Simon Jordan CLAIMS Financial Fair Play Have 'HELD BACK' Newcastle United From Winning TROPHIES! 😱🔥
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2024
- talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan debate if Newcastle United need to break the cycle of investment to be successful and win silverware.
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It’s not very often Simon is right talking about Newcastle. But this is on the money
Chelsea's second 11 will be double the value of Newcastle's first 11. Something has to be done to allow progression for other clubs to aspire to and compete.
Let them secure losses over and above the existing 90 million secured losses limit.
Pretty sure spending 40 odd mill on their dead weight isn't going to help their cause lad or no?
Spot on. Only reason Chelsea can spend crazy amounts is cos of investments by a Putin lackie b4 ffp
@@jamesmilligan2797 The profits from those investments were stolen and locked away by the UK government.
Exactly. We've got so used to hearing about FFP and FSR, it's obscured that it's just blatant rigging of the system to block anyone competing with the established big clubs.
I agree with Simon.
Let Newcastle invest in the club.
The owners don't want to invest in the club. The Saudi government side they are reducing foreign investment from 30% to 20%. I can see them getting rid if Newcastle before they pump millions into it
The trick is to do a Forest and just take the hit. -3 points is worth it for a player that gets you an extra 6-9 points over a season. For Forest it was worth more than pts, it arguably kept them in premier league riches.
That only worked because the Commision was lenient on Forest because they had a lower PSR threshold because there had been in the championship for two years of the 3 year period. If Forest had been eligible for their entire 105 million threshold they wouldn’t have even been in breach. If Newcastle tried that they’d get way more than four points.
I’ll add that the only reason an established team may try this strategy is to get into champions league and the gap between 4th and 5th has been less than four points every year since 2017-18.
There’s no bar to how many points will be deducted for over spending so not worth the risk
@@DindoesSpend two billion, take the relegation, bounce back, then you're off to the races.
FFP is stifling provincial teams like Villa & Newcastle. Others have benefitted massively from investment, no less Chelsea and City, and if there is to be a fair quality to the EPL, then the rules must change.
Newcastle can't offload yesteryear's players quick enough but new players need bigger money, as that is how football has been going for years. A 15M player being paid £10k a week is now a £40M getting 80k a week. How can you improve without proper investment?
@tartansinatra Villa to date have been fortunate with the sales of grealish and Luis generating £160M and invested it wisely. FFP will also catch up on them soon and they'll be in the same situation as ourselves.
Is it now thats why villa sold their own ground to their owners for double the amount they paid for the club to cheat ffp or when they have been selling youth players who nobody’s heard of for £20 million
Simon was spot on (something I didn't think I'd ever say in all honesty). Not only that, the club is being forced to sell impact players to stay within the rules.
Tbh the past few month he's been spot on about nearly every vid I've watched of him. Credit due
Who? Anderson? Minteh? Neither scored a single goal for the club. Wdym impact players?
@@SoulControlla99how many appearances did Minteh make for Newcastle... Answer me that? It may surprise you but you can't score with 0 appearances. And Elliot Anderson at 17 playing in midfield.
@@SoulControlla99 Never watched Minteh when he was at Feyenoord? Sort of the RW everybody is currently screaming we need so badly.
As a newcastle fan we are miles off it. Whether its hampered in the transfer window, players not performing, others strengthening, not addressing key areas of weakness like RW. Its been a catalogue of problems lately
Rw is not a problem for me... not getting Guehi or having a plan b is our downfall
@@gayleroberts5375 going for Guehi was the problem, should have walked away from it as soon as they got a rice for him
Give over
Simon is bang on the money, it does not matter who is in charge we are not allowed to spend the money to close the gap, and that will be very difficult to overcome under the current set of rules.
FFP makes me want to stop watching the Prem. It's a joke. It does NOTHING but prop up the have beens and hold down the have nots. If people are ok with being mid table in the prem that's up to you. The team are legitimately being held back due to anti-competitive laws brought in solely to stop the club from progressing... It makes it extremely difficult to watch the league. Something HAS to happen with these rules...
