Rejoining the single market, won't be an option, as the EU don't want the bother of part deals. We we have to apply wholeheartedly or stay out, although recent noises have been made about allowing us back on more or less same terms that we left, ie no Euro or Schengen.
I have news for you: it's up to us in the EU to decide who joins and who does not. At present the UK fails to meet 30 out of the 59 requirements of the accession criteria. Come back in 2070 when you might finally meet them. Other than that: those of us member states that profit from Brexit will veto you. Greetings from the EU
Brexit has never been carried out completely and therefore not given a proper chance. If politicians dare to reverse things and try to get us back into the EU without consulting the British public it will show exactly what a sham our so called "democracy" is.
I am now 80, but because I am neither stupid nor demented, I voted to remain in the EU. I am old enough to remember 1973, when Britain was “the sick man of Europe “ and we were desperate to join the EEC (as it was then). We kept begging to join, but de Gaulle kept vetoing our membership. Eventually, under Edward Heath, we were allowed to join. The EU made us prosperous again. But in 2015 greedy extremely wealthy people - notably multi-millionaires Farage and Reese-Mogg - wanted to leave. Why? The EU was planning a crackdown on offshore tax-evasion schemes used by the wealthy. The wealthy protagonists conned the public with LIES about how much better we would be outside the EU. The public had been primed by decades of anti-EU propaganda in gutter press media, like the Daily Fail. It sells papers. We were told we would save £350 M a week, which we could give to the NHS. The reality is that being outside the EU now COSTS us £400 M a week. Plus staff shortages in the NHS. We do 50% of our trade with the EU, even after 6 years of Brexit. But that trade now has added costs and mountains of paperwork which we did not have inside the EU. I hope to see the main con-artists of Brexit, greedy Farage and Reese-Mogg, put on trial for treason. (Treason is damaging your own country for personal gain.)
Harry your well off your eggs with that one , you believed all the guff, WE never got a Referendum to join the EEC , When asked a few year after Heath joined the EEC why not, he answered the People would have voted NO , Also Jeff Taylor put up a UK Annual Growth Graph from the World Bank 1961 to 2021 on You Tube EEC /EU Membership did nothing for the UK ,, growth was pretty stagnant during EU Membership.
The tipping point reason for the UK to support Brexit was the Syrian 2014, 2015 immigration crisis. "Regain control of out borders" - Thank you Merkel for the most pronounced blunder of your political career on the “Bundes” chancellor level at least. UK: Please re-join the EU. You need us and we need you asap! - You can have your discounts back. Al rich EU countries have some discounts already.
12:19 The assumption is the EU wants the UK back in the EU. Membership of the EU requires compliance with the “four freedoms” - goods, people, capital, services, and compliance with that requires acceptance of EU Standards and Regulations, which, until 2019, UK helped formulate. This was explained patiently by Michel Barnier to the various poorly briefed British government ministers during the Brexit negotiations. The UK can’t cherry pick. One should not overlook the fundamental historical reason behind the existence of the EU which was to prevent another major war in Europe by ensuring that the economies of European countries are so intertwined as to make it impossible. The reality Brexit has strengthened the EU and weakened UK. After seeing the disaster for the UK of brexit, support for leaving the EU in other EU countries has waned significantly.
"The assumption is the EU wants the UK back in the EU." This is the big one: the UK doesn't seem to remember how difficult that was the last time. Even UK Citizens wanting to rejoin the EU seem to think it's a matter of the UK making a phone call and being invited in the next day. To even be allowed to start the process of -re- joining the UK will have to convince the EU that it really has changed and won't act in the way it did last time it was a member. This may make some time and certainly will take a lot more humility. And yes, Barnier had the patience of a saint...
I accept that the UK will have to accept the four freedoms of the EU before it rejoins, however suggesting that Brexit has helped the EU is simply a lie, Brexit has weakened the UK a lot but has certainly not made the EU stronger, Covid and Russia made the EU more agile. I do wish people on here would stop spreading mis-formation that the EU somehow glad Brexit happened and now is winning loads because of it, it is almost as silly as saying the UK is better off because of Brexit
Besides ,could you imagine the UK sending yet again similar malevolent dregs of the English political undergrowth to Strasbourg. I'm afraid that the memory of Widdicombe's and Farage's tenures will live on among member states for a long, long time.. As my Sopttish granny would say "Ye cannae trust them as far as ye could throw them.". One dose of that has been enough for a few decades.That's what it's about. Nobody trusts the UK any more. Your politicians have done a magnificent job of destroying the UK's credubility.
The final paragraph should read: "Other countries' support for leaving the EU has weakened significantly after witnessing the level of disaster that Brexit caused to the UK."
@@BinkyTheGoddessDivine That's it, that's the final benefit, it was not a financial benefit, it did not make the EU stronger on the well stage which I would argue would be the biggest measure of success. Also eventually EU citizens will forget Brexit, so that itself was a short term benefit.
The UK still doesn't grasp what the EU is about. Even with all the talking of rejoining I alway hear: "What is best for us (UK)?" instead of "What is best fo us (Europe)?" The EU is still a beloved scapegoat for all your misery (Dover). For once the Brexit weldet the EU together and silenced all the Nexit/Grexit/Poexit jabber, but I am not sure who is to credit for that UK or Russia. 10 years ago, I even wished Russia to join the EU, but it seems COVID also inflicted severe brain damage. The EU is about joining forces and evening out the hardships for the welfare and peace of as much as possible. For Germans it wasn't easy to adopt the € (50% loss over DMark) but it helped weaker countrys to catch up and join the market as producers and customers.
Brexiteers : We don't want to pay contribution, We don't want foreigners taking jobs, We don't want rules dictated by Brussels. Remainers : We are loosing to much look at the damage inflicted. We do agree we need rules and together with others We are standing stronger. For me it's obvious the Uk is way to much about own intrest no matter which side they are on. I don't think at the moment the UK is ready to think more globally and is an asset to Europe to take back.
yes. the UK should have not even participated in the build of the tunnel- it should have been canceled. Uk is always the cash cow for the EU- the french company even wanted the UK gov. to bail out the quasi bankrupt tunnel enterprise.
@@ozzie2612 bankrupted millions of small shareholders. Much fanfare, 15 years later junk stock, the french company. even tried the get the UK gov. Bail it out with taxpayers money just within the last few years. Fail!
It seems to me that the UK suffers from a collective amnesia - they all seem to have forgotten the state of the British economy back when they applied for EEC membership. The UK was referred to as 'The Sick Man of Europe' in the early 70's due to her miserable economy.
@LarsPallesen Jeff Taylor put up a Graph of UK Annual Growth 1961 to 2021 obtained from the World Bank. We were called that by EU Commission in an attempt to hide the fact UK Joining EU 1972 cost us money , there was No Benefit to show for the UK joining Growth was basically Stagnant or below normal .
Yes, it was due to a perfect storm and we will recover quickly.....meanwhile in EU how are things? I hear now less than 15% of global GDP despite expansion compared to EEC 80s at just under 30%.
@@gnrseanra9070 This perfect storm applied to all of Europe not just the UK and still you performed worse than EU's average so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. It's even worse if you consider how badly you performed despite being the least exposed to russian energy. As I said, EU's average GDP growth was higher than the UK's so things are looking good - thanks for asking! UK's businesses come to EU to escape brexit's red-tape and London's power as a financial hub is eroding with ever increasing pace as businesses in the sector move to EU's financial centres in Germany, France and Netherlands. As many foresaw, brexit did not make UK stronger but the EU and we can only thank brexiteers for that! Of course with the UK as a TRUE team-member, EU would have been even stronger and ALL of us would be better off, but the UK preferred to be USA's "with you whatever" lackey instead all these years. So thanks but... no thanks! You turned out to be a burden not an asset and we do not want you back! MAYBE one day when britons will realise that they have been shafted and demonstrate their TRUE commitment to the European ideal, EU's door will re-open to accept them not just as EQUAL members of the European market but MORE IMPORTANTLY as EQUAL members of the European society!
number 7 is a non starter, the EU had a bad experience of what happens when they loosen the criteria to accommodate the UK. Instead of bringing them in it created an environment of privilege and perceived exceptionalism If anything, I believe the EU will be much harsher on the UK if they apply to join And lets not forget that this is not a decision for the "EU" but for the commission, the EU parliament and in the end, each one of the 27 member states, all of them capable of vetoing the request
I'm sure they would let us back in, as our free money would help them greatly. Don't worry, the Uk won't be asking to join anytime soon as it would be implausible to join a bankrupt club 👍
As a percentage of world trade the EU is shrinking rapidly while the CPTPP is growing exponentially. But you seem to forget we still trade with the EU, in fact our trade is growing with them and now we can have free trade will the Worlds biggest trade block. Even better we don't have to pay £22 billion a year for the privilege. You should be celebrating along with us Brexiteers.
@@garyb455 Please ! Don't tell them this fact, whilst their precious EU diminishes year upon year. They certainly won't than us anytime soon, as they are so convinced their EU utopia is strong and United.
I doubt it. As a Swede I can say that we lost a lot of power in the EU when the UK left as the UK provided a counterweight to the continental countries and those that are more open towards transfering wealth from the north to the south. Scandinavia would love to see the UK back in the union as I expect the other countries such as Austria and the Netherlands who joined the frugal four would. As net contributers to the union we have quite a lot of say in these matters within the union. Additionally, the economic impacts of Brexit has not only hurt the UK but also the other member countries as sensitive supply chains and inter country partnerships had to be reshaped which means that the financial incentives exist for EU member countries as well. Finally, the Ukraine crisis has proven that a strong Europe is necessary for us collectively to push back against the great powers when they go on a power trip. We cannot accept to be squeezed between countries like the US, Russia and China going forward and this is something that is easier to achieve when we have a unified continent and the britbongers on board.
I remember a spokesperson from EFTA saying no way to the UK joining them, in her words 'it would be like inviting that awful relative to your wedding, the one who always gets drunk and starts a fight'. De Gaul was probably right too.
The UK was a founder member of EFTA, so I am not sure why current members should take the 'awful relative' view. The UK has long favoured intergovernmental rather than federal/supranational collaboration.
Oh you remember that do you??????? I remember the foundation of the European Free Trade Association. It was in 1960. I was seven. I remember it because the UK was a founding member. I dare you to Google it.
If the UK wants to rejoin but expects to keep all the previous perks, they might face backlash from the EU. The EU could say, "If you don't want Schengen and the eurozone, rejoining is a no-go." It's a bit ironic since the UK previously enjoyed special treatment and deals, yet they still had the classic Anglo-Saxon ego for pursuing their own interests as if we were their oppressors. This kind of thinking, where the Anglo-Saxons want special deals, is frustrating for Europe and beyond.
Why in the world should the EU like to see UK join without Euro? Surprising idea! It seems totally obvious to me that the UK lost any special treatments or advantages it had in the EU.
It's not all about special treatment. My understanding is that The European Central Bank is partially underwritten by the UK. That indemnification would disappear if Britain changed over to the Euro.
@@thelleftaremad7556 *"So why ask for it then?"* - Because bureaucracy doesn't pay for itself and there are many benefits to be had from investing in the Single Market. Now the UK is gone, managing the Single Market is cheaper so they don't need our contribution.
@@thelleftaremad7556 What I don't understand is people who resented paying £20 billion/year to be part of the EU but who are nevertheless happy to pay £150 billion/year to be out of the EU.
@@thelleftaremad7556 *" So its to pay for unelected bureaucrats?"* - You can't run an organization without bureaucracy. Why would anyone want to elect beaurocrats? They are pen pushers. They have no power to make laws. Only elected bodies in the EU can enact laws and make political decisions.
The biggest taboo is still that the Brexiteers have sent 930.000 hard working people away. Now the arrogant English have huge labour shortages in the NHS, hospitality, farming, transport, factories, you name it. Nobody except a few entrepreneurs dare say this. Total taboo, even on this channel.
If the UK doesn't want to become a committed member of the EU sometime in the future, but wants to hold onto the pound, the obvious solution is stay out of the EU.
The pound! Blue passports [printed in France apparently].! Feet, inches, ounces pounds [the other kind]! Bring back LSD! We shall fight on the beaches and on the landing grounds.! We shall superglue our minds into the 1940s. We will never surrender! Well, apart from the polls that say the majority of Brits are regretting Brexit ...
True that, and I fully agree. But have you considered the other side of the medal? The UK joining the € means those disaster capitalists and pirates get a say in our currency. We have seen what a Truss can do in a few days of governing. Their own currency has been in decline for decades, so maybe we should think twice about even letting them come close to membership.
Sterling is growing less and less in importance as the years progress and this process will not reverse.......the Euro may ultimately be the only option for the UK but who knows.
Leaving the EU has been undoubtedly bad for Britain, but the EU have done well out of it. They still export a lot of food and manufactured goods to the UK - the proximity of Europe means that it's the easiest and cheapest place to buy stuff from - and the UK government haven't imposed import controls because it would just impose more costs on consumers and UK businesses. Most importantly, the EU has attracted a significant chunk of financial services from London to Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris and Dublin, and they like the tax revenue which goes with it. Brexit has been good for Europe - they are not going to give that up, however much we beg and plead. Turkey have more chance of joining than we do.
Imported goods added tax that goes into uk coffers, and makes local uk produce more attractive pricewise and enables uk companies to grow, and keeps jobs in the UK. Nowt wrong ther!!!
@@jonsimmons4150 Unfortunately, the import tax will be added to the price that customers pay, so we'll all be poorer,and until climate change really kicks in we can't grow bananas, Oranges, pineapples, etc in the UK.
The EU is not a gym, where you can suspend your membership for a few weeks or months and then rejoin. It's entirely possible for the UK to rejoin but that will take a generation. The British people had their say through a referendum and decided to leave. However, it looks like they have changed their minds. Now it's too late, the British electorate should have been better informed about the negative consequences of Brexit.
@@Gunbold i agree, we blame people like nigel farage and david cameron for playing their part but at the end of the day it was the people who voted to leave and their decision
What makes you think that all member states will agree to accept the UK back in???, And most likely force the UK to accept the euro as a currency, UK won't be in the EU again
Yep, they probably won't want us back in for a couple of decades at least - we've very publicly made a complete arse of ourselves, but who knows what might change in 20 years. As for the Euro, at the moment I don't think there is any way to force the adoption of it is there? A member state has to make a pledge to agree they will adopt it, but anyone can end up doing a Sweden. Anyway no one knows
@@tableface77 Most Europeans do not want back Britain that always fought against everything rational, and adamantly supported all the irrational things like driving on the wrong side of the road and using imperial measurements. Hundreds s of thousands of doctors and nurses, engineers and carpenters etc. educated on the taxpayers' dime all over Central and Eastern Europe and braindrained by Britain are actually needed in their homecountries. Nobody East of the Elbe will ever vote for such a merciless braindrain to be possible again. Sorry, but the UK will not be taken back on board. Brexit was a good riddance, after all. By the time Britain can raise the issue of returning, like in 2040 or 2050, the UK will be Pakistan 2.0, and in no position to become a net contributor in the EU. By that time the indigenous European population will flee the country, except for the oldest and the dumbest people.
A status like Norway or Switzerland ? I hope you're kidding. To have the same status as Norway or Switzerland, you already need the agreement of the EU and then you need the agreement of the members of the very closed club of EFTA. And one of these members, Norway has already made it known that this option is not possible. Norway would refuse to allow Great Britain to become a member of EFTA if the request were made by the British government
There was NEVER a 'Swiss Deal' on the table for the UK, or any other country. As far as the EU is concerned, that ONLY applied to Switzerland when that country seemed to be on track to join the EEC. In fact, the 'Swiss Deal' is not even on offer to Switzerland any more. There is NO prospect of the UK joining the European Free Trade Association(EFTA), mainly because that organisation's members do NOT have a death wish. Admitting the UK would change that small, cozy club of small, rich countries with a legal commitment to the Freedom of Movement of People(FoM) into 'The UK, with some powerless and insignificant bits hanging on to it..." Norway and Iceland have BOTH stated that they will veto any UK membership application.
That is only if the agreement is explicitly part of the EFTA. A bilateral customs union agreement with the European union could be negotiated that was in essence the same.
As long as the UK citizens see in the EU only the economy part they should not rejoin. This is and was happening in the last 50 years and Brexit was the result. Blaming only Boris Johnson for this is not correct because 15+ millions voted for this. The EU is changing without the permanent blocking of the UK in a United Europe in the long term. The war of Russia in the Ukraine shows that from the military side the EU has to have their own protection and not depending only on the US.
