I feel you severely undersell adaptability, at least for Void Dwellers. Since Void Dwellers can't get extra building slots from districts and spam habitats, an extra building slot is quite rare and when used in dozens of habitats, very useful. Not to mention Habitat prospecting! As Void Dweller you are incredibly dependent on rng giving you planets with mineral/energy/science to build your habitats and this finisher not only cancels out any bad rng but ensures EVRYWHERE is a good habitat spot!
Well I don't think Science Habitats/districts are as necessary anymore outside of the early game because of Voidborne Ascension perk giving +2 building slots and Functional Architecture giving +2 building slots which lets you cram quite a lot of researchers into a habitat even without the research district
@@JoViljarHaugstulen After 2300 when you make plenty of ressources? Of course! In 2210 when you're still building in your first three habitats and minerals aren't plentiful? Getting both housing and jobs in one spending is very useful then! Of course, it's not nearly as important as mining or energy habitats, lack of which will cripple your game...
You can get 2 by taking Voidborne perk or Functional Architecture civic. There's other trees which open building slots and once out of the early game spamming habitats solves issues, so Adaptability is a later optional pick. Any colony should have a district and building specialisation plan for efficiency reasons, swapping research to districts is therefore useful as is the hydroponics in base/building slots. Having some bot jobs in habitats reduces housing consumption, saving a district or slot. A mining habitat with bots, will similarly have building slots spare without a need for housing districts. Research districts in research habs are great, I like them for planet empires too, you gain output without requiring a lot of gas or relic worlds and gain spare building slots for other stuff OR extra research.
Just a quick fact: with a planetary shield generator, the unyielding tree and the adaptability tree you can reduce the bombardment damage taken to 0% and nothing except Colossus Ships can remove your cheeky little habitat out of the border system. This is a must if you want to turtle against a fallen empire or any crisis. There may be some Boni to get some damage through, but even then it's painfully slow.
tested this, some damage will still come through, so there seems to be a minimum amount of damage always dealt. Still you can ensure it takes 10+ years to bomb your planet. This combines well with reanimated armies, as you get extremely strong defense armies which take over the attacking armies.
-10% Starbase Influence cost is criminally undervalued in all of these analysis videos. This helps you push your initial borders so much farther, especially if you're racing for chokepoints to push for more star clusters.
But considet alternatives to achieve the benefit! As a void dweller Megacorp, I went for influence reduction via perk, because one direction was blocked by marauders, the other had a blackhole at 5 hops, then I discovered the choke, with a spiral arm junction beyond it. In the situation, Interstellar Dominion was taken which made a huge difference, especially as the leader picked up extra bonus. Expansion doesn't help much early game, so I go Discovery usually. The planned tallish calm early build up, turned into a massive land grab and taking the key point effectively secured the game.
@@RobBCactive There has yet to be a game I've played as a Megacorp, even Void Born, where taking Expansion and then one tradition in for the influence reduction wasn't the optimal play. Even if you move off to something else afterward. I even go so far as to avoid taking any other systems until I have that tradition. Extra systems for the extra resources are just too valuable throughout the game to lose out early. Plus, as a MegaCorp, that extra influence savings over time is worth extra branch offices. The early game is where you really need that specific part of Expansion. Yes, every empire and situation will be different, that is the nature of the game. But I have an unfortunately large number of hours in the game and every time I don't take the influence reduction first I regret it.
@@just_gut -20% vs -10% influence, if you get tech going fast first you can research pop growth and economic things sooner, then expand faster. Now, you need Mercantile or Diplo and a trade league or your unity progress will slow greatly during the 2nd tradition or there's not enough CGs for research if you have early unity jobs. There's more than 1 way and expansion isn't particularly good for void dwellers v. early because you don't need second systems even, nor to colonise new habitats till the 2nd decade and migration treaties are unlikely. The pop growth can be boosted by tech and Interstellar Dominion is a bigger influence discount. A fan xphile doesn't need Universal Transactions and getting closer to customers, brings its own discount, so I really don't consider Expansion optimal pre-3.1, completing tech faster is
Worst feeling was playing a 3.0 game as a trade empire, game updated, became galactic emperor (for fun). Already finished traditions, no mercantile tree, federation ended, immediately had a consumer goods crash. But it's better now.
@@RobBCactive I was still overwhelming, it was multiplayer too (teaching a newbie) so I just swapped a few alloy planets to consumer goods and I was sorted. I mean trade is straight better now so
@@heskelator3240 Well 3.0.3 boosted clerks and revived trade, it's the Mercantile tree that boosts commerce districts. If you can have a trade league with Federations then the combined policy is available. Megacorp games, I usually have hardly any factory jobs.
Or for a Liberation Empire that is turning all its conquests into ideological puppets. Which is not at all a meme. Because at some point, managing a quadrillion pops myself becomes tedious. 😁
I always choose Expansion as my first Tradition, regardless of what type of empire I'm playing. All the bonuses you receive from Expansion are useful, especially in the early game.
I do it for the pop growth speed, the rest are just menial bonuses. If I'm ever playing tall, it's discovery first, if I'm playing a purifier type build then it's supremacy in case I immediately find xenos.
Expansion always tempts me, yet I always go with Discovery in the beginning anyway. I just can’t ignore the turf grab potential it gives you at the start of the game, along with enabling a better tech rush if that’s what I’m going for.
With how popgrowth works now the -10% housing from Adaptability is an awesome buff, especially for Voiddwellers. Thats the reason why I prefer the Communal trait over Rapid Breeders (best is both, of course). With all modifiers you can get, you can get as far down as 0.55 Housing per (normal) pop, what translates to absolutely massive popgrowth
@@0witw047 it does, test it yourself. Check your popgrowth before adopting adaptability and after. The -10% alone give a good boost, stacking all housing modifiers gives you insane boosts. It Turns the -3 growth from overcrowded into +3 for high pops and lots of free space
Defense platforms did get a buff in 3.x They are now affected by the Starbase Targeting Computer. They're not going to win the battle by themselves but they will add significantly to your defensive fleet's firepower so long as you park your fleet so that the invader targets the fleet before the defense platforms. But fill out your fleet capacity first. Relying solely on static defenses is a mug's game.