City managed.
@@leweegiggles because the rules were put in place AFTER City did what they did. If the same set of rules were in place when City's owners came on board, they'd have the same problems. It's typical of late stage capitalism. The top guys work the system, gain a favorable position and power then lock the door behind them so others can't follow.
@@wurm90125 Spot on.
How can it be called financial fair play ????
It is clear its designed to stop any competition challenging.
Newcastle should challenge the league and look to laws to help them break these stupid rules that are not fit for purpose.Not only Newcastle is effected but any club who want to grow.
The rules need to change before the league self destructs.
Yup meanwhile Utd can continue to waste "money the club has generated" 🙄
Fair play only for the big names.
It’s an absolute joke that’s what it is! Newcastle or any other side outside the big 6 just can’t get near them. Simon was bang on
Really? So Aston villa not getting near them? Brighton having a good go, nufc was in top 4 2seasons ago. And right now forest are giving it a bloody good try, though it may not last.
@@stone4173 We were but the problem is staying there season after season. We couldnt invest in the squad and europe killed us. roll onto this season and the squad is weak due to FFP constraints.
@@Dodgyguitarist we could have done, we want a centre back fo 70 million but gave up instead of looking elsewhere. They brought a striker he never plays even when isac was injured, that's all on manager.
@@stone4173 Your last 4 words say it all and that's the difference , Villa, Newcastle, Forest may have the odd season in the sun but the current rules mean it won't last. They just don't have the strength in depth player wise that the the so called top clubs have. Leicester won the league but what happened after to the club and their players? Newcastle got top 4 then injuries decimated the team and they had no depth in squad to cope.
Team spirit and endeavour can only get you so far. Clubs need to be able to invest where needed.
@@kimstockwell721 who says villa etc won't last. They all can buy better players. Nufc making excuses because they bulls up in the window.
Desperately trying to keep Villa and Newcastle out of the cartel.Everton next ?
Absolute bullocks Everton we’re spending money like drunken sailors and fighting relegations stupid decisions makes bad results not money watch Aston villa it’s down to competent coaching and right decisions
@@salemalsubaie9515 I suspect you’re a 115 fan ,and have just proved my point .
@@salemalsubaie9515😂😂😂😂 absolute cheats
FFP is a restriction of trade and hampers any club wanting to progress...it's also benefited the big 6 and makes the league even less competitive
Masters and his crooked pals need to be sacked and put someone who understands football and the environment it operates in in charge of it.. 5 days after Newcastle were bought they bring in these new rule's to basically stop Newcastle becoming a big player that would brake apart the cartel that runs the league...
"Anti competitive" = corrupt
Simon absolutely on point.
And because of FFP we had to sell a Promising young RW (Minteh) that we really needed to keep and Young Elliot Anderson..........
Yeah because the reason Brighton aren't able to compete is because of PSR. Oh wait, hold on, Brighton are doing things the right way instead of sucking off Arabs and can therefore invest good players
@@leweegiggles convenient that they have over 200M in owner loans that have been excluded from PSR. IF Newcastle had even tried that it would have been immediately banned... now the rules are being re looked at so Brighton are "cheating" psr at present
@@kevinmoore9196 and at most they'll have to find 8m to stop that affecting them
Actually cheslsea have been selling young players off for years so shut it. Liverpool had sold courtino to buy 2 top players. Oh and guess what Everton had to sell Gorden who was home grown to nufc but I guess that's OK.
@@leweegiggles and what has Brighton actually won? They're very much a mid table club and probably won't progress much past that because of these rules.
Jim asking silly questions. There are lots of clubs who haven’t won trophies, Aston Villa having an amazing few years and good on them, haven’t won anything. Neither have Spurs albeit playing good football now and got to the UCL final a few years back. The point is Newcastle can have and in theory do have billions in the bank but are only permitted to spend X million. There’s you issue. With the sponsorship rules being tighter now, subsidiaries of PIF can’t buy assets to top up the profit/income side of things.