Totally agree with your comment, Europe is more than a large market, Europe is a project for the future, with high levels of well-being, security and freedoms. We must be the mirror where the rest of the world can see itself
You conveniently overlook the fact that the EU wasn't what we originally voted to join. Britain voted way in a referendum back in the 70's to join an economic free trade zone. Then Europe pulled a bait and switch and morphed it into a political union, which our government never asked our consent for. We Brits have made our feelings perfectly clear - we don't want any part of your "European Project". If you insist on using economics to blackmail us, then we're better off without you and your duplicity no matter the resulting economic hardship. I'd rather be poor but free, than slightly less poor but under the thumb of a European Government.
@CarlosGarcia-gs1wd High levels of well being, security and freedoms? HELLO??? Do you think the French are feeling like they have high well being right now? Do you think they feel secure, with their annual terror attacks? . NATO has kept Europe secure for the last 50 years, not the EU. You're spouting a fantasy. Europe is crumbling.
@@Edithae eu was a political project as well as an economic project long before uk applied to join. So your claim that uk was tricked into it, is complete bulshit.
It’s not so much whether Britain wanting to rejoin but whether the EU will let the UK back in. In a few generations maybe but definitely not in the near future.
@@oneeleven9832 Made what fail? Brexit? You just don’t get it; Brexit was never going to work. You should at least have stayed within the single market.
ofcus the brits are welcome. will always be But it would be nice if the reasons for joining was down to beong onboard with the longterm political vision of an ever closer union, rather than just for economic reasons
1 reason why those 7 reasons won't matter: EU countries will have figured out that they can move along just fine without UK interference and will therefore put up all kinds of obstacles (rightly so) in the way of a Rejoin.
Well as a person who voted to leave i have to say to the EU. PLEASE PROMISE TO NEVER LET THE UK REJOIN!! You are now our best chance to make brexit work. The real unspoken reason for brexit was the utter distrust and contempt ordinary British people have for our political class. Brexit is our only chance to bring them to heel and discipline them 😊😊 thank you EU ❤
I'm not an economist but it doesn't seem logical to throw up trade barriers with our doorstep market to pursue trade deals with countries on the other side of the world while the world is moving towards localised supply chains? In anycase, what's to stop the EU (A much bigger market) from striking the same trade deals or improving upon them? The whole Brexit trade deals seems to be pushed by a government desperately trying to justify a flawed ideology and really not what the country needs right now
"The whole Brexit trade deals seems to be pushed by a government desperately trying to justify a flawed ideology and really not what the country needs right now"? This! Oh, and an ongoing denial of economic and geographical reality....
lol and what great trade deals! We couldn't even reach a trade agreement with the US, because they wanted to stiff us so badly even the Conservative government wouldn't give in to their one-sided demands! We made a great deal with Oceania so they could supply us cheap meat with no restrictions and completely kill British farmers. Even the New Zealand media were scratching their heads as to why we agreed to the terms they were so favourable to NZ. It's been an absolute shambles.
The UK only regret for economic reasons. The EU is much more than that and until the UK become pro EU for more than selling products then I for one dont want to see them back in the union.
I know some people who started regretting it as soon as they realised it would be harder to go to Europe for holidays. Somehow thinking we'd still have all the benefits we used to have, idk y they thought that
@@marinusvos The European Union isn't what has brought peace its NATO that has done that which the UK was a founding member along side the USA is still part of
@@chickenmadness1732 "They're not going to reject one of the richest countries in Europe"? First, I am glad to hear that you think you can forecast the future foreign policies of 27 separate sovereign, independent countries..... Second, the UK, in terms of per capita GDP, is sliding rapidly down the European league table. Ireland passed it by back in 1996. Slovenia has, or very shortly will have, a better average standard of living than the UK. Poland is forecast to do the same by 2030. The UK is basically a poor country, getting rapidly poorer, with a small number of very rich people living there. Back in reality,, there is NO appetite for even considering the UK's FOURTH membership application. POST-Brixit, we have discovered that our union functions far better without having the UK around, dragging its feet and demanding opt-outs. "It only benefits them having UK in the EU"? Our collective experience in the period between 1973 and 2016, while the UK was a full, albeit semi-detached, member of the EEC/EC/EU provides very strong evidence that the opposite was the case....
It takes two to tango and some EU countries have wtill more to gain than lose by the UK's absence. Maybe in a few decades but not in the foreseeable future.
The absence of the UK removes the most discordant voice and obstacle to ‘more’ Europe and going further whatever that means. But even without the UK, the EU is struggling to,define a purpose. Without the UK, the EU has lost a pragmatic voice at the table. But the UK has also lost and gained. For six years it has lived the illusion that by leaving the EU and severing ties to its neighbour it would regain former glory and prosperity. While Brexiteers admit that Brexit has not boosted the economy and delivered prosperity they either say that that is because of Covid and the war in Ukraine or that prosperity is not the point. Rather UK citizens can continue to measure distance in miles, buy meet in pounds and travel with unique blue passports.
The union is crumbling, UK rejoining the EU is like shackling a race horse with oxen. [GDP Nominal, source IMF] 1995 EU 7.5 trillion, US 7.5 Trillion, China 650 Billion , 2022 EU 14 Trillion, US 23 Trillion, China 17 Trillion , the union is one big failure.
I'll be honest, I live in a EU country as a former Brit, now a legal resident of my adopted country, and I have got to be honest, the only people talking about Brexit now are the few British expats that are left, and most of them have had to go home as they were living illegally over here, we moved on ages ago, no one talks about the UK with regard to politics anymore at all, it's just, another 3rd country.
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as long as the mentality -as displayed in this video as well - is that countries like Poland "wisely don´t take the €" I hope any application of the UK/England is consigned to the bin.
Yep. But in those days British workers had done apprenticeships and were highly skilled. Now the Polish people who left brexit UK are the ones working there
The British mind of "reluctant European" or "we and the Continent" is on what euroscepticism and brexit movement stemmed and grew. Rejoining the EU for money but staying as a reluctant European may end up in 2nd brexit some day.
Precisely why the EU will be slow to read it Britain and if it does it would be without the special,treatment that it should never have received first time round.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 If we'd been given a referendum the first time round, we'd never have joined the EEC. It's no coincidence that the people who are old enough to remember our pre-EEC days were more likely to vote Leave.
I’m sorry but despite its seemingly detailed analysis, I have several issues with this video! I am dual national - British and German and spend my time roughly split between the two countries. I also happen to own a house in France. 1) This video glibly goes into great detail about British demographics and the possible shift in opinion amongst the British electorate. At no stage is it acknowledged that the people in the 27 Member States may not want to ever allow the British back into the E.U! And, all 27 must agree. The people of the UK have manifestly suffered as a result of Brexit, whether they are in the camp that can admit it or not. However, so did people within the E.U suffer because of Brexit and all of the uncertainty that it brought for years. All the years that Britain spent in the UK were spent bleating and moaning on the margins and never genuinely embracing the Union. The German press and media’s initial stupefied shock, following Brexit, has now given way to daily ridicule of the consequences it has had for the British. As a consequence, the atmosphere amongst the German population is now one of Schadenfreude…delight in the misery the Brits have stupidly brought upon themselves. The narrative is now one of “Good riddance….and never again!” I doubt the atmosphere is much different in the other 26 countries. 2) You say, words to the effect: “Who knows perhaps one day in the future British workers may even be seeking to go east into Europe for better economic prospects…..” BUT, you still say it with a mocking smile on your faces as if you’ve cracked a cheeky little ironic joke. That isn’t remotely a ‘joke’ and it actually just smacks of a continued arrogant assumption in some notional primacy. As if….”Oh! Could you possibly imagine such a thing?!” 3) You mention the UK rejoining but at the same time already in terms of possibly being able to reject the Euro and retain the Pound. So already, years ahead of any notional rejoining, you’re already laying down caveats and demanding ‘special and exceptional arrangements’ for us! Bleating again…..and you’re not even it! Doesn’t sound too good, does it? 4) You say, “the E.U doesn’t want to be in a perpetual state of friction with the U.K.” Well, what state do you think it was in, for over four decades whilst the U.K was IN the E.U ? EXACTLY that…..perpetual friction! In short, the people of the E.U have the say in this…not the British electorate…and they don’t want Britain and its constant bleating, reluctance and its mischief making, unhelpful ways back again. They have no appetite for it. On the contrary….they are sick of Britain and the British. It would be a very brave politician in those countries who suddenly openly starts supporting the U.K’s re-admission. That’s certainly not going to be a vote winner! Forget it!
What makes any of you morons think Britain wants to be back in the EU. It will never happen the EU is lazy, incompetent and virtually bankrupt hence totally useless.
The Spanish perspective IS what you point out, we are fed up of a colony of retirees Who despise us, think we cannot do without them and create small english speaking villages that look aloof outside. Moreover, we are the only country where UK has a colony (Gibraltar) a tax haven where dirty money IS laundered f***ng our economy. Give It Up, I say. De Gaulle was right, KEEP OUT and good riddance.
Britain may wish it could reverse Brexit and re-join UE. But what makes them think UE would have them back? Their politicians have been nothing but a thorn in the side, since joining. Mainly because they still think they are a World Power, when in fact they are a 'laughing stock'. And secondly, as General deGAULLE said at the time, "Britain would always put American interests BEFORE European ones" He has been proven right time & time again. . One cannot be a member of one team whilst supporting another ! But good luck in the Pacific !
Indeed. There is no 'Rejoin ' . The Brexit car crash can't be un-crashed. I would go way further there won't be a UK in a few years time ? We all know Northern Ireland is changing and demographics and time will lead to a Northern Ireland exit from UK. What i am saying isn't that controversial? How can there be a ' United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ' as a Nation without Northern Ireland? Scotland and Scotland's Secession isn't going to go away, at some point Scotland will also leave this corrosive Union. There simply won't be a UK ! Dissolution of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland!
😂😂😂 So do you still believe that this transpacific trade isnt already set with the Eu???? Most of the agreements the UK has accomplished since Brexit were basically the same as the Eu did. Added to that, claiming that the country will shift from one trade bloc and enter another one gives you immediately a glimpse of how disastrous it can be for thousand of businesses out there. This is not as easy as many ppl may think. Lastly, dropping the biggest single free market over the channel to join another bloc sparse all over the rest of the world IS SO STUPID.😅
UK could apply for EU membership, but my guess it will take years. The EU wants assurances that this wont repeat itself. And that will spell the end of the rebates etc as well as the pound.
IMO it would mean the end of the FirstPastThePost system that lets unrepresentative people - like Brexiters and Liz Truss - to gain power without a genuine majority. The EU would insist on the UK moving to Proportional Representation.
I'm 76 ( so well over the 65 year olds who voted to leave because they didn't like Jonny Foreigner). But I and all my similar-aged friends voted to remain because we saw beyond the hype and saw the benefit of belonging to the biggest trading bloc on the planet. Now we depend upon the youngsters to dig us out of the mess that (some of) us oldies created. I'm sorry!
An ageing population and outdated 1950s style protectionist trading block concepts are exactly what is killing the EU. In the last 20 years the EU has lost 30% of global market share. It has a massive war in its back garden, which it desperately tries to ignore. It has serious energy problems that are going to destroy its manufacturing sector. It has to import minerals, and it has fallen out with its main source (Russia). Its pension systems are collapsing leading to insurrection (France is just he beginning). The EU won’t last another decade.
@@rosshilton The EU's trade has increased steadily year on year for decades however the amount of global trade has also increased year on year for decades especially since China began to dominate Global production that gives the impression to naive brexiteers that the EU is somehow declining. The EU is fine it is stable, united and home to the world's second reserve currency, the EU is the only possible future for the countries of Europe to ensure that they remain relevant in a world that is going to be dominated by superpowers and emerging super economies. The UK is neither a superpower nor a super economy it is a mid rank and declining economy and the little influence it has on world affairs at the moment is set to diminish rapidly over the coming decades. Protesting against the Government in France is a national hobby it happens regularly and always fades away! do you remember the yellow vest protests a few years ago, what happened in the end there?.......the same will happen this time. The French or any other EU country's pension system is not collapsing no more than in the UK or elesewhere however nearly all European countries have to reform their pension systems including the UK.
@@fitzstv8506 No. 1. The EU is slipping in productivity. Average annual growth in labour productivity - measured as real GDP per hour worked - in those euro area countries that have sufficiently long time series has continuously declined from about 7% in the 1960s to just 1% since the early 2000s. That is terrible! 2. The EU is aging. In 2022, more than one fifth (21.1 %) of the EU population was aged 65 and over. The median age of the EU's population is increasing and was 44.4 years on 1 January 2022, meaning that half of the EU's population was older than 44.4 years. It’s only going to get worse. 3. Despite everyone in the EU gleefully telling the World that the UK would be in a recession in early 2023, it isn’t. Germany on the other hand, is in a recession. The EU won’t talk about it, but Germany is in a recession. 4. UK GDP per capita for 2022 is USD 46,300. The average GDP per capita of the EU is a meagre USD 44,000/year and is spread over 24 languages. The USA GDP is USD 66,000 per capita. Australia is ISD 59,000 per capita, Canada is USD 52,000, New Zealand USD 49,000 The Anglosphere offers a FAR better market potential than the EU, which is a poor mix of languages. 5. The EU economy was driven on cheap Russian gas. The EU had invested over 300 billion euro into the Russian energy sector. That’s gone for ever. Welcome to paying the same for energy as Japan does. 6. The EU doesn’t have the minerals needed for a 21C economy. It was going to buy them off Russia. Good luck with that. 7. The uK wealth: Mean wealth per person across those 440 million people in the EU is not constant. Most are at Developing Nation status - meaning the EU is a de facto empire run by Germany and France. The UK accounted for 17% of the Average Mean Wealth of the EU pre Brexit. The UK had a total mean wealth of US$14,341,029,241,000.00 at the time of Brexit. The UK had the third highest Total Mean Wealth in the EU when it was a member. Only Germany and France had a larger TMW, and France is only 3% higher than the UK. The UK had a Total Mean Wealth that is equal to the sum of the bottom 21 EU nations The UK population has the equivalent to the TMW of 133 million EU citizens. The UK has the second largest Median Wealth in the EU, behind France. The UK has a Total Median Wealth that is equal to the sum of the bottom 22 EU nations. 8. The UK just joined the CPTPP. The CPTPP 12 members now account for over 14% of world output. The Asia-Pacific countries account for about 40 percent of world trade, of which about 70 per cent is used as inputs in production processes elsewhere. It is the engine room of the next 100 years. South Korea, Thailand, the Philippines, China and Taiwan have all applied to join. If/when that happens the CPTPP will be massive, and will incorporate a wide spectrum of nations, from mineral suppliers like Australia, Canada and Chile, to manufacturing giants like Japan Taiwan and China. UK trade with CPTPP is growing by 8% a year. By 2030 over 65% of the worlds 5.4 Billion Middle Class consumers will be in the CPTPP, and demand by members will increase by 70%. Even now CPTPP member countries have a combined population of 500 million and GDP of £9 trillion. For reference, although the EU is a similar size, with a GDP of £11 trillion - that GDP is falling. The EU is in the shit.
Commentators keep saying it was the over 65s who voted to leave. Not My experience. The group of people I travelled all over the EU several times a year for twenty years, with a local coach tour company who specialised in European tours, all wanted to remain. These were retired, comfortably well off travellers , drawn from a group of about 150 regulars, who enjoyed the continental cultures and foods, and the lack of restrictions on days spent in the EU. I got the impression those who regularly travelled the EU wanted to remain, the ones who had never travelled the EU other than the resorts in Spain or France wanted out.
Indeed. Rural less aware people who never have been in other countries than the UK, how can such people ever understand the magnitude of their decision or choice.
Absolutely right, We experienced the same during our extended stays with our family we were able to directly associate with UK nationals living and working in the EU. They were of the opinion we had learned nothing in the last 40 years relating to world order and subsequently our authoritarian demise.
@@stuart3878 "Europes authoritarian" -Napoleon, hitler, franco, salazar, ceaucescu, etc etc. Looked thru, no sign of a UK equivalent... Thus "European authoritarian" is correct.
@@jonsimmons4150 Oh, let's forget those countries we acquired in the Commonwealth. Democracy has several servants and we are historically one of the worst. Too intermate that we have only defended not attacked is an absolute fallacy. There is a world outside of Europe and we have not behaved particularly ethically anywhere. Unfortunately, we are rapidly becoming the great unloved and ignored.
It takes two to tango. Britain may want to rejoin, but EU citizens are becoming less and less willing to take the UK back on board. By the time old Brexiteers all die out and present-day young people become middle-aged, the UK will be irreversibly changed to Pakistan 2.0. Indigenous Europeans are a minority in London and many big cities already. By 2040, the indigenous population will be a tiny minority fleeing the country. Most Europeans will not feel any more that the UK is a European country. Why should it be invited to a club of Europeans?