@@Tracker947 right, I use them to free up fleets, when you have a tech lead you use bases to gain time to respond. Unfortunately it's harder now to set up fortresses, as pop growth is slower and resettlement costs influence
Recently I played Inward Perfection, and had the misfortune of spawning near a Fanatic Purifier. Normally I focus on the economy as much as possible, but this time I changed it up and went for Unyielding and got that sweet defensive bonus. It was a good thing I did, because when the FP inevitably declared war on me, the starbases and defensive platforms were barely able to beat their fleets. First battle i even built a defensive platform during it, possibly tipped the scales in my favor.
I think for unity revamp, they should add a Tier2 to each skill, with double the effect of the Tier1 skill, and double the unity cost of a Tier1 skill. Must complete the tree before can use Tier2. Tier2 awards an ascension perk, for a total of 16, or all of them currently. Probably should add more.
Diplomacy tradition early on saved me and was even flatout OP especially picked on early. 1. Having more envoys is extremely useful and you can utilise them a lot of ways (not including spying which is bad) 2. +100% naval cap contribution is huge. With this tree you can force more powerful empires into hegemony into you and still be the hegemon so you get a free fleet that the AI is kind enough to build for you without paying a dime. In one playthough I had 2x30K fleets and my free hegemon fleet was 75K (that could also be merged as it has no fleet cap limit) 3. Building positive relations faster is good, but not world breaking, but the favor chance comes into play a lot. I usually have 14 envoys in my diplomat focused empires each of them that are at improve relations have 5% chance to give a free favor each month. I usually end up with a ton of favors. Favors are brutally good. You can force things through votes, make agreements easy and you can even cash them in with trade offers.
I always do 2 in expansion first (extra pop and pop growth), then jump immediately to discovery and fill discovery out first, then expansion. Find that works best for me.
I tend to first take and finish Discovery, then I open Expansion and take the pick that makes Starbases cost 10% less Influence. Only then do I begin expanding.
I would never go for prosperity as the first tradition, because in the first years when you have few planets and pops and only some mining stations, the % gain won't boost your economy much. 20% of nothing is still nothing (or 5% for the specialists and for all jobs when the tradition is completed). The only good thing for the first years is the -10% building and district costs. Discovery and expansion seem to make much more sense to me in the beginning.
I love traditions There's something about the politics and economics aspects or your empire in strategy games that captivate. In my latest run, I played as a Fanactic Spiritualist Pacifist and built a couple of temples here and there, and I gotta say It is fun My species was about discovering what other worlds were out there, so they were extremely adaptive (but they were life seeded, so that's a little challenge haha). I ended up not having a loooot of territorry, but expanded quite a bit
3:30 I also find the reduction of sprawl and starbase upkeep very nice. Sure the amount is not super high but if you have a gigantic empire those cost savings add up to quite a lot.
Having mostly played as a peaceful trading empire, getting attacked is very common, you can use it to expand. That gets boring so altering the game balance by adding non-xphobe empires helps. Trying out militaristic ones, it's very noticeable how docile the AI behaves in comparison. The issue is however how limited your intel is by not having more envoys.
Was only thinking couple days back that one of you stellaris folk need to make a traditions guide post-Lem. Good coverage mister 👍. I so want to love espionage/subterfuge one day.
Supremacy is the weirdest tradition for me. I think that if I was only allowed to pick 1 tradition, Supremacy would be it. But it's tied to when I want to start a war, so WHEN to get it is always one of the more complicated questions I struggle with every game.
I love discovery first pick for map the stars edict. I need to wring as many anomalies/goodie huts as I can out of the large amount of early game exploration. The solid civics inside just reinforce it for me. Then I can choose a second tradition based on my neighborhood.
Spionage MUST get some rework to add assimetric warfare capability. For example, forcing enemy ships into a repair cycle (sabottage) . Feeding the enemy (And the AI shoudl respond to that) with FAKE map blips of fleets on the other side of their empire... things like that.
I always liked Adaptability. Sure, half of the tree is situational at best, but I won't ignore +10 habitability (more amenities), building slot and prospecting decision (way better than MoN). Put together is not super strong, but good to have.
My question is: how good is anomaly discovery chance? Will it spawn more anomalies that lead to more resources and how significant is this gain. Running some simulations would be nice. Additional questions: Is it worth it to rush map the stars edict? (statistically how many systems makes it worth it?) How valuable is the scientist trait that gives +10% anomaly discovery chance?
I'm free to be corrected if wrong but I do believe anomaly discovery creates anomalies as you go; high discovery chance can considerably enrich the systems you survey, making them more valuable to you later. Also, anomalies tend to provide boosts to science, unity and miscellaneous free resources. I often use discovery as my first tree and spam out about 6-8 science ships ASAP; this gives you a better idea of which way to expand to cut off other empires' starlanes, makes your systems a bit richer, gives you bonuses that no one can take away from you, and gives more chances for first contact protocols early, which leads to good influence bonuses if your envoys are on their game. discovery is the "scouting" tree and years of strategy gaming has taught me well the value of good scouting. I feel like the 'map the stars' edict is just gravy if you feel like saving up for it, though this slows your expansion for a time. It is one you'll eventually want to turn off though, so that's a factor. As for scientists, if I'm picking a survey scientist, I just prioritize the non-research traits. Survey speed, anomaly discovery, etc. It's honestly not worth micromanaging when the clock is ticking.
I use it a lot, anomalies chance is increased significantly, the Wiki wording is a bit odd, but the chance goes up as your anomaly is due. This seems to mean, meticulous and map the stars increase the number encountered greatly and survey speed of discovery, helps slip ships past empires before they close borders. Usually you want to get them researched too, as they give significant research points or add value to systems. I generally can level up both anomaly and survey specialists ideally carefree and meticulous respectively, so can tackle pre-cursor chain too. I've noticed in 3.1 poor systems can be left and later surveys by other empires can turn up resources or archaeology.
@@therealbahamut I know all that. I do all that. I want someone to test it out. Quantify it compared to opportunities lost by taking this path instead of others.
@@mateuszwesoowski9583 Or you could always try it yourself... no need to play a full game. Just the first 50 odd years and see how many anoms you get with discovery vs not. Best if you build the same number of science ships as well and maybe use large map + less AI for more survey with less change of war.
I will have to say though. Unrelated to Vanilla. With Expanded Traditions + Ascension perks mods, you can actually turn these quite... bad or meme focused builds into actual powerhouses. Example being Starbases and defense platforms. Boosting their destructive and defensive power to point, where they are capable of annihilating an entire fleet by themselves. Alternatively, trade value. Some perks REALLY boost your trade value to point where you're going to have some insane output by simply existing and taking specific perks.
