Ryan sent me here! I love how your essays were so distinct from each other, despite the shared core of The Gift of Fear. Ryan's was focused more on the overall structure and cohesion of the film, (hoyever) yours was more focused on the application of The Gift of Fear across many different scenarios mirrored in the script. I enjoyed both, and got different things out of them! Looking forward to checking out some of your other videos. 👍
Add me as another woman who immediately said 'Yeah, every woman has' to the opening question. The opening was horror fuel enough for me without even getting into being held captive by a baby crazy monster.
The idea that you *might* be in danger has to be the worst feeling because there's the associated guilt and shame that comes with "Well, what if I'm wrong?" And that's what "The Gift of Fear" is trying to eliminate.
@@CoolChannelDreadTube Especially because society reinforces that guilt and shame. And in every single direction possible. Not only those niggling doubts about what if you're wrong and not wanting to hurt someone's feelings but that if he does end up hurting you, whether you were nice or rude to him, it's your fault as a woman. Just putting yourself alone with a man means society will victim blame you the second something does happen to you - either you were a slut giving him signals or you should have been nicer and he wouldn't have hurt you.
Assuming it was rhetorical? Heck, I've felt that way without leaving the house given how the internet connects us. I was spooked out of my 15yr Facebook account by a creep who sent some cryptic messages 😭
I do think it's interesting that a lot of people decided that Keith was an actually nice person and not a threat because of his overall role in the story, when many of the things he was doing were very overtly pushing a romantic or sexual interest in Tess despite how inappropriate that was in the situation. In addition to the red flags mentioned in the video, one of the first things he does is to tell Tess how pretty her name is. He understands why she might have an issue with the tea but then dims the lights to create mood lighting when offering the wine (not to mention offering the wine at all). Then he hangs around after helping her set up the bed, seemingly waiting for an invitation to stay. Right to the end his character is ambiguous, maybe he would have turned out to be okay in the end, or maybe he would have justified Tess' initial wariness. I feel like that was kind of the point? His fate doesn't change any of the red flags about him. AJ being a buffoon doesn't make him less of a villain than Frank. His self-involved framing of his actions, excuses, and justifications his actions makes him just as much of a threat, not less. There's a lot to like about Barbarian, it's such a shame that the mood and themes set up in the beginning really fell flat with all the b-movie creature feature shlock. Making the main antagonist the main source of fear and disgust, undermines all of the real horror in the story when she was the most deserving of sympathy. Honestly Act I works great as an excellent very creep short film. (So would the sequence with Frank if you were in the mood to have a really bad day).
You really put it into words. I feel like most guys identify with Keith and think he's a good guy, especially because he dies before he could "do something" and isn't the "real villain". Watching his character act, especially after reading "The Gift of Fear" is so incredibly unsettling.
The greatest weapon predators use against their victims is our desires to be kind and to avoid hurting the feelings of others. Every story I've ever heard has involved the victim ignoring their own intuition because they didn't want to be rude. Predators try to seek out those of us who are such extreme people-pleasers we wouldn't want to hurt someone even as they were hurting us, as in an age so completely infected with narcissism, there are MANY of us who are like this. I know this is difficult, I've been there, but never forget this: You are not a commodity or service, and they are not a Yelp reviewer. You will never see this person again, and if they are actually good, they will understand exactly why you behaved in this manner. Do not take things personally by people who do not know you personally. Good luck and STAY SAFE OUT THERE, PARTY PEEPO! Much love!
To take it even deeper, the media plays up stories of abduction, assault, murder, etc. to the point where people, and especially women, go through life seeing EVERYONE as potential predators. This is naturally an exhausting way to live, and eventually we become so fed up with being afraid that we start to deliberately ignore very real red flags in people.
Something I try to remember, and extol to my daughters, is that there really is no such thing as a “deep down inside” version of anybody. You are what you do. If you act abusively, you are an abuser, not a good person deep down inside. You don’t really love someone deep down inside if you abuse them. AJ reminds me of why it’s important to remember that.
Barbarian really caught me off guard. From the beginning, I expected Bill's character to be a villain in secret leading the protagonist into a trap, only for him to turn out to be a normal dude who died first.
The film counted on it's audience to have the gift of fear but Tess was maddeningly oblivious - even as she tells Keith she would have never let him in she is sitting there sharing space with him, I would have never stepped foot in that house, no matter what offer he made I would have said "no thanks" and just been in my car and out of that neighborhood in a heart beat. In fact even turning my back to him to walk off would have started my heart beating faster.