I never want to join theceu so I don't care if they don't want. I know utube are an American organisation and Americans didn't us to leave the eu but soo many anti brexit videos can they stop and can we hear the other side. There must be another viewpoint u tube is getting Iike the bbc one sided
The European Commission is the institution which has the legal power to declare that an applicant country has met the Copenhagen Criteria for EU membership, and should therefore be granted the status of a recognised applicant country like Moldova, Ukraine, and the Balkan countries. HOWEVER, the final decision about conferring that status lies with the European Council, composed of the 27 ELECTED Heads of State/Government of the EU's member states. UNANIMOUS approval is required, and it only takes ONE country to veto. They do not have to justify their veto. The lordly British assumption that "If this Brixit thing doesn't work out, we'll just rock up to Brussels and tell them we're back and things will return to normal" is rather deluded. Even if you do call ahead so that us poor European peasants can roll out the red carpet... The EU is NOT going to even contemplate UK membership for a generation. Given that the UK itself is highly unlikely to survive another ten years, the question is basically moot anyway.
The UK does not meet the Copenhagen criteria. The EU would be wary of allowing the UK back in lest a future government lead by the likes of Rees Mogg, Bone, Farage, Widdecombe, Johnson aided and abetted by News Corp run another campaign to leave again.
Yeah, he does. It's a Brixit, more specifically English, exceptionalism thing, innit? The basic idea is that IF their Brixit thingy doesn't work out, they will just rock up in Brussels, possibly calling ahead so that us poor, downtrodden European peasants can roll out the red carpet for them.... And everything will be just as it was.... A bit like that 'Dallas' plot line where a character wakes up in the shower and realises that most of the series was just a dream.....
@@gloin10 STOOPID, the one bad experience we had over 47 years was enough for me to realise that that s***show had ulterior motives towards us. We will stay out. End of.
I miss the love for the European Project from the UK, the discussion there is mostly about money. That it prevents wars within Europe and that Europe might develop into a political entity able to act on the world stage seems to play no significant role. I believe our task is to strengthen the European Unity while preserving the traits of our diverse member states.
Why? If they UK meets all the requirements why shouldn't it? People who don't want the UK to re-join add the same amount of division to life as Brexit did in the first place. People were mislead. Not taking that into account and saying NO puts you on the same level as the People who lied about how great Brexit would be.
All reasons mentioned are about britain rejoining, but none is about Europe accepting. Today britain announced it joining the trans pacific partnership. Probably a dual membership is excluded. Europe has evolved into a political block and the free trade is just the kickback for the transfer of national power to Brüssel. Joining just for economic reasons will no longer be an option.
If it was still just an economic free trade zone as it was originally founded, I wouldnt have voted to Leave. It was Brussels and the EU Parliament was voting against, not free trade.
@@Edithae No! It was found for the political reason to make future wars unlikely through the means of economic interlock. It never was about free trade only and became a political and administrative block before britain joined. You were mislead by the anti- EU propaganda in the yellow press and lied to by the tories. But that's not an excuse but your fault entirely. When you listen to all these brexitards, you always get slogans and propaganda repeated or expressions of xenophobia. They always will say souvereignty is worth the economic downfall. Now you got exactly what you voted for, but unfortunately not (all) you wanted.
1:13 Many of the older UK generation who were working or retired to Europe and couldn’t or were unable to vote in the referendum. Probably enough to tip the balance in a close vote. UK citizens (especially those already living, working or retired to Europe, resent having their European Citizenship and Freedom of Movement taken away from by Brexit and limited to 90/180 Schengen days . Many have already voted with their feet and taken Residency in an EU country. Others, where they have been able because of, for example, family connections applied for a second passport in an EU country, particularly Eire. The UK economy is worse for this because they and their children, although still British, will live or work and contribute to the economy of the EU country they are in, rather than UK.
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Brexit was everything to do with English bigotry and little to do with serious issues. The English can think whatever they like but we Europeans are very glad to be rid of their never ending complaining and whinging. Very few here would accept their return to the EU.
Brexit was all about being vetoed 70+ times over 47 years, reaching the ends of our patience, and doing the only thing we could do in the end, walk out or resign, same as you would with a job (any job) you didn't like or were not appreciated for. I always thought it would end this way, EU are far too big-headed these days with all their subordinate members.
@@lesskeels3417 No, brexit was all about Ignorant English bigotry. That not getting your way, a little over once annually, seems to you to justify stamping your little foot, picking up your toys and sulking is simply pathetic. You know absolutely nothing about me so guessing how I might react to an imagined slight in your imaginary job is nothing short of ridiculous.
@@lesskeels3417 Take your meds, you are the reason the UK left. They wanted to control everything because the still think they won the war. But it was the Americans and the Russians who won the was while you lot huddled in your shelters.
@@lesskeels3417 Brexit was a futile, arrogant and nostalgic attempt by the UK to restore it's long lost influence on global affairs with some xenophobia thrown in for good measure while at the same time blaming the EU for all the UK's home grown issues. Brexit is so obviously and as predicted failing, the UK is in terminal political and economic decline and anyone who refuses to accept this is naive.
Membership of the EU's Single Market is restricted to either the 27 EU member states, so-called 'First Countries', or the four members of the European Free Trade Association(EFTA), the 'Second Countries'. These 31 countries are the membership of the European Economic Area(EEA).
As a very pro-EU EUropean, i'm of course happy to see the shift in thinking especially in the younger generations in regard to Brexit - it has been an incredibly bad idea from the beginning! What anybody thinking and talking about this topic *MUST* understand - no country can join the EU! Countries can apply to be allowed to join, and it is by far not sure that this request will be answered. Turkey applied for membership in 1987, and they are still out! There was one real single reason for Brexit and that was ATAD. Nobody in the UK is talking about it. With an application for membership, the UK will have to introduce all ATAD rules and completely change lots of their economic politics and their position in the Commonwealth before serious talks about a new membership can even start, and these talks will certainly contain all 1:1 problems with each single EU member because acceptance requires unanimity! At least France will have a nationwide referendum if they will want to see any new member in. If we follow your ideas about referenda, mostly elderly people in France will go to vote and they will be provided by the French right wing media with quotes from each stupid thing the UK press has produced over decades and all the nonsense UK politicians have produced about EUrope... And i have not even started to write about the minimum conditions, new members have to meet - the UK does at the moment meet perhaps 40% of them and is getting further away each month!
The time-limited equivalence for UK is also never mentioned in these discussions. The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025.
@@micheltibon6552 Right! And the allowance to trade EUropean CO² bonds will go even faster. The City of London will look very different to today in just 2 years and a bit...
This morning I saw a news item that the Swiss and the EU will start talks again to work closer with each other. Talks were halted a few years ago. I understand that Swiss uni’s are keen to get access to Horizon. And there are other subjects needed to be discussed.
@@micheltibon6552 "The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025"? That sentence needs to be amended. It should read "The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025...is 100%!" The EU simply CANNOT allow this situation to continue. The European Central Bank CANNOT tolerate such a massive proportion of euro-denominated clearing taking place in a non-member state.
@@gloin10 I understood from that article I read that there are several possible scenarios in play. The EU is building clearing houses and writing and or updating regulations and hopefully that is done by June 2025. There was also an scenario where some of the business we the EU can lose to the US. Another unlikely scenario is that it remains in the UK and or after the applied for re-entry. I think the EU lawmakers should really make a law where only countries who have joined the EURO as a currency are eligible to clear these euro denominated derivatives.
I am Spanish: For sure! And leave NATO and give up nuclear weapons. And leave Pound and accept Euro. And above all, not out clausules as you enjoyed in the past and much despised 🤬
Honestly, and it is a pity, I believe that the return of the United Kingdom to the European Union is not contemplated in the medium term, only if the United Kingdom enters into a deep crisis, the countries of the European Union could consider the re-entry of the United Kingdom and of course without any exception and accepting from the Euro to Schengen. Today, what I think the United Kingdom should do is comply with the separation protocol and try not to stray too far from the EU legislatively. The UK will never become the European Singapore and like it or not its biggest trading partners will be the EU countries. The UK must forget about having the advantages of being a member of the EU and not having its obligations
@@thevoid5503 Fully understand your reasoning and agree 100% - Politically, It's a lot more involved and there's is a lot of anti-UK sentiment from our friends in the EU. When the dust settles, it will be more apparent how stupid the people on these Isles have been. The vast majority of the UK would embrace rejoining and it will happen. The idiotic politicians over here need to have their heads banged together. The UK is the only Country in history to impose sanctions on itself!
I am an Old Brit and the sooner we get back with our friends in Europe the better. It was economic and social madness to leave in the first place. If you make a mistake, correct it as soon as possible.
The problem is that the UK used to pay half per capita compared to any other EU country. So if the UK return then the UK must follow the rules like anyone else and it would cost twice as much as it used to. Also any new members need to adopt the Euro and Schengen. So the UK won't get the old benefits it used to have.
@@aubreystreeter9641 the UK has left. Haven't you noticed the more expensive food in the store and the extra border checks and so on? Or the lack of doctors and nurses because they got fired? What more do you want?
I am a security engineer and on visiting many companies especially the engineering/ manufacturers and people effected by a withdrawal of investment in pharmaceutical industry, I remember a gentlemen who told me his daughters pharmaceutical company had investment withdrawn from France immediately after the vote to leave the EU in 2016 I myself never believed in Brexit and voted likewise so what I saw whilst servicing security and witnessing companies going out of business was a early insight to what was to come, this country cut itself off from its biggest trading partner.
I can't see Netherlands, Ireland or Germany letting them back in. Every single country can veto their rejoining, but I see those three having the biggest problem with it.
add Luxembourg: their huge banking and financial services sector got a huge share from the London sector and thanks to Brexit it became the richest country in the world. Why shoould they vote in a referendum to give this money back to the UK? Sorry DUK (disunited Kingdom)
This is a top quality discussion of the economic harm caused by a short-sighted vote in 2016 As a Canadian, it would be a huge disaster for our country to close the doors on trade with the USA and Mexico. The younger generation will likely insist on a new trade deal with the EU. The older generation will pass into oblivion RS. Canada
'As a Canadian, it would be a huge disaster for our country to close the doors on trade with the USA and Mexico.' What!? You don't want to leave your nearest and easiest trading partners and set up Canzuk so Britain can start up British Empire 2.0? Damn you Sir, for a traitor and don't try to impress us with your rationality and intelligence. We don't do the latter in Britain much these days. Don't you want to ruin your economy like the old country has? Next thing you'll be telling me is you don't mind the Quebecois ... [This is sarcasm,in case anyone can't figure it]
As a percentage of world trade the EU is shrinking rapidly while the CPTPP is growing exponentially. But you seem to forget we still trade with the EU, in fact our trade is growing with them and now we can have free trade will the Worlds biggest trade block. Even better we don't have to pay £22 billion a year for the privilege. You should be celebrating along with us Brexiteers.
@@garyb455 I and many others in the EU are very happy the UK left. Your trade is growing with the EU because we are your nearest available trading partners. But it is from what I hear, a lot more difficult now. The EU is a mature economy for the most part and others are catching up as is natural. There are also possibilities for the EU and the CPTPP to work together.
@@paulohagan3309 I've read an article (The Diplomat, June 8, 2022) about talks taking place for the EU's accession to the CPTPP. I don't know where that stands now. There actually is a geographical logic in the EU working with CPTPP; the EU is already physically present in the region, thanks to the French overseas territories in the Pacific Ocean (e.g. Tahiti), making it the second largest EEZ (exclusive economic zone) in the world after the US.
@@jfrancobelge Interesting.Thanks for the info. Could our 'British friends' veto it perhaps [?not familiar with the CPTPP.'s modus operandi]. If that happens, the CPTPP will, like the EU, wish they'd listened to deGaulle the first time ...😂😂
If the UK wants to rejoin, they won't really like the new deal, because they won't get all the exemptions and preferential treatment the UK had enjoyed from the Thatcher era until Brexit.
@@lesskeels3417 frankly, the UK hasn't won more independence by leaving the EU. It is now more depended on the goodwill of the USA and increased cooperation of the commonwealth countries, which in turn will demand concessions from the UK. The UK will learn that a party of one is in a weaker position in any negotiation than a united group. One would think, the UK has already learned that lesson from the comparatively bad Brexit deal they were able to negotiate. The 27 on the opposite side were in a position of strength while the British politicians were under pressure to get Brexit done at all costs. But it seems you haven't learned a damned thing. And in the long run, this Brexit deal will cost you Northern Ireland.
@@PatsFanGermany "And in the long run, this Brexit deal will cost you Northern Ireland." And Scotland and probably Wales and maybe even the City of London.
The UK has always been a pain in the ass for the EU while it has been a semi-member of the union, demanding privileges that other countries do not have. And now you are considering rejoining? You have it very very difficult.
One of the problems with the basic narrative, is that it assumes that there is only one side: that when the British people are good and ready to rejoin the EU, the EU will be glad to have them. Consider that the UK being in the EU is not equally beneficial for both sides. Some countries benefit from the UK being outside the EU (more opportunities, less competition). It takes unanimity of agreement from everyone in the EU at that time. And things aren't equal on both sides: each EU country has 29 other EEA countries to trade with tariff free, and the EU charges the UK all the tariffs due. What the UK can't make for itself it must import; and it doesn't (or hasn't up to now) charged full tariffs. And one country veto'd the UK's entrance to the EEC for many years, the last time it wanted to join. You also mentioned about Poland not having being required to join the Euro. But they have never met the convergence criteria. Is the UK going to deliberately avoid meeting convergence criteria so it doesn't have to join?
I'm one of the "older demographic" you mention but I never wanted to leave EU. I discovered a while ago that I should never make an enemy out of a friend..
I am 77 and I remember a referendum in 1975 to decided whether the UK should remain in the EEC. In 1973, the Tory government had taken us in and Labour promised a referendum, in which 67% decided to stay. I voted against, because although I did not have the vocabulary then, I realized that the EEC was a neoliberal organization, which the EU still is today. Even so, The EU has prevented war in western Europe since 1945, has increased wealth and stability in previously poorer countries such as Portugal, Spain and Ireland and today, 27 countries are in much better shape than the UK. Today I would vote to return to Europe. I am an immigrant from London to New Zealand so I did not get the chance to vote remain.
I can remember that in the 70s we had lots of British carpenters and bricklayers in my country NL because they could earn more than in the UK. Do these days come back?
I was 15 at the time of the brexit vote, i knew the leave points were bullocks and what some of the consequences of leaving would be. It truly terrified me talking to adults who were allowed to vote how many planned on voting leave without any research as to what it would mean, i think me and my form room were able to convince our teacher to vote remain after explaining what would happen and how the points she heard were lies. But i know some people i tried explaining it to still voted leave (like my nana)
A lot of people value freedom and national sovereignty (especially remembering that some of us had grandparents that fought for that and suffered severe hardship for it), higher than being able to have easy movement around Europe without the 'shackles' of a green-card point system! The politics trumps the economics for a lot of us and in the long term the economic gain of being in the EU will be insignificant compared to our ability to innovate and flourish outside of the stale bureaucracy of the EU and it's quagmire decision making / law making processes!
@@bigd5090you are absolutely deluded if you genuinely think that a service economy with an increasingly aging population and a weak manufacturing base is somehow going to magically create all this productivity. This is all Brexit boils down to - nonsensical wishful thinking, backed up by zero evidence and even less logic. The point about sovereignty would make sense if the UK was a country like Germany or the US or whatever, but it isn't. It's always going to be at a disadvantage when trying to negotiate free trade agreements with countries like the US or China if those deals even ever emerge. The loss of "sovereignty" from the conditions imposed as a result of a weakened negotiating position is going to be far worse than bendy bananas or whatever. The reality is that in the European Union the UK had a significant voice within one of the largest trading blocs in the world. Now we're on the outside - poorer, colder, more miserable and with no real indication as to how we're going to carve out this bold new isolated future. Also bear in mind that the most serious attempt to create the Singapore-on-the-Thames dream of the "intellectual" Brexiters was in the Kwasi Kwarteng mini-budget, and we all know how that turned out.
@@bigd5090 The only thing that has gone stale is the growth of the UK. It really hasn't since it was in the EU. I am starting to think that even North Korea is getting more growth than the UK, I have been living here since 2009. I now am laughing at the thought of gaining British Citizenship now, as I did once think of it. How stupid was I to even think that. Best way forward is to move elsewhere.
