Sunday & Fugue: The Fall of Lucifer | Honkai: Star Rail Lore & Analysis

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  • @hine_dere
    @hine_dere 21 годину тому +38

    Isn't Lord of Silence Polka Kakamond and not IX?

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  21 годину тому +30

      True, that was a mistake I made.

    • @dreamychaos1001
      @dreamychaos1001 7 годин тому

      I thought of that moment I heard it, felt like I'd seen that name somewhere

  • @RukkhaRukkha
    @RukkhaRukkha 21 годину тому +58

    No one:
    Welt and Caelus: G R A V I T A T I O N A L D I S I N T E G R A T I O N

    • @YindigoYangMonk
      @YindigoYangMonk 18 годин тому +5

      Trailblazer be like: If you mess with me my dad will disintegrate you!

  • @badistbrother8384
    @badistbrother8384 20 годин тому +42

    I'm starting to think that, the mischievous Papeshi is a masked fool. The chaos caused was intentional.

    • @Dr4x77
      @Dr4x77 16 годин тому +5

      Of course, we already know that all that is happening is the plan of elio, all is going according to plan. Until that plot point is resolved all can be traced to the stellaron hunters

    • @jblitz200
      @jblitz200 8 годин тому

      So aha wanted Sunday and Tingyun to be connected that’s my GOAT

  • @Bubbleflute
    @Bubbleflute 18 годин тому +29

    What if Aether and Lumine are actually manifestations of a single entity much like sunday and wonweek . Perhaps, instead if being twins, they represent different aspects of the same individual.

    • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
      @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 17 годин тому +9

      Are you trying to say they are an Androgenous Descender like the Primordial One for example?
      That would be quite complicated. I personally see Sunday and Robin as counterparts to Aether and Lumine on some level.

  • @ReverseElectro
    @ReverseElectro 21 годину тому +37

    Your explanation of Tingyun’s new design is exactly why I like Hoyoverse’s characters. It’s not just “Oh, here’s a Chinese Nine-Tailed Fox” and call it a day. There’s a lot going on when you look into it with references to Nihility, Flowers (Ressurection), and Venus (Aphrodite, Ishtar, Morning Star). This way the character actually carries some meaning.

  • @matrixfull
    @matrixfull 18 годин тому +10

    btw if you go backward with 5 star Tingyun when she first appears story playable you get some extra dialogue:
    (Attempt to walk towards the Voidrangers, optional)
    ???: This path is so dark, yet it's strange, the farther I walk... the more at peace I feel...
    ???: ...?
    ???: Could it be that... this isn't the first time?
    (While walking)
    ???: That... looks so familiar.
    ???: Does she want to lead me somewhere...?

  • @slamburger6189
    @slamburger6189 21 годину тому +12

    I LOVE HOYOS USE OF LEITMOTIFS TO CONVEY FAMILIAR SCENES AND THEMES IN THEIR GAMES

  • @GothremenBhason
    @GothremenBhason 21 годину тому +17

    The Comercial and "Gravitational Disintegration" bits killed me XD

  • @Ironsuaba
    @Ironsuaba 17 годин тому +3

    "We fall so that we may learn to get ourselves up once again."

  • @NatureWatcher343
    @NatureWatcher343 20 годин тому +8

    Amphoreus about to be legendary

  • @idontspeakjapanese6289
    @idontspeakjapanese6289 21 годину тому +19

    Glad that I am not the only convinced that Sunday is much more related or referenced to Lucifer instead of Jesus

    • @DedeTheHut
      @DedeTheHut 21 годину тому +13

      There was no real debate over this topic anyway. The evidence supporting Sunday's thematic connection to the Morning Star is so overwhelming against any other alternatives to the point where you're arguing for its favour is essentially useless, it's like trying to argue that the Ocean is Blue... Well, yeah, but who cares to prove that?

    • @adir6094
      @adir6094 21 годину тому +4

      @@DedeTheHut also that most people don’t care….which is sad cuz it’s really good character building

    • @thederp9309
      @thederp9309 15 годин тому +3

      He’s pretty much both… he has many religious motifs that semantics don’t matter… he’s a hybrid

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 14 годин тому +3

      The Irony is that Morning Star also refers to Jesus as well. Morning Star is used to refer to Lucifer for so long people forgot and are surprised when Revelation also refers to Christ as the Morning Star. ​@@DedeTheHut

    • @paulamblard3836
      @paulamblard3836 13 годин тому

      what link could he have with Jesus ?
      (their is some prophet that would correspond far more.)

  • @beyonceverdadeiraoficial3997
    @beyonceverdadeiraoficial3997 19 годин тому +5

    the 8 pointed star thing made me remember of Kaehriah big entry under sumeru that is represented by an 8 pointed star

  • @whystaroth
    @whystaroth 19 годин тому +8

    Oh, new video, instantly a good day. Already hit the like, now I can watch it.

  • @nelumb000
    @nelumb000 8 годин тому

    I'm just here tearing up because I love how accurate you are and i can tell you're passionate about analysing the story I love it and thank you

  • @yiran_
    @yiran_ 12 годин тому +1

    Since you mentioned the concept of 9 in chinese culture, it remind me of a belief in my country that 9 signifies the ending and 0 signifies rebirth or new begining, we're close to china maybe we have same belief. It made me think that maybe IX will really engulf the world.

  • @Mindontcompute
    @Mindontcompute 17 годин тому +1

    Always interesting videos. I always expect new videos from you.