About your question in the beginning. I was once on a date with a guy, it was a little awkward and stiff but I liked him. There weren't really any red flags (but I was also young and didn't know how to spot them), during a conversation we were laughing he touched my leg (an innocent gesture really)but it immediately felt wrong. I also had another interaction with a guy who definitely had more red flags but seemed nice enough but everytime I was around him I felt incredibly unsettled (I haven't really had that before or since with a stranger) my gut always screamed at me to get away from him. All this to say, always always listen to your gut, no matter what even if there is "no good reason", even if you just meet the person or their nice and everyone likes them. You don't want to stick around to find out why you had the feeling in the first place.
not to trauma dump, but sometimes the dudes who are "so clueless they don't realize they're predators" do realize it, and they're using cognitive dissonance to tell themselves "well i'm not THAT dude so im fine". I once had someone have sex with me against my stated will, and after i acquiesced and let it happen with a freeze response and disassociation, said afterwards "wow, that felt like r for a minute." also thinking about it, reading a pickup artists book is like reading the gift of fear, but from the POV of the predator. Negging, aka typecasting. Loan-sharking - aka tethering. the aforementioned "friend" of mine from the earlier paragraph once defended pickup artists. which should have maybe made me think a bit more.
I know about half a dozen women with that same story. I'm sure someone has created a more academic term for it, but I call it "trait morality," as in "I have a set of fixed traits and one of them is that I am against 'that r thing', and since I'm morally opposed to it, the thing I did can't possibly *be* that." It's the danger of judging people as being moral or immoral instead of judging actions as moral or immoral. 🤷♂ And yeah, when I was reading through The Gift of Fear, I remember thinking, "I've heard all this somewhere before!" It's the Mystery Method.
Honestly that's extremely common in predators, both male and female. I've met several people whose mothers where abhorrent to them as children, but who consistently rationalized it by saying "she was doing what she thought was best for them."
This movie was amazing & actually had me switch the light on. The use of Bill Skarsgard as a red herring was brilliant. I was still suspicious of him even after his death... like maybe he had a connection to the "family". Juxtapose Bill Skarsgard usual suspect to Justin Long's normally disarming "good guy" characters is an interesting & great way to defy expectations.
I finished the movie thinking the plot was all over the place-- but seeing this review really made me rethink the purpose of the film. This was an amazing analysis-- gonna read the gift of fear too (coulda saved me from past trauma lol). I hope your channel blows up, man. Subscribed 🤠
I think the second part is really important. You can make a socio-political point all you want, but FIRST you have to make a good movie. It can't *just* be theme with no other substance.
I personally feel like the most unrealistic part of the movie is A.J's team and financial advisor dropping him and him getting immediate consequences for SAing his costar. Other than that I love and appreciate the movie so much. Thank you for the great video :)
Came here via Ryan, so glad he recommended! Great, well put together video. Love how you explain things and love the clips you use with what you're saying. Looking forward to checking out all your other vids!
Great analysis. It's kind of incredible of how depraved and monstrous Frank is, considering that the Creature *literally* has the strength, constitution, and endurance to a) rip a full grown man's body limb from limb b) survive being struck by a car and being pinned against a wall and c) survive a 2-3 story fall. Yet she *dare* doesn't approach Frank's liar. She clearly has the capability to kills this evil awful guy (who no doubt fathered her and r*ped/impregnated her at some point in her life) but he's the untouchable Patriarch that's cemented in a lot of women's psyche, both the tormenter but also the protector. Scary.
The interesting thing with the Keith character is that we will never know what kind of person he would be if there wasn't a monster. If he wouldn't have been killed, would he actually turn out to be a good guy? Or would his creepyness get confirmed? I guess we'll never know for sure..
This movie also gave me a revelation of how us men can be so clueless or entitled with the situation. As a man, i watched this movie knowing nothing and there were several times i find myself asking why Tess seemed hostile to someone who seemed clearly nice like Keith, and i also found the firstv act more endearing and charming than alarming. But then after watching some analysis i realized i have been looking at the situation under the lens of a man, not a woman. And when i switched the lens, everything u and other analysises said, made perfect sense. It does feel sus even with Keith's decent and altruistic presence
Fantastic essay! The criticism of the patriarchy and how women have to worry all the time about not being attacked was a hidden but constant tension throughout the film. Which is why even before I saw Frank's story, I jumped out of my seat when I heard AJ's explanation to his friend about what happened with his female colleague that night. And it made perfect sense with that "ordeal/punishment" he receives when he is forced to be breastfed by the creature and when he sees those videos of frank's brutal rapes. There I was deceived that he would have a redemption arc, but the director reminds us that emotional changes are a cheap lie.