@Moshimulations We are a sick morally degenerating mess of a country. Why do you think we should be rich with or without Brexit? We should cut beaurocracy (now that we can), innovate and regain our Protestant Work Ethic! All the strikes are crippling what small growth we have! Our education system needs to train the workers we need rather than causing a brain-drain across the world to keep our creaking NHS and public services going.
Poland, the Baltic states, Czech Republic, and Slovakia are scheduled to overtake uk GDP per capita in the coming 15 years. Do you think that they want english workers driving down vages?
Sorry, but i'm quite sure, very few Europeans want the UK back. The BREXIT experience was a frustrating one, dealing with the british exceptionalism. No one wants to repeat this once more.
1. Reason why they wont. : It is not up to the UK to rejoin. It´s up to the EU to let them back in! And do anyone really think that 27 members can agree to let someone back who left the way the UK did? This was not exactly a happy divorce! UK should expect to give up more than they might be willing to loose to please everyone!
Surely you must know that the so called bendy bananas rule never existed it was dreamed up by bojo for one of his newspaper articles, saying that this would be the next sort of rule that might possibly be introduced, but was belived to be fact by many
but the iphone plug change is real! what do you know about USB C? A device with a Type-C connector does not necessarily implement USB, USB Power Delivery, or any Alternate Mode: the Type-C connector is common to several technologies while mandating only a few of them…… The EU is mandating in a minefield here.
@@rosshilton Plugs and bananas are your concerns? You do not realise the real scale of lies of Boris and Nigel and the real parts and size of damage the BREXIT has done to the UK. E.g. the lost fundings from the EU where not replaced by the government. And that is by far not all.
EU rejoining is far from inevitable- except point 3, which is disputable, all those point were only about what UK can gain, how UK will benefit( or rather stop losing) and about UK perspective, needs, politics, demographics etc, even the last, hypothetical, point is about UK only, how EU somehow reverses the current trend and first time in history the joining criteria will be loosened, coincidentally exactly in the right time when UK is ready and willing to try to become EU member again, instead of tightened as they were for every subsequent wave of new candidates and members as the EU itself been changing, integrating, and expanding. nothing about what EU may gain to let UK back or that EU joining process is fully EU dictated and directed and UK as a candidate would have to gain EU approval to be even considered candidate not to mention to be approved, be single every one of 27 members, to become member again. Unless UK, and UK public and commentators alike, stop being so UK-myopic and start to look at EU and joining process more logically instead of solely from their, narrow, UK POV then chances of UK ever becoming member again are exactly zero.
I think there is one thing that the British have not understood or cannot understand. It is not you who decides whether you can join the EU. It is the EU that chooses. And if the United Kingdom wants to join the EU, you have to apply and queue like all the other countries. Moreover, considering all the insults and the criticisms which you made towards the EU, no member state wants you!!! EU is stronger et faster without UK.
@@barrystubbs983 Montenegro, Serbia, Turkey, North Macedonia, Albania, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia Herzegovina. It's not in alphabetical order, but who cares.
@@paulspam2682 Obviously the EU will continue to work with the UK, as it does with almost every country in the world. But the EU did not punish the UK. Once the UK left the EU, third country rules applied, that's all. But the British who had all the privileges of being part of the EU did not understand that it happens like that with countries outside the EU. British citizens elected their representatives, there was a referendum, if people are stupid enough to believe that by being isolated they would have a better life than by being all together, that is their problem. They are responsible for what happens to them, not the EU.
@@paulspam2682 Everything also depends on the agreements made between the EU and third countries, each agreement is different and it also depends on the companies and the agreements they also have with each third country and the one they have with the EU. There is no special punishment for a country, it does not work like that.
@@barrystubbs983 "can you list in alphabetical order all the nations waiting to join the e.u. please"? Albania, Bosnia Herzegovina, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, and Ukraine are the seven recognised candidate countries actively working towards EU membership. Turkey, while it was accepted as a candidate member, has had its accession process frozen, and is unlikely to progress as long as Mr Erdogan remains office. Georgia and Kosovo are working towards candidate member status. Can you list, in alphabetical order, all the EU member states that want to copy the UK's self-mutilating idiocy? That would be an empty page, with zero entries....
Please don’t do it. From a current perspective de Gaulle was right to vote against a UK membership. He saw crystal clear what an annoying member UK would be. So for now, enjoy the pain that your vote has caused, learn humility and understand the EU as a European peace project. And then you have to guarantee us that you won't start bickering again and constantly try to sell your own mistakes as the mistakes of the EU.
One reason why the UK will never join the EU - the EU member states with their veto powers. The threshold for a referendum to join the EU may never get to the threshold set by the EU. That could be as high as 75%. The UK should break up and allow Scotland, Wales and NI self-determination.
Spaniard here, if they want to apply they may do it. However we have to learn from past experience.
This time no exceptions... No mistakes. It has to be all in or all out. With euro, with metric system and past a few years driving on the road as everyone. They think that they are better than the rest of Europeans and only a 180º turn apreciable in every street of the UK can fix that. They were free to apply in the first time, they were free to leave in the first time, but the rest of the Europeans we are free to set the conditions to ensure that there is no second Brexit. No hard feelings but in the UK they have to realize that they are not an empire anymore and they have to be team players. In Spain we learned that the hard way and it seems to me that this is the only option if they want to rejoin the EU. Edit: If they want to Join the EEA or the EFTA they are also free to apply but with all the criteria for accesing the single market. Free of movement/contribution to the EU budget/accept the EU courts,... That also could work.
"Seven ways of wishful thinking" would have been a more appropriate title. I don't know if this is extreme optimism, or that entitled sense of British exceptionalism. As if all it takes is the UK changing it's mind? There's no such thing as 'The UK reversing Brexit and rejoining'. What the UK can do is apply for membership as any any other European non-EU member. And try to meet the Copenhagen criteria. And finally hope that they will be voted in by the 27 EU member states.
You were right the first time. About as much chance of reversing Brexit as reversing the direction of a tornado, just not going to happen, there would be outrage like what France is getting now. I have absolutely ZERO desire to go back to eu, no thank you, the once was enough, we now have the CPTPP waiting for us. That sums it up, I think.
He's a liar. OBR *never* forecast a net loss of 4% GDP. That is the anti brexit LIE. The _forecast_ (and that's all it was), was 4% loss in *growth of GDP* over 15 years. Anti brexiters are *liars.* They only ever lie.
The problem is the younger generation are apathetic because they don't have much faith in the political process BUT what this really demonstrates is if you don't vote, things can and will get a lot worse!
Remoaner fallacy. The vote went with Brexit, and that was 7 years & 4 months ago!! CPTPP are waiting for us, trade without political undertones, how good is that?
@@lesskeels3417 rubbish, no trading arrangement isn’t without rules and agreements that we might not necessarily like. This new trading arrangement will never replace the trade lost with our neighbours.
I think a rejoining will take decades instead of wishful years. At the moment the EU is relatively happy that the British are no longer a blocker for reforms and unity. Many countries in the EU really dislike the British for their special concessions in the past and do not want a "spoiled child" in their group anymore. Since you need approval of all nations in the EU for joining the UK may need to work really hard on the diplomatic level to polish their reputation. If it was Scotland or Northern Ireland alone a rejoining would not be that difficult since they still have a good reputation but even they would need to do some back-rubbing.
The Elgin marbles will have to be returned. Other issues such as off shore banking in crown dependencies such as the Isle of Man, the channel Islands and further afield will be cleaned up. Now let's take a look at Gibraltar 😂
Money laundering, dodgy electoral system. God we are so far from the Copenhagen criteria already. In two years we'll be so far away from the the Hubble telescope couldn't see us
The Elgin marbles should be returned. Calling them the Elgin marbles is already highly inappropriate. They were looted in the same way the Nazis looted museums during WWII.
I'm going with NO. For the same reason that we were vetoed 70+ times during our 47-year membership, so once more isn't going to make much of a difference
Well GB would have better chances than UK, but my bet would be not on UK rejoining, but on Scotland and maybe later England and Wales joining for the first time. The current situation of the UK with NI issues with IRL and Gibraltar issues with ESP and the de facto English Empire status over Scotland and Wales could not be maintained upon admission to a stronger, hopefully more principled based EU.
Consttutional changes should ALWAYS be decided by a super majority vote. Been saying this since 2016. Meanwhile 1.5 million UK passport holders were disenfranchised from voting in the referendum (b) including me and all my British family. My son has now changed his citizenship. Wise move.
The UK was dragged out of the EU by the votes of just 38% of the total electorate. I find it worrying that the majority were ignored at the time of the referendum and are being ignored again in discussions about some form of rejoining or closer cooperation.
The small boats issue is a great distraction from what is happening with legal immigration (increase in non-EU immigrants to replace EU immigrants in the labour force ...)
This may happen in the UK. There is a view that non eu immigrants may be fast tracked on nationality status and be employed in the police/ military. Time will tell.
The small boats is a Conservative government manufactured situation. There is a reason they haven't even once looked at employing far more people to approve or disprove asylum applications. They actively want a huge backlog. Currently it's their only semi-popular policy other than supporting Ukraine. The right wing media work with them. And people like Gary Lineker get censored.
Farage said it, he wants to see more people from the commonwealth than from Europe. I guess European people are too white and Christian for him. Enjoy the Kalergui plan
A look at different options for the UK if it seeks closer union with the EU. studio.ua-cam.com/users/videoNmRr0zQ21Rs/edit
I don't want closer Union with the EU.
I voted to leave it.
You are a total liar.
your a dick m8 look at the state of the place cause of you me and many others believedthe liers
Rejoining the single market, won't be an option, as the EU don't want the bother of part deals. We we have to apply wholeheartedly or stay out, although recent noises have been made about allowing us back on more or less same terms that we left, ie no Euro or Schengen.
I have news for you: it's up to us in the EU to decide who joins and who does not.
At present the UK fails to meet 30 out of the 59 requirements of the accession criteria.
Come back in 2070 when you might finally meet them.
Other than that: those of us member states that profit from Brexit will veto you.
Greetings from the EU
When you are used to privilege equality feels like oppression
Yep, how dare they want the same rights I have - We're British you know..
Brexit has never been carried out completely and therefore not given a proper chance. If politicians dare to reverse things and try to get us back into the EU without consulting the British public it will show exactly what a sham our so called "democracy" is.
Throw the "royal family" into Public Housing.
@@robertsmith5744 I mean, technically...
@@celticlofts You are "British" do you mean you are better then Europeans?
I am now 80, but because I am neither stupid nor demented, I voted to remain in the EU.
I am old enough to remember 1973, when Britain was “the sick man of Europe “ and we were desperate to join the EEC (as it was then).
We kept begging to join, but de Gaulle kept vetoing our membership.
Eventually, under Edward Heath, we were allowed to join.
The EU made us prosperous again.
But in 2015 greedy extremely wealthy people - notably multi-millionaires Farage and Reese-Mogg - wanted to leave.
Why? The EU was planning a crackdown on offshore tax-evasion schemes used by the wealthy.
The wealthy protagonists conned the public with LIES about how much better we would be outside the EU.
The public had been primed by decades of anti-EU propaganda in gutter press media, like the Daily Fail. It sells papers.
We were told we would save £350 M a week, which we could give to the NHS.
The reality is that being outside the EU now COSTS us £400 M a week. Plus staff shortages in the NHS.
We do 50% of our trade with the EU, even after 6 years of Brexit. But that trade now has added costs and mountains of paperwork which we did not have inside the EU.
I hope to see the main con-artists of Brexit, greedy Farage and Reese-Mogg, put on trial for treason.
(Treason is damaging your own country for personal gain.)
Harry your well off your eggs with that one , you believed all the guff, WE never got a Referendum to join the EEC , When asked a few year after Heath joined the EEC why not, he answered the People would have voted NO , Also Jeff Taylor put up a UK Annual Growth Graph from the World Bank 1961 to 2021 on You Tube EEC /EU Membership did nothing for the UK ,, growth was pretty stagnant during EU Membership.
The tipping point reason for the UK to support Brexit was the Syrian 2014, 2015 immigration crisis. "Regain control of out borders" - Thank you Merkel for the most pronounced blunder of your political career on the “Bundes” chancellor level at least.
UK: Please re-join the EU. You need us and we need you asap!
- You can have your discounts back. Al rich EU countries have some discounts already.
@@douglastodd1947 that is an outright lie about what Heath said
@@douglastodd1947 and that is another outright lie about growth, the UK has grown 102% - why do you bother lying ?
Well said Sir !
12:19 The assumption is the EU wants the UK back in the EU.
Membership of the EU requires compliance with the “four freedoms” - goods, people, capital, services, and compliance with that requires acceptance of EU Standards and Regulations, which, until 2019, UK helped formulate.
This was explained patiently by Michel Barnier to the various poorly briefed British government ministers during the Brexit negotiations. The UK can’t cherry pick.
One should not overlook the fundamental historical reason behind the existence of the EU which was to prevent another major war in Europe by ensuring that the economies of European countries are so intertwined as to make it impossible.
The reality Brexit has strengthened the EU and weakened UK.
After seeing the disaster for the UK of brexit, support for leaving the EU in other EU countries has waned significantly.
"The assumption is the EU wants the UK back in the EU."
This is the big one: the UK doesn't seem to remember how difficult that was the last time. Even UK Citizens wanting to rejoin the EU seem to think it's a matter of the UK making a phone call and being invited in the next day. To even be allowed to start the process of -re- joining the UK will have to convince the EU that it really has changed and won't act in the way it did last time it was a member. This may make some time and certainly will take a lot more humility.
And yes, Barnier had the patience of a saint...
I accept that the UK will have to accept the four freedoms of the EU before it rejoins, however suggesting that Brexit has helped the EU is simply a lie, Brexit has weakened the UK a lot but has certainly not made the EU stronger, Covid and Russia made the EU more agile.
I do wish people on here would stop spreading mis-formation that the EU somehow glad Brexit happened and now is winning loads because of it, it is almost as silly as saying the UK is better off because of Brexit
Besides ,could you imagine the UK sending yet again similar malevolent dregs of the English political undergrowth to Strasbourg. I'm afraid that the memory of Widdicombe's and Farage's tenures will live on among member states for a long, long time.. As my Sopttish granny would say "Ye cannae trust them as far as ye could throw them.". One dose of that has been enough for a few decades.That's what it's about. Nobody trusts the UK any more. Your politicians have done a magnificent job of destroying the UK's credubility.
The final paragraph should read: "Other countries' support for leaving the EU has weakened significantly after witnessing the level of disaster that Brexit caused to the UK."
@@BinkyTheGoddessDivine That's it, that's the final benefit, it was not a financial benefit, it did not make the EU stronger on the well stage which I would argue would be the biggest measure of success. Also eventually EU citizens will forget Brexit, so that itself was a short term benefit.
The UK still doesn't grasp what the EU is about. Even with all the talking of rejoining I alway hear: "What is best for us (UK)?" instead of "What is best fo us (Europe)?"
The EU is still a beloved scapegoat for all your misery (Dover). For once the Brexit weldet the EU together and silenced all the Nexit/Grexit/Poexit jabber, but I am not sure who is to credit for that UK or Russia. 10 years ago, I even wished Russia to join the EU, but it seems COVID also inflicted severe brain damage.
The EU is about joining forces and evening out the hardships for the welfare and peace of as much as possible. For Germans it wasn't easy to adopt the € (50% loss over DMark) but it helped weaker countrys to catch up and join the market as producers and customers.
Brexiteers : We don't want to pay contribution, We don't want foreigners taking jobs, We don't want rules dictated by Brussels. Remainers : We are loosing to much look at the damage inflicted. We do agree we need rules and together with others We are standing stronger. For me it's obvious the Uk is way to much about own intrest no matter which side they are on. I don't think at the moment the UK is ready to think more globally and is an asset to Europe to take back.
@@netcurtains and what benefits have you gained from the uk becoming a 3rd country
yes. the UK should have not even participated in the build of the tunnel- it should have been canceled. Uk is always the cash cow for the EU- the french company even wanted the UK gov. to bail out the quasi bankrupt tunnel enterprise.
@@jonsimmons4150 and now the tunnel is a great success
@@ozzie2612 bankrupted millions of small shareholders. Much fanfare, 15 years later junk stock, the french company. even tried the get the UK gov. Bail it out with taxpayers money just within the last few years. Fail!
It seems to me that the UK suffers from a collective amnesia - they all seem to have forgotten the state of the British economy back when they applied for EEC membership. The UK was referred to as 'The Sick Man of Europe' in the early 70's due to her miserable economy.
and we are right back there even sicker this time at least them we had industries
@@damienmorrison7226: Yes loss making industries that were costing the tax payers a fortune. It's what had Britain on its knees.