  • @jblitz200
    @jblitz200 8 годин тому

    Was hoping for a bit more connecting Sunday and Fugue so that there’s evidence of them working together in the future, but this is still a really good video I love both of them so much

  • @Xolents
    @Xolents 14 годин тому +1

    10:13 actual heaven

  • @hanchengjun275
    @hanchengjun275 7 годин тому

    FugeCoin stonks! Fluffy tails on top. Can’t wait for Amphoreus

  • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
    @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 20 годин тому +2

    Very good video

  • @ВладиславБериславский

    I told to myself... If I click that link and it's not a rickroll I`m not watching the video. God damn you are awesom

  • @Deepstab1
    @Deepstab1 11 годин тому

    Curiously I think scaramouche can also represent the demiurge in the sense that his mother abandoned him in a sealed place for being deemed a failure

  • @Chareddragon
    @Chareddragon 11 годин тому

    I don’t have the time to play so I watch these videos

  • @tycopsyche
    @tycopsyche 21 годину тому +5

    You can't fool me with your crypto scheme, Tingyun; I've already SPENT all my money! So joke's on you!

  • @paulamblard3836
    @paulamblard3836 13 годин тому

    Sunday remind me of 2 other characters from Genshin :
    Remus, and The Primordial one.

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 17 годин тому +2

    Was Sunday trying to free teyvat

    • @Apt23-v8u
      @Apt23-v8u 14 годин тому

      He's such a failure

  • @xanaviii
    @xanaviii 10 годин тому +2

    Man, these AI targeted ads just keep getting more invasive. How did it know to inject unskippable ads for fluffy tails and foxians?
    The ads even bypass UA-cam premium... I just bought 1 million Fugue coins.

  • @nettedteeth
    @nettedteeth 22 години тому +1

    Yippee!

  • @sekiezkogg
    @sekiezkogg 22 години тому +2

    FUGUECOIN????? WHAT??????? ????

  • @sigmaton0613
    @sigmaton0613 19 годин тому +3

    I got the headcanon that the travelers are the Children of Sunday and Aglaea, hence why their kit really meshes well.
    And "Phanes" is actually instead of an ambiguous gender is a couple god that establishes humanity on Teyvat in the Path of Order then things went to shit when the "Second" Descender came.

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy 15 годин тому +1

    The Fugecoin link isnt working :(

  • @bearKJi88
    @bearKJi88 18 годин тому +7

    Hmm...I still don't think Wonweek is Sunday's past self, since Sunday stated he is a possibility that he could have become, and more likely the him that didn't lost his faith in Xipe as he has more knowledge in tuning with the harmony as stated ingame during the quest. Like the only similarity Wonweek and 2.0-2.2 Sunday have is their smugness but that's it. Wonweek is more like the shadow Aventurine in 2.1. Also I don't know if you noticed but there were more Sundays not just Wonweek they were hidden away in Sunday's mindspace and then dissapeared when he used his tuning on himself and it's more likely that just like there was a slightly normal Tingyun, the slightly normal Sunday was Wonweek.

    • @NatureWatcher343
      @NatureWatcher343 17 годин тому +8

      That's a terrible analysis on your part because Sunday straight-up tells Welt towards the end that the laughing candy divided his fragile Self into two parts whereas Wonweek is clearly the other part. So you are just wrong.
      As for the "many Sundays" you mention, I think you are conflating the symbolism used in the quest as being actual physical material.

    • @WhiteGold-tg1qj
      @WhiteGold-tg1qj 17 годин тому

      Sunday told Welt that Wonweek represents everything he hates about himself.

    • @bearKJi88
      @bearKJi88 17 годин тому +1

      @@WhiteGold-tg1qj Sunday told Welt: "You could say that he is another possibility of me"...and the talking about how he had asspirations as a child which with time faded(he says this regarding Wonweek)... then continues: "Maybe if I had a small change in my childhood, I would have turned out to be exactly like him." then Wonweek says how he failed to become a better version of himself. That's the only thing he tells Welt

    • @bearKJi88
      @bearKJi88 17 годин тому

      @@WhiteGold-tg1qj no Sunday hates himself either way, also he didn't told Welt he only told it to Wonweek following how he hates frivolous people, like Wonweek, like he himself truly is but he represses his emotions as he says but despite all of that he still can't be like that because he won't abandon his principles to become a better person as Robin told him that he doesn't have to change himself.

  • @grunk9502
    @grunk9502 15 годин тому +1

    Cool 0 stakes rail

  • @lexical450
    @lexical450 16 годин тому +1

    I wish you would create another channel for the non genshin videos, it's such a bummer to see the notification pop up. Just to realize that it is a video about something else, yet again.

    • @Juniorwers
      @Juniorwers 15 годин тому +1

      brother just unsub.

    • @thederp9309
      @thederp9309 15 годин тому +1

      just don’t watch the video. It’s a fleeting moment where a lot of people would just move on and forget about it. You may need to revaluate your priorities.
      There’s not much need to create another channel

    • @lexical450
      @lexical450 14 годин тому

      @@Juniorwers Reading ≠ comprehending

    • @paulamblard3836
      @paulamblard3836 12 годин тому

      @@lexical450 the video is call "Sunday & Fugue: The Fall of Lucifer | Honkai: Star Rail Lore & Analysis" ...

    • @lexical450
      @lexical450 8 годин тому

      You could've done the same and yet here you are. As the wheel of hypocrisy keeps spinning, cute attempt at being "enlightened" though.