I have been using XDEEP NX Project since January 2017 with steel backplate, for both recreational and technical diving. And I would never change it for anything else.
This one is lighter stronger smaller has more lift and cheaper but I will go for the other one because of REASONS? oh, it has a slot which might or might not be an issue.
I have gone from an older apex wing with a standard backplate to the NX project with stanless steel backplate and right away I noticed a major difference in trim, fit and finish, and over all comfort in the water. I am very glad I went this way and won't got back. Also the NX backplate is very comfortable. It's 8lbs compared to my old stainless steel backplate at 6lbs. I find the cylinders sit in a really good location and it is much easier to get in and out of. It was worth the upgrade.
I wouldn't think unobstructed airflow would matter all that much on an inflator/deflator. I'm sure the elbow will be more than adequate to allow all the air needed through it, especially considering it comes from a hose with a far smaller diameter.
Seems to me all the big name backplates have a slot on the bottom and possibly on the top. So, the X-Deep wing would be highly likely to be compatible with them anyway. That is, the wing and the backplate don't BOTH need slots -- at least one of the three holes on wing will line up with the slot on the backplate. I'd contend that's probably an advantage that the bolt going through the fabric hole can't wander -- less chance to damage the more delicate of the two materials.
You're going to be using two cylinder bands anyways, so that should keep the bolt from wandering. It that happens with your cylinder band, you've got other problems.
hi. could you do a comparison between the xdeep zen standard and apeks wtx d30 psd with the standard harness? i‘m lost and don‘t know which one i should get.
I like the PSD coating over the standard cordura, but both are excellent wings. I like the skeletonized aluminium backplate of the XDeep, but I don't get why the stainless steel one is skeletonized. You're getting the aluminium one because it's lighter, so taking off excess material makes sense, but if you opt for the stainless steel one, you want the weight. If you're considering the WTX D30 PSD, and not the regular WTX D30, I'd go with the Apeks. The PSD coating is obviously an important consideration for you, and the XDeep doesn't have it. I have the WTX D40 PSD myself, and I love it. The reason I got the D40 PSD is because the Apeks wings were oddly priced in my LDS: D30: € 299.99 D40: € 419.99 D30 PSD: € 429.99 D40 PSD: € 449.99 (you'd expect it to be € 549.99) For only € 20 more, I'll go with the D40 PSD over the D30 PSD thank you very much. Or if you're looking at the D40, it's only € 30 more for the PSD coating.
Thanks for review just got my into to tech learning twins using the 45 pounds sank like a stone (big guy) my instructor was about 75 lbs lighter than me was chest high out of water on 45 pounds. Please do reviews of regulators for use with twins the one manufacturer that has a set of regulators designed for twin cylinders seemed like the hose routing could of been better would like your thoughts of port placement on first stages thank you for helping me be a better diver
I have been using XDEEP NX Project since January 2017 with steel backplate, for both recreational and technical diving. And I would never change it for anything else.
Do you use the project wing on single tank? Or you switch to the zen wing?
@@rithychhean518 I have never used NX Project with single tank, but I suppose it is possible with some kind of adapter.
@@Kirdanek ahh ok. Tys for the reply
This one is lighter stronger smaller has more lift and cheaper but I will go for the other one because of REASONS? oh, it has a slot which might or might not be an issue.
I have gone from an older apex wing with a standard backplate to the NX project with stanless steel backplate and right away I noticed a major difference in trim, fit and finish, and over all comfort in the water. I am very glad I went this way and won't got back. Also the NX backplate is very comfortable. It's 8lbs compared to my old stainless steel backplate at 6lbs. I find the cylinders sit in a really good location and it is much easier to get in and out of. It was worth the upgrade.
WTX D45 wing with Apeks steel backplate and harness. Steel double 12s. Still need 4 kg on the belt or I float in my drysuit, so the lift is plenty.
I wouldn't think unobstructed airflow would matter all that much on an inflator/deflator. I'm sure the elbow will be more than adequate to allow all the air needed through it, especially considering it comes from a hose with a far smaller diameter.
Maybe you guys can do an intro to backplate and hardness full guide. Pros and cons. products recommendations.
That sounds like a great idea!
@@simplyscuba Thank you and make sure I get a cut! :)
@@KaiPantheTaiPan here you go ✂️✂️✂️
@@simplyscuba That's called scissors
Please do that it would help us folks trying to make the change
I just can’t believe the price on these wings. Thinking about using a small tire inner tube instead.
I recently put a project nx on my sf2 ccr. I really enjoy it, gives lift where I need it, very very low profile at the top
Can I use an Apeks wing on AN NX backplate?
Good review! Can you confirm that the X deep wing can be used with a standard Backplate or does one have to use their special backplates only?
Seems to me all the big name backplates have a slot on the bottom and possibly on the top. So, the X-Deep wing would be highly likely to be compatible with them anyway. That is, the wing and the backplate don't BOTH need slots -- at least one of the three holes on wing will line up with the slot on the backplate. I'd contend that's probably an advantage that the bolt going through the fabric hole can't wander -- less chance to damage the more delicate of the two materials.
You're going to be using two cylinder bands anyways, so that should keep the bolt from wandering. It that happens with your cylinder band, you've got other problems.
Why do you get rid of the tags connected to the string that's connected to the lower deflection valve?
hi. could you do a comparison between the xdeep zen standard and apeks wtx d30 psd with the standard harness? i‘m lost and don‘t know which one i should get.
I like the PSD coating over the standard cordura, but both are excellent wings. I like the skeletonized aluminium backplate of the XDeep, but I don't get why the stainless steel one is skeletonized. You're getting the aluminium one because it's lighter, so taking off excess material makes sense, but if you opt for the stainless steel one, you want the weight.
If you're considering the WTX D30 PSD, and not the regular WTX D30, I'd go with the Apeks. The PSD coating is obviously an important consideration for you, and the XDeep doesn't have it.
I have the WTX D40 PSD myself, and I love it. The reason I got the D40 PSD is because the Apeks wings were oddly priced in my LDS:
D30: € 299.99
D40: € 419.99
D30 PSD: € 429.99
D40 PSD: € 449.99 (you'd expect it to be € 549.99)
For only € 20 more, I'll go with the D40 PSD over the D30 PSD thank you very much. Or if you're looking at the D40, it's only € 30 more for the PSD coating.
Hi good présentation, but i need an info
Wich donut iscompatible with an upper purge, with a apx harness
Thanks for review just got my into to tech learning twins using the 45 pounds sank like a stone (big guy) my instructor was about 75 lbs lighter than me was chest high out of water on 45 pounds. Please do reviews of regulators for use with twins the one manufacturer that has a set of regulators designed for twin cylinders seemed like the hose routing could of been better would like your thoughts of port placement on first stages thank you for helping me be a better diver
Question: Why would you remove the tab from the dump valve? Snag hazard?
That would be my guess as well.
Because of the fact that if you have multi stages cylinders it can stuck under some of them and become difficult to reach
Are those slots for tank straps on the Apeks wing?
Team Peg Leg yes they are. You can use tank straps if you want.
Your favorites are always on your right side. :-)
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tell us about i trims, why don’t you have them? Have they performed poorly??