Great video! Gave me a lot to think about, especially that first section breaking down each of those signs. I remember finding myself during that part of the movie wanting to believe that he was a good guy, that this was all just a misunderstanding, and it was crazy how you pointed that out as well. 😅
I totally made the link with the Dahmer case as well, I wonder if it was intentional ! In both cases, black women in poor neighborhood s call the police for help and are dismissed as crazy, exaggerating, or too emotional it's so infuriating!
Zach Cregger took what was essentially a self-defense book and adapted it into a horror movie. What are some of *your* favorite creative adaptations? *Note:* I'm now seeing a lot of comments get screened and held for review by UA-cam's automated system. There can be a number of innocent reasons for this. If you post two comments really quickly or post similar comments, it thinks you're a bot (for example). But also, the general rules are 1) be productive in comments, 2) don't use profanity or racial slurs because YT is funny about that and also... dude, wtf? 3) don't be creepy.
Love this video! I'm not great with expanding that type of sentiment, but I wanna comment for the engagement. May the Almighty Algorithm carry you to the success you clearly deserve with this quality content :)
Good analysis. Does anyone know an analysis of Barbarian with more critique/ focus on the monster? Like many people I didn't like that arc but I think that's why it often just gets ignored, I'd like to see someone getting more into how that fits in
@ryanhollinger touches on how problematic it is. Dead Meat also talk about it on their podcast. ua-cam.com/video/jPlFYAB1q4A/v-deo.htmlsi=5N_VtVslOlj3ryoG
@CoolChannelDreadTube thanks I saw that but he didn't get much into it either. I guess, Frank represents the ultimate danger that lives in the basement, he is what you fear some random guy you don't know (e.g. a Keith or AJ) may really be like, the ultimate predator. And she is the opposite, the ultimate victim or the fear inside you? Is there some commentary that that is where extreme fear might lead to, being overprotective, stuck, not letting yourself/your children grow and go out in the world to save them from the potential predator, while despite all that strength and destructiveness when eliminating every potential danger, it is still to weak to dare to turn on the real cause of it? I think I can see something there but the execution within the story was clumsy
Mo Hayder, the writer. And Hans Herbots adapted two of her books The Treatment (impossible to recommend, is that disturbing) And the Ritual 2022 also based in Hayder book. Dread reach another level under Mo Hayder- Read all her books in order, and leave to last The Devil of Naking the most dreadful and sad history horror book ever made. To enter the Mo Hayder world. 3 books: Birdman - a book no one will ever be able to adapt to a movie; The Treatment and the Devil of Naking. Enjoy dread as its best under Mo Hayder
Just want to add..that you shoukd teach a course on presentations id sign up...even the on depth knowledge like ....how being nice is a decision...that's been a personal struggle for me
I don't think so. Keith probably was a good guy. We'll never know (RIP). The point of the book is that a really good predator will try their best to look like an ally. And at that point, if the two are identical, how can you stay safe? I can't speak for women, but from my own experience, just continuing to be an ally even if someone remains suspicious of you and your motives, is real allyship. 🤷♂️
What Keith repeatedly fails to do is make space for Tess’s gut and agency. First he expects her to trust him, then he insists on getting her bags, then later he tries to align himself with her fears by acknowledging that he can understand why she wouldn’t trust him. His actual intentions aren’t malicious, but to answer your question- how to be a good ally- the key, gut-check misstep by Keith is that he never makes it ok for Tess to just make up her own mind about what her next move should be. This isn’t about whether or not she wants his help, but whether it is her decision to request or accept his help. He is too steering. TL;DR: absolutely, offer assistance, solidarity, whatever makes sense for the situation- you can even make it clear that you would really like to help- but it needs to be a sincere offer that can be accepted or declined with a neutral response. Especially with someone you don’t know well.
@@maryhodges7152 Regardless of any overstepping or carelessness involved in his actions, it was pretty clear to me that Keith was a nice guy with good intentions. I think your take is a bit heavy-handed here.
His problem was that he didn't trust her and recklessly put himself in danger, while she cared for his safety and ended up following him into that danger. Ultimately he's meant to symbolize the more subtle harms of patriarchy, including its effect on innocent and decent men. His lack of respect for what she had to say, deciding he needed to see for himself, is one of the most common small knives in the back of many women. It's painful being treated like a child who doesn't know anything in comparison to how easily men are taken seriously and as an authority.