@LarsPallesen Jeff Taylor put up a Graph of UK Annual Growth 1961 to 2021 obtained from the World Bank. We were called that by EU Commission in an attempt to hide the fact UK Joining EU 1972 cost us money , there was No Benefit to show for the UK joining Growth was basically Stagnant or below normal .
Yes, it was due to a perfect storm and we will recover quickly.....meanwhile in EU how are things? I hear now less than 15% of global GDP despite expansion compared to EEC 80s at just under 30%.
@@gnrseanra9070 This perfect storm applied to all of Europe not just the UK and still you performed worse than EU's average so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
It's even worse if you consider how badly you performed despite being the least exposed to russian energy.
As I said, EU's average GDP growth was higher than the UK's so things are looking good - thanks for asking!
UK's businesses come to EU to escape brexit's red-tape and London's power as a financial hub is eroding with ever increasing pace as businesses in the sector move to EU's financial centres in Germany, France and Netherlands.
As many foresaw, brexit did not make UK stronger but the EU and we can only thank brexiteers for that!
Of course with the UK as a TRUE team-member, EU would have been even stronger and ALL of us would be better off, but the UK preferred to be USA's "with you whatever" lackey instead all these years.
So thanks but... no thanks! You turned out to be a burden not an asset and we do not want you back!
MAYBE one day when britons will realise that they have been shafted and demonstrate their TRUE commitment to the European ideal, EU's door will re-open to accept them not just as EQUAL members of the European market but MORE IMPORTANTLY as EQUAL members of the European society!
number 7 is a non starter, the EU had a bad experience of what happens when they loosen the criteria to accommodate the UK. Instead of bringing them in it created an environment of privilege and perceived exceptionalism
If anything, I believe the EU will be much harsher on the UK if they apply to join
And lets not forget that this is not a decision for the "EU" but for the commission, the EU parliament and in the end, each one of the 27 member states, all of them capable of vetoing the request
I'm sure they would let us back in, as our free money would help them greatly.
Don't worry, the Uk won't be asking to join anytime soon as it would be implausible to join a bankrupt club 👍
@@andrewtaylor6737 The EU is not bankrupt. It is actually doing better than the UK and not waiting or hoping the UK will one day return.
As a percentage of world trade the EU is shrinking rapidly while the CPTPP is growing exponentially. But you seem to forget we still trade with the EU, in fact our trade is growing with them and now we can have free trade will the Worlds biggest trade block. Even better we don't have to pay £22 billion a year for the privilege. You should be celebrating along with us Brexiteers.
@@garyb455 Please ! Don't tell them this fact, whilst their precious EU diminishes year upon year.
They certainly won't than us anytime soon, as they are so convinced their EU utopia is strong and United.
I doubt it. As a Swede I can say that we lost a lot of power in the EU when the UK left as the UK provided a counterweight to the continental countries and those that are more open towards transfering wealth from the north to the south. Scandinavia would love to see the UK back in the union as I expect the other countries such as Austria and the Netherlands who joined the frugal four would. As net contributers to the union we have quite a lot of say in these matters within the union. Additionally, the economic impacts of Brexit has not only hurt the UK but also the other member countries as sensitive supply chains and inter country partnerships had to be reshaped which means that the financial incentives exist for EU member countries as well. Finally, the Ukraine crisis has proven that a strong Europe is necessary for us collectively to push back against the great powers when they go on a power trip. We cannot accept to be squeezed between countries like the US, Russia and China going forward and this is something that is easier to achieve when we have a unified continent and the britbongers on board.
I remember a spokesperson from EFTA saying no way to the UK joining them, in her words 'it would be like inviting that awful relative to your wedding, the one who always gets drunk and starts a fight'. De Gaul was probably right too.
The UK was a founder member of EFTA, so I am not sure why current members should take the 'awful relative' view. The UK has long favoured intergovernmental rather than federal/supranational collaboration.
Oh you remember that do you???????
I remember the foundation of the European Free Trade Association. It was in 1960. I was seven.
I remember it because the UK was a founding member. I dare you to Google it.
"Europe is France and Germany.. the rest is the trimmings"
- *Charles De Gaulle*
@@jonsimmons4150
Let me hide behind the British until the war is over…..
- Charles De Gaul
@@rosshilton he ran away!
If the UK wants to rejoin but expects to keep all the previous perks, they might face backlash from the EU. The EU could say, "If you don't want Schengen and the eurozone, rejoining is a no-go." It's a bit ironic since the UK previously enjoyed special treatment and deals, yet they still had the classic Anglo-Saxon ego for pursuing their own interests as if we were their oppressors. This kind of thinking, where the Anglo-Saxons want special deals, is frustrating for Europe and beyond.
Why in the world should the EU like to see UK join without Euro? Surprising idea! It seems totally obvious to me that the UK lost any special treatments or advantages it had in the EU.
It's not all about special treatment. My understanding is that The European Central Bank is partially underwritten by the UK. That indemnification would disappear if Britain changed over to the Euro.
@@thelleftaremad7556 They don't need money. They want trading partners, customers and businesses.
@@thelleftaremad7556 *"So why ask for it then?"* - Because bureaucracy doesn't pay for itself and there are many benefits to be had from investing in the Single Market. Now the UK is gone, managing the Single Market is cheaper so they don't need our contribution.
@@thelleftaremad7556 What I don't understand is people who resented paying £20 billion/year to be part of the EU but who are nevertheless happy to pay £150 billion/year to be out of the EU.
@@thelleftaremad7556 *" So its to pay for unelected bureaucrats?"* - You can't run an organization without bureaucracy. Why would anyone want to elect beaurocrats? They are pen pushers. They have no power to make laws. Only elected bodies in the EU can enact laws and make political decisions.
The biggest taboo is still that the Brexiteers have sent 930.000 hard working people away. Now the arrogant English have huge labour shortages in the NHS, hospitality, farming, transport, factories, you name it. Nobody except a few entrepreneurs dare say this. Total taboo, even on this channel.
930,000 ppl who ran the wages down, used public services and created enclaves.
Arrogant how people diike their own country appalling g enty of people here to do them jobs whst about the people who have nevervworked doing them
Brexiteers are the hard working people, let down by cheap labour. Employers playing the , we need to compete horse sxxt.
@@jonathansimmons5353 ye its ALL their fault 🤦♀
Nurses have left for Australia. I know many here
If the UK doesn't want to become a committed member of the EU sometime in the future, but wants to hold onto the pound, the obvious solution is stay out of the EU.
The pound! Blue passports [printed in France apparently].! Feet, inches, ounces pounds [the other kind]! Bring back LSD! We shall fight on the beaches and on the landing grounds.! We shall superglue our minds into the 1940s. We will never surrender!
Well, apart from the polls that say the majority of Brits are regretting Brexit ...
Although the £ will only be worth 20 eurocents
True that, and I fully agree. But have you considered the other side of the medal? The UK joining the € means those disaster capitalists and pirates get a say in our currency. We have seen what a Truss can do in a few days of governing. Their own currency has been in decline for decades, so maybe we should think twice about even letting them come close to membership.
Sterling is growing less and less in importance as the years progress and this process will not reverse.......the Euro may ultimately be the only option for the UK but who knows.
@@fitzstv8506 your phrasing will be confusing for the average brexiter.
Surely "growing" is a good sign innit?
Leaving the EU has been undoubtedly bad for Britain, but the EU have done well out of it. They still export a lot of food and manufactured goods to the UK - the proximity of Europe means that it's the easiest and cheapest place to buy stuff from - and the UK government haven't imposed import controls because it would just impose more costs on consumers and UK businesses. Most importantly, the EU has attracted a significant chunk of financial services from London to Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris and Dublin, and they like the tax revenue which goes with it. Brexit has been good for Europe - they are not going to give that up, however much we beg and plead. Turkey have more chance of joining than we do.
Imported goods added tax that goes into uk coffers, and makes local uk produce more attractive pricewise and enables uk companies to grow, and keeps jobs in the UK.
Nowt wrong ther!!!
@@jonsimmons4150 Unfortunately, the import tax will be added to the price that customers pay, so we'll all be poorer,and until climate change really kicks in we can't grow bananas, Oranges, pineapples, etc in the UK.
@@jimparlett4099 those fruits dont grow in the UK.
Funny, you can buy them in japan tho- and they dont grow there either..
@@jimparlett4099 yes we can and do you fool !
Don't forget all the migrants they send us.
The UK can always petition do become a US territory. It would be on a par with Puerto rico.
No way 😂
They would have to accept the name "Airstrip One."
hilarious
The EU is not a gym, where you can suspend your membership for a few weeks or months and then rejoin. It's entirely possible for the UK to rejoin but that will take a generation. The British people had their say through a referendum and decided to leave. However, it looks like they have changed their minds. Now it's too late, the British electorate should have been better informed about the negative consequences of Brexit.
The british electorate was informed about the negative consequences over and over again, but choose to ignore them
@@Gunbold i agree, we blame people like nigel farage and david cameron for playing their part but at the end of the day it was the people who voted to leave and their decision
What makes you think that all member states will agree to accept the UK back in???, And most likely force the UK to accept the euro as a currency, UK won't be in the EU again
They can stick their soon to be worthless euro where the sun doesn't shine !
How's the main German bank doing ? 😉
Yep, they probably won't want us back in for a couple of decades at least - we've very publicly made a complete arse of ourselves, but who knows what might change in 20 years. As for the Euro, at the moment I don't think there is any way to force the adoption of it is there? A member state has to make a pledge to agree they will adopt it, but anyone can end up doing a Sweden. Anyway no one knows
@@tableface77 Most Europeans do not want back Britain that always fought against everything rational, and adamantly supported all the irrational things like driving on the wrong side of the road and using imperial measurements. Hundreds s of thousands of doctors and nurses, engineers and carpenters etc. educated on the taxpayers' dime all over Central and Eastern Europe and braindrained by Britain are actually needed in their homecountries. Nobody East of the Elbe will ever vote for such a merciless braindrain to be possible again. Sorry, but the UK will not be taken back on board. Brexit was a good riddance, after all. By the time Britain can raise the issue of returning, like in 2040 or 2050, the UK will be Pakistan 2.0, and in no position to become a net contributor in the EU. By that time the indigenous European population will flee the country, except for the oldest and the dumbest people.
Necessity is the mother of invention!
Hmm brexit voter doesn't watch video , gets triggered by headlines
A status like Norway or Switzerland ? I hope you're kidding. To have the same status as Norway or Switzerland, you already need the agreement of the EU and then you need the agreement of the members of the very closed club of EFTA. And one of these members, Norway has already made it known that this option is not possible. Norway would refuse to allow Great Britain to become a member of EFTA if the request were made by the British government
There is no swiss deal on the table ever. The EU are regretting this deal and renegotiating. So no way back short of membership and that has no chance
There was NEVER a 'Swiss Deal' on the table for the UK, or any other country.
As far as the EU is concerned, that ONLY applied to Switzerland when that country seemed to be on track to join the EEC.
In fact, the 'Swiss Deal' is not even on offer to Switzerland any more.
There is NO prospect of the UK joining the European Free Trade Association(EFTA), mainly because that organisation's members do NOT have a death wish. Admitting the UK would change that small, cozy club of small, rich countries with a legal commitment to the Freedom of Movement of People(FoM) into 'The UK, with some powerless and insignificant bits hanging on to it..."
Norway and Iceland have BOTH stated that they will veto any UK membership application.
@@gloin10 I admire your stamina for this groundhog day discussion.
That is only if the agreement is explicitly part of the EFTA. A bilateral customs union agreement with the European union could be negotiated that was in essence the same.
@@Jay_Johnson no it can't it is not on offer and the UK is not trusted to keep any agreement. So no that is impossible
As long as the UK citizens see in the EU only the economy part they should not rejoin. This is and was happening in the last 50 years and Brexit was the result.
Blaming only Boris Johnson for this is not correct because 15+ millions voted for this.
The EU is changing without the permanent blocking of the UK in a United Europe in the long term. The war of Russia in the Ukraine shows that from the military side the EU has to have their own protection and not depending only on the US.
Totally agree with your comment, Europe is more than a large market, Europe is a project for the future, with high levels of well-being, security and freedoms. We must be the mirror where the rest of the world can see itself
You conveniently overlook the fact that the EU wasn't what we originally voted to join.
Britain voted way in a referendum back in the 70's to join an economic free trade zone. Then Europe pulled a bait and switch and morphed it into a political union, which our government never asked our consent for.
We Brits have made our feelings perfectly clear - we don't want any part of your "European Project".
If you insist on using economics to blackmail us, then we're better off without you and your duplicity no matter the resulting economic hardship.
I'd rather be poor but free, than slightly less poor but under the thumb of a European Government.
@CarlosGarcia-gs1wd
High levels of well being, security and freedoms? HELLO??? Do you think the French are feeling like they have high well being right now? Do you think they feel secure, with their annual terror attacks?
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NATO has kept Europe secure for the last 50 years, not the EU.
You're spouting a fantasy. Europe is crumbling.
@@Edithae Great. Then we agree that the UK should not rejoin. Good luck.
@@Edithae eu was a political project as well as an economic project long before uk applied to join. So your claim that uk was tricked into it, is complete bulshit.
It’s not so much whether Britain wanting to rejoin but whether the EU will let the UK back in. In a few generations maybe but definitely not in the near future.
😅😅😅😅 uk aint joining back ya knobhead
That’s exactly the attitude that made it fail..
@@oneeleven9832 Made what fail? Brexit? You just don’t get it; Brexit was never going to work. You should at least have stayed within the single market.
ofcus the brits are welcome. will always be
But it would be nice if the reasons for joining was down to beong onboard with the longterm political vision of an ever closer union, rather than just for economic reasons
@@martinwinther6013 I hear you. Being British myself, the majority of them just don’t think like that though.
1 reason why those 7 reasons won't matter: EU countries will have figured out that they can move along just fine without UK interference and will therefore put up all kinds of obstacles (rightly so) in the way of a Rejoin.
Well said, and even better reasoned, wish there were more level-headed people like you.
The only obstacle will be no more special exemptions and priviledges.
@@frenchimp Just as I thought. In other words, you do as we tell you to do now. One answer: Get lost!!
By EU countries don't you mean Germany, France and its slaves?
Well as a person who voted to leave i have to say to the EU. PLEASE PROMISE TO NEVER LET THE UK REJOIN!! You are now our best chance to make brexit work. The real unspoken reason for brexit was the utter distrust and contempt ordinary British people have for our political class. Brexit is our only chance to bring them to heel and discipline them 😊😊 thank you EU ❤
I'm not an economist but it doesn't seem logical to throw up trade barriers with our doorstep market to pursue trade deals with countries on the other side of the world while the world is moving towards localised supply chains? In anycase, what's to stop the EU (A much bigger market) from striking the same trade deals or improving upon them? The whole Brexit trade deals seems to be pushed by a government desperately trying to justify a flawed ideology and really not what the country needs right now
"The whole Brexit trade deals seems to be pushed by a government desperately trying to justify a flawed ideology and really not what the country needs right now"?
This!
Oh, and an ongoing denial of economic and geographical reality....
The EU will form a partnership with the CPTPP infact I would be surprised if they are not in discussion already.
lol and what great trade deals! We couldn't even reach a trade agreement with the US, because they wanted to stiff us so badly even the Conservative government wouldn't give in to their one-sided demands! We made a great deal with Oceania so they could supply us cheap meat with no restrictions and completely kill British farmers. Even the New Zealand media were scratching their heads as to why we agreed to the terms they were so favourable to NZ. It's been an absolute shambles.
It’s not a trading block but a political block so please stop your nonsense
@@gordonfleming458 So the European single market was just a figment of our imagination? Thanks for the Brexiteer perspective, economics 101....
The UK only regret for economic reasons.
The EU is much more than that and until the UK become pro EU for more than selling products then I for one dont want to see them back in the union.
What other reasons would there be? The EU is an economic union.
@@TheSm1thers It's not, it's a peace project!
@@marinusvos Yes and peace is what brexiters voted for as well since they were deceived into believing the EU would form an army for conquest
I know some people who started regretting it as soon as they realised it would be harder to go to Europe for holidays. Somehow thinking we'd still have all the benefits we used to have, idk y they thought that
@@marinusvos The European Union isn't what has brought peace its NATO that has done that which the UK was a founding member along side the USA is still part of
Joining do not depend only on UK will, it depends from other member to accept.
And if one says no your out, oh and we have to meet certain criteria which we dont
Lets be honest though. They're not going to reject one of the richest countries in Europe. It only benefits them having UK in the EU.
@@chickenmadness1732 You might be surprised.
@@chickenmadness1732 Nope, UK voted oout, so let them stay out. We make much better without UK.