The media scum (including Jim White) insist that the expectations at Newcastle are sky high and then they shout ridiculous rubbish like "they have to win something soon!". Mate, we do not unrealistic expectations, we haven't won a cup in our lifetime, we just want to see our team compete!
Financial Fair Play has got to be the stupidest thing in football. How can smaller teams ever grow into bigger teams when they’re restricted on what they can or can’t spend?
If you’ve got a mega rich owner, you should be allowed to spend as much money as you want.
End of the day more rich owners in the Premier League only means they’re going to attract the best players and therefore we get a better product.
It’s stupid restricting teams. If somebody like Accrington Stanley got bought out by a bloke worth £500m, if he wants to put £100m into the club LET HIM.
Its like tonights euromillions winner winning the £71 million jackpot tonight but can still only buy a house according to what they earn. Its just there to protect the likes of Real Madrid and stopping a Newcastle from giving Mbappe an offer too good to turn down.
thats not fair on other teams
It's funny how many people just think letting teams spend what they want is a good solution and helps smaller clubs 😂😂
@@stuartgolby9767 it's what's happened since football started. It happens with every business. You don't see someone saying that Asda can't spend as much as Tesco because they don't sell as many baked beans. If an owner can afford to put money in to grow their asset they should be allowed to - it's called investing. If PSR really was about protecting clubs and stopping them from going bankrupt they'd make the owners put money aside as an insurance to guarantee for example 3 years worth of expenditure - that way the more expenditure you create the bigger the pot you have to put aside and the bigger the investment.
well man city had been saying this for years..
The Red mafia from 1980s 90s- 04 ManUtd, Liverpool, Arsenal brought in FFP to shut down chances of other clubs challenging them for the titles
I'm about to educate you
Newcastle net spend over last 5 years 380m
Forest 223m
Villa 217m
Fulham 123m
Bournemouth 118m
Brentford 95m
Brighton 38m
And everton just 3 points behind newcastle 27m
Sort of says it all😂.
@@paultaylor9498what's your point? Newcastle spending in line with other mid table teams despite their owners having more money than god because they cant deploy the money due to ffp. Also, lengthen your time window and the net spend drops because Ashley under invested pre takeover.
@@hughiemg2 why lengthen the timelime most of those clubs came into the Premier league after you got promoted last.
Ffs stop making excuses and saying stupid things.
Howe is not good enough and that's the truth.
Ffs wake the fcuk up
@@hughiemg2 newcastle net spend over 10 years is 6th or 7th in Europe depending on which article you read.
Obviously most of that being the few years.
And about 250 to 300 net spend from Mike ashley.
All the information is there just need to search for it instead of going on what you think and feel
@@paultaylor9498 I think you just proved his point. shows us the figures of the red mafia.
All Hail Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Of course PSR has held us back that's a no brainer..
Having said that mistakes in recruitment particularly the failure to spend the Geuhi money have more to do with our current struggles than PSR.
Without the PSR we would be allowed to get away with mistakes in transfer windows but ATM any mistakes knock us back years
If there was no PSR he’d have signed as we’d have spent the money needed, PSR prevented us.
@michaelmckie9164 we had £70m to spend in the summer and couldn't get Geuhi over the line. We wasted money on Tonali and bought too many LW whilst neglecting the right. That's nothing to do with PSR
PSR stops newcastle from correcting those mistakes, man united wasted 60 mil on casemiro and then 50 mil on Ugarte correcting a transfer mistake.
@jdogg448 PSR is not the reason Newcastle are 12th in the table
Unless they change the rules the premier league will stagnate it’s already happening. Letting villa and Newcastle go will light the league on fire
The longer time goes on and people see more clubs being hamstrung by FFP the more and more people see what City fans have said since day one.