I don't think Keith was intended by Creggers to be a bad guy. Creggers just wanted to show that good guys can raise red flags. But one of the points of the book was "don't assume someone's a good person" and I think we've been raised by movie logic to say "Keith was actually a good guy all along because he got killed." We really don't know enough about Keith either way. 🤷♂️
@@CoolChannelDreadTube In some ways Keith just seemed to me as a guy who's just really bad at flirting. I wouldn't call him a bad guy, just someone who has little to no experience in how to act with women. He looks confused and also scared at what might her response be to him obviously trying to attract her. On the other hand, I was honestly surprised that he wasn't the rapist haha. I mean, this is a horror film named "Barbarian". I thought he was the one. If the movie was a romance flick everything in the first act would just be funny/silly/clumsy on Keith's part. Hell, I was kinda like him when I was 16 or something and honest to God I never hurt a fly in my life, while women... oh wow... women... they sure knew how to break me many times. Thankfully, I am over all that now but I still kinda think that this obsession with misogyny in modern society is, from my perspective, really overblown. Both men and women can be good or bad.
@@markokecman1177 I think Keith's character is the mirror to the audience. He, like us, has been clearly raised in a post-feminist society, in which he's extremely aware of the perception of men as predators towards women, and thus acts to be extra courteous and accommodating towards Tess, despite her admitting she'd never have done the same for him. The irony is that these behaviors are simultaneously considered to be red flags for possible predators. So it's an interesting situation in which women will be MORE afraid of men who actually try to act in ways that make them LESS afraid. The amusing thing is that both unassuming Keith and the shouty homeless guy weren't threats. But AJ, the most effete and unimposing normal person in the film is the only one who actually is a predator.
I will say "Relic" as a book freaked me out! I was disappointed in the movie since they changed a number of things and the monster wasn't super impressive.
13:34 **STOP** Admittedly I can't know everything but I CAN say without a doubt that I have never heard anyone say "DUDE BRO" before I said it aprox 12yrs ago. I was very specific in my usage of the term. I can also state, unequivocally, that I came up with the term independently based on my own personal experiences with that demographic. Obviously, there's nothing new under the sun but I must admit that it was terribly jarring to hear it said on UA-cam by someone I have no connection with. Oh well like they say... Great minds think alike. ✌🧡🌈
Some victims use that term to describe what happened to them too. When it comes to sexual assault the nature of it is all triggering isn't it? I don't think it minimizes the reality of what happened. But I'm willing to listen to why it's considered problematic if you wouldn't mind explaining.
Ryan sent me here! I love how your essays were so distinct from each other, despite the shared core of The Gift of Fear. Ryan's was focused more on the overall structure and cohesion of the film, (hoyever) yours was more focused on the application of The Gift of Fear across many different scenarios mirrored in the script. I enjoyed both, and got different things out of them! Looking forward to checking out some of your other videos. 👍
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Same. You can recognize a true Hollinger fan by their use of “hoyever.” Both videos make for excellent companion pieces.
Add me as another woman who immediately said 'Yeah, every woman has' to the opening question. The opening was horror fuel enough for me without even getting into being held captive by a baby crazy monster.
The idea that you *might* be in danger has to be the worst feeling because there's the associated guilt and shame that comes with "Well, what if I'm wrong?" And that's what "The Gift of Fear" is trying to eliminate.
@@CoolChannelDreadTube Especially because society reinforces that guilt and shame. And in every single direction possible. Not only those niggling doubts about what if you're wrong and not wanting to hurt someone's feelings but that if he does end up hurting you, whether you were nice or rude to him, it's your fault as a woman. Just putting yourself alone with a man means society will victim blame you the second something does happen to you - either you were a slut giving him signals or you should have been nicer and he wouldn't have hurt you.
Assuming it was rhetorical? Heck, I've felt that way without leaving the house given how the internet connects us. I was spooked out of my 15yr Facebook account by a creep who sent some cryptic messages 😭
I do think it's interesting that a lot of people decided that Keith was an actually nice person and not a threat because of his overall role in the story, when many of the things he was doing were very overtly pushing a romantic or sexual interest in Tess despite how inappropriate that was in the situation. In addition to the red flags mentioned in the video, one of the first things he does is to tell Tess how pretty her name is. He understands why she might have an issue with the tea but then dims the lights to create mood lighting when offering the wine (not to mention offering the wine at all). Then he hangs around after helping her set up the bed, seemingly waiting for an invitation to stay. Right to the end his character is ambiguous, maybe he would have turned out to be okay in the end, or maybe he would have justified Tess' initial wariness. I feel like that was kind of the point? His fate doesn't change any of the red flags about him.