@@chickenmadness1732
"They're not going to reject one of the richest countries in Europe"?
First, I am glad to hear that you think you can forecast the future foreign policies of 27 separate sovereign, independent countries.....
Second, the UK, in terms of per capita GDP, is sliding rapidly down the European league table.
Ireland passed it by back in 1996.
Slovenia has, or very shortly will have, a better average standard of living than the UK. Poland is forecast to do the same by 2030.
The UK is basically a poor country, getting rapidly poorer, with a small number of very rich people living there.
Back in reality,, there is NO appetite for even considering the UK's FOURTH membership application.
POST-Brixit, we have discovered that our union functions far better without having the UK around, dragging its feet and demanding opt-outs.
"It only benefits them having UK in the EU"?
Our collective experience in the period between 1973 and 2016, while the UK was a full, albeit semi-detached, member of the EEC/EC/EU provides very strong evidence that the opposite was the case....
It takes two to tango and some EU countries have wtill more to gain than lose by the UK's absence. Maybe in a few decades but not in the foreseeable future.
What does the EU have to gain with the UK's absence?
The absence of the UK removes the most discordant voice and obstacle to ‘more’ Europe and going further whatever that means. But even without the UK, the EU is struggling to,define a purpose. Without the UK, the EU has lost a pragmatic voice at the table. But the UK has also lost and gained. For six years it has lived the illusion that by leaving the EU and severing ties to its neighbour it would regain former glory and prosperity. While Brexiteers admit that Brexit has not boosted the economy and delivered prosperity they either say that that is because of Covid and the war in Ukraine or that prosperity is not the point. Rather UK citizens can continue to measure distance in miles, buy meet in pounds and travel with unique blue passports.
The union is crumbling, UK rejoining the EU is like shackling a race horse with oxen.
[GDP Nominal, source IMF]
1995 EU 7.5 trillion, US 7.5 Trillion, China 650 Billion ,
2022 EU 14 Trillion, US 23 Trillion, China 17 Trillion , the union is one big failure.
I'll be honest, I live in a EU country as a former Brit, now a legal resident of my adopted country, and I have got to be honest, the only people talking about Brexit now are the few British expats that are left, and most of them have had to go home as they were living illegally over here, we moved on ages ago, no one talks about the UK with regard to politics anymore at all, it's just, another 3rd country.
@@stevesheppardmusic Exactly we all doing ok
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I agree but there’s gonna be one huge war before this
as long as the mentality -as displayed in this video as well - is that countries like Poland "wisely don´t take the €" I hope any application of the UK/England is consigned to the bin.
phew a relief!!
Nice video! what short memories we have. I went to work in Germany for much higher wages in the 1980's
Yep. But in those days British workers had done apprenticeships and were highly skilled. Now the Polish people who left brexit UK are the ones working there
And me to France and Belgium in the 90's .
me too
@@jillybe1873 I was 19 and had never done any manual labour in my life. earned money through building sites till I could become an English teacher
A la augweidersien pet
27 reasons why it won't be admitted. 27 sovereign parliaments saying NO
Michael that might not be the case in 10 or 20 years.
@@Purple_flower09 Oh,I think you might be amazed how long British obnoxiousness will stay in the memory of the EU.
@@Purple_flower09 Wrong. It will be the case for 40-50 years. We 🇨🇵 have a bloody long memory.
Agree 100% with you. Totally. Now can you please explain that to some of these idiots here that seem to believe it won't (don't ask me, ask THEM).
@Jonathan Stone the UK won't be around.
The British mind of "reluctant European" or "we and the Continent" is on what euroscepticism and brexit movement stemmed and grew.
Rejoining the EU for money but staying as a reluctant European may end up in 2nd brexit some day.
Precisely why the EU will be slow to read it Britain and if it does it would be without the special,treatment that it should never have received first time round.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 If we'd been given a referendum the first time round, we'd never have joined the EEC. It's no coincidence that the people who are old enough to remember our pre-EEC days were more likely to vote Leave.
exactly. That is why we call the next membership application groundhog day.
@@peterc.1618 you had a confirmation referendum the first time round.
@@ab-ym3bf And we've now had a "once in a generation" referendum where the majority voted Leave so let's leave.
I’m sorry but despite its seemingly detailed analysis, I have several issues with this video!
I am dual national - British and German and spend my time roughly split between the two countries. I also happen to own a house in France.
1) This video glibly goes into great detail about British demographics and the possible shift in opinion amongst the British electorate.
At no stage is it acknowledged that the people in the 27 Member States may not want to ever allow the British back into the E.U! And, all 27 must agree.
The people of the UK have manifestly suffered as a result of Brexit, whether they are in the camp that can admit it or not. However, so did people within the E.U suffer because of Brexit and all of the uncertainty that it brought for years.
All the years that Britain spent in the UK were spent bleating and moaning on the margins and never genuinely embracing the Union.
The German press and media’s initial stupefied shock, following Brexit, has now given way to daily ridicule of the consequences it has had for the British. As a consequence, the atmosphere amongst the German population is now one of Schadenfreude…delight in the misery the Brits have stupidly brought upon themselves. The narrative is now one of “Good riddance….and never again!”
I doubt the atmosphere is much different in the other 26 countries.
2) You say, words to the effect: “Who knows perhaps one day in the future British workers may even be seeking to go east into Europe for better economic prospects…..”
BUT, you still say it with a mocking smile on your faces as if you’ve cracked a cheeky little ironic joke. That isn’t remotely a ‘joke’ and it actually just smacks of a continued arrogant assumption in some notional primacy. As if….”Oh! Could you possibly imagine such a thing?!”
3) You mention the UK rejoining but at the same time already in terms of possibly being able to reject the Euro and retain the Pound.
So already, years ahead of any notional rejoining, you’re already laying down caveats and demanding ‘special and exceptional arrangements’ for us! Bleating again…..and you’re not even it! Doesn’t sound too good, does it?
4) You say, “the E.U doesn’t want to be in a perpetual state of friction with the U.K.”
Well, what state do you think it was in, for over four decades whilst the U.K was IN the E.U ? EXACTLY that…..perpetual friction!
In short, the people of the E.U have the say in this…not the British electorate…and they don’t want Britain and its constant bleating, reluctance and its mischief making, unhelpful ways back again. They have no appetite for it. On the contrary….they are sick of Britain and the British. It would be a very brave politician in those countries who suddenly openly starts supporting the U.K’s re-admission. That’s certainly not going to be a vote winner!
Forget it!
I wholeheartedly agree!
The schadenfreude is real.
For decades the UK received its 'extrawurst' because they were 'special'.
What makes any of you morons think Britain wants to be back in the EU. It will never happen the EU is lazy, incompetent and virtually bankrupt hence totally useless.
The Spanish perspective IS what you point out, we are fed up of a colony of retirees Who despise us, think we cannot do without them and create small english speaking villages that look aloof outside.
Moreover, we are the only country where UK has a colony (Gibraltar) a tax haven where dirty money IS laundered f***ng our economy.
Give It Up, I say.
De Gaulle was right, KEEP OUT and good riddance.
Britain may wish it could reverse Brexit and re-join UE. But what makes them think UE would have them back? Their politicians have been nothing but a thorn in the side, since joining. Mainly because they still think they are a World Power, when in fact they are a 'laughing stock'. And secondly, as General deGAULLE said at the time, "Britain would always put American interests BEFORE European ones" He has been proven right time & time again. . One cannot be a member of one team whilst supporting another ! But good luck in the Pacific !
But the USA, due to demographics, will always put the Republic of Ireland before the United Kingdom.
Eu is as currpt as uk parliament
one guy expressing his opinion and everyone has to change their opinion to suit his
@@ChazzyFeve-lh7xs So is your spelling!!
@@barrystubbs983 You could say the same about Nigel Farage. You listen and make your own mind up. You do not take everything as Gospel.
Can't rejoin now UK is joining trans Pacific partnership. So UK left one trading block to join another half way round the world, go figure.
it's so stupid, what a bad government, sorry
Indeed. There is no 'Rejoin ' .
The Brexit car crash can't be un-crashed.
I would go way further there won't be a UK in a few years time ?
We all know Northern Ireland is changing and demographics and time will lead to a Northern Ireland exit from UK. What i am saying isn't that controversial?
How can there be a ' United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ' as a Nation without Northern Ireland?
Scotland and Scotland's Secession isn't going to go away, at some point Scotland will also leave this corrosive Union. There simply won't be a UK !
Dissolution of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland!
😂 indeed
😂😂😂 So do you still believe that this transpacific trade isnt already set with the Eu???? Most of the agreements the UK has accomplished since Brexit were basically the same as the Eu did. Added to that, claiming that the country will shift from one trade bloc and enter another one gives you immediately a glimpse of how disastrous it can be for thousand of businesses out there. This is not as easy as many ppl may think.
Lastly, dropping the biggest single free market over the channel to join another bloc sparse all over the rest of the world IS SO STUPID.😅
The countries in the trans Pacific partnership probably have their own trade agreements with the EU.
UK could apply for EU membership, but my guess it will take years. The EU wants assurances that this wont repeat itself. And that will spell the end of the rebates etc as well as the pound.
IMO it would mean the end of the FirstPastThePost system that lets unrepresentative people - like Brexiters and Liz Truss - to gain power without a genuine majority. The EU would insist on the UK moving to Proportional Representation.
Strange that so few people talk about these obvious aspects.
it would take decades, if ever
And political parties won't even mention the posibility until they think it is a posibility.
I'm 76 ( so well over the 65 year olds who voted to leave because they didn't like Jonny Foreigner). But I and all my similar-aged friends voted to remain because we saw beyond the hype and saw the benefit of belonging to the biggest trading bloc on the planet. Now we depend upon the youngsters to dig us out of the mess that (some of) us oldies created. I'm sorry!
They stole the future, but don't feel guilty - the ammount of fake news tricked people
An ageing population and outdated 1950s style protectionist trading block concepts are exactly what is killing the EU.
In the last 20 years the EU has lost 30% of global market share. It has a massive war in its back garden, which it desperately tries to ignore. It has serious energy problems that are going to destroy its manufacturing sector. It has to import minerals, and it has fallen out with its main source (Russia). Its pension systems are collapsing leading to insurrection (France is just he beginning).
The EU won’t last another decade.
@@rosshilton Yes .. we suffer every day but it's worth it as we have sovereignty
@@rosshilton The EU's trade has increased steadily year on year for decades however the amount of global trade has also increased year on year for decades especially since China began to dominate Global production that gives the impression to naive brexiteers that the EU is somehow declining. The EU is fine it is stable, united and home to the world's second reserve currency, the EU is the only possible future for the countries of Europe to ensure that they remain relevant in a world that is going to be dominated by superpowers and emerging super economies. The UK is neither a superpower nor a super economy it is a mid rank and declining economy and the little influence it has on world affairs at the moment is set to diminish rapidly over the coming decades.
Protesting against the Government in France is a national hobby it happens regularly and always fades away! do you remember the yellow vest protests a few years ago, what happened in the end there?.......the same will happen this time. The French or any other EU country's pension system is not collapsing no more than in the UK or elesewhere however nearly all European countries have to reform their pension systems including the UK.
@@fitzstv8506
No.
1. The EU is slipping in productivity. Average annual growth in labour productivity - measured as real GDP per hour worked - in those euro area countries that have sufficiently long time series has continuously declined from about 7% in the 1960s to just 1% since the early 2000s. That is terrible!
2. The EU is aging. In 2022, more than one fifth (21.1 %) of the EU population was aged 65 and over. The median age of the EU's population is increasing and was 44.4 years on 1 January 2022, meaning that half of the EU's population was older than 44.4 years. It’s only going to get worse.
3. Despite everyone in the EU gleefully telling the World that the UK would be in a recession in early 2023, it isn’t. Germany on the other hand, is in a recession. The EU won’t talk about it, but Germany is in a recession.
4. UK GDP per capita for 2022 is USD 46,300.
The average GDP per capita of the EU is a meagre USD 44,000/year and is spread over 24 languages. The USA GDP is USD 66,000 per capita. Australia is ISD 59,000 per capita, Canada is USD 52,000, New Zealand USD 49,000 The Anglosphere offers a FAR better market potential than the EU, which is a poor mix of languages.
5. The EU economy was driven on cheap Russian gas. The EU had invested over 300 billion euro into the Russian energy sector. That’s gone for ever. Welcome to paying the same for energy as Japan does.
6. The EU doesn’t have the minerals needed for a 21C economy. It was going to buy them off Russia. Good luck with that.
7. The uK wealth: Mean wealth per person across those 440 million people in the EU is not constant. Most are at Developing Nation status - meaning the EU is a de facto empire run by Germany and France. The UK accounted for 17% of the Average Mean Wealth of the EU pre Brexit. The UK had a total mean wealth of US$14,341,029,241,000.00 at the time of Brexit. The UK had the third highest Total Mean Wealth in the EU when it was a member. Only Germany and France had a larger TMW, and France is only 3% higher than the UK. The UK had a Total Mean Wealth that is equal to the sum of the bottom 21 EU nations The UK population has the equivalent to the TMW of 133 million EU citizens. The UK has the second largest Median Wealth in the EU, behind France. The UK has a Total Median Wealth that is equal to the sum of the bottom 22 EU nations.
8. The UK just joined the CPTPP. The CPTPP 12 members now account for over 14% of world output. The Asia-Pacific countries account for about 40 percent of world trade, of which about 70 per cent is used as inputs in production processes elsewhere. It is the engine room of the next 100 years. South Korea, Thailand, the Philippines, China and Taiwan have all applied to join. If/when that happens the CPTPP will be massive, and will incorporate a wide spectrum of nations, from mineral suppliers like Australia, Canada and Chile, to manufacturing giants like Japan Taiwan and China. UK trade with CPTPP is growing by 8% a year. By 2030 over 65% of the worlds 5.4 Billion Middle Class consumers will be in the CPTPP, and demand by members will increase by 70%. Even now CPTPP member countries have a combined population of 500 million and GDP of £9 trillion. For reference, although the EU is a similar size, with a GDP of £11 trillion - that GDP is falling.
The EU is in the shit.
Commentators keep saying it was the over 65s who voted to leave. Not My experience. The group of people I travelled all over the EU several times a year for twenty years, with a local coach tour company who specialised in European tours, all wanted to remain. These were retired, comfortably well off travellers , drawn from a group of about 150 regulars, who enjoyed the continental cultures and foods, and the lack of restrictions on days spent in the EU. I got the impression those who regularly travelled the EU wanted to remain, the ones who had never travelled the EU other than the resorts in Spain or France wanted out.
Indeed. Rural less aware people who never have been in other countries than the UK, how can such people ever understand the magnitude of their decision or choice.
@@svenvandevelde1 i did. and i lived 23 years in europe, and even emigrated to a sovereign nation in the pacific to get out of the EU..
Absolutely right, We experienced the same during our extended stays with our family we were able to directly associate with UK nationals living and working in the EU. They were of the opinion we had learned nothing in the last 40 years relating to world order and subsequently our authoritarian demise.
@@stuart3878 "Europes authoritarian"
-Napoleon, hitler, franco, salazar, ceaucescu, etc etc.
Looked thru, no sign of a UK equivalent...
Thus "European authoritarian" is correct.
@@jonsimmons4150 Oh, let's forget those countries we acquired in the Commonwealth. Democracy has several servants and we are historically one of the worst. Too intermate that we have only defended not attacked is an absolute fallacy. There is a world outside of Europe and we have not behaved particularly ethically anywhere. Unfortunately, we are rapidly becoming the great unloved and ignored.
It takes two to tango. Britain may want to rejoin, but EU citizens are becoming less and less willing to take the UK back on board. By the time old Brexiteers all die out and present-day young people become middle-aged, the UK will be irreversibly changed to Pakistan 2.0. Indigenous Europeans are a minority in London and many big cities already. By 2040, the indigenous population will be a tiny minority fleeing the country. Most Europeans will not feel any more that the UK is a European country. Why should it be invited to a club of Europeans?
India will own most UK assets by then. Just as TATA does already in the UK car industry.
UK.Stay where you are.If you return to EU you can bring lot of troubles. Stay,be your own,better for everybody.
I never want to join theceu so I don't care if they don't want. I know utube are an American organisation and Americans didn't us to leave the eu but soo many anti brexit videos can they stop and can we hear the other side. There must be another viewpoint u tube is getting Iike the bbc one sided
The EU countries have quit worrying since the first Brexit extension. They don’t want the smug back
I’m not sure they would welcome us back. The damage has been done.
@@Buckets1000 so that's a no then
The European Commission is the institution which has the legal power to declare that an applicant country has met the Copenhagen Criteria for EU membership, and should therefore be granted the status of a recognised applicant country like Moldova, Ukraine, and the Balkan countries.