People seem to think only newcastle will benefit from changes to psr, plenty of teams want to spend
PSR is in place for one reason and one reason only: To protect the positions of the big clubs. The fact that PSR penalties are anything other than financial is proof of that. Points deductions for spending too much? Seriously? Newcastle's owners being wealthier than Fenway Sports Group or Ineos yet aren't allowed to spend is a joke. Football needs to look at American models such as either MLB where there's luxury taxes and revenue sharing, or to the other extreme, the NHL where there's a hard salary cap AND a minimum spend requirement. Football is a little too clever for its own good with some of these things.
It’s not just that Newcastle have to get a top 4 challenging team together but a new club challenging the traditional elite have to be able to spend enough money in 4 transfer windows (2 years) otherwise the good players they sign in transfer windows 1 & 2 will be off to new clubs in transfer windows 5&6 due to being courted by other teams. Chelsea has spent 1300 million in 2 and a bit years apparently to put together a young exciting squad of almost 2 teams and that’s from a team who were already established in the top group. Unless a club is allowed to buy top quality players they just won’t compete consistently it’s as simple as that.
How do we have to win something? On what? Definitely not on the squad we have. It’s bang average. We haven’t been backed back to back windows. We have weakened the squad that already wasn’t good enough. FFP is horrendous just stops anyone being able to have a go
Financial Fair Play working as intended then, keeping certain clubs down.
SRP rules already provide for secured funding exemptions up to 90 million pounds. The 105 million pound figure over three years is in fact a 15 million pound loss limit that can be circumvented with secured funding up to 90 million pounds. Bump that limit up to 150 or even 200 million and the problems for teams like Newcastle disappear with no added issues for sustainability.
Everything Simon Jordan just said was 100% correct - glad it is being said.
We were never going to win things so quickly with our low revenue - which of course determines our spending under FFP/PSR.
FFP/PSR is supposedly about making sure clubs remain solvent however that makes no sense with our owners - it's just protecting the usual top 6.
A new stadium will generate more revenue & other new revenue streams will help but it will take a loooong time for us to even become a proper top 6 side.
I wish some of my fellow toon fans would realise this - some of them have totally unrealistic expectations.
At the Fulham game Jim white met my brother and his son after the game ,and walked with them to the tube station talking and chatting all the way ,my brother says he a sound bloke
As a liverpool fan i would say our fans are the best in England, but have always rated the newcastle supporters, they deserve some success, i think its a monkey they need off their back.
Yes, FFP and PSR rules are ridiculous however lets not forget that Newcastle had money to spend in the summer and didn't because of EH.
@knoxxy6884 I agree about FFP/PSR, but we haven't covered ourselves in glory in the way we've handled it either - losing Minteh and Anderson this year to it. Also it's not just the last transfer window we've messed up; we should have replaced Woods - we have needed a ready to play striker - maybe Barnes wasn't a priority , better to get a similar player on the right in that window and Gaehi... when it was clear we were being played find a replacement CB, there were options, but to get noone! Also having got Kelly who has pace, play him when up against players with pace!
Simon talking sense again.
We will never bridge the gap. But we are miles off it this season. We simply aren't goid enough
The only way we can actually spend now is to sell our best players to the teams we are trying to compete with. It's rigged.
FFP/PSR has nothing to do with sustainability other then sustaining the status quo.
Leeds fan here.
The insecurity of the premier league for Newcastle to possibly disrupting the top 5/6 is is nothing short of a disgrace. That club had every right to grow as the owners see fit like 4 of those top 6 have already done. I don’t know how the premier top brass can sleep with a clear conscience. It’s Newcastle being restricted now be warned it’ll be Villa, Everton, Bournemouth, Forest if they ever get investment. It’s shameful
Accross my life we in the North East saw our local talent, winning and lifting cups with other teams. It's long since known, our local teams. Then it was lack of investment. Now the money is available but they're denied ability to invest.
Bitter pills to swallow.
Brighton,Bournemouth,Forest
Brentford,Fulham all spent less yet they are above newcastle.