AJ being a buffoon doesn't make him less of a villain than Frank. His self-involved framing of his actions, excuses, and justifications his actions makes him just as much of a threat, not less.
There's a lot to like about Barbarian, it's such a shame that the mood and themes set up in the beginning really fell flat with all the b-movie creature feature shlock. Making the main antagonist the main source of fear and disgust, undermines all of the real horror in the story when she was the most deserving of sympathy.
Honestly Act I works great as an excellent very creep short film. (So would the sequence with Frank if you were in the mood to have a really bad day).
You really put it into words. I feel like most guys identify with Keith and think he's a good guy, especially because he dies before he could "do something" and isn't the "real villain". Watching his character act, especially after reading "The Gift of Fear" is so incredibly unsettling.
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The greatest weapon predators use against their victims is our desires to be kind and to avoid hurting the feelings of others. Every story I've ever heard has involved the victim ignoring their own intuition because they didn't want to be rude. Predators try to seek out those of us who are such extreme people-pleasers we wouldn't want to hurt someone even as they were hurting us, as in an age so completely infected with narcissism, there are MANY of us who are like this. I know this is difficult, I've been there, but never forget this: You are not a commodity or service, and they are not a Yelp reviewer. You will never see this person again, and if they are actually good, they will understand exactly why you behaved in this manner. Do not take things personally by people who do not know you personally. Good luck and STAY SAFE OUT THERE, PARTY PEEPO! Much love!
To take it even deeper, the media plays up stories of abduction, assault, murder, etc. to the point where people, and especially women, go through life seeing EVERYONE as potential predators. This is naturally an exhausting way to live, and eventually we become so fed up with being afraid that we start to deliberately ignore very real red flags in people.
Something I try to remember, and extol to my daughters, is that there really is no such thing as a “deep down inside” version of anybody. You are what you do. If you act abusively, you are an abuser, not a good person deep down inside. You don’t really love someone deep down inside if you abuse them. AJ reminds me of why it’s important to remember that.
YES. BARBARIAN IS GENUINELY THE BEST FEMINIST MEDIA I HAVE ENCOUNTERED AND NOW I CAN EXPLAIN WHY
Barbarian really caught me off guard. From the beginning, I expected Bill's character to be a villain in secret leading the protagonist into a trap, only for him to turn out to be a normal dude who died first.
The film counted on it's audience to have the gift of fear but Tess was maddeningly oblivious - even as she tells Keith she would have never let him in she is sitting there sharing space with him, I would have never stepped foot in that house, no matter what offer he made I would have said "no thanks" and just been in my car and out of that neighborhood in a heart beat. In fact even turning my back to him to walk off would have started my heart beating faster.
About your question in the beginning. I was once on a date with a guy, it was a little awkward and stiff but I liked him. There weren't really any red flags (but I was also young and didn't know how to spot them), during a conversation we were laughing he touched my leg (an innocent gesture really)but it immediately felt wrong. I also had another interaction with a guy who definitely had more red flags but seemed nice enough but everytime I was around him I felt incredibly unsettled (I haven't really had that before or since with a stranger) my gut always screamed at me to get away from him. All this to say, always always listen to your gut, no matter what even if there is "no good reason", even if you just meet the person or their nice and everyone likes them. You don't want to stick around to find out why you had the feeling in the first place.
not to trauma dump, but sometimes the dudes who are "so clueless they don't realize they're predators" do realize it, and they're using cognitive dissonance to tell themselves "well i'm not THAT dude so im fine". I once had someone have sex with me against my stated will, and after i acquiesced and let it happen with a freeze response and disassociation, said afterwards "wow, that felt like r for a minute."
also thinking about it, reading a pickup artists book is like reading the gift of fear, but from the POV of the predator. Negging, aka typecasting. Loan-sharking - aka tethering. the aforementioned "friend" of mine from the earlier paragraph once defended pickup artists. which should have maybe made me think a bit more.
I know about half a dozen women with that same story. I'm sure someone has created a more academic term for it, but I call it "trait morality," as in "I have a set of fixed traits and one of them is that I am against 'that r thing', and since I'm morally opposed to it, the thing I did can't possibly *be* that." It's the danger of judging people as being moral or immoral instead of judging actions as moral or immoral. 🤷♂
And yeah, when I was reading through The Gift of Fear, I remember thinking, "I've heard all this somewhere before!" It's the Mystery Method.
Honestly that's extremely common in predators, both male and female. I've met several people whose mothers where abhorrent to them as children, but who consistently rationalized it by saying "she was doing what she thought was best for them."