HOWEVER, the final decision about conferring that status lies with the European Council, composed of the 27 ELECTED Heads of State/Government of the EU's member states.
UNANIMOUS approval is required, and it only takes ONE country to veto. They do not have to justify their veto.
The lordly British assumption that "If this Brixit thing doesn't work out, we'll just rock up to Brussels and tell them we're back and things will return to normal" is rather deluded.
Even if you do call ahead so that us poor European peasants can roll out the red carpet...
The EU is NOT going to even contemplate UK membership for a generation.
Given that the UK itself is highly unlikely to survive another ten years, the question is basically moot anyway.
The UK does not meet the Copenhagen criteria. The EU would be wary of allowing the UK back in lest a future government lead by the likes of Rees Mogg, Bone, Farage, Widdecombe, Johnson aided and abetted by News Corp run another campaign to leave again.
The eu should say only if uk joins the schengen and ditch the pound for the euro
bro we are best country in Europe they sure as hell will let us back
I really don't see EU re-admitting UK ever.
Not the UK, but some constituent parts might rejoin sooner than you think.
Am I bothered !
Hopefully
I'm British i hope and pray not.
An easy way for the UK to reenter the EU would be to become part of the Republic of Ireland!
The United kingdom of Ireland and Britain with Leo as queen.😂😂😂
That’s crazy.
That'll happen when the UK cuts its nose off to psite its face. Oh Wait they already did that.
No
Yes, it could become part of a Greater Ireland.
You make it sound like the choice to rejoin the EU is up to the UK...
🤣
Yeah, he does.
It's a Brixit, more specifically English, exceptionalism thing, innit?
The basic idea is that IF their Brixit thingy doesn't work out, they will just rock up in Brussels, possibly calling ahead so that us poor, downtrodden European peasants can roll out the red carpet for them....
And everything will be just as it was....
A bit like that 'Dallas' plot line where a character wakes up in the shower and realises that most of the series was just a dream.....
@@gloin10 STOOPID, the one bad experience we had over 47 years was enough for me to realise that that s***show had ulterior motives towards us. We will stay out. End of.
@@gloin10 The water bill after that dream however was a nightmare.
@@flitsertheo 😂😂😂😂
It is we still own you monkeys
Just gonna say this, if I was an EU nation or citizen, I would vote against letting the UK rejoin.
@@cinkcat-mu2jb because the UK is full of chaos, and does not follow international law. We don't need that.
I miss the love for the European Project from the UK, the discussion there is mostly about money. That it prevents wars within Europe and that Europe might develop into a political entity able to act on the world stage seems to play no significant role. I believe our task is to strengthen the European Unity while preserving the traits of our diverse member states.
Absolutly right. 🤗
"That it prevents wars"-
baloney!
the tactical nuke does.
@@jonsimmons4150 I was referring to the wars within Europe, like the bitter wars between France and Germany.
As EU citizen, my vote is a big NO for UK rejoining.
agree 100%!!!!- keep it up from in Europe!
Why? If they UK meets all the requirements why shouldn't it? People who don't want the UK to re-join add the same amount of division to life as Brexit did in the first place. People were mislead. Not taking that into account and saying NO puts you on the same level as the People who lied about how great Brexit would be.
I'm from the Uk. I agree.
Agree
Like all empires the eu will FALL
All reasons mentioned are about britain rejoining, but none is about Europe accepting.
Today britain announced it joining the trans pacific partnership. Probably a dual membership is excluded.
Europe has evolved into a political block and the free trade is just the kickback for the transfer of national power to Brüssel. Joining just for economic reasons will no longer be an option.
If it was still just an economic free trade zone as it was originally founded, I wouldnt have voted to Leave.
It was Brussels and the EU Parliament was voting against, not free trade.
@@Edithae No! It was found for the political reason to make future wars unlikely through the means of economic interlock. It never was about free trade only and became a political and administrative block before britain joined. You were mislead by the anti- EU propaganda in the yellow press and lied to by the tories. But that's not an excuse but your fault entirely. When you listen to all these brexitards, you always get slogans and propaganda repeated or expressions of xenophobia. They always will say souvereignty is worth the economic downfall. Now you got exactly what you voted for, but unfortunately not (all) you wanted.
@@Edithae it never was "just an economic free trade zone" - that's the problem - you are not informed enough what it was founded for originally.
@@gabrielepichlerEU was never democratic, so it’s not a surprise.
@@itz_yanii378 did not mean the democratc issue.
We must swallow our pride and admit we f***** up. It’s a very very hard pill to swallow
Lol, yeh right 😅😅
What a load of BS
@@miniman7361 what benefits have you got from it then ?
@@netcurtains ye but don't realy count much against 100 billion debt each year it cost us does it
@@ozzie2612 that's the mentality of the brexiteer for you right there , CRAZY
1:13 Many of the older UK generation who were working or retired to Europe and couldn’t or were unable to vote in the referendum. Probably enough to tip the balance in a close vote.
UK citizens (especially those already living, working or retired to Europe, resent having their European Citizenship and Freedom of Movement taken away from by Brexit and limited to 90/180 Schengen days .
Many have already voted with their feet and taken Residency in an EU country.
Others, where they have been able because of, for example, family connections applied for a second passport in an EU country, particularly Eire.
The UK economy is worse for this because they and their children, although still British, will live or work and contribute to the economy of the EU country they are in, rather than UK.
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There is inflation in the EU as well, all though not as high as the UK. And the EU economy is
Gaining huge ground.
Brexit was everything to do with English bigotry and little to do with serious issues. The English can think whatever they like but we Europeans are very glad to be rid of their never ending complaining and whinging. Very few here would accept their return to the EU.
Brexit was all about being vetoed 70+ times over 47 years, reaching the ends of our patience, and doing the only thing we could do in the end, walk out or resign, same as you would with a job (any job) you didn't like or were not appreciated for. I always thought it would end this way, EU are far too big-headed these days with all their subordinate members.
@@lesskeels3417 No, brexit was all about Ignorant English bigotry. That not getting your way, a little over once annually, seems to you to justify stamping your little foot, picking up your toys and sulking is simply pathetic. You know absolutely nothing about me so guessing how I might react to an imagined slight in your imaginary job is nothing short of ridiculous.
@@lesskeels3417 Take your meds, you are the reason the UK left. They wanted to control everything because the still think they won the war. But it was the Americans and the Russians who won the was while you lot huddled in your shelters.
@@lesskeels3417 Brexit was a futile, arrogant and nostalgic attempt by the UK to restore it's long lost influence on global affairs with some xenophobia thrown in for good measure while at the same time blaming the EU for all the UK's home grown issues.
Brexit is so obviously and as predicted failing, the UK is in terminal political and economic decline and anyone who refuses to accept this is naive.
@@lesskeels3417 so we are agreed then? You don't want to be in the EU and we don't want you in our union. Win win.
In contareary of all lies about the single market. One CAN NOT be a member of the single market without being a member of EU.
Membership of the EU's Single Market is restricted to either the 27 EU member states, so-called 'First Countries', or the four members of the European Free Trade Association(EFTA), the 'Second Countries'.
These 31 countries are the membership of the European Economic Area(EEA).
As a very pro-EU EUropean, i'm of course happy to see the shift in thinking especially in the younger generations in regard to Brexit - it has been an incredibly bad idea from the beginning!
What anybody thinking and talking about this topic *MUST* understand - no country can join the EU! Countries can apply to be allowed to join, and it is by far not sure that this request will be answered. Turkey applied for membership in 1987, and they are still out!
There was one real single reason for Brexit and that was ATAD. Nobody in the UK is talking about it. With an application for membership, the UK will have to introduce all ATAD rules and completely change lots of their economic politics and their position in the Commonwealth before serious talks about a new membership can even start, and these talks will certainly contain all 1:1 problems with each single EU member because acceptance requires unanimity! At least France will have a nationwide referendum if they will want to see any new member in.
If we follow your ideas about referenda, mostly elderly people in France will go to vote and they will be provided by the French right wing media with quotes from each stupid thing the UK press has produced over decades and all the nonsense UK politicians have produced about EUrope...
And i have not even started to write about the minimum conditions, new members have to meet - the UK does at the moment meet perhaps 40% of them and is getting further away each month!
The time-limited equivalence for UK is also never mentioned in these discussions. The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025.
@@micheltibon6552 Right! And the allowance to trade EUropean CO² bonds will go even faster. The City of London will look very different to today in just 2 years and a bit...
This morning I saw a news item that the Swiss and the EU will start talks again to work closer with each other. Talks were halted a few years ago. I understand that Swiss uni’s are keen to get access to Horizon. And there are other subjects needed to be discussed.
@@micheltibon6552
"The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025"?
That sentence needs to be amended.
It should read "The likelihood of the City of London losing its approximately €100 trillion Euro derivatives clearing business to the Eurozone by June 2025...is 100%!"
The EU simply CANNOT allow this situation to continue.
The European Central Bank CANNOT tolerate such a massive proportion of euro-denominated clearing taking place in a non-member state.
@@gloin10 I understood from that article I read that there are several possible scenarios in play. The EU is building clearing houses and writing and or updating regulations and hopefully that is done by June 2025. There was also an scenario where some of the business we the EU can lose to the US. Another unlikely scenario is that it remains in the UK and or after the applied for re-entry. I think the EU lawmakers should really make a law where only countries who have joined the EURO as a currency are eligible to clear these euro denominated derivatives.
What's in it for EU countries? If only one vetoing it... All of them must see the benefit.
We already experienced what’s in it for EU countries: constant trouble.
How pompous of the British to think that the EU will let you back in.
To rejoin the EU, all member states must say yes. But I think Spain will demand the return of Gibralter, before they say yes.
If they demand any territory, land or not, fuck em. This is coming from a remainer who's annoyed we've given up so much power through brexit.
As a quid pro quo for Gibraltar, Spain should return Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco.
I am Spanish: For sure! And leave NATO and give up nuclear weapons. And leave Pound and accept Euro. And above all, not out clausules as you enjoyed in the past and much despised 🤬
@@apveening No way. You now are in disvantageous oppsition and surely we, Spanish, will squeeze you with great pleasure 😉
And so they should
Honestly, and it is a pity, I believe that the return of the United Kingdom to the European Union is not contemplated in the medium term, only if the United Kingdom enters into a deep crisis, the countries of the European Union could consider the re-entry of the United Kingdom and of course without any exception and accepting from the Euro to Schengen. Today, what I think the United Kingdom should do is comply with the separation protocol and try not to stray too far from the EU legislatively. The UK will never become the European Singapore and like it or not its biggest trading partners will be the EU countries. The UK must forget about having the advantages of being a member of the EU and not having its obligations
Too late.
Bit too late for that...
@@KurtFrederiksen for simple selfishness
Candidate countries must meet some economic requirements. As a third country a crisis wouldn't precisely help getting accepted.
Never going to join.
If some time in the future the Rest-UK applies for joining the EU, I hope the people in the EU will have a referendum about it.
We French voters have 😊
Dutch voter here: I know what I would vote. NO!
@@thevoid5503 Fully understand your reasoning and agree 100% - Politically, It's a lot more involved and there's is a lot of anti-UK sentiment from our friends in the EU. When the dust settles, it will be more apparent how stupid the people on these Isles have been. The vast majority of the UK would embrace rejoining and it will happen. The idiotic politicians over here need to have their heads banged together. The UK is the only Country in history to impose sanctions on itself!
I am an Old Brit and the sooner we get back with our friends in Europe the better. It was economic and social madness to leave in the first place. If you make a mistake, correct it as soon as possible.
You don't have any friends left in the EU.
Problem is we have never left.
The problem is that the UK used to pay half per capita compared to any other EU country. So if the UK return then the UK must follow the rules like anyone else and it would cost twice as much as it used to. Also any new members need to adopt the Euro and Schengen. So the UK won't get the old benefits it used to have.
@@aubreystreeter9641 the UK has left. Haven't you noticed the more expensive food in the store and the extra border checks and so on? Or the lack of doctors and nurses because they got fired? What more do you want?
At 89 I fully agree with you,Jim.
I am a security engineer and on visiting many companies especially the engineering/ manufacturers and people effected by a withdrawal of investment in pharmaceutical industry, I remember a gentlemen who told me his daughters pharmaceutical company had investment withdrawn from France immediately after the vote to leave the EU in 2016 I myself never believed in Brexit and voted likewise so what I saw whilst servicing security and witnessing companies going out of business was a early insight to what was to come, this country cut itself off from its biggest trading partner.
If the UK rejoins the EU, they should not have any discounts
eu will make darn sure it won't get any of those. Not that it'll ever happen.
Right, if the UK rejoined the EU again it won’t be possible to enable the UK anymore just pick the raisins like before Brexit was the case.
I can't see Netherlands, Ireland or Germany letting them back in. Every single country can veto their rejoining, but I see those three having the biggest problem with it.
fantastic!- keep pushing it, it will never happen!
add Luxembourg: their huge banking and financial services sector got a huge share from the London sector and thanks to Brexit it became the richest country in the world. Why shoould they vote in a referendum to give this money back to the UK? Sorry DUK (disunited Kingdom)
@@BenelliMr hahahaha! Crackpipe much?? Lollor!
Give Gibraltar back
@@inigoromon1937 mind you own countries buisiness.
This is a top quality discussion of the economic harm caused by a short-sighted vote in 2016
As a Canadian, it would be a huge disaster for our country to close the doors on trade with the USA and Mexico.
The younger generation will likely insist on a new trade deal with the EU. The older generation will pass into oblivion
RS. Canada
'As a Canadian, it would be a huge disaster for our country to close the doors on trade with the USA and Mexico.'
What!? You don't want to leave your nearest and easiest trading partners and set up Canzuk so Britain can start up British Empire 2.0?
Damn you Sir, for a traitor and don't try to impress us with your rationality and intelligence. We don't do the latter in Britain much these days.
Don't you want to ruin your economy like the old country has? Next thing you'll be telling me is you don't mind the Quebecois ...
[This is sarcasm,in case anyone can't figure it]
As a percentage of world trade the EU is shrinking rapidly while the CPTPP is growing exponentially. But you seem to forget we still trade with the EU, in fact our trade is growing with them and now we can have free trade will the Worlds biggest trade block. Even better we don't have to pay £22 billion a year for the privilege. You should be celebrating along with us Brexiteers.
@@garyb455 I and many others in the EU are very happy the UK left. Your trade is growing with the EU because we are your nearest available trading partners. But it is from what I hear, a lot more difficult now.
The EU is a mature economy for the most part and others are catching up as is natural.
There are also possibilities for the EU and the CPTPP to work together.
@@paulohagan3309 I've read an article (The Diplomat, June 8, 2022) about talks taking place for the EU's accession to the CPTPP. I don't know where that stands now. There actually is a geographical logic in the EU working with CPTPP; the EU is already physically present in the region, thanks to the French overseas territories in the Pacific Ocean (e.g. Tahiti), making it the second largest EEZ (exclusive economic zone) in the world after the US.
@@jfrancobelge Interesting.Thanks for the info.
Could our 'British friends' veto it perhaps [?not familiar with the CPTPP.'s modus operandi]. If that happens, the CPTPP will, like the EU, wish they'd listened to deGaulle the first time ...😂😂
If the UK wants to rejoin, they won't really like the new deal, because they won't get all the exemptions and preferential treatment the UK had enjoyed from the Thatcher era until Brexit.
No other EU member had as many exceptions as GB. Brexit was like breaking onto open doors. GB was the most sovereign, least regulated member of EU.
A foregone conclusion. Which is why I don't. We have the CPTPP now. Trade without the EU politics. More up my street.
@@lesskeels3417 frankly, the UK hasn't won more independence by leaving the EU. It is now more depended on the goodwill of the USA and increased cooperation of the commonwealth countries, which in turn will demand concessions from the UK.
The UK will learn that a party of one is in a weaker position in any negotiation than a united group.
One would think, the UK has already learned that lesson from the comparatively bad Brexit deal they were able to negotiate. The 27 on the opposite side were in a position of strength while the British politicians were under pressure to get Brexit done at all costs.
But it seems you haven't learned a damned thing. And in the long run, this Brexit deal will cost you Northern Ireland.
@@PatsFanGermany "And in the long run, this Brexit deal will cost you Northern Ireland." And Scotland and probably Wales and maybe even the City of London.
The UK has always been a pain in the ass for the EU while it has been a semi-member of the union, demanding privileges that other countries do not have. And now you are considering rejoining? You have it very very difficult.
dont worry!- 169 countries outside the EU doing fine..