And newcastle only 3 points in front of Everton.
What does that say about howe
It says Newcastle was in the champions league and they weren’t.
This is a stupid time to make that point. The difference between 4th and 12th in the table right now is 2 wins. Says nothing about Howe
@dannytallmage2971 yes they were last season
@@paultaylor9498 and their coach was?
@@dannytallmage2971go and look it up.
Clown
Newcastle, have the biggest fan base, based on actual local fans. United, Liverpool have biggest glory hunting fan bases globally...based on decades ago...in a galaxy, far, far away!
What on earth are you on about ? NUFC established 1892 ! Liverpool and Everton, Manchester United, Manchester City = two premier league clubs per city v NUFC one NUFC Japan this year, USA last year plus Saudi....We are trying to grow our global fan base and win cups to help grow club turnover.....here you are whining like a Mackem...Glory fans.....yes please.
Stop going on about Liverpool
Just jealous.
They been massive for decades clown
Clueless Geordies as always
@@Ayah_MiaNot at all , he's right . Manchester has 2 teams , Liverpool has 2 teams , London has multiple teams . Birmingham has multiple teams . The list goes on . Newcastle have one , Newcastle and surrounding areas are all Newcastle fans . So yes they do have more local fans then everyone else in the league
Newcastle net spend over last 5 years 380m
Forest 223m
Villa 217m
Fulham 123m
Bournemouth 118m
Brentford 95m
Brighton 38m
And everton just 3 points behind newcastle 27m
Sort of says it all😂
Newcastle fans are clearly clueless
No excuse, Villa have had the same problems and they still achieved champions league while playing in Europe
Hate to mention it, but injuries.... We had terrible luck in our Champions League year (or something in the training or style of play?) and as such our season imploded about Christmas time. As Jordan said, this time last year we were flying, just before we landed and the wheels fell off. Everyone has injuries of course, but not as much, for as long and to as many key players in a small squad (by which I mean we didn't, and still don't, have a subs bench of internationals, just goalkeepers and kids).
Villa have, and had, a better squad than us, more depth, and should be better suited. The new CL format helps, as mentioned, 8 games against potentially weaker opponents, and your injuries to key players aren't bad at the moment. Good luck to you, basically, I hope you don't have to suffer what we did.
At last Talk sport!! Nice one Simon!!!!!!
The fact that these new rules came in just days after Newcastle was taken over tells me all I need to know.
It's not a "CLAIM" as the title suggests, it's a fact.
Simon said them 2 words which describe everything.." Anti competitive" and nothing is gonna change until the teams outside the top 6 (City excluded) grow some balls and fight back against the corrupt premier league and Red cartel..
Jose Mouriho to Newcastle could be the recruitment that can change the history of the club.
No thanks the finished one
Up until about a year ago it was so ridiculous how most people seemed to totally forget about the premier leagues FFP/PSR regulations when it came to Newcastle United & saying that they would be the new dominant club in English football & it was just a matter of time before they overtook Manchester City & won everything with the backing of their Saudi owners PIF fund,so called football experts far reaching knowledge of football didn't seem to know that the current rules in which a club can only spend what their legitimate revenue would allow them with a £35 million a year limit of loss allowed. The "Rich 6" who have had money pumped into them before the regulations came in have built up revenue streams far higher than the Newcastle's/Villa's in the premier league & make it nearly impossible for them to compete or catch up to the Sky 6 media darlings which have a monopoly,the current rules are a farce & completely unfair needing to be changed a.s.a.p.....🤡+⚽=💩✔️....🤔???....🖕👎
I think people assumed Newcastle would avail themselves to many of the financial tricks that Man City used but the sovereign wealth fund has been committed to running new castle like a business. I’m not even sure an SRP exemption would actually help Newcastle although I agree that SRP is anti-competitive and I can’t believe euros let their domestic leagues by rigged for the benefit of existing stakeholders.
exactly. its like F1 making a new rule about engine size except those that got the big engine before the rules could keep it. All in the pursuit of fairness of course.