@@derek96720 Oh that’s an interesting point. Most “strict" parents tend to do that.
As someone who answered yes to the question... The last line gave me literal chills.
This and Tucker and Dale versus Evil made for an interesting double feature on our perception of potential predators.
I never thought of that, but you're absolutely right!
This movie was amazing & actually had me switch the light on. The use of Bill Skarsgard as a red herring was brilliant. I was still suspicious of him even after his death... like maybe he had a connection to the "family". Juxtapose Bill Skarsgard usual suspect to Justin Long's normally disarming "good guy" characters is an interesting & great way to defy expectations.
In the barbarian movie i would of left the moment the house was double booked.
I would of driven away that second.
I think most people, especially women, probably would bolt in that situation.
Me too, I would have never stepped foot in that house.
What an insightful video! You approached the material with sensitivity and respect; well-done!
the use of that Dennis Reynolds clip is genius
I finished the movie thinking the plot was all over the place-- but seeing this review really made me rethink the purpose of the film. This was an amazing analysis-- gonna read the gift of fear too (coulda saved me from past trauma lol). I hope your channel blows up, man. Subscribed 🤠
Barbarian was a wild ride and much deeper than I thought. It handled its themes well without being preachy
I think the second part is really important. You can make a socio-political point all you want, but FIRST you have to make a good movie. It can't *just* be theme with no other substance.
@@CoolChannelDreadTube Very true. Without a quality 🎥, a message can never be seen. Parasite is an example this
I personally feel like the most unrealistic part of the movie is A.J's team and financial advisor dropping him and him getting immediate consequences for SAing his costar. Other than that I love and appreciate the movie so much. Thank you for the great video :)
your channel is so underrated ♥️ hope to see you grow
Came here via Ryan, so glad he recommended! Great, well put together video. Love how you explain things and love the clips you use with what you're saying. Looking forward to checking out all your other vids!
Great video. As a female myself, I can relate to every uncomfortable feeling this film wanted me to feel
Okay, you just laid out why Skangard's character left me uncomfortable in the level he did. It was not just his previous roles 😮
How do you not have 100k!?!? Your vids are so amazing!!!! Im subscribing right now!
Barbarian and Psycho are some of my favorite horror movies, so I appreciate that you compared the two! I never noticed the similarities between them!
Great analysis. It's kind of incredible of how depraved and monstrous Frank is, considering that the Creature *literally* has the strength, constitution, and endurance to a) rip a full grown man's body limb from limb b) survive being struck by a car and being pinned against a wall and c) survive a 2-3 story fall. Yet she *dare* doesn't approach Frank's liar. She clearly has the capability to kills this evil awful guy (who no doubt fathered her and r*ped/impregnated her at some point in her life) but he's the untouchable Patriarch that's cemented in a lot of women's psyche, both the tormenter but also the protector. Scary.
The interesting thing with the Keith character is that we will never know what kind of person he would be if there wasn't a monster. If he wouldn't have been killed, would he actually turn out to be a good guy? Or would his creepyness get confirmed? I guess we'll never know for sure..
This movie also gave me a revelation of how us men can be so clueless or entitled with the situation. As a man, i watched this movie knowing nothing and there were several times i find myself asking why Tess seemed hostile to someone who seemed clearly nice like Keith, and i also found the firstv act more endearing and charming than alarming. But then after watching some analysis i realized i have been looking at the situation under the lens of a man, not a woman. And when i switched the lens, everything u and other analysises said, made perfect sense. It does feel sus even with Keith's decent and altruistic presence
So... why do you only have 191 subs??...
Well, now 192 👍 great video man. Looking forward to future uploads
I think most of my content flies under the algorithm's radar. But thanks for the support and I'm glad you like it!
absolutely phenomenal video! instant subscriber
Ok. This video is much better than I could expect
Fantastic essay!
The criticism of the patriarchy and how women have to worry all the time about not being attacked was a hidden but constant tension throughout the film. Which is why even before I saw Frank's story, I jumped out of my seat when I heard AJ's explanation to his friend about what happened with his female colleague that night. And it made perfect sense with that "ordeal/punishment" he receives when he is forced to be breastfed by the creature and when he sees those videos of frank's brutal rapes. There I was deceived that he would have a redemption arc, but the director reminds us that emotional changes are a cheap lie.