I usually go Expansion, Prosperity and Research. I also make I culture worker at very start and after 2nd or 3rd Traditional is filled will usually dedicate a single planet to Unity output
I used to stack Defense in Depth with Desperate Measures if im well... desperate, and have to bait the enemy into my territory where my Starbase can help my fleet.
I like Adaptabilty. It and unyielding helped my planets last 100 years of the entire galaxy attacking me because I accidently guaranteed the independence of a crisis empire that crumpled immediately. Was able to settle more planets and defend them easier thanks to it.
"Subterfuge is hot garbage." Yeah... but I really like the idea of playing a super duplicitous megacorp with its fingers in everyone's pies. They really need to rework the spying mechanic and make it so you can become an omniscient empire that can start wars with a flick of the wrist or steal systems right out from under someone's nose.
Defence platforms don't actually suck if you build them just for long range with the support of ion cannons. Don't forget to use the shield+ speed debuffs and range buffs. However, if you build it in a system close to an L-Gate, they get swarmed and die fast. One of my unlcuky match, My empire got blocked both ways by marauder empires so i couldn't grow fast enough before the great khan event. I've went full defense and went for a tall empire tactic. I've blocked both choke points with 4x upgraded starbases and def platforms. Funny thing is, when great khan event happend, AI also opened the L gate, with the result of grey tempest. While great khan rushing down the weaker empires and grey tempests roaming the map, I've cleared out the other marauder empire and rushed down my neighbors, doing necropurge and quickly doubling my empire size. Khan entirely skipped my empire and tempest just came and die to my starbases.
Propserity is so frigging dumb that I actually pick it before mercantile with trade focused empires - and not its not dumb on my side. This is just THAT good and it also improves your trade value along improving literally everything else like science , unity, alloy productions etc. I think Expansion suck ass atm. Like initial bonus is so useless compared to stuff like 20% mining station output from prosperity etc.
you might want to add the music you use in the background in the video description. For example at 4:00 , especially since this is a stellaris video someone who doesn't know anno 2070 might be a bit "lost" when searching for the music used in the vid
I wish rushing tech had some sort of setbacks to make it not the always best choice. A simple option would be reduce population growth ... yeah.. Nerds in labs tend to have less active sexual life :P
I kind of thought the downside was that the pops going to research jobs and the consumer goods spent could otherwise go to alloy production, meaning in the short term you won't be able to build as strong a military and be susceptible to getting taken out in the early game
Issue here is stations are too cost efficient early game. My 300 alloy bastion can match your 2000 alloy fleet. You really can't efficiently rush until you have some tech. So even a rush build is tech rush currently.
@@janehrahan5116 Yup on other hand if stations were not more effective then no one would NEVER use it and everythign degenerates into early supper spam. There needs to be a change on warfare itself for this to be fixed. There must be a way to wage war without dealing with the stations (like some sort of raiding the mines and labs). Also hyperlane jamming should not be automatic on the stations. It should be a module with a reasonable upkeep.
Diplomacy is the best way to tech rush funny enough. Get into that trade fed/research fed/hedgemony with two or three AI and they will protect you while you tech rush.
I like to take adaptability in a rush down doomsday build. Set origin to doomsday, take extreme adaptation on species, and find and invade the first empire I find and take their world. At worst the adaptability will be ~50% which is easily survivable, removes an opponent, and leaves you with a major fleet in the early galaxy. The reason I like to take doomsday has to do with the major alloy production boost.
There's a lot of hate to defense platforms. I made a lol bastion with computer and so in my last game. Total of 20+ platforms. I expected nothing from it. It crushed the Great Khan invasion attempt in my territory.
Diplomacy is one of the strongest trees imo, but only to unlock an early federation. Why? Because if your running Starnet/Startech AI on GA (So way more aggro/better AI), its much better to get into an early, early federation with two AIs and just tech rush. The AI as long as they like you which isn't hard since they're in a federation with you, will protect you or dissuade other AI from declaring war on you allowing you to outtech Startech GA AI around 2250. Yeah the rest of the tree is horrible for sure, but being able to effectively have two AI's worth of fleet power early game for protection helps a ton. I tend to go 2 in diplomacy for Federation ASAP, either before expansion's good perks, or after depending on when I run into an AI I can reliably get into a federation.
10:15 Mostly it's just way too slow. By the time the useful things come in the empire already has either attacked you, been wiped out or lost all relevance. And that means that a majority of the time all it did was just waste your envoy who could have been doing much more useful things.
Hmmm, as a Megacorp I've used it to turn allies against corps they did pacts with and have branch offices. It's fun and the cost is trivial, in that kind of run. If you don't address such before you become clearly a dominant power, allies become reluctant to support your moves to strengthen your position. Espionage is more a peacetime activity than supporting direct military action. Good intelligence helps planning a lot though, but I think this feature suits diplo empires with envoys and economy, rather than typical multi-player rushes
Sorry but I think you will need to to reconsider Defense platform. +50 % range with a 120 range weapon ?? Infinite upgrade on hull and damage ? They can one shot entire fleet in late game. Maybe before they weren't so good, but now they carry a massive weight I prefer Harmony over Dominant because I don't use slave and for the plus 5 stability, combined +1 leader cap, +20 years of life, the +25 governing ethics and the Ascension that gives you extra growth experience (yeah, normally it would be considered garbage but it's not bad considering you will have level 10 leader a lot faster thanks to it) you can obtain crazy bonus from happiness, leader level and stability But yeah, they wouldn't be my first choice . Adaptability has a good chemistry with the Tomb world origin and Armageddon stance, +10% with the trait, +10% with the tradition and a base of 70% = 90% on every single planet (without considering the bonus from tech) 80 with a tomb world species.