You have to caveat that say he spent a decent amount of money with their starting squad value was hundreds of millions of pounds smaller than their competitors & have spent at a similar level to others post take over but nowhere near that over the last 15 years
Ahahah him covering his back after saying "certainly the away fans are" made me laugh like heath ledger's joker
And FFP hasn't held us back, unfortunately for the Top Six
FFP protects the Sky Top Six with the big revenues- It's time to STOP it!!!
No team can catch the top 6 now.
Problem with allowing billionaire owners to invest whatever they want is that it pushes up fees and wages which then hurts clubs further down the pyramid. It isn’t just about the top of the Premier League.
Can Simon explain to me what newcastle could have done about Tonali? This is an anomaly, how many players have been banned for that type of thing and what kind of due diligence would have rooted it out?
They could win a trophy in any season. They have a team that made the Champions League. There's no reason to think they can't again.
If its clubs they are trying to keep from going under from over spending, then each team should have its own individual ffp limit based on the wealth of the owner/s, stops owners taking risks
newcastles trophy cabinet is actually not as good as tottenham, which is embarassing
We could go out and buy anyone and take the deduction in points but the players that will come will be for high wages only like robinho for man city and at the minute we've been successful because players are playing for the badge.
We havnt got a manager like Bobby anymore were Kluivert signed for us just because of him.
But I do think after howe we will have mourinho in charge continuing Bobby's legacy
Held back from spending money, winning trophy's isn't guaranteed
Case in point - so why are we held back from spending?
@archivalhorror the rules clearly need to change
He says the FFP rules are anti competitive but if clubs were allowed to spend whatever they choose how could anyone compete with Newcastle. Within 5 to 10 yrs they would buy all the best players as they could pay the most and no one else could compete on a level playing field. It’s what the rules were brought in for!
But that's already happening and has been for years with the likes of Liverpool, Man utd, Arsenal Chelsea and latterly City.
Yes true but the involvement of Middle Eastern states with limitless resources was a game changer. Newcastle can feel aggrieved as the stable door has been shut on them when City have already gone through
Ffp also holding villa bck
They need to buy a RW and RCB. Then they'll be back on track.
This season, they're mostly struggling with finishing their chances.
I would say more players than that are required especially ones who don’t get injured stepping out the shower
Is it a coincidence that These new rules were brought in after Newcastle finished fourth and have money 💰
How come Chelsea can keep spending billions?
They even banned clubs having two coaches standing in the technical area at the same time, purely because Jason Tindall had a propensity to do so 😂 it’s so pathetic.
Can't disagree about City running afoul of FFP but fairly certain Chelsea have made more from just player sales via the academy over the past 10 years than Villa and Newcastle have generated combined. Villa to their credit are following this model in producing some fantastic young talent, meanwhile Newcastle are signing Chelsea academy players, to then complain about Chelsea being able to spend more 😅😅
Unfortunately I believe Eddie Howe will not see the season out. Despite the media face of the owners they will be ruthless and expect a return for the millions invested in the club. Minimum return would be european football for them and was not acheived last season and looking a step too far this season.
That’s why the Red Cartel had it brought in. They will try everything possible to stop another team challenging them. You only have to see at what is happening to Man City the Red Cartel and their puppet ,Masters trying their hardest to discredit everything they have accomplished. The premier league is rotten to the core and it’s about time the rest of the league to wake up to the self serving Red Cartel.
Howe had the chance to go to Arsenal two seasons ago and make a statement win and put Newcastle in with a shout to win the league... but he parked the bus instead. You reap what you sew.
Sounds like what Arsenal has been doing lately 🤔
Ffp psr have held every club back outside the top 6
He’s fully right btw
for once i agree with you simon from a toon fan how can this be fair the rules have to be changed who makes these rules i will tell you the clubs who wanted to break away from the premiership
Liverpool were a 2nd division side once, its taken 60 odd years to get where we are not bending the rules to do it in 5mins win something for once then start shouting
FFP was brought in for one reason and one reason only to protect the red cartel and ensure that Newcastle or any other club will never get the chance to invest in their clubs.