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Great video! Gave me a lot to think about, especially that first section breaking down each of those signs. I remember finding myself during that part of the movie wanting to believe that he was a good guy, that this was all just a misunderstanding, and it was crazy how you pointed that out as well. 😅
I totally made the link with the Dahmer case as well, I wonder if it was intentional ! In both cases, black women in poor neighborhood s call the police for help and are dismissed as crazy, exaggerating, or too emotional it's so infuriating!
It was black men in the case of Dahmer, which adds the layer of homophobia
@@angiejilani I was referring to Dahmer's neighbour, who called the police countless times and was dismissed everytime
Zach Cregger took what was essentially a self-defense book and adapted it into a horror movie. What are some of *your* favorite creative adaptations?
*Note:* I'm now seeing a lot of comments get screened and held for review by UA-cam's automated system. There can be a number of innocent reasons for this. If you post two comments really quickly or post similar comments, it thinks you're a bot (for example). But also, the general rules are 1) be productive in comments, 2) don't use profanity or racial slurs because YT is funny about that and also... dude, wtf? 3) don't be creepy.
Man i used watch wkuk religiously when i was in highschool and seeing zach making a hit movie like this is amazing 👍🏼 awesome content btw
It's sad we likely won't get to see his and Trevor's movie they were working on just before Trevor's passing.
@@heylookitsthatonedude900 what?? I wasn't updated with them anymore for awhile, I had to look it up, that's horrible, thank for the update tho
@@jujubean9142 they have an amazing dnd session they did during lockdown on their main channel
I love Barbarian, it's a great film.
I've got to get this book. Great video.
To be fair though, using these common female horrors can definitely explain why the movie is so effective for some people.
Thank you, very insightful.
"If you're a woman watching this video: Have you ever...?"
YEP!
I’m so excited for this one!
Really interesting analysis. Glad I found your channel.
Love this video! I'm not great with expanding that type of sentiment, but I wanna comment for the engagement. May the Almighty Algorithm carry you to the success you clearly deserve with this quality content :)
I loved Barbarian! I saw it in the theater twice, and I haven't done that since The Italian Job (2003)!
I saw it opening weekend with a pretty raucous crowd that really seemed to appreciate it.
You definitely deserve to be a mainstream movie review channel dude!
@13:30, self serving bias. Oof, that explains a couple people I've known, and thankfully don't have to deal with anymore.
Good analysis. Does anyone know an analysis of Barbarian with more critique/ focus on the monster? Like many people I didn't like that arc but I think that's why it often just gets ignored, I'd like to see someone getting more into how that fits in
@ryanhollinger touches on how problematic it is. Dead Meat also talk about it on their podcast.
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@CoolChannelDreadTube thanks I saw that but he didn't get much into it either. I guess, Frank represents the ultimate danger that lives in the basement, he is what you fear some random guy you don't know (e.g. a Keith or AJ) may really be like, the ultimate predator. And she is the opposite, the ultimate victim or the fear inside you? Is there some commentary that that is where extreme fear might lead to, being overprotective, stuck, not letting yourself/your children grow and go out in the world to save them from the potential predator, while despite all that strength and destructiveness when eliminating every potential danger, it is still to weak to dare to turn on the real cause of it? I think I can see something there but the execution within the story was clumsy
Mo Hayder, the writer. And Hans Herbots adapted two of her books The Treatment (impossible to recommend, is that disturbing) And the Ritual 2022 also based in Hayder book. Dread reach another level under Mo Hayder- Read all her books in order, and leave to last The Devil of Naking the most dreadful and sad history horror book ever made. To enter the Mo Hayder world. 3 books: Birdman - a book no one will ever be able to adapt to a movie; The Treatment and the Devil of Naking. Enjoy dread as its best under Mo Hayder
This was incredible, an immediate subscribe!
Great vid
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!
Amazing recap
Just want to add..that you shoukd teach a course on presentations id sign up...even the on depth knowledge like ....how being nice is a decision...that's been a personal struggle for me
Great vídeo 😊
I always wonder: What can I do as a male ally? Ithought that Keith really wanted to be a good guy. Am I just oblivious?
I don't think so. Keith probably was a good guy. We'll never know (RIP).
The point of the book is that a really good predator will try their best to look like an ally. And at that point, if the two are identical, how can you stay safe?
I can't speak for women, but from my own experience, just continuing to be an ally even if someone remains suspicious of you and your motives, is real allyship. 🤷♂️
What Keith repeatedly fails to do is make space for Tess’s gut and agency. First he expects her to trust him, then he insists on getting her bags, then later he tries to align himself with her fears by acknowledging that he can understand why she wouldn’t trust him. His actual intentions aren’t malicious, but to answer your question- how to be a good ally- the key, gut-check misstep by Keith is that he never makes it ok for Tess to just make up her own mind about what her next move should be. This isn’t about whether or not she wants his help, but whether it is her decision to request or accept his help. He is too steering.