I use defence platforms so a fleet isn't pinned to the key point, yes they don't have evasion ( why not PDS?), but not consuming naval cap is a key advantage. I think Stefan rates stuff based on 50-100 years in game, less for longer single player where organic leaders actually frequently do reach level 10
@@RobBCactive If you are good enough you can block a 25 crisis strength only with station and in some case some support from the fleet, this is all if you are in mid-late game. For me his rating is perfect, it's just that I don't use slave (Yeah, I purge but I don't want to enslave). And the fact that normally my endgame is set at 2350 and 5 crisis strength so it changes a lot
the trade policy to allow you to convert trade into consumer goods is so good under mercantile. you never have to build consumer goods which means a lot. for a lot of builds not just merchants only. i feel like you under value trade in general. if you playing robots then that makes sense
I'm not a top tier MP professional like you, but going Expansion followed by Supremacy has never steered me wrong. Prosperity is usually the third, the rest all depends on the situation at hand. But all the sprawl reduction, influence cost reduction, and pop speed increase from Expansion is never not useful as far as I know. I always take Supremacy as a second because I'm almost never surrounded by peaceful neighbors. There is usually one or two people decreasing relations or some nonsense. I love starbases and its fun watching someone completely unprepared for an early thicc fortress, but for my alloys, Supremacy wins because it is mobile, especially if you're unlucky in chokepoint systems. The construction cost reduction and speed increase are too much for me to bear to pass up, especially considering how many alloys could be saved with the costs reduced. If retrofitting was not in the game though, then I'd probably lean heavily on Unyielding, but Supremacy for the flexibility PLUS having early Rapid Deployment doctrine is critical for my peace of mind. Plus, when an idiot inevitably throws their fleet away with a single mistake in an early war, having Supremacy makes counter-attacking and punishing them a lot easier. And satisfying!
Hey Stefan, I've been trying to get the Zroni as a precursor. I've seen people mention using debugtooltip but I love playing on Ironman so it's not really an option. I'd love to know if there are any hidden mechanics you know of. I read that you should only survey habitable planets and leave the rest of the system, but I've done 16+ attempts no with zero success. Any advice would be loved. Thanks
What about Synchronicity as Machine Intelligence? I guess the −50% Leader accident chance is quite important to get those immortal top-level leaders. But I don't know if it's better to go for it mid-game or late...
There isn't a high chance of accidents. Also it rolls for it every 10 years. You can actually cheese it by unassaigning all leaders (it checks only active ones) for 1 months at the start of each deccade.
Wait, when did the subterfuge tree even appear? I've never seen that one and I played just a few days ago. I know there's a scrollbar for traditions now but I swear I have NOT seen that tree in the last few days. Weird. Not I'll be using it; even at a glance it's pretty garbage, but I never even spotted it...
Yeah,once you get to the end it's real easy to have enough unity for all the edicts, especially if you increase edict duration with the repeatable tech
I hate how certain doctrines, policies and decisions are locked behind traditions. I think you should have basic federations, basic war doctrines and economic policies from the start. The traditions should just boost their corresponding thing instead of walling off the actions entirely.
Well I think the designer chose that to create meaningful decisions, before it was too easy to rush unity with mercantile empires. Even in 3.1 I think I was using unity ambition edicts before the middle game.
My analysis. If slaver domination > supremacy >prosperity if aggressive non slaver Prosperity> supremacy> discovery/mercantile if peaceful resource based expansion > prosperity if peaceful trade based Mercantile. Done, thats all you need lol.
Defensive platforms suck? Before you get some of the heavier ships they seem pretty good. Especially considering you also probably won't have the starbase upgrades yet either. A couple defence platforms equals a fleet at that stage. Mid to late game they're less useful.
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"Prosparity" literally unwatchable. Jk, great video.
Literally unwatchable _and_ a great video?
There's a word for that: _versitility._
@@GossamerGhoul I believe the word you're looking for is oxymoron.
Did not realize that mercantile has a mini "stonks" meme in it, with a fox, thats cute haha.
My first megacorp empire used that very portrait. I was happy when I saw it. :D
The funniest thing is that merchants are literally meta, so without them you won't get the stonks.
I feel you severely undersell adaptability, at least for Void Dwellers.
Since Void Dwellers can't get extra building slots from districts and spam habitats, an extra building slot is quite rare and when used in dozens of habitats, very useful.
Not to mention Habitat prospecting! As Void Dweller you are incredibly dependent on rng giving you planets with mineral/energy/science to build your habitats and this finisher not only cancels out any bad rng but ensures EVRYWHERE is a good habitat spot!
Well I don't think Science Habitats/districts are as necessary anymore outside of the early game because of Voidborne Ascension perk giving +2 building slots and Functional Architecture giving +2 building slots which lets you cram quite a lot of researchers into a habitat even without the research district
But 5 building slots are more than 4
@@JoViljarHaugstulen After 2300 when you make plenty of ressources? Of course!
In 2210 when you're still building in your first three habitats and minerals aren't plentiful? Getting both housing and jobs in one spending is very useful then!
Of course, it's not nearly as important as mining or energy habitats, lack of which will cripple your game...
Didn't think of that, I will try that next time!
You can get 2 by taking Voidborne perk or Functional Architecture civic. There's other trees which open building slots and once out of the early game spamming habitats solves issues, so Adaptability is a later optional pick.
Any colony should have a district and building specialisation plan for efficiency reasons, swapping research to districts is therefore useful as is the hydroponics in base/building slots. Having some bot jobs in habitats reduces housing consumption, saving a district or slot. A mining habitat with bots, will similarly have building slots spare without a need for housing districts.
Research districts in research habs are great, I like them for planet empires too, you gain output without requiring a lot of gas or relic worlds and gain spare building slots for other stuff OR extra research.
Just a quick fact: with a planetary shield generator, the unyielding tree and the adaptability tree you can reduce the bombardment damage taken to 0% and nothing except Colossus Ships can remove your cheeky little habitat out of the border system. This is a must if you want to turtle against a fallen empire or any crisis. There may be some Boni to get some damage through, but even then it's painfully slow.
Well you could still get invaded with regular armies.
It would however practically guarantee 100% enemy war exhaustion.
tested this, some damage will still come through, so there seems to be a minimum amount of damage always dealt.
Still you can ensure it takes 10+ years to bomb your planet.
This combines well with reanimated armies, as you get extremely strong defense armies which take over the attacking armies.
I think it is hard capped between 85-95 percent damage reduction
The bonuses could also just be multiplactively, and not addidative. So you can never truly reach 0%.
@@KatyaAbc575 Zeno's modifier. :p
-10% Starbase Influence cost is criminally undervalued in all of these analysis videos. This helps you push your initial borders so much farther, especially if you're racing for chokepoints to push for more star clusters.
But considet alternatives to achieve the benefit!
As a void dweller Megacorp, I went for influence reduction via perk, because one direction was blocked by marauders, the other had a blackhole at 5 hops, then I discovered the choke, with a spiral arm junction beyond it.