One of the problems with the basic narrative, is that it assumes that there is only one side: that when the British people are good and ready to rejoin the EU, the EU will be glad to have them. Consider that the UK being in the EU is not equally beneficial for both sides. Some countries benefit from the UK being outside the EU (more opportunities, less competition). It takes unanimity of agreement from everyone in the EU at that time. And things aren't equal on both sides: each EU country has 29 other EEA countries to trade with tariff free, and the EU charges the UK all the tariffs due. What the UK can't make for itself it must import; and it doesn't (or hasn't up to now) charged full tariffs. And one country veto'd the UK's entrance to the EEC for many years, the last time it wanted to join.
You also mentioned about Poland not having being required to join the Euro. But they have never met the convergence criteria. Is the UK going to deliberately avoid meeting convergence criteria so it doesn't have to join?
Given the benefits that Ireland has attained from Brexit, I cannot see anyone from Ireland want the the UK back!!!
When Britannia says jump the only question the world including the EU is suposed to ask is how high and they do actually believe that.
As an EU citizen: the UK is about as welcome as a fly in my soup, a death at a birthday party or rain during a picknick.
@@thevoid5503 Or a fart in a spacesuit!!
It wouldnt be so much as rejoining but reapplying and joining the queue behind Albania for admission on much inferior terms.
Or more likely those that the EU will impose on the UK. No more Brexits!! Join the euro and Schengen, otherwise no can do!!
And Albania is a lot less likely to run headlong into a veto.
I'm one of the "older demographic" you mention but I never wanted to leave EU. I discovered a while ago that I should never make an enemy out of a friend..
i think not all old demographics wanted to leave the EU but the vast majority of them did
I am 77 and I remember a referendum in 1975 to decided whether the UK should remain in the EEC. In 1973, the Tory government had taken us in and Labour promised a referendum, in which 67% decided to stay. I voted against, because although I did not have the vocabulary then, I realized that the EEC was a neoliberal organization, which the EU still is today. Even so, The EU has prevented war in western Europe since 1945, has increased wealth and stability in previously poorer countries such as Portugal, Spain and Ireland and today, 27 countries are in much better shape than the UK. Today I would vote to return to Europe. I am an immigrant from London to New Zealand so I did not get the chance to vote remain.
I can remember that in the 70s we had lots of British carpenters and bricklayers in my country NL because they could earn more than in the UK. Do these days come back?
I was 15 at the time of the brexit vote, i knew the leave points were bullocks and what some of the consequences of leaving would be. It truly terrified me talking to adults who were allowed to vote how many planned on voting leave without any research as to what it would mean, i think me and my form room were able to convince our teacher to vote remain after explaining what would happen and how the points she heard were lies. But i know some people i tried explaining it to still voted leave (like my nana)
A lot of people value freedom and national sovereignty (especially remembering that some of us had grandparents that fought for that and suffered severe hardship for it), higher than being able to have easy movement around Europe without the 'shackles' of a green-card point system! The politics trumps the economics for a lot of us and in the long term the economic gain of being in the EU will be insignificant compared to our ability to innovate and flourish outside of the stale bureaucracy of the EU and it's quagmire decision making / law making processes!
@@bigd5090you are absolutely deluded if you genuinely think that a service economy with an increasingly aging population and a weak manufacturing base is somehow going to magically create all this productivity. This is all Brexit boils down to - nonsensical wishful thinking, backed up by zero evidence and even less logic.
The point about sovereignty would make sense if the UK was a country like Germany or the US or whatever, but it isn't. It's always going to be at a disadvantage when trying to negotiate free trade agreements with countries like the US or China if those deals even ever emerge. The loss of "sovereignty" from the conditions imposed as a result of a weakened negotiating position is going to be far worse than bendy bananas or whatever.
The reality is that in the European Union the UK had a significant voice within one of the largest trading blocs in the world. Now we're on the outside - poorer, colder, more miserable and with no real indication as to how we're going to carve out this bold new isolated future.
Also bear in mind that the most serious attempt to create the Singapore-on-the-Thames dream of the "intellectual" Brexiters was in the Kwasi Kwarteng mini-budget, and we all know how that turned out.
@@bigd5090 The only thing that has gone stale is the growth of the UK. It really hasn't since it was in the EU.
I am starting to think that even North Korea is getting more growth than the UK, I have been living here since 2009.
I now am laughing at the thought of gaining British Citizenship now, as I did once think of it. How stupid was I to even think that.
Best way forward is to move elsewhere.
I don't really see as many British companies as I did back then, many of which have either been bought up or bankrupted.
@Moshimulations We are a sick morally degenerating mess of a country. Why do you think we should be rich with or without Brexit? We should cut beaurocracy (now that we can), innovate and regain our Protestant Work Ethic! All the strikes are crippling what small growth we have! Our education system needs to train the workers we need rather than causing a brain-drain across the world to keep our creaking NHS and public services going.
Poland, the Baltic states, Czech Republic, and Slovakia are scheduled to overtake uk GDP per capita in the coming 15 years. Do you think that they want english workers driving down vages?
I am so sorry for you guys... True words from a Spaniard.
Sorry, but i'm quite sure, very few Europeans want the UK back. The BREXIT experience was a frustrating one, dealing with the british exceptionalism. No one wants to repeat this once more.
1. Reason why they wont. : It is not up to the UK to rejoin. It´s up to the EU to let them back in! And do anyone really think that 27 members can agree to let someone back who left the way the UK did? This was not exactly a happy divorce! UK should expect to give up more than they might be willing to loose to please everyone!
Surely you must know that the so called bendy bananas rule never existed it was dreamed up by bojo for one of his newspaper articles, saying that this would be the next sort of rule that might possibly be introduced, but was belived to be fact by many
I thought it was true and a good thing and I went looking round the supermarkets to find some. What a wate of time.
Daily mail, Sun Telegraph etc stated this as facts.
but the iphone plug change is real! what do you know about USB C?
A device with a Type-C connector does not necessarily implement USB, USB Power Delivery, or any Alternate Mode: the Type-C connector is common to several technologies while mandating only a few of them…… The EU is mandating in a minefield here.
@@rosshilton Plugs and bananas are your concerns? You do not realise the real scale of lies of Boris and Nigel and the real parts and size of damage the BREXIT has done to the UK. E.g. the lost fundings from the EU where not replaced by the government. And that is by far not all.
Like most of the rest of the shite he spouted.!!!!! Most of it was a LIE. 🤬🤬🏴🏴🏴
EU rejoining is far from inevitable- except point 3, which is disputable, all those point were only about what UK can gain, how UK will benefit( or rather stop losing) and about UK perspective, needs, politics, demographics etc, even the last, hypothetical, point is about UK only, how EU somehow reverses the current trend and first time in history the joining criteria will be loosened, coincidentally exactly in the right time when UK is ready and willing to try to become EU member again, instead of tightened as they were for every subsequent wave of new candidates and members as the EU itself been changing, integrating, and expanding.
nothing about what EU may gain to let UK back or that EU joining process is fully EU dictated and directed and UK as a candidate would have to gain EU approval to be even considered candidate not to mention to be approved, be single every one of 27 members, to become member again.
Unless UK, and UK public and commentators alike, stop being so UK-myopic and start to look at EU and joining process more logically instead of solely from their, narrow, UK POV then chances of UK ever becoming member again are exactly zero.
I think there is one thing that the British have not understood or cannot understand. It is not you who decides whether you can join the EU. It is the EU that chooses. And if the United Kingdom wants to join the EU, you have to apply and queue like all the other countries. Moreover, considering all the insults and the criticisms which you made towards the EU, no member state wants you!!! EU is stronger et faster without UK.
can you list in alphabetical order all the nations waiting to join the e.u. please
@@barrystubbs983 Montenegro, Serbia, Turkey, North Macedonia, Albania, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia Herzegovina. It's not in alphabetical order, but who cares.
@@paulspam2682 Obviously the EU will continue to work with the UK, as it does with almost every country in the world. But the EU did not punish the UK. Once the UK left the EU, third country rules applied, that's all. But the British who had all the privileges of being part of the EU did not understand that it happens like that with countries outside the EU. British citizens elected their representatives, there was a referendum, if people are stupid enough to believe that by being isolated they would have a better life than by being all together, that is their problem. They are responsible for what happens to them, not the EU.
@@paulspam2682 Everything also depends on the agreements made between the EU and third countries, each agreement is different and it also depends on the companies and the agreements they also have with each third country and the one they have with the EU. There is no special punishment for a country, it does not work like that.
@@barrystubbs983
"can you list in alphabetical order all the nations waiting to join the e.u. please"?
Albania, Bosnia Herzegovina, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, and Ukraine are the seven recognised candidate countries actively working towards EU membership.
Turkey, while it was accepted as a candidate member, has had its accession process frozen, and is unlikely to progress as long as Mr Erdogan remains office.
Georgia and Kosovo are working towards candidate member status.
Can you list, in alphabetical order, all the EU member states that want to copy the UK's self-mutilating idiocy?
That would be an empty page, with zero entries....
Please don’t do it.
From a current perspective de Gaulle was right to vote against a UK membership. He saw crystal clear what an annoying member UK would be.
So for now, enjoy the pain that your vote has caused, learn humility and understand the EU as a European peace project.
And then you have to guarantee us that you won't start bickering again and constantly try to sell your own mistakes as the mistakes of the EU.
One reason why the UK will never join the EU - the EU member states with their veto powers. The threshold for a referendum to join the EU may never get to the threshold set by the EU. That could be as high as 75%. The UK should break up and allow Scotland, Wales and NI self-determination.
Sorry to tell you, you cant rejoin on your own will.
You have to make a new application. Will take years or decades.
Scotland and NI maybe. We love you
@@andrescasado5975 Not as part of the UK. EU cannot divide a sovereign nation, that's against international law.
@@lesskeels3417 Brexit was the start of the dissolution of the Union. Pretty soon all that will be left will be the Union Jack Off.
My all time favorite. They! All 27 of them, need the UK more than the UK need all 27 of them! This is Classic Arrogant Britain! 🤣🤣😂😂
By the time the EU is ready to seriously consider this issue, the UK may no longer exist in its present form.
@@thetruth9210 LOL - ridiculous comment, the UK is on a downward trajectory
Spaniard here, if they want to apply they may do it. However we have to learn from past experience.
This time no exceptions... No mistakes. It has to be all in or all out. With euro, with metric system and past a few years driving on the road as everyone.
They think that they are better than the rest of Europeans and only a 180º turn apreciable in every street of the UK can fix that. They were free to apply in the first time, they were free to leave in the first time, but the rest of the Europeans we are free to set the conditions to ensure that there is no second Brexit.
No hard feelings but in the UK they have to realize that they are not an empire anymore and they have to be team players. In Spain we learned that the hard way and it seems to me that this is the only option if they want to rejoin the EU.
Edit: If they want to Join the EEA or the EFTA they are also free to apply but with all the criteria for accesing the single market. Free of movement/contribution to the EU budget/accept the EU courts,... That also could work.
Needs reversing ASAP. It is doing nothing but damage and it's only getting even worse as time goes on.
"Seven ways of wishful thinking" would have been a more appropriate title. I don't know if this is extreme optimism, or that entitled sense of British exceptionalism. As if all it takes is the UK changing it's mind? There's no such thing as 'The UK reversing Brexit and rejoining'. What the UK can do is apply for membership as any any other European non-EU member. And try to meet the Copenhagen criteria. And finally hope that they will be voted in by the 27 EU member states.
You were right the first time. About as much chance of reversing Brexit as reversing the direction of a tornado, just not going to happen, there would be outrage like what France is getting now. I have absolutely ZERO desire to go back to eu, no thank you, the once was enough, we now have the CPTPP waiting for us. That sums it up, I think.
We are actually fine in EU with the current status.
Thanks but no, thanks.
Brilliant channel, appreciate your intelligent insight sir. Well done
He's a liar.
OBR *never* forecast a net loss of 4% GDP. That is the anti brexit LIE. The _forecast_ (and that's all it was), was 4% loss in *growth of GDP* over 15 years.
Anti brexiters are *liars.* They only ever lie.
Will the UK have to move back from the middle of the Pacific when that occurs and if so what happens to this Pacific Trade Deal thingy?
@@Buckets1000 it’s up shit creek without a canoe!
I don't think you can be a member of 2 trading blocks with contradictory interests.
Piracy is still an option to England, as allways has been.
@@abelbouza1229 most of it is State sanctioned, or am I thinking of highway robbery?
The EU is not just about trade. As long as the British don't get it no chance they can rejoin. And I don' t think they are close to getting it.
Reminder: it was 50/50 of people who voted. The majority didn't vote. So it's actually less than 25% of people who made decisions for the other 75%.
The problem is the younger generation are apathetic because they don't have much faith in the political process BUT what this really demonstrates is if you don't vote, things can and will get a lot worse!
Not voting was also a decision.
Remoaner fallacy. The vote went with Brexit, and that was 7 years & 4 months ago!! CPTPP are waiting for us, trade without political undertones, how good is that?
@@lesskeels3417 7 years and 4 months and what has improved? We have a GDP 4% smaller because of Brexit.... Remoaners? lol more like living in reality
@@lesskeels3417 rubbish, no trading arrangement isn’t without rules and agreements that we might not necessarily like. This new trading arrangement will never replace the trade lost with our neighbours.
I think a rejoining will take decades instead of wishful years. At the moment the EU is relatively happy that the British are no longer a blocker for reforms and unity. Many countries in the EU really dislike the British for their special concessions in the past and do not want a "spoiled child" in their group anymore. Since you need approval of all nations in the EU for joining the UK may need to work really hard on the diplomatic level to polish their reputation.
If it was Scotland or Northern Ireland alone a rejoining would not be that difficult since they still have a good reputation but even they would need to do some back-rubbing.
Thank god for small mercy's if it takes years I'll be long gone by then, Dennis
Scotland yes. England, forget it.
The Elgin marbles will have to be returned. Other issues such as off shore banking in crown dependencies such as the Isle of Man, the channel Islands and further afield will be cleaned up.
Now let's take a look at Gibraltar 😂
Money laundering, dodgy electoral system. God we are so far from the Copenhagen criteria already. In two years we'll be so far away from the the Hubble telescope couldn't see us
The Elgin marbles should be returned. Calling them the Elgin marbles is already highly inappropriate. They were looted in the same way the Nazis looted museums during WWII.
Money laundering will have to stop
@@jillybe1873 yes it needs to but what are the odds given msm and Tory donors bare totally behind it
@@jillybe1873 the EU will never ask a country to give up its core activity and the only reason for it to not be a 3rd world country.
The question is, Will EU allow UK ever?
Who's bothered, Dennis
But will the EU want or allow the UK to rejoin?
No.
I'm going with NO. For the same reason that we were vetoed 70+ times during our 47-year membership, so once more isn't going to make much of a difference
Yes. EU with UK it's stronger than EU without UK.
No.
Why would the EU let GB rejoin?
Free money !
Well GB would have better chances than UK, but my bet would be not on UK rejoining, but on Scotland and maybe later England and Wales joining for the first time. The current situation of the UK with NI issues with IRL and Gibraltar issues with ESP and the de facto English Empire status over Scotland and Wales could not be maintained upon admission to a stronger, hopefully more principled based EU.
Why would the EU want us back? all we did was moan and demand special treatment we would have to knuckle down and behave.
Consttutional changes should ALWAYS be decided by a super majority vote. Been saying this since 2016. Meanwhile 1.5 million UK passport holders were disenfranchised from voting in the referendum (b) including me and all my British family. My son has now changed his citizenship. Wise move.
The UK was dragged out of the EU by the votes of just 38% of the total electorate. I find it worrying that the majority were ignored at the time of the referendum and are being ignored again in discussions about some form of rejoining or closer cooperation.
Well only 17.4m voted to leave the EU, 37% of the electorate, no majority there. BoJo and his pals had the power to take us out of the EU and did so.
make sure he doesnt forget to "renounce UK citizenship" and hand his passport in
Are you sure that all 27 Member States will allow the UK return ?
The small boats issue is a great distraction from what is happening with legal immigration (increase in non-EU immigrants to replace EU immigrants in the labour force ...)
This may happen in the UK. There is a view that non eu immigrants may be fast tracked on nationality status and be employed in the police/ military. Time will tell.
The small boats is a Conservative government manufactured situation. There is a reason they haven't even once looked at employing far more people to approve or disprove asylum applications. They actively want a huge backlog. Currently it's their only semi-popular policy other than supporting Ukraine. The right wing media work with them. And people like Gary Lineker get censored.
@@garyburchgb a view from whom 😂😂😂
Farage said it, he wants to see more people from the commonwealth than from Europe. I guess European people are too white and Christian for him. Enjoy the Kalergui plan