TL;DR: absolutely, offer assistance, solidarity, whatever makes sense for the situation- you can even make it clear that you would really like to help- but it needs to be a sincere offer that can be accepted or declined with a neutral response. Especially with someone you don’t know well.
@@maryhodges7152 Regardless of any overstepping or carelessness involved in his actions, it was pretty clear to me that Keith was a nice guy with good intentions. I think your take is a bit heavy-handed here.
His problem was that he didn't trust her and recklessly put himself in danger, while she cared for his safety and ended up following him into that danger. Ultimately he's meant to symbolize the more subtle harms of patriarchy, including its effect on innocent and decent men.
His lack of respect for what she had to say, deciding he needed to see for himself, is one of the most common small knives in the back of many women. It's painful being treated like a child who doesn't know anything in comparison to how easily men are taken seriously and as an authority.
3:01 may be one of the biggest jaw drop moments I've ever had ngl lol
Read an article that claimed this film positions “old people” as the villain to capitalize off the fear of aging. 😮
I think the character design has a lot of elements that resemble aging. We saw that a lot in 2022 horror movies.
Was Keith a bad guy? I think he was not, maybe he wanted to be friends with Tess, though initially the situation was scary from the POV of Tess.
I don't think Keith was intended by Creggers to be a bad guy. Creggers just wanted to show that good guys can raise red flags. But one of the points of the book was "don't assume someone's a good person" and I think we've been raised by movie logic to say "Keith was actually a good guy all along because he got killed." We really don't know enough about Keith either way. 🤷♂️
@@CoolChannelDreadTube In some ways Keith just seemed to me as a guy who's just really bad at flirting. I wouldn't call him a bad guy, just someone who has little to no experience in how to act with women. He looks confused and also scared at what might her response be to him obviously trying to attract her.
On the other hand, I was honestly surprised that he wasn't the rapist haha. I mean, this is a horror film named "Barbarian". I thought he was the one. If the movie was a romance flick everything in the first act would just be funny/silly/clumsy on Keith's part. Hell, I was kinda like him when I was 16 or something and honest to God I never hurt a fly in my life, while women... oh wow... women... they sure knew how to break me many times. Thankfully, I am over all that now but I still kinda think that this obsession with misogyny in modern society is, from my perspective, really overblown. Both men and women can be good or bad.
@@markokecman1177 I think Keith's character is the mirror to the audience. He, like us, has been clearly raised in a post-feminist society, in which he's extremely aware of the perception of men as predators towards women, and thus acts to be extra courteous and accommodating towards Tess, despite her admitting she'd never have done the same for him. The irony is that these behaviors are simultaneously considered to be red flags for possible predators.
So it's an interesting situation in which women will be MORE afraid of men who actually try to act in ways that make them LESS afraid. The amusing thing is that both unassuming Keith and the shouty homeless guy weren't threats. But AJ, the most effete and unimposing normal person in the film is the only one who actually is a predator.
@@markokecman1177 what makes you say that discussions of misogyny are overblown?
Forgive me for coming off a bit weird, but, you have a nice and trustworthy face...almost too trustworthy..-_-
Excellent video too btw.👍👍
Thank you!
Maybe I'll run for office one day. 😁
Accurate.
I will say "Relic" as a book freaked me out! I was disappointed in the movie since they changed a number of things and the monster wasn't super impressive.
I'll have to check out the book. I barely remember the events of the movie.
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13:34 **STOP**
Admittedly I can't know everything but I CAN say without a doubt that I have never heard anyone say "DUDE BRO" before I said it aprox 12yrs ago. I was very specific in my usage of the term. I can also state, unequivocally, that I came up with the term independently based on my own personal experiences with that demographic. Obviously, there's nothing new under the sun but I must admit that it was terribly jarring to hear it said on UA-cam by someone I have no connection with. Oh well like they say... Great minds think alike. ✌🧡🌈
Danielle Byers huh. That must suck.
I didn’t like it
Btw- the term "date rape" is really problematic and triggering for abuse survivors
I truly feel like any term can be triggering for survivors of any form. It just comes with the territory of videos on topics mentioned.
Some victims use that term to describe what happened to them too. When it comes to sexual assault the nature of it is all triggering isn't it? I don't think it minimizes the reality of what happened. But I'm willing to listen to why it's considered problematic if you wouldn't mind explaining.