Matt!! Love the video :]
I now know what a petabyte looks like :D
If you go with the measurable data (with redstone) you would need 360 barrels for 1 gigabyte though
it doesnt look that insane until you realise that the gigabyte is 1000x the biggest shulkerbox stack shown wich is 1000x the biggest stack of redstone lamps shown😵🤯
well actually 1024🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@SlayTh3DraG0n how could i forget
I remember back in 2013 or 2014 someone calculated that you need about 5PB of free disc space to store single png picture of whole minecraft map where every block is represented with one pixel
Funny thing is my dad was talking about this 5 minutes ago, and I saw this upload now. Perfect timing.
Put the barrels in a chest and now I storin exabytes
Props to the guy who wrote and put the books in the barrels
Bro gave me a scary idea of what im going to do tomorrow. Time to make a memory unit to store data like this 😈
Actually a really interresting video. I don't know why i clicked, but i don't regret it.
This shows how much the world has advanced
That video was short but so cool
You should’ve kept the containers in powers of two.
These are all cool and stuff but I think the best thing would be a computer that would like almost work like the nes where u put catridges etc and it processes them
Imaging doing the petabyte but with actually all the barrels filled with shulkers filled with books filled with letters
0:42 memory capacity of the first computer "kenbak 1" 1971?? where did bro get that from
Excited for minecraft in minecraft
Cool idea to put it like that in minecraft :)
You could just use nbt data to fill a chest with chests, and then put the chests with chests of stored chests into more chests and put the chest filled with chests with chests in it into another chest, and so on
Now make a machine that can read all of those objects and decode them what character on a screen
Well now I wanna make a gigabyte out of just redstone lamps
Edit: I did the math and it would be a rectangular prism that is 5792 * 256 * 5792 blocks large. I tried to use world edit to load one layer on my 4070 and the game started bugging out. 5 minutes after I started the code execution, I force closed Minecraft and it took 5 more minutes to close. It also took about 3 minutes to fly across one wall at the fastest speed in spectator.
and the number of possible states these bits can be in is 2^(the number of bits)
"Let's get creative" implies that so far you acquired the stuff in survival
MATTBATWINGS WITH A NEW VIDEO!!!!
That's not the video we are used to but it is very iteresting thx !
imagine the size of the redstone lamps
Take all of the numbers of bits and double it, and that's how many factors of information the PC has.
Fun fact, the full size of a minecraft world is 16 PETABYTES(may be more , I don't know from when the data is aka was it taken before 1.17 or after 1.18 so maybe even more )
from the world border to the end of other world border
60million × 60 million
The book way I forgot about lol
I love how he makes his vids with such time put into it, Ik it’s just world edit but dam,
Just so you know, about 3 petabytes is the limit of knowledge for a human brain, and techincally you could memorize 2 times the amount of books held in the petabyte size.
do one for processing power aswell in terms of FLOPs
Mattbatwings. Please make a video on how to build torch tower displays.
0:35 This is the average size of one number in a program
Does your minecraft world's save file really 1 petabyte ?
"Sneaks bite"
big boxes in flat world looks ~ the same, because you can't visually compare them to like trees, mountains, rivers, etc.
Can you have mode data stored inside minecraft than in your HD?
why no ds server ping 🤨
edit,: nvm, it just arrived the notification
That a chuckban right there
Honestly, I wish we could go back to when 4 megabytes was cutting edge tech.
It's crazy how 1 terabyte can fit in your hand
Matt, try breaking the petabyte one or, at least, the terabyte one and see if your pc can handle that
4 bits is also called 1 Nibble
Not the movie documentation music 😭🙏
Watch someone try to blow up a whole Minecraft flat world with tnt on a quantum computer in 2050
So basically, if you place every bit individually, with a terabyte you'd reach the limits of the Minecraft world. And to think we can store that in a micro SSD nowadays.
The music goes pretty hard here tho.
i think 4 bits are called a nibble but im not sure. great video as usual
Wow, the amount of storage used to show us... is incredible!
How did your pc Even handle all that storage
2:24 that’s a whole ass server crasher 💀
now break all the barrels
so cool, mattbatwings (:
"Our company puts smiles on millions of faces every day" ahh music 💀
How short did it take you to build/make all this
Please tell me you used world edit and didn’t manually place them
i love your wideo
btw can you make mahine from your wideo 3d render as playable game something like maze
so whats the size of the save
Really, this is just scratching the surface of how much data you could store using a barrel. Each item slot can have 0-64 items in it, representing 65 possible different states. This is essentially a base-65 "bit" of data. This means you can already represent separate 4225 combinations with only 2 inventory slots. Using the full barrel gives 65^27 bits or ~10^33 petabytes.
You could take this even further by then by using a shulker box instead and then putting 27 of those shulker boxes into a barrel.
You could also use different items to represent even more possible states. Maybe even using the new bundle to hold combinations of different types of items in a single item slot.
@@voidley8668computers store 0/1 only
One day, magic will be solved by engineers.
I mean, we've come this far already, haven't we?
I think the units here are kibibytes, mebibytes, gibibytes, tebibytes ect. (powers of 2 instead of 10) correct me if im wrong
Technically a kilobyte has 2 definitions either the correct metric being 1000 bytes or the more common dubbed kibbibyte 1024 bytes. Same for all higher data types and windows doesn’t help things along using kibbibytes and desolating them as kilobytes because yeh why not.
Technically as the blocks are being stored in ram and ram is usually measured using the 1024 byte kilobyte calling it a kilobyte would be correct
"correct metric" is the 1024
1000 is the "better for advertisers, worse for everyone else" metric
@@NoNameAtAll2 pretty much xD
@@moofurg1024 bytes is 1 kibibyte. 1 kilobyte is 1000 bytes.
Now the real question is minecraft good for compres a real big file into a single barrel
How did bro streal that pc from nasa without anyone notice 💀
So… how do u implement THIS with redstone?
Can it be RAM?
Guys, this may seem easy to do, but it's hard, so I'm subscribing
What's the size of the world file ?