In the situation, Interstellar Dominion was taken which made a huge difference, especially as the leader picked up extra bonus. Expansion doesn't help much early game, so I go Discovery usually.
The planned tallish calm early build up, turned into a massive land grab and taking the key point effectively secured the game.
@@RobBCactive There has yet to be a game I've played as a Megacorp, even Void Born, where taking Expansion and then one tradition in for the influence reduction wasn't the optimal play. Even if you move off to something else afterward. I even go so far as to avoid taking any other systems until I have that tradition. Extra systems for the extra resources are just too valuable throughout the game to lose out early.
Plus, as a MegaCorp, that extra influence savings over time is worth extra branch offices. The early game is where you really need that specific part of Expansion.
Yes, every empire and situation will be different, that is the nature of the game. But I have an unfortunately large number of hours in the game and every time I don't take the influence reduction first I regret it.
Lets be xenophobic
One extra starbase per 7.5 starbases doesn't seem that impactful.
@@just_gut -20% vs -10% influence, if you get tech going fast first you can research pop growth and economic things sooner, then expand faster. Now, you need Mercantile or Diplo and a trade league or your unity progress will slow greatly during the 2nd tradition or there's not enough CGs for research if you have early unity jobs.
There's more than 1 way and expansion isn't particularly good for void dwellers v. early because you don't need second systems even, nor to colonise new habitats till the 2nd decade and migration treaties are unlikely. The pop growth can be boosted by tech and Interstellar Dominion is a bigger influence discount.
A fan xphile doesn't need Universal Transactions and getting closer to customers, brings its own discount, so I really don't consider Expansion optimal pre-3.1, completing tech faster is
Worst feeling was playing a 3.0 game as a trade empire, game updated, became galactic emperor (for fun). Already finished traditions, no mercantile tree, federation ended, immediately had a consumer goods crash. But it's better now.
Better to roll back to previous version and play the old save file, than have your prior play made weak by game changes
@@RobBCactive I was still overwhelming, it was multiplayer too (teaching a newbie) so I just swapped a few alloy planets to consumer goods and I was sorted. I mean trade is straight better now so
@@heskelator3240 Well 3.0.3 boosted clerks and revived trade, it's the Mercantile tree that boosts commerce districts. If you can have a trade league with Federations then the combined policy is available. Megacorp games, I usually have hardly any factory jobs.
No retreat is good for diplomatic posturing with the boosted fleet power and for enemy fleets you heavily outgun.
Or for a Liberation Empire that is turning all its conquests into ideological puppets. Which is not at all a meme. Because at some point, managing a quadrillion pops myself becomes tedious. 😁
The thing is, if you heavily outgun enemy fleets, you have no need whatsoever for the fire rate bonuses
I always choose Expansion as my first Tradition, regardless of what type of empire I'm playing. All the bonuses you receive from Expansion are useful, especially in the early game.
I do it for the pop growth speed, the rest are just menial bonuses. If I'm ever playing tall, it's discovery first, if I'm playing a purifier type build then it's supremacy in case I immediately find xenos.
Expansion always tempts me, yet I always go with Discovery in the beginning anyway. I just can’t ignore the turf grab potential it gives you at the start of the game, along with enabling a better tech rush if that’s what I’m going for.
Adaptability + Planetary Shield + Fortress Station = -100% bombardment damage.
If it was additive bonus, then yes. But it’s multiplicative, so it’s like 80 or 90 %
@@LCInfantry that would be the first time that modifiers interact like that. And of that's true that would represent a damage reduction of ~72%.
There’s a limit. Your units still get damaged slowly. Someone has tested it already, idk who it was. Test it yourself.
@@LCInfantry that's true, I tested it. It seems like the limit is about 10%
Now do Origin And Ascension Perk tier Lists.
The 3.0 videos are 95% accurate, but you can check out the updated 3.1 tierlists themselves in the description!
@@Stefan_Anon Thank you
@@Stefan_Anon now do a portrait tier list. I hope to see snaily bois at S tier.
@@AzureRath97 They're not something which can be objectively measured
@@BloodRider1914 r/woosh
With how popgrowth works now the -10% housing from Adaptability is an awesome buff, especially for Voiddwellers. Thats the reason why I prefer the Communal trait over Rapid Breeders (best is both, of course). With all modifiers you can get, you can get as far down as 0.55 Housing per (normal) pop, what translates to absolutely massive popgrowth
Reduced housing per pops is fine if you're running out of housing, but it doesn't increase growth
@@0witw047 it does, test it yourself. Check your popgrowth before adopting adaptability and after. The -10% alone give a good boost, stacking all housing modifiers gives you insane boosts. It Turns the -3 growth from overcrowded into +3 for high pops and lots of free space
@@0witw047 it actually does
Adaptability seems to be good for void dwellers because of that 10% food and extra building slot js
I usually unlock Discovery first to unlock the edict and then complete the Expansion tree
Defense platforms did get a buff in 3.x They are now affected by the Starbase Targeting Computer. They're not going to win the battle by themselves but they will add significantly to your defensive fleet's firepower so long as you park your fleet so that the invader targets the fleet before the defense platforms.
But fill out your fleet capacity first. Relying solely on static defenses is a mug's game.
In single player, platforms are more than effective enough.
@@Tracker947 right, I use them to free up fleets, when you have a tech lead you use bases to gain time to respond.
Unfortunately it's harder now to set up fortresses, as pop growth is slower and resettlement costs influence
@@Tracker947 They lose badly to X-mount battleships unless supported by adequate fleet power. Starnet AI fields those ~2270-2280.
Recently I played Inward Perfection, and had the misfortune of spawning near a Fanatic Purifier. Normally I focus on the economy as much as possible, but this time I changed it up and went for Unyielding and got that sweet defensive bonus. It was a good thing I did, because when the FP inevitably declared war on me, the starbases and defensive platforms were barely able to beat their fleets. First battle i even built a defensive platform during it, possibly tipped the scales in my favor.
I think for unity revamp, they should add a Tier2 to each skill, with double the effect of the Tier1 skill, and double the unity cost of a Tier1 skill. Must complete the tree before can use Tier2. Tier2 awards an ascension perk, for a total of 16, or all of them currently. Probably should add more.
Diplomacy tradition early on saved me and was even flatout OP especially picked on early.