@christophersharpe4322 Yeah poor Newcastle having to work on a £50 budget, So difficult not being able to spend 50/60 mil on a single player 😢 (oh wait)
The likes of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal earned the positions they are in by having a number of periods of sustained success, which resulted in them garnering a worldwide fanbase. There is nothing stopping other clubs from doing the same. The problem is that they and their fans have no patience and they want success and they want it now i.e. without all the time and effort put into achieving those things as was done by the three clubs I mentioned.
But the wealth created by those sustained periods of success means other teams can't keep up. They can't buy the top players that those clubs can so in reality they will never compete. But then that's exactly what is meant to happen isn't it ?
@kimstockwell721 All three of Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool have gone/went 11, 19, and 29 years without winning the league. That Was plenty of time for other clubs to get their act together and take advantage of those three club's struggles. The fact is they didn't. Why should those three club's who had previously put in the effort be punished? The answer is that they shouldn't be.
If you allow incredibly wealthy nations/individuals to buy football clubs and spend how they please, all you'll end up with is an F1 style arms race almost certainly between a tiny number of mega rich oil states.
The league has been won by Man City four years in a row. Why? ⛽💷💰💵💴 plus knowing they can effectively do what they please e.g. Government officials have 'had words with' their UAE counterparts = Little to no punishment for Man City post charges verdict, whilst a member of the Government (possibly as high ranking as it gets) 'had words with' the PL to make sure the Saudi takeover of Newcastle was allowed to go through. Yep that kind of thing is certainly not 'highly questionable', and it will definitely make the league fairer and more competitive.
Would you want a club other than your own to dominate the league for 5, 10, 20+ years simply because their owners have inexhaustible wealth? If you say yes you're either lying or you support one of those mega rich/state owned clubs.
@@jaysmith2858 What does get their act together mean ? And they are not being punished, all the other clubs want is the chance to compete . Why would you stifle another teams chance to build a competitive club ?
@@kimstockwell721 Nobody is stopping any other club from "getting its act together" and competing. As with any other sport, you have to put in the time and effort in order to compete with the best. What you and those like you want is akin to letting a currently no better than 10 seconds hundred metres sprinter take drugs so he can effectively instantaneously compete for and win an Olympic gold medal despite having done nothing to earn it.
Only those who would benefit from being financially doped up to the eyeballs think that would be right or fair.
@@jaysmith2858 They categorically are. 😆 PSR was invented for Newcastle. Clubs like MUFC, LFC, and AFC are systematically voting against anything that benefits Newcastle at every opportunity, whilst they pretend their dreams of a Super League weren't ever a rotten truth.
Pull the other one.
I love how hypocritical Simon is. Going in on City for supposed violations of FFP and wishing the 9 plagues on them and then laments how FFP is holding Newcastle back
Shove the trophies where the sun don’t shine… Newcastle v Juventus make it happen
can't win something with their hands tied with ffp psr and apt rules
There just gutted they cannot buy the title.
The bottom line is we HAVE to win a trophy to make our club attractive to players, and get that monkey off our backs, ive said it for ages that the carabou cup is our best and most realistic chance of a trophy.
'FFP HAS held back Newcastle' not 'have' held back. FFP is not a plural form so you need to do better with your title and English grammar. This is supposed to be a major channel. Not to mention that 'FFP held Newcastle back' would be better but that's minor compared to the former mistake.
Sorry but what history do Newcastle have? Wasn’t their last trophy in the 50’s?
Dickhead
"they love the experience of traveling" - well yea they need every excuse to get out of Newcastle 😂
The rules is not fair
Newcastle being a threat to the top 4 lasted long
What if everybody just spends what they want and takes the points hit, then we are back to square one , simples
Disgusting behaviour holding teams back . Unlawful they think there cleverly the premier league its a dam disgrace
Gonna have to sell one of the big names. Simple.