1. Having more envoys is extremely useful and you can utilise them a lot of ways (not including spying which is bad)
2. +100% naval cap contribution is huge. With this tree you can force more powerful empires into hegemony into you and still be the hegemon so you get a free fleet that the AI is kind enough to build for you without paying a dime. In one playthough I had 2x30K fleets and my free hegemon fleet was 75K (that could also be merged as it has no fleet cap limit)
3. Building positive relations faster is good, but not world breaking, but the favor chance comes into play a lot. I usually have 14 envoys in my diplomat focused empires each of them that are at improve relations have 5% chance to give a free favor each month. I usually end up with a ton of favors. Favors are brutally good. You can force things through votes, make agreements easy and you can even cash them in with trade offers.
I always do 2 in expansion first (extra pop and pop growth), then jump immediately to discovery and fill discovery out first, then expansion. Find that works best for me.
I tend to first take and finish Discovery, then I open Expansion and take the pick that makes Starbases cost 10% less Influence. Only then do I begin expanding.
I would never go for prosperity as the first tradition, because in the first years when you have few planets and pops and only some mining stations, the % gain won't boost your economy much. 20% of nothing is still nothing (or 5% for the specialists and for all jobs when the tradition is completed). The only good thing for the first years is the -10% building and district costs. Discovery and expansion seem to make much more sense to me in the beginning.
I love traditions
There's something about the politics and economics aspects or your empire in strategy games that captivate.
In my latest run, I played as a Fanactic Spiritualist Pacifist and built a couple of temples here and there, and I gotta say
It is fun
My species was about discovering what other worlds were out there, so they were extremely adaptive (but they were life seeded, so that's a little challenge haha).
I ended up not having a loooot of territorry, but expanded quite a bit
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I also find the reduction of sprawl and starbase upkeep very nice. Sure the amount is not super high but if you have a gigantic empire those cost savings add up to quite a lot.
Having mostly played as a peaceful trading empire, getting attacked is very common, you can use it to expand. That gets boring so altering the game balance by adding non-xphobe empires helps.
Trying out militaristic ones, it's very noticeable how docile the AI behaves in comparison. The issue is however how limited your intel is by not having more envoys.
Was only thinking couple days back that one of you stellaris folk need to make a traditions guide post-Lem. Good coverage mister 👍. I so want to love espionage/subterfuge one day.
Supremacy is the weirdest tradition for me. I think that if I was only allowed to pick 1 tradition, Supremacy would be it. But it's tied to when I want to start a war, so WHEN to get it is always one of the more complicated questions I struggle with every game.
To me, that is one of the most helping vids for general strategy in stellaris! Thanks!
I love discovery first pick for map the stars edict. I need to wring as many anomalies/goodie huts as I can out of the large amount of early game exploration. The solid civics inside just reinforce it for me. Then I can choose a second tradition based on my neighborhood.
Commenting to feed the algorithm but also because it is a great video explaining many important things and the more people know about it, the better.
Spionage MUST get some rework to add assimetric warfare capability. For example, forcing enemy ships into a repair cycle (sabottage) . Feeding the enemy (And the AI shoudl respond to that) with FAKE map blips of fleets on the other side of their empire... things like that.
Always loving your guides ❤️
I like taking Expansion for Machine Intelligence.
Usually I pick Expansion + Technological Ascendency then go Prosperity.
I find going discovery first to find out what is around then expansion to spread out into the black.
But it's harder to complete the traditions fast enough now because Market Place of Ideas is locked behind the Mercantile tree.
I always liked Adaptability. Sure, half of the tree is situational at best, but I won't ignore +10 habitability (more amenities), building slot and prospecting decision (way better than MoN). Put together is not super strong, but good to have.
Imagine that you also got yuht precursors (who are surely not great, but still). +20 habitability on any planet.
My question is: how good is anomaly discovery chance?
Will it spawn more anomalies that lead to more resources and how significant is this gain. Running some simulations would be nice. Additional questions:
Is it worth it to rush map the stars edict? (statistically how many systems makes it worth it?)
How valuable is the scientist trait that gives +10% anomaly discovery chance?
I'm free to be corrected if wrong but I do believe anomaly discovery creates anomalies as you go; high discovery chance can considerably enrich the systems you survey, making them more valuable to you later. Also, anomalies tend to provide boosts to science, unity and miscellaneous free resources. I often use discovery as my first tree and spam out about 6-8 science ships ASAP; this gives you a better idea of which way to expand to cut off other empires' starlanes, makes your systems a bit richer, gives you bonuses that no one can take away from you, and gives more chances for first contact protocols early, which leads to good influence bonuses if your envoys are on their game. discovery is the "scouting" tree and years of strategy gaming has taught me well the value of good scouting.
I feel like the 'map the stars' edict is just gravy if you feel like saving up for it, though this slows your expansion for a time. It is one you'll eventually want to turn off though, so that's a factor.
As for scientists, if I'm picking a survey scientist, I just prioritize the non-research traits. Survey speed, anomaly discovery, etc. It's honestly not worth micromanaging when the clock is ticking.
I use it a lot, anomalies chance is increased significantly, the Wiki wording is a bit odd, but the chance goes up as your anomaly is due. This seems to mean, meticulous and map the stars increase the number encountered greatly and survey speed of discovery, helps slip ships past empires before they close borders.
Usually you want to get them researched too, as they give significant research points or add value to systems. I generally can level up both anomaly and survey specialists ideally carefree and meticulous respectively, so can tackle pre-cursor chain too.
I've noticed in 3.1 poor systems can be left and later surveys by other empires can turn up resources or archaeology.
@@therealbahamut
I know all that.
I do all that.
I want someone to test it out. Quantify it compared to opportunities lost by taking this path instead of others.
@@mateuszwesoowski9583 Throw the question to Montu! He's been on a fantastic trial and error spree with stellaris
@@mateuszwesoowski9583 Or you could always try it yourself... no need to play a full game. Just the first 50 odd years and see how many anoms you get with discovery vs not. Best if you build the same number of science ships as well and maybe use large map + less AI for more survey with less change of war.
For habitats expansion is quite needed. 1200 alloys for habitat instead of 1500 this is cool.
I will have to say though. Unrelated to Vanilla. With Expanded Traditions + Ascension perks mods, you can actually turn these quite... bad or meme focused builds into actual powerhouses.
Example being Starbases and defense platforms.
Boosting their destructive and defensive power to point, where they are capable of annihilating an entire fleet by themselves.