So typical of the toon to have the richest owners and not be able to spend a penny 😂
Sack him
Now
Amazing, when it only affected Manchester City it was a set of great and necessary rules but now when it affects other clubs it`s anti-competitive.
Wait a minute. Man city got taken over in 2008. FFP was implemented in 2012 at the earliest. City had plenty of time to spend enormous amounts of money and grow their club by the time they would get an infraction for doing so. Your simplifying it too much.
The long and short of it. Is that PSR/FFP doesn't work. Things have changed.
@@0GHacksNET FFP was implemented in 2011 solely to stop Manchester City from becoming a threat after winning the FA Cup. Manchester City investment arrived on the last day of the transfer window. To make a statement a last minute buy of Robinho £32m was made a further 4 first teamers arrived ranging from a more modest £6.5-£13m in the following January window, hardly gung-ho. Playing catch-up can be an expensive business the following season saw comings and goings with arrivals ranging from £5-£25m Tevez being the star buy from West Ham.
The next set of buys ranged from £9-£30m Dzeko being the star man and the title winning season saw the introduction of Nasri £22m and Aguero £36m. The upshot of that was City were running with losses of around £100m. This led to the red media campaign which worked other clubs and particularly their fans into a frenzy. Some of the most vociferous bile came from newcastle fans, oh the irony. Spending £36m on the best striker the pl as ever seen was an outrage and ruining English football, conveniently overlooking the fact that the rags were buying £30m players almost a decade before.
The 3yrs cycle saw City just fail ffp in 2014 along with lpool but it comes as no surprise which club the red media had collective amnesia about. The only reason ffp didn`t stop Manchester City was because they had already kicked in the barricades erected by the red cartel. The illegal PSR rules hastily introduced before the ink was dry on newcastle`s takeover is no surprise to Manchester City and their fans, we`ve been putting up with this witch hunt for 15yrs. Newcastle owe Manchester City a huge debt of gratitude as the only club with the balls to fight the injustice. Nothing has changed ffp/psr has never worked.
ah yes they've got to win something, like spurs, now like villa bla bla bla
they are not that good and havent been for a very long time, they arent worthy or deserving. Not now, not when they are allowed to spend funds either.
Hahaha...
EXCUSES EXCUSES for British managers... Let m tell you, Simon, it plain simple... Eddie Howe is not as good as you think...
Well i thought they had a lot of fans 😂
And they do.
@@jun3078why can't they generate revenue then?
@@leweegiggles You're ignoring the various investments and sponsorship deals that inflate revenues for other clubs. You're also forgetting that until Newcastle are able to either expand or move their stadium, SJP is the 8th largest in capacity - so there are several other stadiums that rake in far more money every year. It's about seats, but that alone, even an 80k seater, doesn't give NUFC league-winning money.
@@archivalhorror stadium costs aren't included in ffp so your little Eastern mates can build a new one tomorrow. The only thing that will shock them is the fact that they can't use slave labour in this country
PSR makes no sense when you sell two players for £70m in June but can then put a bid in for £70m for Guehi two months later. It's just a paper exercise - there's no difference in keeping those two players and not putting a bid in for Guehi, it's the same financial position.
No its not at all. PSR is measured yearly and the anderson/minteh 70m deals
are for last years balance sheet. the guehi bid would of been a cometely different season, in which we would of made the money back through sales and sponsors/club revenue by the end of THIS current season.
No **** Sherlock!
Overrated Howe can't even beat the so-called rubbish Ten Hag in the Mickey Mouse Carabao Cup ffs 😂😂
And then Newcastle beat Chelsea and arsenal in the space of a week right after this 👀😂
Hi F.A & EUFA Man City Its not guilty about sponsorship because spronsor company from arab had own rulle about structural company and its a loop hole fools E.U People