Alternatively, trade value. Some perks REALLY boost your trade value to point where you're going to have some insane output by simply existing and taking specific perks.
Eyyyy the one thing i didn't suck at my first few games:
Picking traditions
Color me impressed man. You've covered it all and even some extra! Props, couldn't have asked for a more informative video. You have nailed it 😉
I usually go Expansion, Prosperity and Research. I also make I culture worker at very start and after 2nd or 3rd Traditional is filled will usually dedicate a single planet to Unity output
Mercantile 1st for megacorps is OP as heck. Merchants gain leader status and it's all stonks from there.
I used to stack Defense in Depth with Desperate Measures if im well... desperate, and have to bait the enemy into my territory where my Starbase can help my fleet.
I like Adaptabilty. It and unyielding helped my planets last 100 years of the entire galaxy attacking me because I accidently guaranteed the independence of a crisis empire that crumpled immediately. Was able to settle more planets and defend them easier thanks to it.
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Though if there is a massive disparity in power I far more so care about finishing up the war quickly than saving a few hundred alloys.
Definitely wished I'd watched this before my current game! Now I'm 100 years in and feel like I need to go the distance.
i wish u could form ur specific federation at higher cost and just skip the tree
As someone who really likes to play Xenophile mega corps getting unity from embassy is pretty good
"Subterfuge is hot garbage." Yeah... but I really like the idea of playing a super duplicitous megacorp with its fingers in everyone's pies. They really need to rework the spying mechanic and make it so you can become an omniscient empire that can start wars with a flick of the wrist or steal systems right out from under someone's nose.
Defence platforms don't actually suck if you build them just for long range with the support of ion cannons. Don't forget to use the shield+ speed debuffs and range buffs. However, if you build it in a system close to an L-Gate, they get swarmed and die fast.
One of my unlcuky match, My empire got blocked both ways by marauder empires so i couldn't grow fast enough before the great khan event. I've went full defense and went for a tall empire tactic. I've blocked both choke points with 4x upgraded starbases and def platforms. Funny thing is, when great khan event happend, AI also opened the L gate, with the result of grey tempest. While great khan rushing down the weaker empires and grey tempests roaming the map, I've cleared out the other marauder empire and rushed down my neighbors, doing necropurge and quickly doubling my empire size. Khan entirely skipped my empire and tempest just came and die to my starbases.
Its unusual. Every time I choose Supremacy, Erika starts playing in the background.
Damn I wish you had more timestamps so I knew where to jump for each tradition.
"You should be rushing tech, not unity"
*Crisis Rush has entered the chat*
Great. The 10 building slot habitat not get featured.
Guess Prosperity + adaptibility still a meme
Solid video, even better with the music from Beyond earth.
Propserity is so frigging dumb that I actually pick it before mercantile with trade focused empires - and not its not dumb on my side. This is just THAT good and it also improves your trade value along improving literally everything else like science , unity, alloy productions etc.
I think Expansion suck ass atm. Like initial bonus is so useless compared to stuff like 20% mining station output from prosperity etc.
you might want to add the music you use in the background in the video description.
For example at 4:00 , especially since this is a stellaris video someone who doesn't know anno 2070 might be a bit "lost" when searching for the music used in the vid
very informative, great guide!
I wish rushing tech had some sort of setbacks to make it not the always best choice. A simple option would be reduce population growth ... yeah.. Nerds in labs tend to have less active sexual life :P
I kind of thought the downside was that the pops going to research jobs and the consumer goods spent could otherwise go to alloy production, meaning in the short term you won't be able to build as strong a military and be susceptible to getting taken out in the early game
Issue here is stations are too cost efficient early game. My 300 alloy bastion can match your 2000 alloy fleet. You really can't efficiently rush until you have some tech. So even a rush build is tech rush currently.
@@janehrahan5116 Yup on other hand if stations were not more effective then no one would NEVER use it and everythign degenerates into early supper spam. There needs to be a change on warfare itself for this to be fixed. There must be a way to wage war without dealing with the stations (like some sort of raiding the mines and labs). Also hyperlane jamming should not be automatic on the stations. It should be a module with a reasonable upkeep.
Diplomacy is the best way to tech rush funny enough. Get into that trade fed/research fed/hedgemony with two or three AI and they will protect you while you tech rush.
I like to take adaptability in a rush down doomsday build. Set origin to doomsday, take extreme adaptation on species, and find and invade the first empire I find and take their world. At worst the adaptability will be ~50% which is easily survivable, removes an opponent, and leaves you with a major fleet in the early galaxy. The reason I like to take doomsday has to do with the major alloy production boost.
Forgot to mention that adaptability has the 10% habitability boost
I love the Civ Beyond Earth music
I almost always go prosperity first lmao. Sometimes domination
Man that starbase tree looks cool af
I need a new overwhelming technology build update, I have been using merchant tree consumer benefit to fund my technocracy.
There's a lot of hate to defense platforms. I made a lol bastion with computer and so in my last game. Total of 20+ platforms. I expected nothing from it. It crushed the Great Khan invasion attempt in my territory.
Diplomacy is one of the strongest trees imo, but only to unlock an early federation. Why? Because if your running Starnet/Startech AI on GA (So way more aggro/better AI), its much better to get into an early, early federation with two AIs and just tech rush. The AI as long as they like you which isn't hard since they're in a federation with you, will protect you or dissuade other AI from declaring war on you allowing you to outtech Startech GA AI around 2250. Yeah the rest of the tree is horrible for sure, but being able to effectively have two AI's worth of fleet power early game for protection helps a ton.
I tend to go 2 in diplomacy for Federation ASAP, either before expansion's good perks, or after depending on when I run into an AI I can reliably get into a federation.
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Mostly it's just way too slow. By the time the useful things come in the empire already has either attacked you, been wiped out or lost all relevance.
And that means that a majority of the time all it did was just waste your envoy who could have been doing much more useful things.
I always go subterfuge. I just love me some fog of war shenanigans.
Man imagine if espionage was good and you could use it to destroy enemy ships.
Hmmm, as a Megacorp I've used it to turn allies against corps they did pacts with and have branch offices.
It's fun and the cost is trivial, in that kind of run.
If you don't address such before you become clearly a dominant power, allies become reluctant to support your moves to strengthen your position.
Espionage is more a peacetime activity than supporting direct military action. Good intelligence helps planning a lot though, but I think this feature suits diplo empires with envoys and economy, rather than typical multi-player rushes
Thanks for the great guides!
Sorry but I think you will need to to reconsider Defense platform.
+50 % range with a 120 range weapon ??
Infinite upgrade on hull and damage ?
They can one shot entire fleet in late game.
Maybe before they weren't so good, but now they carry a massive weight
I prefer Harmony over Dominant because I don't use slave and for the plus 5 stability, combined +1 leader cap, +20 years of life, the +25 governing ethics and the Ascension that gives you extra growth experience (yeah, normally it would be considered garbage but it's not bad considering you will have level 10 leader a lot faster thanks to it) you can obtain crazy bonus from happiness, leader level and stability
But yeah, they wouldn't be my first choice .
Adaptability has a good chemistry with the Tomb world origin and Armageddon stance, +10% with the trait, +10% with the tradition and a base of 70% = 90% on every single planet (without considering the bonus from tech)
80 with a tomb world species.
I use defence platforms so a fleet isn't pinned to the key point, yes they don't have evasion ( why not PDS?), but not consuming naval cap is a key advantage.
I think Stefan rates stuff based on 50-100 years in game, less for longer single player where organic leaders actually frequently do reach level 10
@@RobBCactive If you are good enough you can block a 25 crisis strength only with station and in some case some support from the fleet, this is all if you are in mid-late game.
For me his rating is perfect, it's just that I don't use slave (Yeah, I purge but I don't want to enslave).
And the fact that normally my endgame is set at 2350 and 5 crisis strength so it changes a lot
the trade policy to allow you to convert trade into consumer goods is so good under mercantile. you never have to build consumer goods which means a lot. for a lot of builds not just merchants only. i feel like you under value trade in general. if you playing robots then that makes sense
you vastly undervalue trade guy.
defensive platforms are good :) kinetlic altilery + krystal armor
I’m enjoying the tradition changes
I'm not a top tier MP professional like you, but going Expansion followed by Supremacy has never steered me wrong. Prosperity is usually the third, the rest all depends on the situation at hand. But all the sprawl reduction, influence cost reduction, and pop speed increase from Expansion is never not useful as far as I know. I always take Supremacy as a second because I'm almost never surrounded by peaceful neighbors. There is usually one or two people decreasing relations or some nonsense. I love starbases and its fun watching someone completely unprepared for an early thicc fortress, but for my alloys, Supremacy wins because it is mobile, especially if you're unlucky in chokepoint systems. The construction cost reduction and speed increase are too much for me to bear to pass up, especially considering how many alloys could be saved with the costs reduced. If retrofitting was not in the game though, then I'd probably lean heavily on Unyielding, but Supremacy for the flexibility PLUS having early Rapid Deployment doctrine is critical for my peace of mind.
Plus, when an idiot inevitably throws their fleet away with a single mistake in an early war, having Supremacy makes counter-attacking and punishing them a lot easier. And satisfying!
There's something about Paradox not being able to make a good set of Espionage/Subterfuge ideas/traditions, but I just can't place it.
I really wish the spy stuff was better., concept is so cool
Remember that time when you said additional research alternatives werent that good? I do.
What traditions would you pick for a tech focused empire and what ascension perks would you pick?
Keep it up brother love these vids
Hey Stefan, I've been trying to get the Zroni as a precursor. I've seen people mention using debugtooltip but I love playing on Ironman so it's not really an option. I'd love to know if there are any hidden mechanics you know of. I read that you should only survey habitable planets and leave the rest of the system, but I've done 16+ attempts no with zero success. Any advice would be loved. Thanks
What about Synchronicity as Machine Intelligence?
I guess the −50% Leader accident chance is quite important to get those immortal top-level leaders. But I don't know if it's better to go for it mid-game or late...
There isn't a high chance of accidents. Also it rolls for it every 10 years. You can actually cheese it by unassaigning all leaders (it checks only active ones) for 1 months at the start of each deccade.
Wait, when did the subterfuge tree even appear? I've never seen that one and I played just a few days ago. I know there's a scrollbar for traditions now but I swear I have NOT seen that tree in the last few days. Weird. Not I'll be using it; even at a glance it's pretty garbage, but I never even spotted it...
I think its Nemesis-only
@@papereater8116 AH. that would explain it. My derp.
Even if it wasn't nemesis only I wouldn't be surprised if your mind blanked it out since its not even worth looking at in every play through lol
@@CascadingDreams666 Nope, looked again. It's not there. Must be nemesis only. though upon a second look at it here, yeah, it's uhh...pretty lame.
Anno 2070 soundtrack in the background?
The issue with traditions vs tech is the sheer number of techs that you can get for your empire compared to traditions.
Tech also includes the repeatable tech, which is very helpful.
@@LCInfantry Yeah but think about it, techs get you from tiny corvettes with lasers to giant battleships with tachyon lances
Yeah,once you get to the end it's real easy to have enough unity for all the edicts, especially if you increase edict duration with the repeatable tech
I hate how certain doctrines, policies and decisions are locked behind traditions. I think you should have basic federations, basic war doctrines and economic policies from the start. The traditions should just boost their corresponding thing instead of walling off the actions entirely.
Well I think the designer chose that to create meaningful decisions, before it was too easy to rush unity with mercantile empires.
Even in 3.1 I think I was using unity ambition edicts before the middle game.
Really interesting
My analysis. If slaver domination > supremacy >prosperity
if aggressive non slaver Prosperity> supremacy> discovery/mercantile
if peaceful resource based expansion > prosperity
if peaceful trade based Mercantile. Done, thats all you need lol.
mercantile. When? always
Where the hell in unyielding, I played an entire stellaris game since lem and I haven’t seen it
How does unlocking or not having unlocked the Trade Value Policies interact with being in a Trade Federation?
Is that Anno 2070 music followed by Beyond Earth?
So do Montu and Stefan disagree on the worth of trade value now? It seems so.
I can't tell if there is an audio sync issue, or if your mouth is moving weird.
Is that Anno 2070 music at 3:53?
great video
Defensive platforms suck? Before you get some of the heavier ships they seem pretty good. Especially considering you also probably won't have the starbase upgrades yet either. A couple defence platforms equals a fleet at that stage. Mid to late game they're less useful.
Wouldn’t unyielding be good for a fanatic pacifist?
Do machine too, Thank you.
Subterfuge should be one of the most powerful traditions, not the weakest.
I didn't think you could do a trade league without being a megacorp? Your merchant man race is a standard empire?
Thank you :)